Oh, but the guy whose friend owns the snazzy car assures you that he'll let his friend know all about the problems you've pointed out, and that they'll get those pesky little things like wheels, windshields, and doors fixed before they have the perfectly functional car towed away. Doesn't that make you feel better?
I just took a look at it (beta) again, and I can't even read summaries because there's not enough room to display them. The information density is terrible. But what's even worse than the Beta itself is what it reveals about the priorities of whoever greenlit it.
I don't think they've really heard the outcry. "Coming back with a new plan" feels an awful lot like "wait three months and give it a new coat of paint". The slashcott is a way of trying to make damn sure it's understood this isn't simply 'I don't like it' but the much stronger 'I cannot and will not participate in a version of Slashdot like that being proposed'. With a healthy addendum of, 'WTF were you thinking in the first place!' All IMNSHO, of course.
When you stir up a colony of bees, they buzz around angrily and try to sting you. On the surface, they appear mad, but I think some of them secretly enjoy it. Otherwise, they'd probably go back to the business of making honey as soon as they could.
And then when you replace their hive with a plastic beach ball in a week, both they and you will be surprised and astonished when honey production drops to zero and stays there.
Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.
On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.
Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system. If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.
We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention. Links of note:
It's 'don't give us a pro-forma pat on the head while going full steam ahead'. I've yet to see anyone clearly articulate why there's a need for a sweeping upgrade.
We don't know that those predictions will come true. The fast majority of the F*ck Beta comments are coming from ACs. For all we know that could be a single individual or even a bot.
Slashdot has always had disgruntled people participate with it. But a lot of postings by an AC really are worthless to base anything on.
However, if slashdot dies because of this, it won't be because of Dice. It will be because like the dinosaurs, we couldn't adapt.
Fine, here's one more non-AC comment. Beta ought to go to hell. I'll read classic Slashdot or no Slashdot.
Terrible, isn't it? Occasionally I get directed to it and keep reloading/pressing the back button until I don't.
The Slashdot Beta is fucking terrible, and has gone the route of Way Too Much Whitespace and looks like shit.
Whatever drunken idiots think it's a good website should be flayed, castrated, and then shot.
You're being far too kind. The auteur of the beta Slashdot design should be torn into itty-bitty pieces and buried alive. Count me in as another long-time slashdot reader who will be adding the site to Leechblock as soon as I can no longer access class Slashdot. And given the trend topics that have been making it to the top of the pile lately (with this one as a nice exception) I'm kind of wondering why I'm waiting...
" Galileo wasn't locked up in house arrest for his science, he was locked up for being an ass to the church."
Would you care to cite your source on this? Every text I've read that discusses the reasons for his imprisonment cites his research and statements supporting the heliocentric model, or his refusal to recant those statements. How exactly was he an "ass" to the church?
That would make it practically impossible to defend yourself against any charges brought against you by a government agency. They would have all this information that they gathered by whatever means are at their disposal, and you'd only have the evidence they presented to be used you and whatever else you are legally able to obtain (within your financial means). There is no way that scenario fits the definition of due process, the government would be practically guaranteed to win every time.
Well, not to state the obvious, but you could actually not do the crime!
Don't run the drugs.
And don't be doing strong arm robbery, or what ever, to get the police so desperate for a way to lock you up that they plant drugs on you. Contrary to popular opinion, its not too hard to go about your life without attracting any police attention.
As long as you're not a minority and only engage in any status-quo approved activities in public.
I live in the Mountain West, and regularly take trips where I need to cover 600 miles or more in a day. Nothing electrical, from Tesla or anyone else, comes close to meeting my needs. And that's without getting into how on a backcountry trip I can haul along a couple of jerrycans to easily and cheaply extend my range.
While a (cheap) electric vehicle might meet my everyday commuting needs, I am not in the market for two cars. One ICE car plus bike and public transit seems to be a far more cost efficient solution to all my transport needs.
