Re:Government size isnt important to me
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Because its a local matter, rich neighborhoods have the advantage, This is exactly why most people are poorly educated in this country, most people arent rich.
How the @#$ do you earn an education?!
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There is no such thing as "willingly paying with taxes." No one is, or would be, *forcing* you to do anything. Education is not a right.
Come on, you are going to tell a 5 year old kid, to EARN his education? How? Child Labor? Slave Labor? What?
How exactly can a child "Earn" an Education? What the hell?
Taxes ARE robbery... at the point of a gun. You've just hired government thugs to do the dirty work for you and you can be assured they're taking a (very substantial) cut.
Would you prefer the government rob you of your money, or me? Because if education werent free I'd rob you to "Earn" my education so i can get a proper job.
Incidentally, there is far more poverty since the government started its "War on Poverty" in the 60's than there ever was before. Government is the primary *cause* of poverty.
Lack of education is the #1 cause of poverty. Show me a homeless harvard graduate and I'll show you 20 homeless people who never got their highschool dimploma, I'll then show you 20 people in prison without highschool diplomas, you blame the government? No you cant blame the government for them not being educated enough to get a job.
I would *prefer* that you rob me yourself if you're going to do it. At least that way, you would be as clear as I am about what's happening and you would get the full "take" instead of paying the overhead of having someone else commit the crime for you.
If this is the case, the price of success = being robbed by the failures therefore the failures would keep everyone down and no one would be successful. Look when the government robs you, you get to keep your life, when a poor person robs you, they might and might not have morals, you might not survive it.
Oh and by the way while I'm smart enough to hack into your bank account and rob you painlessly, not everyone is as smart, alot of people might just stab you in a dark alley, hell you could have riots where thousands of people decide to loot all the rich neighborhoods.
if you are just writing easy stuff you dont need to really think about it you just code it,
like if you were going ot write an ftp program. a web browser etc they are all written the same way and theres mozillas gecko engine.
Re:Socialism is all that works for information
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There would be more poverty without public services therefore more chaos, i'd be forced to rob you so i can pay for my education instead of you willingly paying with taxes for example.
Lets bring back slavery.
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Thats basically what hes proposing we do. His so called pure Capitalism is just slavery, before the cival war, thats what we had, Slavery.
I'm sorry but if pure capitalism worked so well America wouldnt have been founded in the first place considering the founders could have just remained slaves and peasants of Europe.
USA never had true capitalism
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True" capitalism CAN work, and it DID work in America's most prosperous era (from the founding until the Civil War, when Lincoln's many fascist treasons corrupted the whole political system)" Oh so using slaves to do all the work and just sitting and taking their money is pure capitalism? If you believe its Capitalism I suppose you also support reperations? After all if slaves did all this work shouldnt they be paid the money your pure capitalist ancestors "earned"?
Like I said, We have never had pure capitalism, and for pure capitalism to work it has to be fair. This means no slavery or other forms of cheating. "If people aren't smart enough to save money to educate their children, then they'll need to LEARN responsibility over the generations when they're poor. That's what's great about this country -- the unintelligent "darwinistically" fall by the wayside, and the MOST intelligent from other countries immigrate to our country to make the society stronger." They wont live for generations. Poor people die quickly, or become criminals which your tax dollars use to build their prisons, face it what you are saying is that only successful people should survive. People who arent born into success will be poor and uneducated, lets say this was you, lets say you had nothing, no parents, no money, and you were homeless, how would you turn this around with no free education?
Also I dont support darwins theory, Darwin was talking about the competition between species in terms of evolution when resources are limited and competition for these resources are required.
The world is not like highlander, or at least it doesnt have to be, we dont need to fight over resources when theres enough food to feed everyone, it becomes a self destruction process,Sure you can have capitalism but it has to work for everyone rich or poor.
I know I'm a solo voice, but the hopes for liberty ARE growing, and I can only hope that people eventually see the fallacy that we "NEED" public education, or that we "NEED" minimum wage laws (laws that have removed 500,000+ jobs from the market, and hurt minorities and the young). Pick up one of those two books, settle in for a long week, and learn why Government Doesn't Work.
