13.0.0.0/8 Xerox Corporation 15.0.0.0/8 Hewlett-Packard Company 16.0.0.0/8 Digital Equipment Corporation Digital Equipment Corporation, then Compaq, then Hewlett-Packard. 17.0.0.0/8 Apple Inc. 19.0.0.0/8 Ford Motor Company 48.0.0.0/8 Prudential Securities Inc. 47.0.0.0/8 Bell-Northern Research Bell-Northern Research, now absorbed into Nortel.
I'll believe there's a shortage, when those companies explain to me why they need 16.7 million addresses. Each. With a publically reachable IP.
CoolerMaster CM830 Case 4 3into2 SATA hot swap bays 3Ware 9500S-12ML 12 channel controller 12x 1.5TB SATA drives 2x 6 drive RAID5 - 6690GB each GF8200A / Phenom X4 965 / 4x2GB RAM Intel 80GB SSD X25M boot drive external USB DVDRW (no point tying up a drive bay) Windows 2008 x64 (2008 R2 not supported on 9500S - it's an old card, but works for me)
Some other VM's for things like my Exchange server, etc.
Not terribly complex, but has been reliable now for ages, and it works great.
At the moment, we don't see $20 Environmentally Destructive Surcharge sticker on computer motherboards, but if it comes to that, I'm sure we'd all benefit from it.
Um. Okay, so maybe not $20, but we do see $10, here in Alberta. I'm not sure anyone is benefiting from it.
If you're not going to pay for recycled boxes per unit or through taxes, how are you going to pay for them?
I'm going to assume that if someone is getting my recyclables for free, and is probably making something out of them, even if its just raw materials for other industries, that someone, somehwere is making some money on this venture. Thus, they should certainly be able to provide for collection if they're getting all of their inputs essentially free.
on an identical machine for Joe User, and it wouldn't last 2 days. Not even 2 hours, if on broadband
Look, if people can't, regardless of OS, ensure that they have an addon or built in firewall turned on or configured, and/or antivirus and/or antispyware, that's their *fault*.
I understand tht its less of an issue with Linux, but if you buy a house and don't bother to close the front door, stop flipping complaining that people keep taking your stuff.
Computers I set up last wonderfully on broadband - just turn on the freaking built in firewall or make sure they're behind a router/firewall of some sort - hell they probably need a 4+ port switch *anyway*, so why not spend the $40.
This is an old arguement that only gets older every time its spouted.
I would find out either a) why MS UK (I'm assuming UK) would have different pricing for you, or b) why your vendor is ripping you off.
Canadian Pricing for Academic Edition CAL:
R18-00210 Windows Server CAL 2003 English OLP NL AE Device CAL 2003 Non-specific 10.00 R18-00209 Windows Server CAL 2003 English OLP NL AE User CAL 2003 Non-specific 10.00
That price can be found pretty close from a number of Canadian (I'm Canadian, so I'm presenting my rebuttal from that view point) web sites, some as much as $12-13 for the same CAL. Now, I don't sell a lot of licencing, but that would certainly seem to be the right CAL for "Open Licence Program", "No Level", "Academic Edition".
Last I checked $12 (which is where I've found it online) CAD is 5.24 GBP. For 250+100 units, that's 10,500 GBP. I'm assuming that some of the difference between that number and the 22,000 number is the cost of the "Server" licences themselves. The mention of "thousands for every server we'd add later" is strange - if you're using "Per Device" CAL, then its what used to be known as "Per Seat". You don't need more CAL's to access additional servers, just a Server Licence - or about $200 CAD / 87.38 GBP.
Why is your vendor charging you a 500%+ markup on your products? Granted, the MS solution does have a cost, and that debate is fine. But the prices you're quoting are absurd - which may be the fault of whoever is providing you quotes.
Of course, I'm only going from some high level information, and might be way off base. There is a lot of information here that sounds far less like MS did something wrong, and more like your vendor is overcharging you.
"I moved off windows in 1997 when a virus ate my master's thesis."
I'm not sure how it matters if it was a virus or aliens from outer space - you lost your thesis because you didn't have a backup when "something unexpected happened".
What would your complaint have been if it was a hardware failure? Would you have bitched about the manufacturer or the fact that you failed to do a backup, especially on data that had importance to you?
The simple explanation here is that the Saskatchewan taxpayers are picking up the difference.
I wasn't aware that SGI was mandated to turn record profits, and provide them to their shareholders.
However, they ignore the benefit caps that have been instituted in those provinces
I live in Alberta too, have you heard of our $4000 cap? I'll take SGI's insurance rates any day. Seeing's how we already have the downside, can we at least have the upside? Thanks.
Didn't it occur to you to perhaps consider trading in your pocket rocket for a less conspicuous, more practical car?