Oh, the string of Attorneys General is pretty bad, but I can't recall any others in the last 40 or 50 years who acted so much like they were running totalitarian state. Ashcroft at least refused to authorize one surveillance program. Has Holder even done that much? And to be clear, I think it's this bit that really pushed him atop the hill of awfulness in my book.
The alternative could be assassination, and I don't mean by the USA. There are many groups active in Russia who would kill Snowden simply to make the USA look bad (if he dies, regardless of the circumstances, most people will assume he was killed by the US). Returning to the US would alleviate living under that kind of fear (assuming he recognizes it).
So he could return to the US, where he can be hauled off to a black site, held without trial, or murdered on the president's say-so? I think he's better off in Russia.
Two different executive branch commissions have now released statements saying they found NSA actions to be illegal. Plus the FISA court's statements on the matter. NSA supporters can keep lying if they want, but it's obvious to anyone with a working internet connection that the NSA violated the law.
Maybe if the United States government wasn't already well down the road of secret courts, secret trials, and secret evidence that would be a viable option. Bush II and Obama have really proved that old adage about the road to hell. (Assuming they had any good intentions in the first place, that is.)
No need to talk about stringing them all from streetlights. I'd be happy seeing America's war criminals rotting in their cells at the Hague while they wait for their turn in front of the ICJ.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh, but the guy whose friend owns the snazzy car assures you that he'll let his friend know all about the problems you've pointed out, and that they'll get those pesky little things like wheels, windshields, and doors fixed before they have the perfectly functional car towed away. Doesn't that make you feel better?
I just took a look at it (beta) again, and I can't even read summaries because there's not enough room to display them. The information density is terrible. But what's even worse than the Beta itself is what it reveals about the priorities of whoever greenlit it.
I don't think they've really heard the outcry. "Coming back with a new plan" feels an awful lot like "wait three months and give it a new coat of paint". The slashcott is a way of trying to make damn sure it's understood this isn't simply 'I don't like it' but the much stronger 'I cannot and will not participate in a version of Slashdot like that being proposed'. With a healthy addendum of, 'WTF were you thinking in the first place!' All IMNSHO, of course.
It would be great if someone launched a hypersonic missile towards Beta.
Ok, I know the whole Beta thing is pissing some people off, but that one was pretty funny.
When you stir up a colony of bees, they buzz around angrily and try to sting you. On the surface, they appear mad, but I think some of them secretly enjoy it. Otherwise, they'd probably go back to the business of making honey as soon as they could.
And then when you replace their hive with a plastic beach ball in a week, both they and you will be surprised and astonished when honey production drops to zero and stays there.
Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.
On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.
Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system. If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.
We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta Commentors - only discuss Beta http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention. Links of note:
Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org IRC Discussion: freenode #slashdot-refugees IRC Discussion: slashnet.org #slashdot
Thanks for the good work!
It's 'don't give us a pro-forma pat on the head while going full steam ahead'. I've yet to see anyone clearly articulate why there's a need for a sweeping upgrade.
There won't be anything left if the new version becomes the only version anyway. Game it out.
We don't know that those predictions will come true. The fast majority of the F*ck Beta comments are coming from ACs. For all we know that could be a single individual or even a bot.
Slashdot has always had disgruntled people participate with it. But a lot of postings by an AC really are worthless to base anything on.
However, if slashdot dies because of this, it won't be because of Dice. It will be because like the dinosaurs, we couldn't adapt.
Fine, here's one more non-AC comment. Beta ought to go to hell. I'll read classic Slashdot or no Slashdot.
Dice made it perfectly clear that, even after all the backlash, Classic will soon be gone:
Most importantly, we want you to know that Classic Slashdot isn't going away until we're confident that the new site is ready.
Dice ignores our complaints, while pretending to listen. Bitching and ruining every single discussion is the only option we have left.
And flat-out bailing, either for a while like the upcoming boycott week from the 10th to the 17th, or permanently.
In brief, it breaks the Slashdot discussion system.
Don't forget to boycott Slashdot entirely for the week of the 10th thru the 17th!
