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  1. It depends on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    IF you love what you are good at, thats cool but be realistic too.

  2. Thats you on Working Hard? · · Score: 1

    Not everybody views work as their life. For some people, it's family. For others, it's about experiencing the world. What you get paid for is not necessarily your life's work; sometimes, you find your life's work in a hobby, even though nobody pays you for it.


    Different people have their own motivations.

    There just isn't enough room in the limelight for everyone to be remembered for the profound contributions they made to society - and it's also unlikely that a grocery clerk's contributions were that profound. If you want to have a profound sense of satisfaction for your time wasted on earth as a grocery clerk, then more power to you.

    I dont care if I remember as long as I do something that matters. I dont care about fame.

    Life is about the little moments. A sunset enjoyed with loved ones while camping out at the local lake can be a far more profound and beautiful experience in a couple of hours than you'll ever find in stocking the peas on aisle four for the next twenty years.


    I live in the city, I dont have a lake to camp at, not that I'd mind this every once in a while but I'd most likely have my mind on my work anyway.

    To me it doesnt matter, my #1 goal is to change the world for the better. If my job leads me to accomplish my mission, it doesnt matter how many hours because the more I work the more I'd accomplish my mission.

  3. Re:What are you gonna do on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    Move to india.

  4. Re:The problem is people take jobs just for the mo on Working Hard? · · Score: 2, Insightful


    If your brother likes his job whys he complain?

    and he makes good money

    Well i guess some people do enjoy flipping burgers and selling shoes.

  5. Re:I will on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    I dont really care about the internet.

  6. Jobs dont have to be enjoyable. on Working Hard? · · Score: 0



    You just have to truely WANT to do the job. I'm not saying working in the peacecorp or for a non-profit would be fun, I'm saying I wouldnt have a problem doing it because it would improve the world and it would matter.

    Jobs dont have to be enjoyable for a person to work hard, a perosn simply must be motivated to accept the mission, and not just treat it like quick money.

    People should make their job their lifes work, their meaning of living, and put 100% of themselves into their job, if each person were to do this they'd not only do a better job at work, but they wouldnt complain or care if the job isnt "Enjoyable"

    They'd know they are doing what they are good at, and doing something which matters either to them, or to many people in the world.

    I am currently working full-time as an English teacher, which I do *gasp!* to pay the bills. The work isn't onerous, and leaves me plenty of time for the good stuff. I'm paid full-time, yet contractually obligated to only work 35 hours a week. I'm guaranteed 20 days of vacation a year, and the difference is carried over into the new year. I still freelance for producers I know at home, so I get to have my cake and eat it, too.

    If I were an English teacher I'd make it my life, I'd dedicate my life to perfecting English and teaching it to kids.It wouldnt matter how many hours I worked because hours are a means to an end, to be the best English teacher in the world you do whatever it takes. The ultimate goal is to produce students who know english, but you see the reason people dont take jobs seriously is because American employers treat employees like shit.

    A job like teacher should be held up as high as congressman, president, CEO, Doctor, or any of these other big jobs, but its not,

    The reason its not is because people work for money, and employers take them for granted, no one wants to respect the hard work of a teacher even though a teachers job is more important than a Lawyer, a Doctor, a CEO, a Banker, a Programmer.

    Lets not even mention policeman, fireman and some of these other jobs with great importance to the world and society which people never give enough credit to.

  7. Re:Do a job you actually WANT to do then. on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    No its not, work for a non profit. work in a hospital, become a teacher, or go to college and get degrees until you figure out some things you actually are good at.

  8. Re:I will on Working Hard? · · Score: 1

    Welfare? How do you figure?

    People who are on welfare dont work, thats usually how they end up on welfare in the first place.

    The only thing I worry about is rent and food, thats all that matters. Thats the only reason I need money, to pay bills.

    Now, take your average college student, most of them live on campus, the government via financial aid pays for some of this, they do their college work without worrying about bills and finding a meal.

    Now, when they get out yes theres bills, but thats why theres community colleges. Welfare is for people who have alot of kids or who are too lazy to go to college(or too dumb)

    I dont have kids, I just have me, so my plan is to go into debt getting my degree, and when I get out of school I'll get a job or join the peacecorp or whatever.

    It doesnt matter because I dont plan to take a job for the money, I'll take a job which matters over a job which pays alot, I had a job which paid alot during the dot com era, and it sucked.

  9. Re:I will on Working Hard? · · Score: 1

    Well then there you go, If I have to worry about paying bills and buying food, I cant work for free.

    You see, if my job were to let me LIVE there, and they buy the food, I would have no problem with working in exchange for room & board.

    However, when you have bills to pay, this is when salary begins to matter, this is when money matters.

    "Are you telling me that you will work like a dog for less than $700 a month ?"


