Do not make excuses, To me its the same as the situation with Isreal and Palistine, no matter what you say, STEALING a country from someone else is not right, and may not even have been necessary.
People in this world just refuse to share, even today.
Theres a big diffrence between slaves of the same race, and slaves of diffrence races. When you are a slave of the same race, theres a chance that down the line if not you, your children or their children will be able to get out of it. It was part of the class system, Europe has slavery too, but with enough money, or with intelligence, there were ways to rise above it.
Slave of diffrent races had 0 chance of ever getting out of slavery no matter what class because they werent considered human.
Chinese came to alaska and spread, is this supposed to be new to us?
We always knew this. I mean really who in their right mind would believe columbus discovered America, the native americans / chinese were the first, then a bunch of other groups came to America and either left or mixed with the chinese, creating the race now known as native american, mexican etc etc
Ok, what happens if you write some source code which decodes the RIAAs copy protected CD, well, guess what you go to jail, all your freedom? Where is it?
Oh and lets not forget, you dont have freedom to even control the information produced by your computer hardware.
Soon you may not even have the freedom of writing open source software at all.
Its not just software, but the whole capitalist system takes away your freedom and gives it to businesses.
What happened to the individuality and your freedom? Guess its all about business now.
USA doesnt force its culture on people? What was Vietnam about again? What about the cold war?
USA doesnt hold a gun to peoples head? Tell that to Fidel.
the USA has enemies because the USA spreads everywhere, Bin laden attacked us because we got involved with him, we destroyed afganastan using bin laden to fight our little enemies the Russians, the whole battle with the Russians was because they had a diffrent culture, we wanted them to be like us and had an entire cold war over it.
Now we want to go bother Sadam for the same reason, We should get out of the middle east right now, Stop helping Isreal, Stop attacking Iraq, stop bothering North Korea
None of these countries attacked us, yet we go there and attack them, then we act surprised when they all gang up on us and do a 911 style attack on us.
There shouldnt be a world government, and if there was, it we shouldnt be the police of the world and expect to not be the biggest target. 911 only happened because we caused it, cause and effect.
Sure Bin laden may not have liked our culture, but he would have never attacked us if we didnt go bother him first and we DID bother him first, we arent innocent.
I'm tired of biased Americans acting like the USA can do no wrong, and its always the innocent angels in the USA vs "EVIL" or the AXIS of EVIL
The UN doesnt support what we are doing, because its wrong, Sure we have the right to attack Al Qaeda, but Iraq? North Korea? Cuba, Somolia, Russia, all this stuff didnt have to happen.In fact if none of it did happen, we wouldnt be hated.
You act as if the USA is better? People in the USA are hypocrites,, I mean the USA has done stuff in its past that was as bad as China, remember slavery? Remember the Cival war? All the stuff that happened in the USA, Sure we may be 50 years ahead of China as far as our governments developed, but we cannot say that we always had more freedomm than China because in the past we were as bad as China, we were as bad as China up until around 100 years ago.
I say we shouldnt worry about China, let China be China and deal with their own problems, The reason we have the Al Qaeda problem is because try to influence other countries and force our culture on them.
I understand we have slightly more freedoms than China, but we arent perfect ourselves, so why should we act likee the Police Nation?
China doesnt hate freedom, for the last time you brainwashed capitalist, the issue with China is not that they dont want their people to have freedom. They dont want to follow the USA.
Their choice is do what they are doing now, or follow us and end up like Japan.
They like linux because linux provides freedom to them, the freedom to not depend on us. You see China does not want to have all their computers running Microsoft Windows, They dont like depending on us, They dont want their culture to be ruined by mixing with ours, This is what they fear more than anything.
Freedom is ok, but when giving your people freedom Benifits the enemy / competition which happens to be the USA, the only way they will have an economy without us influencing them and dominating them like we do everyone else, is to have their OWN internet, seperate from ours.
About censorship, they do have censorship, but so do we, SSSCA, DMCA, we censor for Capitalist reasons, we are no better than they are. As far as other freedoms, they are improving, slowly.
