Try running IE via Wine and comparing it to Mozilla, Then you'll have an equally fair comparison because neither Mozilla or IE would be native apps.
IE loses all of the sudden.
See Mozilla is slow because XUL is slow, however theres programs like Galeon for Linux and Kmeleon for Windows which use the native Windows Libraries and Classes just likee IE, making Mozilla just as fast as IE.
Thats only because the browser is part of the OS itself.
Next you will be saying how fast Konq is on KDE.
Loading speed doesnt really matter as people get more ram and faster harddrives, what will matter most will be security, stability, and rendering speed. All which Mozilla have.
Mozilla truely is a next generation browser, most peoples computers arent fast enough to handle it, however if you have over 300mhz and over 128 megs of ram your computer will be just fine.
Since my browser is always open i dont care how fast the program is, but if i did theres galeon
What are you talking about? Its already better than Netscape, Its also better than IE at loading pages, its more secure than IE, its more stable than IE, the only thing IE has left is the program loads faster and thats mainly due to it being tied into windows itself.
Mozilla in 4 years, has surpassed IE, a program which has been in development for 8 years.
Do we really know now if life is on mars or not? no air or water on the surface, what about under the surface?? When they drill on mars, or can get a probe to actually land on mars, we will find out.
As far as life on other planets, I'm 99 percent sure theres life on europa, that planet is like the south pole is on earth, alot off ice, and alot of water under the ice, meaning theres bound to be life under the ice, and the life could be intelligent life at that.
Europa would be the planet to check for contact with aliens, the fact that we havent even a probe planned for Europe must mean Nasa isnt trying to discover intelligent life, they wouldnt know how to handle it if they did.
bacteria, thats a life form simplee enough for us to properly handle.
Imaginee us going to Mars or Europa, and bringing back some unknown alien lifeform, will that lifeforms friends send ships to earth and attack us, who says they arent as intelligent as us, now they could be like aliens on earth but some of these other planets had life on them long before earth.
Who knows.
In my opinion i dont see why we need to bring stuff back at all, we can do all of our tests in space to make sure its safe, bring it to a space station. Let astronaughts deal with it.
IF its a live alien why tell the people about that? so they can panic? Let the astronaughts in space interview the alien or run some tests, then send it back to its friends.
Seems Nasa expects to only find bacteria and other simple life.
How are you going to deal with intelligent life, i mean come on bacteria????????? We shouldnt worry about that stuff, we should be worried about how to deal with contact with REAL alien life, meaning stuff that we've never seen before and wont know how to deal with which is as intelligent or more intelligent than us.
Comparing us to pymies is still comparing human to human.
They are as smart as us, they have been around as long as us, we have maybe a hundreds of years of advantage over them, this isnt the same as billions of years advantage, orr millions, or thousands.
If they did leave probes, or markings, wouldnt we assume its a trick of light and shadow, or just ignore it? Or what if its so advanced that we cant even see it. Last but not least how do you know we havent discovered stuff already and thought it was from humans, or how do you know our government hasnt discovered stuff and not told us.
As far as how we are lookingg for stuff we will never find anything, as far as radio and other waves go, thats a useless effort however if we tried going to actual planets and searching through the dirt, we might actually find something interesting (thats if we havent already, theres debates about stuff being on mars as we speak)
They'd be creating and destroying universes, and traveling through time and dimensions.
They wouldnt be alive in the same physical world we are, i'd think after billions of years their technology would be so great that they'd create their own universe for themselves and be traveling through dimensions.
If we ever did have contact with them we'd prolly worship them as God because they'd be so much more advanced than us that they could prolly destroy our universe in an instant.
Maybe you should think of an alien species a few thousand years or even a few million years ahead of us but not BILLIONS of years.
A species THAT advanced would be Godlike, I mean in a few hundred years we will be able to completely control matter, perhaps live a few hundred years longer, and travel at beyond light speed and we have only been around maybe a few hundred thousand years, maybe a million tops.