He's most likely giving you the price he's paying for PLPD, which doesn't take into account the type of car. At 21, in Alberta, he can't afford full coverage, its bound to be more than he earns in a year. My wife is 31, but has only been driving for 2 years (she lived in a smaller town most of her life, never bothered to get a licence, never had to), so is in much the same boat. Doesn't matter that she's over 25, married, clean record, driver training, etc. The *lowest* rate, for PLPD, and no additional coverage on a 91 V6/auto car, is $2600. You don't even want to know what it would cost on my 'pocket rocket', thankfully she refuses to drive it. (I'm not complaining about her rate, as much as pointing out that it would be quite similar, if not better, than the average 18 year old driver with 2 years under their belt.)
I agree. I went looking for a Canon S9000 'larger format' inkjet/photo printer at some point. They had the S960 which is a very nice printer, but only 8x11. I asked if I could do a test print from a CF card, but no go. But I *could* take it home for 14 days, use up all the ink and return it if I liked - according to the sales dude.
So do that I did. Returned it, and mail ordered an S9100 from somewhere else that would actually order it for me.
Sounds like you didn't administer that Windows machine worth a hill of beans. I see posts like yours all the time from people advocating Linux, and how often they have to do this or that to Windows. Done right, I never have to do *any* of these things. What should be done is:
1) get the user a firewall for $60 to block the nastiness that shouldn't come to them.
2) Turn on automatic Windows Updates and set it to do so at 3AM and restart. (or weekly, whatever) The odds of it breaking something for a home user are much slimmer than for a corporate user.
3) Install for them one of the many "free" antivirus programs and set it to update daily
4) Install the Google toolbar to block popups
5) Install something like AdAware to do a scan on startup/scheduled for SpyWare.
6) Configure any current version of OE/OL to block attachments.
So what exactly is left? Because once you've spent to 20 minutes that takes *once*, about the only things you really have left are user error (ie: I deleted my Windows directory), software problems (I installed this program and now this doesn't work), and hardware issues. These pretty much all exist for *nix users as well, they're just a little better about knowing how to fix it.
What keeps me on Windows is that its what I use, support, and have to support. So long as that's the case, I might as well *handle the learning curve* to know how to do so properly.
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13.0.0.0/8 Xerox Corporation
15.0.0.0/8 Hewlett-Packard Company
16.0.0.0/8 Digital Equipment Corporation Digital Equipment Corporation, then Compaq, then Hewlett-Packard.
17.0.0.0/8 Apple Inc.
19.0.0.0/8 Ford Motor Company
48.0.0.0/8 Prudential Securities Inc.
47.0.0.0/8 Bell-Northern Research Bell-Northern Research, now absorbed into Nortel.
I'll believe there's a shortage, when those companies explain to me why they need 16.7 million addresses. Each. With a publically reachable IP.
I needed 4 more 'alters' so I could play Castle Age more :)
Also keep in mind that a lot of laptops only have VGA. As far as I know there are no VGA-DVI adapters (DVI-VGA does exist).
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041903&p_id=2397&seq=1&format=2
Such VGA-DVI adapters do exist. Though, notably, the cheaper ones only do DVI-A and not DVI-D, but they're out there.
CoolerMaster CM830 Case
4 3into2 SATA hot swap bays
3Ware 9500S-12ML 12 channel controller
12x 1.5TB SATA drives
2x 6 drive RAID5 - 6690GB each
GF8200A / Phenom X4 965 / 4x2GB RAM
Intel 80GB SSD X25M boot drive
external USB DVDRW (no point tying up a drive bay)
Windows 2008 x64 (2008 R2 not supported on 9500S - it's an old card, but works for me)
Some other VM's for things like my Exchange server, etc.
Not terribly complex, but has been reliable now for ages, and it works great.
At the moment, we don't see $20 Environmentally Destructive Surcharge sticker on computer motherboards, but if it comes to that, I'm sure we'd all benefit from it.
Um. Okay, so maybe not $20, but we do see $10, here in Alberta. I'm not sure anyone is benefiting from it.
I'm going to assume that if someone is getting my recyclables for free, and is probably making something out of them, even if its just raw materials for other industries, that someone, somehwere is making some money on this venture. Thus, they should certainly be able to provide for collection if they're getting all of their inputs essentially free.
Look, if people can't, regardless of OS, ensure that they have an addon or built in firewall turned on or configured, and/or antivirus and/or antispyware, that's their *fault*.
I understand tht its less of an issue with Linux, but if you buy a house and don't bother to close the front door, stop flipping complaining that people keep taking your stuff.
Computers I set up last wonderfully on broadband - just turn on the freaking built in firewall or make sure they're behind a router/firewall of some sort - hell they probably need a 4+ port switch *anyway*, so why not spend the $40.