Basically the way they are thinking is, they dont want to depend on us, they want an economy of their own with their own businesses, they dont hate our culture and hate freedom, thats the taliban not the Chinese, the Chinese dont hate the USA, they dont hate Capitalism, they arent evil Communists, they just want to Govern their own country without us influecing.
Is this any diffrent than the Boston Tea Party when we had the entire war so the British couldnt Influence us?
We market our culture to look perfect, when its not.
China has to protect itself from us, You do have a point its not so much fear of capitalism, its fear of our culture.
Because if they try to become part of our culture or part of our economy they'll be at the bottom of the pyramid. They'd be better of building their own seperate pyramid.
Its about preserving their culture, about improving their own economy, thats why they are beginning to avoid Microsoft,
You dont know much about China do you? Culture is everything, at least to the older generation.
There is no culture in the USA besides capitalism,
China sees us as cultureless and they dont want to end up like us. They like the technology of the internet but they dont like our culture and dont want to expose their youth to it.
How can you improve an economy without learning about capitalism? You have forgotten about communism?
It doenst benifit China in ANY way whatsoever to use our Internet, it makes more sense for them to create a seperate internet.
So tell me what the Chinese government has in mind, please no "Evil Communist" crap either, i want logical reasons.
In the usa, Oppression was about Capitalism and making money, it was for a reason, Censorship was about making money and maintaining power.
The Chinese see us as their biggest threat, their greatest competitor, for them to join us in the internet, and fall down and bow before aol and microsoft, you must be joking.
Thats exactly why China is censoring their internet. They arent stupid, they know we dominate the culture of the internet and our culture is about capitalism and greed, They want to improve their own economy not ours, so it makes sense for them to do what they are doing.
The people suffer because of this, but when the people develop their own businesses on the net and their own culture, eventually their government will relax a bit and begin to open up.
The USA wants the government not to control the Chinese internet, so their our US Capitalist big businesses can take control.
We dont have freedom on the net ourselves, China wont have it either, its about control, the US wants to dominate the internet and China is a big market, by opening them up it opens them up to Capitalism.
China is most likely to use linux than we are, i thought we were all about freedom.
Well you see, theres only billions of people left and millions of internet cafes and terminals in 3rd world countries who need an OS thats easy to use and cheap.
Say hello to linux on the desktop.
Not to mention Linux on the desktop would actually help promote innovation through contribution via GNU.
When 600 million Chinese, 100 million japanese, 300 million indians, and 40-50 million africans get online, thats when the real online revolution will take place.
Right now we need to make sure they all have the choice to use Linux, give them some good development tools, graphics tools, and just wait for them to produce information which benifits the world, hopefully they wont be as capitalist as us and patent everything or else we'll be at their mercy.
Please, most children are raised in a broken home, thats the stupidest excuse i've ever heard.
I was raised without a father around, Am I going to wish i were aborted? hell no! And i dont think anyone else raised in a "broken" home wishes they were aborted either unless they have some serious mental problems.
If you are in a foster home, or a broken home, it does not mean you'll grow up to be a bad person.
Please stop talking about emotional problems and proper parantage as if its somehow normal in this day and age to have that knowing that almost half the kids growinng up or who have grown up these days grew up in a broken home. Alot of kids were abused mentally, sexually, etc, and have had it worse than me, and this was by their real parents, honestly this is beyond your control, but even if i grew up like that, i still wouldnt wish i was aborted.
Its not right for you to judge for some other lifeform if it should live or die, its up to that life form to decide for itself, that is my opinion.
Would mean we'd all be consultants, and start our own businesses, small ones of course.. Big business is actually bad for the economy because it decreases competition, innovation and people get paid less
As if theres a diffrence? Women have an abortion to save themselves time and money, they dont want to give birth and they dont want to raise a baby, they could have birth and do adoption but they choose not to.
Abortion is worse, because who gets helped from Abortion? No one but the woman who had the Abortion, this means Abortion is selfish.