A billion years, is 1000 times longer, meaningg they'd have 1000 times the technology of us, be 1000 times more evolved mentally, socially, and physically, they may not even need physical bodies anymore they may be that evolved.
The reason we cant find life in space is because we may be too stupid to find it, other species may be so far ahead of us that we are like single cell organisms to them.
If we were a single cell organism we wouldnt notice a human even though a human is like god to a singlee cell organism. Bacteria is used by us like a tool, while it can be dangerous, we treat it like a tool, Aliens more advanced than us would treat us like a tool if they were millions of years older than us, thousands of years older than us and they'd treat us like a pet, hundreds of years older than us and they might enslave us, our only chance is to find aliens below us, or exactly on the same level, because those are the only aliens we'd be smart enough to detect.
As far as aliens billions of years older than us, they wouldnt even notice we exsist, and even if they did, they could prolly wipe out our entire universe if we pissed them off in the slightest.
Think about this, If aliens do come to earth, do you think they'd announce it? Do you think our government would annouce it? DO you think our scientists would have the guts to even look for aliens?
Face it, Aliens may already have come here, its not like we are trying to stop them, or even looking for them. We even give them maps with DNA.
IF aliens are a few thousand or millions of years ahead of thus they'd be so advanced they'd be like gods to us, we wouldnt even see them unless they allowed us to, nothing we have could detect them, hell they could prolly control our every thought like we control some mechanical device like a computer or a robot.
Think about it, do we really want to deal with aliens at our stage of development? It would be like throwing a small child or baby into the jungle filled with wild animals. This is why I think it was utterly stupid of us to give our DNA up and Maps to earth, inviting any hostile alien to come claim our planet.
Even the native americans were smart enough not to go to europe with a map to America and give them the ability to blend in.
I mean with DNA, Aliens could come here as humans and you'd never know it.
And when the possibility of life in this dimension ends, we go to another one, not to mention with Nano technology and the ability to harness anti matter energy we could create our own stars.
Dont forget other aliens in the universe far smarter than us wouldnt allow all the stars to just burn
However, I dont think solar sail technology is the way, currently it seems NASA is a joke, they send junk into space with our DNA on it and now want to send even more of it, I think after we have a hostile situation with some aliens, we will be sending most of our probes on missions to get back the little time capsules with our DNA and maps to our planets in them. However by then Earth would have been taken over by aliens and we will have been pushed off into space.
This idea is almost as stupid as the idea of sending our DNA and other junk out into space for potential hostile aliens to use against us.
Now we are worried about what will happen to the sun billions of years from now? In another couple thousand years we will have technology so advanced that the solar sail idea would have been a complete waste of time and resources.
At the rate of development we will be a type 3 civilization within thousands not millions of years.In a hundred years or so we will have the ability to use nano technology and completely control matter, extend life with genetic technology, and use warp drives, anti matter could provide the energy source.
With Nano technology we could create our own planets if we want to. As far as the sail technology goes. Think of it this way, we can send a sail out into space, but it would be like creating a hot air balloon knowing that next week you'll have a MACH6 speed jet plane which will surpass the air balloon in a few hours.
What we should be doing right now, is gathering information with probes, exploring planets like mars, and developing nano technologies. With a wormhole we could literally fold space itself if we had the energy of a star, so yes its possible for us to create a worm hole in space, and that idea sounds better than solar sail because a worm hole can get from point A to point B instantly regardless of the distance.
IT does make since to live in ships in space, because theres only so many planets in the solar system, and we may not have the technology before the earth over populates but really and honestly, these people are way too optimistic about humanity actually being over populated, theres aids, theres wars that will happen, i dont think we will need to popular other planets for serveral thousand years because thats how long it would take for us to socially evolve to the level where we are beyond war. We may however have the technology to teleport or travel through worm holes within the next hundred years, just because the technology exsists doesnt mean we'd use it, we have technology now to let us run our cars on air itself, on water, on sunlight and so on and we dont. Its not about technology, its about when society is ready.