You arent a solo voice, you are a typical upper class rich white male, most likely single, who had a mother and a father put you in a private school and provide all you needed to be successful.
What you dont realize is, not everyone in this country has what you have and gets a fair start, people who start with nothing and people who start with everything are in two diffrent worlds.
Capitalism as you mentioned cant work for this simple reason, if you are poor, and you dont have any support from family, you cannot get an education, so you cannot get a legit job, so you go to crime and end up in prison because in your society theres absolutely no other option.
How exactly do you move up in the class system if theres absolutely no free services to help you do it? There has to be a way up if theres a way down.
Options, provide the same wage for everyone and make education not matter at all (yeah right)
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Make education free for everyone and use education to decide wage, allowing people rich or poor to be able to benifit from Capitalism.
Why do we need minimum wage? Alot of people cant work 3 jobs and raise kids.
Alot of people have to work 2 jobs now just to survive onn their own WITH minimum wage, without minimum wage more people would have jobs, less people would be on welfare, but the poverty would be much more extreme than it is now.
Extreme Poverty becomes Extreme Crime, alot of pregnant teenage women will be robbing people and begging on the streets, because they arent educated enough to get a good job.
And lets not even try to imagine how the kid would turn out if they had to live on the streets with a mother who works 3 jobs and still cant afford anything, I guess you'll have to remove the child labor laws so kids can go to work and they can survive.
Government size isnt important to me
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Whats important is where the money is going. We spend 450 billion on the military, and 20 billion on schools? We need to raise the school budget and bring down military budget, bring up the budgets for cures for cancers and life extention, bring up the budget for NASA, bring down the budget for the FBI and CIA who waste our money fighting the endless war on drugs.
Best of all our democracy should allow us to vote for where the money goes, if we could vote on where the money goes in the first place we'd have an efficient government.
Piracy is Constitutional.
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Thats just my point, Piracy is just sharing information, thats free speech, thats constitutional!
So how can you be anti piracy yet support freedom of speech? You cant censor someones speech by saying they cant share intellectual property, then say you support it.
Corperate Welfare? Well real capitalism only works on paper not in the real world.
Real Capitalism or Real Socialism has never been done, mainly because it requires a perfect society to do it, which we can never have.
You'll always need public schools, police, free hospitals, and so on.
There will never be a pure anything for a long long time.
Currently the best we can do is have a mix of Capitalism and Socialism.
Socialism to give everyone universal benifits, the right to have the military protect them for example, the right to get an education, etc
People arent always born with the money to go to private school, buy a shitload of machine guns, pay their own personal doctor, and so on.
And if people did have to do this, doctors would make less money on average because people wouldnt have any money to pay them with, teachers would be working for pennies literally and poor students would never have access to good teachers, etc etc.
People can argue all they want for a pure Capitalist world but its just impossible, just like a pure Socialist world is impossible, the only way we could have a world like this is to have a utopia where everyone is responsible,mature, intelligent, and we have a perfect democracy.
When we have a Utopia then we can decide if we want it to be a Capitalist Utopia or A Socialist Utopia.
Right now we arent there yet.
Socialism is all that works for information
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And we are becoming more and more an information based economy.
True Capitalism couldnt work in the real world just like true Socialism cant work. Theres a reason we are a mixture of both, because this is the only thing that could work.
Without public schools, police, government, etc we'd have complete chaos because the people in this country arent intelligent enough, arent responsible enough, and they arent mature enough to successfully govern themselves.
Greed helps everyone? Thats not even logical, Greed only helps you, it doesnt always have to harm everyone else, but it only helps YOU.
Greed helps you. Depending on how you make your money decides how many people you help or harm.
I could say Socialism helps everyone too, you go to the police when you need them, you depend on the military to defend you from al qaeda, without socialism you wouldnt even have the internet, we would have never gone to the moon, we wouldnt have big industries.