    What if I told you that I already do? College students dont make much money, college grads dont make much money.

    You see, my plan is to live off $700 a month with a roomate after I finish school, and while I'm in school, so your point is what? If I work and go to school I'm working all day in school and getting nothing then work all night after school just to pay for food, and a place to sleep.

    I wouldnt mind joining the peacecorps, its a good option, lets see if they actually select me.

  10. Re:PeaceCorps! on Working Hard? · · Score: 1

    I know about them, I'll need my degree first. Then I'll need to get selected.

  11. Re:EXACTLY, you are the kinda person I talk about. on Working Hard? · · Score: 1


    Actually, 52.3%

    Ok about half the population.


    Tell that to Martha Stewart. Or better yet, tell her kids.


    I dont know anything about her.

    If you make over 75K a year the married percentage climbs to 81.7%

    This just goes to show that alot of women are gold diggers. Lets assume that 50% is the ratio of people who will get married for the entire population, this rises +30% when you make more money because certain women (or men) will marry a person for money, financial stability, etc.

    I on the other hand if I made 75k a year certainly wouldnt tell anyonne, and I wouldnt get married.

    So your stats dont really matter, they dont prove anything, sure alot of people are married, alot of people work for alot of reasons, but fact is half the population isnt married.

  12. I will on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    If the government pays for my food, along with room & board, I'll do it.

    Any Employee who wants to hire me, I'll work for free as long as you give me food, water and a bed.

  13. Wrong, on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    Because when you just work for money you dont actually care about your job, and so you do a shitty job.

    We are a very materialistic nation -- the majority of us work to buy the things we want. The countries that take a lot of vacation days are generally the countries where the latest SUV and 5 bedroom house is not a necessity. Here in America, we need our ... STUFF!


    Stuff is useless, stuff doesnt make me happy, stuff is just tools which I can use to "waste" time, this time could be used to do work that matters.

    As far as vacation days, I'm a supporter of vacations, I dont think anyone can do a good job forever without getting sick, losing their creativity, or draining themselves and just needing a break.

    I dont think you should get paid for your vacation, but you should get a couple weeks vacation a year.

    Anyway, the materialist people you mention, these people are the exact ones who work the least and who do a terrible job.

    If you become a police officer just for the paycheck you'll never be a good crime fighter. You'll be a fat cop who sits around giving people tickets all day.

    So let the materialists work at Mc Donalds, and or in their cubical at the office,

  14. Do a job you actually WANT to do then. on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    It doesnt matter if you work 5, or 7 days a week if its a job you actually want. I mean really, if I could have the job I wanted I'd do it 7 days a week, a vacation here and there and I'm all set.

  15. EXACTLY, you are the kinda person I talk about. on Working Hard? · · Score: 1



    Someone who is married with children can never dedicate themselves to any job. You work for your wife and kids, thats what motivates you to go to work every day. You want to see your kid get a good education, you want a house, etc etc

    However, we have alot of people who arent married, and who dont have kids, who work also, in fact half the population is unmarried and without kids.

    12 hours a day is not out of the question for me. I dont have a wife or kids, so I can dedicate myself 100%, I WONT however dedicate myself 100% to a pointless job like Mc Donalds, I want to make the world a better place, thats what motivates me. MC Donalds does what for the world?

  16. The problem is people take jobs just for the money on Working Hard? · · Score: 3, Interesting


    When you work just for the money, of course you dont want to be there, you dont want to be doing what you are doing, but you do it because you get paid to.

    Clerk Jobs, and many of these other meaningless jobs, of course no ones going to be motivated to work long and hard doing that, how the hell can you motivate yourself to go to your mc donalds job everyday? Whats your motivation? To be the best burger flipper who ever lived? No thats not it, to help people by making them fat? Maybe thats not it either, you see there are no motivations to these jobs.

    This is why I hate the corperate world and the corperate attitude, I myself would prefer to work for a non profit because I dont see myself ever being motivated by money.

    Say your a grocery clerk earning $12.00 an hour stocking shelves. You work 4 days a week and you work on a sunday. You opt to NOT work that 5th weekday because you know that you can make double time, or time and half on sundays. So you work your way up the ladder and get that sunday as a "cherry" day where you could have simply worked that "normal day". There is SO MUCH of this, it's crazy.

    You see? Thats the exact problem, it doesnt matter how much you pay a grocery clerk, they will NEVER care about their job, but you know what? It also doesnt matter how much you pay a manager because they will never care about their job either.

    Most jobs people have simply dont matter, they dont improve the world in any way, they dont improve you as a person, and no one cares if you are good at it. Why not be a teacher? Even a construction worker matters more than some guy in an office working in a cubical.