If we survive another hundred years then i think we'll be advanced enough to travel at beyond light speed, maybe even teleport via quantum entanglement, otherwise we will have destroyed ourselves, or we will be dominated by corperations and government who will be conservative and not want to mess up the economy by investing in such matters (kinda like the situation now, kill enviornment and save the economy says Bush.)
Theres more computer programs than Powerpoint. Theres lots more. And also you forget about the internet, you are discussing and learning about stuff on slashdot and you think your kid cant be discussing something about history or math in a similar kinda site?
Freedom of religion?? Wrong. Witches, Satanists and any non christians were stoned and burned.
Everyone created equal? I guess thats why there was slavery for hundreds of years.
Until recently Women had next to no rights, wheres freedom there?
On paper sure this country was supposed to be a democracy, with freedom for all, and justice and whatever, but in reality the founders were hypocrites and believed in freedom for themselves not for all.
If you want to bring history into things its only harming your argument and proving we have NEVER had absolute and complete freedom, and we may never have it.
The point isnt to have absolute freedom, its a balance between freedom and order.
Anarchy = absolute freedom
Slavery = absolute lack of freedom
The goal is somewhere in between.
With all the new technologies we have, we have no choice really but to give the government more power. We cant even control our own technologies and our own people, so what do you expect?
Governments job is to keep order, Freedom is fine but only when people are mature enough to handle it.People arent evolved enough to handle Anarchy, arent mature enough to handle the freedom in the constitution, werent mature enough when it was written to handle it, and still arent.
Freedom should be something people can handle, Sure we can handle alot of freedom, but we cant handle absolute freedom yet. Take a look at the world around you, Absolute freedom ok lets change all the laws which restrict freedom.
Make drugs legal, let kids buy guns and drink, let everyone drop out of school, what happens? You gave them freedom they werent mature enough to handle and they will use that freedom to destroy the whole world.
I'm not against freedom, but its a balancing act, give as much as they can handle, no more and no less. Right now we cant handle a society with no law enforcement, and the only way to enforce laws is with surviellance and advanced technologies.
I'm not saying police should be able to tap your phone or bug your house, but if you are in public then they SHOULD be able to see and even hear you. If you dont want to be watched stop being in public places. Theres no privacy in public, its like trying to find privacy at work.
Want privacy? Go to a more isolated area, and with privacy you can do whatever you want but you'll only bee able to harm yourself.
You see the goal is to keep you from having the freedom to harm others, not take freedoms away from you.
How do we get from simple video cameras all around the city, to bugs and video camers?
Ok fine, instead of the government controlling this, it should be free for anyone to control, people like you and me should start putting up cameras for surviellance and it should tie into some way to alert the proper athorities when crimes take place.
If we put our cameras up then the government wont have to, but someone has to because there must be law enforcement in any government, unless you want anarchy.
Spy cameras = slavery? no. You dont really lose any freedom, go into your house, and you have complete freedom.
Leave your house and be watched by people.
Police have been watching you for years, neighborrhood watches have been setup to do the same thing. This is how you control crime.
You make it illegal to spy on people from within their home.
but it should be legal for the intelligence agencies to watch people, its their job.
Now if you are in your house, yes you are losing privacy
What privacy do you have outside? anyone can watch you, take pictures of you, police have been doing it for years and you cant do shit about it.
Theres no loss of freedom because its a freedom you never had to begin with.
Something has to be done, freedom is good, but if you want extreme freedom what you have is anarchy, freedom must be a controlled freedom, there has to be order, laws and so on.
The world isnt filled with people intelligent enough to handle complete freedom, and it wont bee intelligent enough to handle it when our kids grow up, face it, if we dont increase our security, our kids wont grow up at all.
You arent losing freedom from this kinda security. I agree some other laws they are trying to pass take freedom, but thats deliberate.
Security via surviellance is one of the few ways to have security without losing any freedom and stupid freedom fighters are against that even.
What do you want? You NEED security, this isnt debateable, after 911 its a fact, security is NEEDED. How do you want to get it? Surviellance, National ID card, or should we turn into Nazi Germany and start losing our freedom entirely.