Look, pure capitlaism can never work, its a pipe dream, pure socialism most likely can never work either, the best we can do is have a mixture of both, as the economy becomes less labor based and more information based, and we dont have to work as hard, we'll become more socialist, progression forces socialism because you cant sell something when theres unlimited amounts of it.
Capitalism if it was pure, it could work if it were 100 percent fair capitalism, this means capitalism without globalism, this means forcing companies to raise the minimum wage they pay their workers along with the amount of money the company brings in, meaning dynamic salary which increases when companies do good and decreases when they do bad, equal salary for everyone in the company this means the CEO shouldnt make billions and everyone else thousands unless the CEO actually is working the hardest and has been working there the longest.
Enron and Worldcom situations should not be tolerated at all, a person should go to jail for life and their assets removed from them.
Globalism cannot work in pure Capitalism because Capitalism is all about small businesses not big businesses, big businesses are like governments and we dont need this.
No tax? Theres always going to be a tax because people always have to pool their money together to pay for say military forces or hospitals, however by making paying the tax a choice such as a donation you could still have pure capitalism while increasing freedom.
copyright and IP are not constitutional.
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Because patents and copyright restrict speech.
Post the source code to DCSS? Go to jail. Transmit a file to a user on P2P? Go to jail.
Freedom of speech is being removed by Capitalism, Greed is destroying the constitution. If you want to claim the USA is all about freedom, and hype the USA up to China and Communist countries, saying USA is the greatest country in the world.
On paper USA is the greatest country in the world, however we dont even follow our own rules! Constitution says freedom of speech rules above capitalism, so why are we allowing capitalism to remove universal rights?
If you are going to have freedom of speech there are no special case senarios, this means no source code can be copyrighted, and everything on the net we should have the right to share and copy freely.
Saying we cant share this, we cant copy that, we cant use certain source code, and we cant even mention how the code works in public, theres no free speech left on the net. I fear there wont be any off the net either after everything is patented.
Americans throw away freedom for capitalism
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Intellectual property and copyright law in the digital era = censorship.
The computer is a communications tool which is an extention and enhancement to our ability to communicate and express ourselves, source code is the method of expression, 1s and 0s are the output of this expression.
However current intellectual property law is designed to reduce our abilities to express ourselves via code or even to copy a file.
Copyright and Intellectual property is out of control right now and its slowly removing our freedomm of speech and our right to expression.
Why is it ok to censor people in the name of capitalism, no one but rogue pirates dare step forward and say what we all know is happening.
Freenet, GNU, etc etc, its all about freedom of speech. Alot of people claim "well if you are going to have freedom to be open source you should also have freedom not to be"
However when you arent open source and you support the patent system you support censorship. Its very funny how Americans can jump to complain about China and the evils of Communism, claiming USA is all about freedom, claiming the constitution, but its all bullshit.
USA is about Capitalism right now, not freedom. While we are more free than China, we are only more free than China for now, eventually Capitalism will remove all freedom from us due to our own greed.
I dont care if Disney made this movie or not, any movie where Disneys name is anywhere in the credits I will not buy, rent, or support in any fashion whatsoever.
Walt Disney? Boycott.
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Dont buy or rent this movie. It only helps Disney kill open source.
I think some kids need residential school in highschool, at risk kids who have no families around, who live in bad parts of town who could get shot in front of their house.
But I also think it should be their choice after age 16, if they want to keep going they can, if not they can stop going
Actually no I'd expect aliens to be much smarter than that lol.
In 300 years? They could already know about it via technology we cant even comprehend and could be conquering us right now.
They could just hiijack our DNA which we gave to them and come to earth as human, and then because of democracy and their superior intelligence take over the world through technology and politics.
Hell they could destroy us just by coming here and giving us more technology than our governments could handle, like the internet and nano technology!
Radio Signals allows them to know theres something going on at Earth. But they'd have to come here physically to see exactly what we were doing, They'd have to physicially land a ship, get out, snatch a few hundred of us of us from all diffrent races and capture our DNA.
They wouldnt be able to just hiijack our DNA from space, and come to earth looking just like us.