Stem Cell research could help any one of us. When you fall and break your spine, you'll change your mind about stem cell research, hell if a woman fell and broke her spine would it be ok for her to use the stem cells to fix her back?
You have a right to your opinion, but i see it as hypocritical.
The president of the republic of the united states of america decided on his own that stem cell research should be limited.
This man was / is a christian and has a very biased point of view, but he desided for the you, you didnt vote.
In fact you didnt even vote him into office, gore won the popular vote, the Democracy ruled in favor of Gore, the Republic however ruled in favor of Bush.
We have a republic, the representatives in congress decide the laws not you, while you do vote to see who represents you, you do not control the government, the laws, or what these people do, these people are controlled by the Enrons of America.
Listen, unless you are CEO of a billion dollar company, you have no control, the top 10% control the USA and really hows that much diffrent than a communist government where 10 percent controls everyone there, or any other type of government.
A true Democracy which we have never really had, would mean each one of us would have the right to vote on every law, the DMCA would have had to get voted in by us and honestly theres no way that could have happened. Because we are a republic, all that has to be done to control our country is bribe the right people.
China or any country could easily control our government, its simple, Sonys of the world, Toshibas and Matsushitas who happen to influence certain political figures could easily hyjack our government if there were enough big powerful Asian Companies.
you see our government is like an open market,its controlled by Capitalism, anyone who has alot of $$ also has alot of control, and that is the flaw of Capitalism.
$$ = Power, not votes, not respect by peers, not intellignece, not wisdom,.
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native america seems to be a mix of all the races, but i beleive the chinese were the native americans
Do not make excuses, To me its the same as the situation with Isreal and Palistine, no matter what you say, STEALING a country from someone else is not right, and may not even have been necessary.
People in this world just refuse to share, even today.
Theres a big diffrence between slaves of the same race, and slaves of diffrence races. When you are a slave of the same race, theres a chance that down the line if not you, your children or their children will be able to get out of it. It was part of the class system, Europe has slavery too, but with enough money, or with intelligence, there were ways to rise above it.
Slave of diffrent races had 0 chance of ever getting out of slavery no matter what class because they werent considered human.
Chinese came to alaska and spread, is this supposed to be new to us?
We always knew this. I mean really who in their right mind would believe columbus discovered America, the native americans / chinese were the first, then a bunch of other groups came to America and either left or mixed with the chinese, creating the race now known as native american, mexican etc etc
Anyhow we know this to begin with
Capitalism works in a labor based society, Labor is hard, not everyone can do it.
However we are heading into an information based society, where even children can produce quality information, this is where communism works.
Thats not usually how it works.
Usually a worker in beijing signs a contract, to have people in their country work in sweatshops to make some sneakers or do cheap labor for us.
China = cheap labor.
China doesnt want to be our cheap labor.
Alot more freedoms?
Ok, what happens if you write some source code which decodes the RIAAs copy protected CD, well, guess what you go to jail, all your freedom? Where is it?
Oh and lets not forget, you dont have freedom to even control the information produced by your computer hardware.
Soon you may not even have the freedom of writing open source software at all.
Its not just software, but the whole capitalist system takes away your freedom and gives it to businesses.
What happened to the individuality and your freedom? Guess its all about business now.
USA doesnt force its culture on people? What was Vietnam about again? What about the cold war?
USA doesnt hold a gun to peoples head? Tell that to Fidel.
the USA has enemies because the USA spreads everywhere, Bin laden attacked us because we got involved with him, we destroyed afganastan using bin laden to fight our little enemies the Russians, the whole battle with the Russians was because they had a diffrent culture, we wanted them to be like us and had an entire cold war over it.
Now we want to go bother Sadam for the same reason, We should get out of the middle east right now, Stop helping Isreal, Stop attacking Iraq, stop bothering North Korea
None of these countries attacked us, yet we go there and attack them, then we act surprised when they all gang up on us and do a 911 style attack on us.
There shouldnt be a world government, and if there was, it we shouldnt be the police of the world and expect to not be the biggest target. 911 only happened because we caused it, cause and effect.