Something must bee done, I say we use Surviellance, if that doesnt work we may have to increase efforts.
Whats more important, survival or your privacy, would you want to die right now, or ide 50-60 years from now?
What do you need privacy for? to launch the next terrorist attack? Kinda like people who complain about cameras in banks, why complain ? They are there to keep some wiseguy from robbing you when you take your money out of your ATM machine, if you want to rob people then you'd care about the Cameras being there.
Privacy should not rank higher than security because if you are dead, your privacy wont matter anymore.
Ask people who died at 911 if they are glad they kept their privacy when the plane flew into their building.
I'm sorry but the crime rates are out of control, terrorism is out of control, something must be done.
Attacking the problem and expecting it to go away wont work, because they WILL strike back, theres going to be more attacks, we need to have defense.
I'd gladly accept surviellance knowing terrorism wont be as easy anymore. I want security, I want privacy in my house, but really I'm not losing any freedom from surviellance, so what they watch you, as long as you arent a criminal or terrorist why would you care or even notice. People are watched in banks, and malls, why not have cameras in every street corner, so when you go outside you know you are safe?
Honestly, i'd prefer to live in safety, than rely on luck of not being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
If you were in the world trade center, you'd agree that security is more important than having the privacy to buy books in public places without being watched.
Now sure this can be taken too far, FBI hacking into your computer, or spying on you on the internet, thats invading your privacy and i'm against that, but when you go outside and you are physically around lots of other people, there should be an eye watching everything thats goingg on and if things get out of hand, the police should be alerted and arrive within a few minutes.
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Its in second place
Netscape is Mozilla. Mozilla is netscape.
Its just the fastest browser for Windows.
Try running IE via Wine and comparing it to Mozilla, Then you'll have an equally fair comparison because neither Mozilla or IE would be native apps.
IE loses all of the sudden.
See Mozilla is slow because XUL is slow, however theres programs like Galeon for Linux and Kmeleon for Windows which use the native Windows Libraries and Classes just likee IE, making Mozilla just as fast as IE.
Thats only because the browser is part of the OS itself.
Next you will be saying how fast Konq is on KDE.
Loading speed doesnt really matter as people get more ram and faster harddrives, what will matter most will be security, stability, and rendering speed. All which Mozilla have.
Mozilla truely is a next generation browser, most peoples computers arent fast enough to handle it, however if you have over 300mhz and over 128 megs of ram your computer will be just fine.
Since my browser is always open i dont care how fast the program is, but if i did theres galeon
What are you talking about? Its already better than Netscape, Its also better than IE at loading pages, its more secure than IE, its more stable than IE, the only thing IE has left is the program loads faster and thats mainly due to it being tied into windows itself.
Mozilla in 4 years, has surpassed IE, a program which has been in development for 8 years.
Do we really know now if life is on mars or not? no air or water on the surface, what about under the surface?? When they drill on mars, or can get a probe to actually land on mars, we will find out.
As far as life on other planets, I'm 99 percent sure theres life on europa, that planet is like the south pole is on earth, alot off ice, and alot of water under the ice, meaning theres bound to be life under the ice, and the life could be intelligent life at that.
Europa would be the planet to check for contact with aliens, the fact that we havent even a probe planned for Europe must mean Nasa isnt trying to discover intelligent life, they wouldnt know how to handle it if they did.
bacteria, thats a life form simplee enough for us to properly handle.
Imaginee us going to Mars or Europa, and bringing back some unknown alien lifeform, will that lifeforms friends send ships to earth and attack us, who says they arent as intelligent as us, now they could be like aliens on earth but some of these other planets had life on them long before earth.
Who knows.
In my opinion i dont see why we need to bring stuff back at all, we can do all of our tests in space to make sure its safe, bring it to a space station. Let astronaughts deal with it.
IF its a live alien why tell the people about that? so they can panic? Let the astronaughts in space interview the alien or run some tests, then send it back to its friends.
Seems Nasa expects to only find bacteria and other simple life.