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Because its a local matter, rich neighborhoods have the advantage, This is exactly why most people are poorly educated in this country, most people arent rich.
There is no such thing as "willingly paying with taxes." No one is, or would be, *forcing* you to do anything. Education is not a right.
Come on, you are going to tell a 5 year old kid, to EARN his education? How? Child Labor? Slave Labor? What?
How exactly can a child "Earn" an Education? What the hell?
Taxes ARE robbery... at the point of a gun. You've just hired government thugs to do the dirty work for you and you can be assured they're taking a (very substantial) cut.
Would you prefer the government rob you of your money, or me? Because if education werent free I'd rob you to "Earn" my education so i can get a proper job.
Incidentally, there is far more poverty since the government started its "War on Poverty" in the 60's than there ever was before. Government is the primary *cause* of poverty.
Lack of education is the #1 cause of poverty. Show me a homeless harvard graduate and I'll show you 20 homeless people who never got their highschool dimploma, I'll then show you 20 people in prison without highschool diplomas, you blame the government? No you cant blame the government for them not being educated enough to get a job.
I would *prefer* that you rob me yourself if you're going to do it. At least that way, you would be as clear as I am about what's happening and you would get the full "take" instead of paying the overhead of having someone else commit the crime for you.
If this is the case, the price of success = being robbed by the failures therefore the failures would keep everyone down and no one would be successful. Look when the government robs you, you get to keep your life, when a poor person robs you, they might and might not have morals, you might not survive it.
Oh and by the way while I'm smart enough to hack into your bank account and rob you painlessly, not everyone is as smart, alot of people might just stab you in a dark alley, hell you could have riots where thousands of people decide to loot all the rich neighborhoods.
Yeah but you use their code when you run Microsoft windows.
No one cares about optimised high quality code, they just want it written on time for release date.
In a global economy the guys in india who will work for 18-20 hours a day will be hired and you will be fired.
most coding you are just following the script or plan.
Now if you are lead programmer or something maybe but usually programs are designed first then coded
if you are just writing easy stuff you dont need to really think about it you just code it,
like if you were going ot write an ftp program. a web browser etc they are all written the same way and theres mozillas gecko engine.
There would be more poverty without public services therefore more chaos, i'd be forced to rob you so i can pay for my education instead of you willingly paying with taxes for example.
Thats basically what hes proposing we do. His so called pure Capitalism is just slavery, before the cival war, thats what we had, Slavery.
I'm sorry but if pure capitalism worked so well America wouldnt have been founded in the first place considering the founders could have just remained slaves and peasants of Europe.
True" capitalism CAN work, and it DID work in America's most prosperous era (from the founding until the Civil War, when Lincoln's many fascist treasons corrupted the whole political system)"
Oh so using slaves to do all the work and just sitting and taking their money is pure capitalism? If you believe its Capitalism I suppose you also support reperations? After all if slaves did all this work shouldnt they be paid the money your pure capitalist ancestors "earned"?
Like I said, We have never had pure capitalism, and for pure capitalism to work it has to be fair. This means no slavery or other forms of cheating.
"If people aren't smart enough to save money to educate their children, then they'll need to LEARN responsibility over the generations when they're poor. That's what's great about this country -- the unintelligent "darwinistically" fall by the wayside, and the MOST intelligent from other countries immigrate to our country to make the society stronger."
They wont live for generations. Poor people die quickly, or become criminals which your tax dollars use to build their prisons, face it what you are saying is that only successful people should survive. People who arent born into success will be poor and uneducated, lets say this was you, lets say you had nothing, no parents, no money, and you were homeless, how would you turn this around with no free education?
Also I dont support darwins theory, Darwin was talking about the competition between species in terms of evolution when resources are limited and competition for these resources are required.
The world is not like highlander, or at least it doesnt have to be, we dont need to fight over resources when theres enough food to feed everyone, it becomes a self destruction process,Sure you can have capitalism but it has to work for everyone rich or poor.