This is an old arguement that only gets older every time its spouted.
250+100 units @ 5.24GBP is 1834.00 GBP. Dunno what I was smoking when I made that calculation above.
I would find out either a) why MS UK (I'm assuming UK) would have different pricing for you, or b) why your vendor is ripping you off.
Canadian Pricing for Academic Edition CAL:
R18-00210 Windows Server CAL 2003 English OLP NL AE Device CAL 2003 Non-specific 10.00
R18-00209 Windows Server CAL 2003 English OLP NL AE User CAL 2003 Non-specific 10.00
That price can be found pretty close from a number of Canadian (I'm Canadian, so I'm presenting my rebuttal from that view point) web sites, some as much as $12-13 for the same CAL. Now, I don't sell a lot of licencing, but that would certainly seem to be the right CAL for "Open Licence Program", "No Level", "Academic Edition".
Last I checked $12 (which is where I've found it online) CAD is 5.24 GBP. For 250+100 units, that's 10,500 GBP. I'm assuming that some of the difference between that number and the 22,000 number is the cost of the "Server" licences themselves. The mention of "thousands for every server we'd add later" is strange - if you're using "Per Device" CAL, then its what used to be known as "Per Seat". You don't need more CAL's to access additional servers, just a Server Licence - or about $200 CAD / 87.38 GBP.
Why is your vendor charging you a 500%+ markup on your products? Granted, the MS solution does have a cost, and that debate is fine. But the prices you're quoting are absurd - which may be the fault of whoever is providing you quotes.
Of course, I'm only going from some high level information, and might be way off base. There is a lot of information here that sounds far less like MS did something wrong, and more like your vendor is overcharging you.
"I moved off windows in 1997 when a virus ate my master's thesis."
I'm not sure how it matters if it was a virus or aliens from outer space - you lost your thesis because you didn't have a backup when "something unexpected happened".
What would your complaint have been if it was a hardware failure? Would you have bitched about the manufacturer or the fact that you failed to do a backup, especially on data that had importance to you?
The simple explanation here is that the Saskatchewan taxpayers are picking up the difference.
I wasn't aware that SGI was mandated to turn record profits, and provide them to their shareholders.
However, they ignore the benefit caps that have been instituted in those provinces
I live in Alberta too, have you heard of our $4000 cap? I'll take SGI's insurance rates any day. Seeing's how we already have the downside, can we at least have the upside? Thanks.
Didn't it occur to you to perhaps consider trading in your pocket rocket for a less conspicuous, more practical car?
He's most likely giving you the price he's paying for PLPD, which doesn't take into account the type of car. At 21, in Alberta, he can't afford full coverage, its bound to be more than he earns in a year. My wife is 31, but has only been driving for 2 years (she lived in a smaller town most of her life, never bothered to get a licence, never had to), so is in much the same boat. Doesn't matter that she's over 25, married, clean record, driver training, etc. The *lowest* rate, for PLPD, and no additional coverage on a 91 V6/auto car, is $2600. You don't even want to know what it would cost on my 'pocket rocket', thankfully she refuses to drive it. (I'm not complaining about her rate, as much as pointing out that it would be quite similar, if not better, than the average 18 year old driver with 2 years under their belt.)
I agree. I went looking for a Canon S9000 'larger format' inkjet/photo printer at some point. They had the S960 which is a very nice printer, but only 8x11. I asked if I could do a test print from a CF card, but no go. But I *could* take it home for 14 days, use up all the ink and return it if I liked - according to the sales dude.
So do that I did. Returned it, and mail ordered an S9100 from somewhere else that would actually order it for me.
Sounds like you didn't administer that Windows machine worth a hill of beans. I see posts like yours all the time from people advocating Linux, and how often they have to do this or that to Windows. Done right, I never have to do *any* of these things. What should be done is:
1) get the user a firewall for $60 to block the nastiness that shouldn't come to them.
2) Turn on automatic Windows Updates and set it to do so at 3AM and restart. (or weekly, whatever) The odds of it breaking something for a home user are much slimmer than for a corporate user.
3) Install for them one of the many "free" antivirus programs and set it to update daily
4) Install the Google toolbar to block popups
5) Install something like AdAware to do a scan on startup/scheduled for SpyWare.
6) Configure any current version of OE/OL to block attachments.
So what exactly is left? Because once you've spent to 20 minutes that takes *once*, about the only things you really have left are user error (ie: I deleted my Windows directory), software problems (I installed this program and now this doesn't work), and hardware issues. These pretty much all exist for *nix users as well, they're just a little better about knowing how to fix it.
What keeps me on Windows is that its what I use, support, and have to support. So long as that's the case, I might as well *handle the learning curve* to know how to do so properly.