How are you going to deal with intelligent life, i mean come on bacteria????????? We shouldnt worry about that stuff, we should be worried about how to deal with contact with REAL alien life, meaning stuff that we've never seen before and wont know how to deal with which is as intelligent or more intelligent than us.
Comparing us to pymies is still comparing human to human.
They are as smart as us, they have been around as long as us, we have maybe a hundreds of years of advantage over them, this isnt the same as billions of years advantage, orr millions, or thousands.
If they did leave probes, or markings, wouldnt we assume its a trick of light and shadow, or just ignore it? Or what if its so advanced that we cant even see it. Last but not least how do you know we havent discovered stuff already and thought it was from humans, or how do you know our government hasnt discovered stuff and not told us.
As far as how we are lookingg for stuff we will never find anything, as far as radio and other waves go, thats a useless effort however if we tried going to actual planets and searching through the dirt, we might actually find something interesting (thats if we havent already, theres debates about stuff being on mars as we speak)
Send humans who arent selfish, violent and who actually care about the enviornment.
you send ignorant people, you create an ignorant world,
Now, as far as if it can bee done having it being done is nott the same thing.
Economics controls all of this, it wont be done until it benifits corperations, the government, etc.
Right now it doesnt benifit those people, it will benifit those people a few hundred years from now when the economy crashes because its burned out.
They'd be creating and destroying universes, and traveling through time and dimensions.
They wouldnt be alive in the same physical world we are, i'd think after billions of years their technology would be so great that they'd create their own universe for themselves and be traveling through dimensions.
If we ever did have contact with them we'd prolly worship them as God because they'd be so much more advanced than us that they could prolly destroy our universe in an instant.
Maybe you should think of an alien species a few thousand years or even a few million years ahead of us but not BILLIONS of years.
A species THAT advanced would be Godlike, I mean in a few hundred years we will be able to completely control matter, perhaps live a few hundred years longer, and travel at beyond light speed and we have only been around maybe a few hundred thousand years, maybe a million tops.
A billion years, is 1000 times longer, meaningg they'd have 1000 times the technology of us, be 1000 times more evolved mentally, socially, and physically, they may not even need physical bodies anymore they may be that evolved.
The reason we cant find life in space is because we may be too stupid to find it, other species may be so far ahead of us that we are like single cell organisms to them.
If we were a single cell organism we wouldnt notice a human even though a human is like god to a singlee cell organism. Bacteria is used by us like a tool, while it can be dangerous, we treat it like a tool, Aliens more advanced than us would treat us like a tool if they were millions of years older than us, thousands of years older than us and they'd treat us like a pet, hundreds of years older than us and they might enslave us, our only chance is to find aliens below us, or exactly on the same level, because those are the only aliens we'd be smart enough to detect.
As far as aliens billions of years older than us, they wouldnt even notice we exsist, and even if they did, they could prolly wipe out our entire universe if we pissed them off in the slightest.
Think about this, If aliens do come to earth, do you think they'd announce it? Do you think our government would annouce it? DO you think our scientists would have the guts to even look for aliens?
Face it, Aliens may already have come here, its not like we are trying to stop them, or even looking for them. We even give them maps with DNA.
IF aliens are a few thousand or millions of years ahead of thus they'd be so advanced they'd be like gods to us, we wouldnt even see them unless they allowed us to, nothing we have could detect them, hell they could prolly control our every thought like we control some mechanical device like a computer or a robot.
Think about it, do we really want to deal with aliens at our stage of development? It would be like throwing a small child or baby into the jungle filled with wild animals. This is why I think it was utterly stupid of us to give our DNA up and Maps to earth, inviting any hostile alien to come claim our planet.
Even the native americans were smart enough not to go to europe with a map to America and give them the ability to blend in.
I mean with DNA, Aliens could come here as humans and you'd never know it.
And when the possibility of life in this dimension ends, we go to another one, not to mention with Nano technology and the ability to harness anti matter energy we could create our own stars.