A boycott would be people not using /. at all. At best all the complaining and 'fuck beta' posts are unproductive protests.
That's coming. The complete boycott is Feb. 10th to Feb 17th. In the mean time, keep up the good work with the Beta comments everyone!
Terrible, isn't it? Occasionally I get directed to it and keep reloading/pressing the back button until I don't.
The Slashdot Beta is fucking terrible, and has gone the route of Way Too Much Whitespace and looks like shit.
Whatever drunken idiots think it's a good website should be flayed, castrated, and then shot.
You're being far too kind. The auteur of the beta Slashdot design should be torn into itty-bitty pieces and buried alive. Count me in as another long-time slashdot reader who will be adding the site to Leechblock as soon as I can no longer access class Slashdot. And given the trend topics that have been making it to the top of the pile lately (with this one as a nice exception) I'm kind of wondering why I'm waiting...
" Galileo wasn't locked up in house arrest for his science, he was locked up for being an ass to the church."
Would you care to cite your source on this? Every text I've read that discusses the reasons for his imprisonment cites his research and statements supporting the heliocentric model, or his refusal to recant those statements. How exactly was he an "ass" to the church?
Obviously, by doing science. :-)
That would make it practically impossible to defend yourself against any charges brought against you by a government agency. They would have all this information that they gathered by whatever means are at their disposal, and you'd only have the evidence they presented to be used you and whatever else you are legally able to obtain (within your financial means). There is no way that scenario fits the definition of due process, the government would be practically guaranteed to win every time.
Well, not to state the obvious, but you could actually not do the crime!
Don't run the drugs.
And don't be doing strong arm robbery, or what ever, to get the police so desperate for a way to lock you up that they plant drugs on you. Contrary to popular opinion, its not too hard to go about your life without attracting any police attention.
As long as you're not a minority and only engage in any status-quo approved activities in public.
I live in the Mountain West, and regularly take trips where I need to cover 600 miles or more in a day. Nothing electrical, from Tesla or anyone else, comes close to meeting my needs. And that's without getting into how on a backcountry trip I can haul along a couple of jerrycans to easily and cheaply extend my range.
While a (cheap) electric vehicle might meet my everyday commuting needs, I am not in the market for two cars. One ICE car plus bike and public transit seems to be a far more cost efficient solution to all my transport needs.
You're supposed to become CEO of a billion-dollar bank and then start money laundering. The government's fine with it if you do it that way.
Oh, the string of Attorneys General is pretty bad, but I can't recall any others in the last 40 or 50 years who acted so much like they were running totalitarian state. Ashcroft at least refused to authorize one surveillance program. Has Holder even done that much? And to be clear, I think it's this bit that really pushed him atop the hill of awfulness in my book.
The alternative could be assassination, and I don't mean by the USA. There are many groups active in Russia who would kill Snowden simply to make the USA look bad (if he dies, regardless of the circumstances, most people will assume he was killed by the US). Returning to the US would alleviate living under that kind of fear (assuming he recognizes it).
So he could return to the US, where he can be hauled off to a black site, held without trial, or murdered on the president's say-so? I think he's better off in Russia.
Two different executive branch commissions have now released statements saying they found NSA actions to be illegal. Plus the FISA court's statements on the matter. NSA supporters can keep lying if they want, but it's obvious to anyone with a working internet connection that the NSA violated the law.
Look at what happened to Thomas Drake if you want an example of what happens to whistleblowers in the 21st century United States.
Maybe if the United States government wasn't already well down the road of secret courts, secret trials, and secret evidence that would be a viable option. Bush II and Obama have really proved that old adage about the road to hell. (Assuming they had any good intentions in the first place, that is.)
+ financial compensation for his loss.
how about a ticker tape parade while we are at it.
And a front row seat at the trials of Holder, Clapper, and Alexander. He'll probably be testifying anyway.
No need to talk about stringing them all from streetlights. I'd be happy seeing America's war criminals rotting in their cells at the Hague while they wait for their turn in front of the ICJ.