    Remember, these laws cost us. The employer eats this salary and doesn't get to claim that employee's hours on the books -- it's considered "overtime" and not part of the 40 hours work week. It effects unemployement taxes and is a huge burden on the accounting side.


    Who cares about the empoyer? Most of the time Employers dont matter any more than Employees, does Bill Gates matter to society? No, maybe he did back when he made Windows95, but that was the 90s, right now he doesnt matter.

    So it depends on who your Employer is, and how important they are to both the industry and to society as a whole. Some Employers are better off being hurt.

    It eventually hurts the employer by costing them lot's of money which they eventually push back to us by keeping the prices up and/or hiring less employees.


    Bad logic, if they raise prices and we dont buy, they go out of business. If they hire less employees they cannot expand their business.

    I say "shit or get off the pot". If you want sunday to be a "holy day" or you don't want to have overtime pay for over 40 hours for certain types of "non-exempt" employee's then you can't have "wishy washy" blue law's that just don't make sense anymore in 2003.

    I think workers should be able to decide their contracts, I dont think the government should have any control over this. If I sign a contract to work 7 days a week 12 hours a day, THATS THE AGREEMENT. If I sign on to do it at a certain price, THAT IS THE AGREEMENT.

    If I sign on to work 5 days a week 40 hours a week, THAT is the agreement. If my employer wants me to work overtime, they must sign a new overtime agreement with me!

    I know one thing. My brother-in-law who's in a union and works for a grocery chain here in MA was complaining recently that he has to now pay for health insurance. I thought (that sucks), then he told me it was $50.00 a month. I almost puked. We (I own a software company here in Boston) pay $925 per family to BCBS -- I'd kill for $50.00 a month... But, yet, he complains.


    If your brother had a job that MATTERED, your brother wouldnt be complaining. He must not really like his job if he complains, perhaps he should quit.

    Yes, he's very angry that he can't earn $34.00 an hour on sunday's anymore instead of making $22.00 on a n

  17. Not working hard enough. on Working Hard? · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    If it were up to me, I'd put beds at work and have people live their job. Be glad i'm not your CEO.

    Vacations are good though, but you have to think of it this way, you should have a job you actually WANT to do, and you wont have a problem working 12 hours a day. Of course if you work at Mc Donalds you'll hate working 12 hours a day.

    So the best way to get a person to work hard is to simply hire people who truely enjoy the job, and let the others sign a temp contract.

  18. Re:NTFS support already in Linux on Using Linux for Windows HD Snapshots? · · Score: 1

    how exactly do you get RedHat9 to recognize your NTFS drive? It doesnt even my drive.

    Is this a kernel patch? a program or what?

  19. Re:Thats why I said focus on smart people first. on GNU/Linux bootable CD on XBOX: dyne:bolic · · Score: 1

    Well, in your reply that I replied to, you told the guy to use a recent version of Linux to base his opinions on. I now say the same thing to you in reference to windows.

    I am using XP right now, its harder to use than the new KDE 3.2 for me.

    seriously hope you don't beleive that. The reason viruses are rare in Linux is because there are a lot more windows users, many of them ignorant in the ways to protect themselves. I do not have an active virus scanner (I check monthly, however) and I have never had a virus. I have closed off the vectors I know about, and just use common sense, something many people don't. When you have people who literally are just ignorant (and before you get all in arms about that word, please look it up).

    No, most important computers are running Linux, the US government, school servers, corperate servers, databases, etc. Most hackers attack corperate boxes, the viruses and trojans however attack IIS because its easier to hack, not because they arent trying to hack a webserver running Apache on Linux.




    Oh, so all the 31337 h4xz0rz use linux now? That has nothing to do with anything, except that you seem to feel all the 'good' hackers are on linux. (In a way they are, but thats a code hacker, not the kind you were referring to)


    Its more difficult to write a good denial of service application for Windows, its also more difficult to use already written tools because most of the useful tools are for Linux. Finally using Linux allows you to see exactly how to hack Windows, the buffer overflows, and all these exploits, the code is usually written in Linux because you cant hack a windows box from a windows box, we are talking serious hacking here, not virus writers and crackers.




    Uh, since its a hardware keylogger, they don't need your root password, although they could certainly get it. Once again, its the same deal with windows. Password protect your account, how are they going to get the password to install a software keylogger?


    Hardware keyloggers dont work if you use a scrambler or encrpytion software, unless the hardware keylogger literally gets your keystrokes from the computer or video card information, someone can easily use a program which scambles the data coming from the keyboard. Also if its so easy to get root passwords, well I guess IBM and the US government will be hacked by Al Qaeda at any time now, because believe me keyloggers are the oldest trick in the book.