Dont forget other aliens in the universe far smarter than us wouldnt allow all the stars to just burn
However, I dont think solar sail technology is the way, currently it seems NASA is a joke, they send junk into space with our DNA on it and now want to send even more of it, I think after we have a hostile situation with some aliens, we will be sending most of our probes on missions to get back the little time capsules with our DNA and maps to our planets in them. However by then Earth would have been taken over by aliens and we will have been pushed off into space.
This idea is almost as stupid as the idea of sending our DNA and other junk out into space for potential hostile aliens to use against us.
Now we are worried about what will happen to the sun billions of years from now? In another couple thousand years we will have technology so advanced that the solar sail idea would have been a complete waste of time and resources.
At the rate of development we will be a type 3 civilization within thousands not millions of years.In a hundred years or so we will have the ability to use nano technology and completely control matter, extend life with genetic technology, and use warp drives, anti matter could provide the energy source.
With Nano technology we could create our own planets if we want to. As far as the sail technology goes. Think of it this way, we can send a sail out into space, but it would be like creating a hot air balloon knowing that next week you'll have a MACH6 speed jet plane which will surpass the air balloon in a few hours.
What we should be doing right now, is gathering information with probes, exploring planets like mars, and developing nano technologies. With a wormhole we could literally fold space itself if we had the energy of a star, so yes its possible for us to create a worm hole in space, and that idea sounds better than solar sail because a worm hole can get from point A to point B instantly regardless of the distance.
IT does make since to live in ships in space, because theres only so many planets in the solar system, and we may not have the technology before the earth over populates but really and honestly, these people are way too optimistic about humanity actually being over populated, theres aids, theres wars that will happen, i dont think we will need to popular other planets for serveral thousand years because thats how long it would take for us to socially evolve to the level where we are beyond war. We may however have the technology to teleport or travel through worm holes within the next hundred years, just because the technology exsists doesnt mean we'd use it, we have technology now to let us run our cars on air itself, on water, on sunlight and so on and we dont. Its not about technology, its about when society is ready.
If we survive another hundred years then i think we'll be advanced enough to travel at beyond light speed, maybe even teleport via quantum entanglement, otherwise we will have destroyed ourselves, or we will be dominated by corperations and government who will be conservative and not want to mess up the economy by investing in such matters (kinda like the situation now, kill enviornment and save the economy says Bush.)
The computer = the real world. Yes you can make real money using the computer. Talk to real people, and do real business.
Theres more computer programs than Powerpoint. Theres lots more. And also you forget about the internet, you are discussing and learning about stuff on slashdot and you think your kid cant be discussing something about history or math in a similar kinda site?
Public = Public.
Its that simple. You have no privacy in public.
Our forfathers were complete hypocrites.
Freedom of religion?? Wrong. Witches, Satanists and any non christians were stoned and burned.
Everyone created equal? I guess thats why there was slavery for hundreds of years.
Until recently Women had next to no rights, wheres freedom there?
On paper sure this country was supposed to be a democracy, with freedom for all, and justice and whatever, but in reality the founders were hypocrites and believed in freedom for themselves not for all.
If you want to bring history into things its only harming your argument and proving we have NEVER had absolute and complete freedom, and we may never have it.
The point isnt to have absolute freedom, its a balance between freedom and order.
Anarchy = absolute freedom
Slavery = absolute lack of freedom
The goal is somewhere in between.
With all the new technologies we have, we have no choice really but to give the government more power. We cant even control our own technologies and our own people, so what do you expect?
Governments job is to keep order, Freedom is fine but only when people are mature enough to handle it.People arent evolved enough to handle Anarchy, arent mature enough to handle the freedom in the constitution, werent mature enough when it was written to handle it, and still arent.
Freedom should be something people can handle, Sure we can handle alot of freedom, but we cant handle absolute freedom yet. Take a look at the world around you, Absolute freedom ok lets change all the laws which restrict freedom.
Make drugs legal, let kids buy guns and drink, let everyone drop out of school, what happens? You gave them freedom they werent mature enough to handle and they will use that freedom to destroy the whole world.
I'm not against freedom, but its a balancing act, give as much as they can handle, no more and no less. Right now we cant handle a society with no law enforcement, and the only way to enforce laws is with surviellance and advanced technologies.