Sure Bin laden may not have liked our culture, but he would have never attacked us if we didnt go bother him first and we DID bother him first, we arent innocent.
I'm tired of biased Americans acting like the USA can do no wrong, and its always the innocent angels in the USA vs "EVIL" or the AXIS of EVIL
The UN doesnt support what we are doing, because its wrong, Sure we have the right to attack Al Qaeda, but Iraq? North Korea? Cuba, Somolia, Russia, all this stuff didnt have to happen.In fact if none of it did happen, we wouldnt be hated.
You act as if the USA is better? People in the USA are hypocrites,, I mean the USA has done stuff in its past that was as bad as China, remember slavery? Remember the Cival war? All the stuff that happened in the USA, Sure we may be 50 years ahead of China as far as our governments developed, but we cannot say that we always had more freedomm than China because in the past we were as bad as China, we were as bad as China up until around 100 years ago.
I say we shouldnt worry about China, let China be China and deal with their own problems, The reason we have the Al Qaeda problem is because try to influence other countries and force our culture on them.
I understand we have slightly more freedoms than China, but we arent perfect ourselves, so why should we act likee the Police Nation?
China doesnt hate freedom, for the last time you brainwashed capitalist, the issue with China is not that they dont want their people to have freedom. They dont want to follow the USA.
Their choice is do what they are doing now, or follow us and end up like Japan.
They like linux because linux provides freedom to them, the freedom to not depend on us. You see China does not want to have all their computers running Microsoft Windows, They dont like depending on us, They dont want their culture to be ruined by mixing with ours, This is what they fear more than anything.
Freedom is ok, but when giving your people freedom Benifits the enemy / competition which happens to be the USA, the only way they will have an economy without us influencing them and dominating them like we do everyone else, is to have their OWN internet, seperate from ours.
About censorship, they do have censorship, but so do we, SSSCA, DMCA, we censor for Capitalist reasons, we are no better than they are. As far as other freedoms, they are improving, slowly.
Basically the way they are thinking is, they dont want to depend on us, they want an economy of their own with their own businesses, they dont hate our culture and hate freedom, thats the taliban not the Chinese, the Chinese dont hate the USA, they dont hate Capitalism, they arent evil Communists, they just want to Govern their own country without us influecing.
Is this any diffrent than the Boston Tea Party when we had the entire war so the British couldnt Influence us?
Think about it.
What you say, i agree with.
We market our culture to look perfect, when its not.
China has to protect itself from us, You do have a point its not so much fear of capitalism, its fear of our culture.
Because if they try to become part of our culture or part of our economy they'll be at the bottom of the pyramid. They'd be better of building their own seperate pyramid.
Its about preserving their culture, about improving their own economy, thats why they are beginning to avoid Microsoft,
You dont know much about China do you? Culture is everything, at least to the older generation.
There is no culture in the USA besides capitalism,
China sees us as cultureless and they dont want to end up like us. They like the technology of the internet but they dont like our culture and dont want to expose their youth to it.
How can you improve an economy without learning about capitalism? You have forgotten about communism?
It doenst benifit China in ANY way whatsoever to use our Internet, it makes more sense for them to create a seperate internet.
So tell me what the Chinese government has in mind, please no "Evil Communist" crap either, i want logical reasons.
In the usa, Oppression was about Capitalism and making money, it was for a reason, Censorship was about making money and maintaining power.
The Chinese see us as their biggest threat, their greatest competitor, for them to join us in the internet, and fall down and bow before aol and microsoft, you must be joking.
You think too much about websites, what about GNU software?
More third world countries = more programmers for GNU Linux and bigger community.
70% of the USA has a computer, 90% have access to the net by some other means
Thats exactly why China is censoring their internet. They arent stupid, they know we dominate the culture of the internet and our culture is about capitalism and greed, They want to improve their own economy not ours, so it makes sense for them to do what they are doing.
The people suffer because of this, but when the people develop their own businesses on the net and their own culture, eventually their government will relax a bit and begin to open up.