    I mentioned a bunch of features that made WindowsXP a lot easier to use than Windows 98. The Start Menu actually changes depending to how you use the computer. In my experience however, the changes are very intuitive. When I had dial-up, it had a Connection toolbar there. When I got broadband and set up a wireless network, a Network Neighbor Hood icon appeared. My Computer, My Documents, My Music, as well as the 6 most used programs thats I use, all appear right when I click start. And you know what? For the most part, after Windows has 'learned' what I use most, I never have to go through the start menu to search for something. Sure, every once in a while I do, but if it becomes a usual thing, eventuallyl that will appear on the start menu replacing something I do less. Oh, and by the way, thats all customizable in less than, 7 clicks. If thats too complicated for you, well then I doubt you're actually using Linux now anyway.

    Most people dont use that feature, even if its useful most people have important icons on their desktop such as their dialup icon. The most used I con thing? Linux does that too.
    My Computer, My Documents, My Music? Most people dont use these features, and its not really proven that these features make things easier to use, for me it makes things harder.

    I prefer ease of use that Linux offers. XP is more complex than 98 but theres no evidence of it being better, you are talking about your own personal exper

  20. Re:Microsoft should have owned them a long time ag on Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo · · Score: 1

    if Iraq had disarmed and destroyed their WMD we wouldnt have had to do it for them.

  21. Re:Thats why I said focus on smart people first. on GNU/Linux bootable CD on XBOX: dyne:bolic · · Score: 1

    My computer's been up for 9 days so far, and I haven't lossed any work. As long you're not using something outdated (Windows ME, 98, etc) you should not have to worry about crashes.

    Most people are using WindowsME and 98.

    Of course, Linux viruses are impossible (Old example, yes, but its just to prove a point)


    Linux viruses are impossible if you know what you are doing and arent logged in as root, they are also highly unlikely if you dont know what you are doing and you use something like Click N Run to get your files.

    This may actually be true, but only to a point. Yes, it would be harder for someone to send them a trojan, remotely this really isn't true, as long as both machines were secured.


    Most hackers use Windows, so the really good hackers who might be using Linux wont be interested in hacking college students, they will be too busy trying to hack the Windows based computer lab.

    Uh, this could be done with Linux, too. And as for me, I lock my computer up every time I get up, (as well as have a BIOS password) so I'd personally be worried more about those keyloggers that install on the back of the keyboard than a software one. (Which of course would work in any OS)


    No it cant, how do you get their root password to install ANYTHING like that?

    How in the world is XP hard to use? One of the best things I like about XP is that it keeps track of how often you use something, and adds it to the start menu. Often, I don't even have to look for the program I want to use, because its right there for me. I have used all of the above mentioned and I would have to say XP was probably the best out of them all UI-wise. (OS X was just, weird. Not badmouthing it though, was very very pretty)

    Its harder to use than OSX and KDE. Its Harder to use than Windows98, theres no new features which make XP easier to use, it just makes things more complicated, some people think anything if its released by Microsoft is easy because alot of people use it, thats not why people use it, they use it because their PC came with it.

    Oh give me a break. How many people freaked out just because XP has the ability to send crash reports to them? If XP had this feature (which it does to some extent, you can send and ask for help using MSN Messenger) most people would spout conspiracy theories on how 'Microsoft is going to take over all our computers!'


    Most people arent Anti Microsoft.

  22. Steve Ballmer is a genius. on What is Open Source? · · Score: -1, Troll



    He's a Harvard Graduate, He has an IQ of almost 200, hes a certified genius. This guy is also has billions of dollars to your every penny. When he has a heart attack you wont see a dime of his money so why do you worry about him?

    I hope he donates a few billion dollars to whatever highschool and college you went to and give them new computers with Microsoft Longhorn.

  23. What are you thinking?! on Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo · · Score: -1, Troll



    Java should be closed source, the open source developer community has done nothing for the US economy but drive our jobs over to India.

    Look, if you want your job back, you need to pick a side, you can be an open source zealot without a job, or you can patent your software and work for Microsoft.

  24. Microsoft should have owned them a long time ago. on Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo · · Score: -1, Troll



    Microsoft should just buy them and get it over with. They should also buy Nintendo and Merge with Sony.

    Microsoft needs to stop the GPL, before it ruins the whole US economy, if we could just outlaw the GPL Microsoft wouldnt need to hire Indian programmers anymore.

    Maybe if Americans stopped working for free they'd get hired.

  25. Microsoft should just buy Sun. on Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo · · Score: -1, Troll



    I dont see how Sun can figure Java even is in the same league as .Net, but even if it is, the solution is to just buy Sun, and then stop producing Java, its that simple.

    Also in the process Microsoft should buy SCO so they can own the Linux code, this open source movement would be stopped cold if Microsoft would just spend their money. If this doesnt work hopefully they will hire a lobbying committe and talk to Orlin Hatch to get him to make Linux illegal along with filesharing.