I'm not saying police should be able to tap your phone or bug your house, but if you are in public then they SHOULD be able to see and even hear you. If you dont want to be watched stop being in public places. Theres no privacy in public, its like trying to find privacy at work.
Want privacy? Go to a more isolated area, and with privacy you can do whatever you want but you'll only bee able to harm yourself.
You see the goal is to keep you from having the freedom to harm others, not take freedoms away from you.
How do we get from simple video cameras all around the city, to bugs and video camers?
Ok fine, instead of the government controlling this, it should be free for anyone to control, people like you and me should start putting up cameras for surviellance and it should tie into some way to alert the proper athorities when crimes take place.
If we put our cameras up then the government wont have to, but someone has to because there must be law enforcement in any government, unless you want anarchy.
Spy cameras = slavery? no. You dont really lose any freedom, go into your house, and you have complete freedom.
Leave your house and be watched by people.
Police have been watching you for years, neighborrhood watches have been setup to do the same thing. This is how you control crime.
You make it illegal to spy on people from within their home.
but it should be legal for the intelligence agencies to watch people, its their job.
Now if you are in your house, yes you are losing privacy
What privacy do you have outside? anyone can watch you, take pictures of you, police have been doing it for years and you cant do shit about it.
Theres no loss of freedom because its a freedom you never had to begin with.
Something has to be done, freedom is good, but if you want extreme freedom what you have is anarchy, freedom must be a controlled freedom, there has to be order, laws and so on.
The world isnt filled with people intelligent enough to handle complete freedom, and it wont bee intelligent enough to handle it when our kids grow up, face it, if we dont increase our security, our kids wont grow up at all.
I see theres no programmers here
Better programs is why you should use 3.0
Slackware, Mandrake, Suse, but no package for redhat?
Its called law enforcement, before cameras were all over, Police were all over.
Theres not enough police, so we have cameras.
Security.
You arent losing freedom from this kinda security. I agree some other laws they are trying to pass take freedom, but thats deliberate.
Security via surviellance is one of the few ways to have security without losing any freedom and stupid freedom fighters are against that even.
What do you want? You NEED security, this isnt debateable, after 911 its a fact, security is NEEDED. How do you want to get it? Surviellance, National ID card, or should we turn into Nazi Germany and start losing our freedom entirely.
Something must bee done, I say we use Surviellance, if that doesnt work we may have to increase efforts.
Whats more important, survival or your privacy, would you want to die right now, or ide 50-60 years from now?
There should be no privacy in PUBLIC.
Public = not private.
Outside = PUBLIC.
What do you need privacy for? to launch the next terrorist attack? Kinda like people who complain about cameras in banks, why complain ? They are there to keep some wiseguy from robbing you when you take your money out of your ATM machine, if you want to rob people then you'd care about the Cameras being there.
Privacy should not rank higher than security because if you are dead, your privacy wont matter anymore.
Ask people who died at 911 if they are glad they kept their privacy when the plane flew into their building.
Surveillance should be in all public places.
I'm sorry but the crime rates are out of control, terrorism is out of control, something must be done.
Attacking the problem and expecting it to go away wont work, because they WILL strike back, theres going to be more attacks, we need to have defense.
I'd gladly accept surviellance knowing terrorism wont be as easy anymore. I want security, I want privacy in my house, but really I'm not losing any freedom from surviellance, so what they watch you, as long as you arent a criminal or terrorist why would you care or even notice. People are watched in banks, and malls, why not have cameras in every street corner, so when you go outside you know you are safe?
Honestly, i'd prefer to live in safety, than rely on luck of not being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
If you were in the world trade center, you'd agree that security is more important than having the privacy to buy books in public places without being watched.
Now sure this can be taken too far, FBI hacking into your computer, or spying on you on the internet, thats invading your privacy and i'm against that, but when you go outside and you are physically around lots of other people, there should be an eye watching everything thats goingg on and if things get out of hand, the police should be alerted and arrive within a few minutes.