The USA wants the government not to control the Chinese internet, so their our US Capitalist big businesses can take control.
We dont have freedom on the net ourselves, China wont have it either, its about control, the US wants to dominate the internet and China is a big market, by opening them up it opens them up to Capitalism.
China is most likely to use linux than we are, i thought we were all about freedom.
Well you see, theres only billions of people left and millions of internet cafes and terminals in 3rd world countries who need an OS thats easy to use and cheap.
Say hello to linux on the desktop.
Not to mention Linux on the desktop would actually help promote innovation through contribution via GNU.
I dont believe 100 percent of every chinese personn will be connected. But i do believe maybe 70 percent will.
When 600 million Chinese, 100 million japanese, 300 million indians, and 40-50 million africans get online, thats when the real online revolution will take place.
Right now we need to make sure they all have the choice to use Linux, give them some good development tools, graphics tools, and just wait for them to produce information which benifits the world, hopefully they wont be as capitalist as us and patent everything or else we'll be at their mercy.
Please, most children are raised in a broken home, thats the stupidest excuse i've ever heard.
I was raised without a father around, Am I going to wish i were aborted? hell no! And i dont think anyone else raised in a "broken" home wishes they were aborted either unless they have some serious mental problems.
If you are in a foster home, or a broken home, it does not mean you'll grow up to be a bad person.
Please stop talking about emotional problems and proper parantage as if its somehow normal in this day and age to have that knowing that almost half the kids growinng up or who have grown up these days grew up in a broken home. Alot of kids were abused mentally, sexually, etc, and have had it worse than me, and this was by their real parents, honestly this is beyond your control, but even if i grew up like that, i still wouldnt wish i was aborted.
Its not right for you to judge for some other lifeform if it should live or die, its up to that life form to decide for itself, that is my opinion.
Shouldnt the scientist who created the cells in a lab "OWN" the cell and thus have the same rights as a mother?
NZ is not capitalist either, you can go to college for free, hell you even get allowances from the government.
Would mean we'd all be consultants, and start our own businesses, small ones of course.. Big business is actually bad for the economy because it decreases competition, innovation and people get paid less
As if theres a diffrence? Women have an abortion to save themselves time and money, they dont want to give birth and they dont want to raise a baby, they could have birth and do adoption but they choose not to.
Abortion is worse, because who gets helped from Abortion? No one but the woman who had the Abortion, this means Abortion is selfish.
Stem Cell research could help any one of us. When you fall and break your spine, you'll change your mind about stem cell research, hell if a woman fell and broke her spine would it be ok for her to use the stem cells to fix her back?
You have a right to your opinion, but i see it as hypocritical.
Abortion is legal, which means sperms with eggs are legally not alive even if they are actually alive.
The president of the republic of the united states of america decided on his own that stem cell research should be limited.
This man was / is a christian and has a very biased point of view, but he desided for the you, you didnt vote.
In fact you didnt even vote him into office, gore won the popular vote, the Democracy ruled in favor of Gore, the Republic however ruled in favor of Bush.
We have a republic, the representatives in congress decide the laws not you, while you do vote to see who represents you, you do not control the government, the laws, or what these people do, these people are controlled by the Enrons of America.
Listen, unless you are CEO of a billion dollar company, you have no control, the top 10% control the USA and really hows that much diffrent than a communist government where 10 percent controls everyone there, or any other type of government.
A true Democracy which we have never really had, would mean each one of us would have the right to vote on every law, the DMCA would have had to get voted in by us and honestly theres no way that could have happened. Because we are a republic, all that has to be done to control our country is bribe the right people.
China or any country could easily control our government, its simple, Sonys of the world, Toshibas and Matsushitas who happen to influence certain political figures could easily hyjack our government if there were enough big powerful Asian Companies.
you see our government is like an open market,its controlled by Capitalism, anyone who has alot of $$ also has alot of control, and that is the flaw of Capitalism.
$$ = Power, not votes, not respect by peers, not intellignece, not wisdom,.