I know I'm a solo voice, but the hopes for liberty ARE growing, and I can only hope that people eventually see the fallacy that we "NEED" public education, or that we "NEED" minimum wage laws (laws that have removed 500,000+ jobs from the market, and hurt minorities and the young). Pick up one of those two books, settle in for a long week, and learn why Government Doesn't Work.
You arent a solo voice, you are a typical upper class rich white male, most likely single, who had a mother and a father put you in a private school and provide all you needed to be successful.
What you dont realize is, not everyone in this country has what you have and gets a fair start, people who start with nothing and people who start with everything are in two diffrent worlds.
Capitalism as you mentioned cant work for this simple reason, if you are poor, and you dont have any support from family, you cannot get an education, so you cannot get a legit job, so you go to crime and end up in prison because in your society theres absolutely no other option.
How exactly do you move up in the class system if theres absolutely no free services to help you do it? There has to be a way up if theres a way down.
Options, provide the same wage for everyone and make education not matter at all (yeah right)
or
Make education free for everyone and use education to decide wage, allowing people rich or poor to be able to benifit from Capitalism.
Why do we need minimum wage? Alot of people cant work 3 jobs and raise kids.
Alot of people have to work 2 jobs now just to survive onn their own WITH minimum wage, without minimum wage more people would have jobs, less people would be on welfare, but the poverty would be much more extreme than it is now.
Extreme Poverty becomes Extreme Crime, alot of pregnant teenage women will be robbing people and begging on the streets, because they arent educated enough to get a good job.
And lets not even try to imagine how the kid would turn out if they had to live on the streets with a mother who works 3 jobs and still cant afford anything, I guess you'll have to remove the child labor laws so kids can go to work and they can survive.
Whats important is where the money is going. We spend 450 billion on the military, and 20 billion on schools? We need to raise the school budget and bring down military budget, bring up the budgets for cures for cancers and life extention, bring up the budget for NASA, bring down the budget for the FBI and CIA who waste our money fighting the endless war on drugs.
Best of all our democracy should allow us to vote for where the money goes, if we could vote on where the money goes in the first place we'd have an efficient government.
Thats just my point, Piracy is just sharing information, thats free speech, thats constitutional!
So how can you be anti piracy yet support freedom of speech? You cant censor someones speech by saying they cant share intellectual property, then say you support it.
Corperate Welfare? Well real capitalism only works on paper not in the real world.
Real Capitalism or Real Socialism has never been done, mainly because it requires a perfect society to do it, which we can never have.
You'll always need public schools, police, free hospitals, and so on.
There will never be a pure anything for a long long time.
Currently the best we can do is have a mix of Capitalism and Socialism.
Socialism to give everyone universal benifits, the right to have the military protect them for example, the right to get an education, etc
People arent always born with the money to go to private school, buy a shitload of machine guns, pay their own personal doctor, and so on.
And if people did have to do this, doctors would make less money on average because people wouldnt have any money to pay them with, teachers would be working for pennies literally and poor students would never have access to good teachers, etc etc.
People can argue all they want for a pure Capitalist world but its just impossible, just like a pure Socialist world is impossible, the only way we could have a world like this is to have a utopia where everyone is responsible,mature, intelligent, and we have a perfect democracy.
When we have a Utopia then we can decide if we want it to be a Capitalist Utopia or A Socialist Utopia.
Right now we arent there yet.
And we are becoming more and more an information based economy.
True Capitalism couldnt work in the real world just like true Socialism cant work. Theres a reason we are a mixture of both, because this is the only thing that could work.
Without public schools, police, government, etc we'd have complete chaos because the people in this country arent intelligent enough, arent responsible enough, and they arent mature enough to successfully govern themselves.
Greed helps everyone? Thats not even logical, Greed only helps you, it doesnt always have to harm everyone else, but it only helps YOU.
Greed helps you. Depending on how you make your money decides how many people you help or harm.
I could say Socialism helps everyone too, you go to the police when you need them, you depend on the military to defend you from al qaeda, without socialism you wouldnt even have the internet, we would have never gone to the moon, we wouldnt have big industries.
Look, pure capitlaism can never work, its a pipe dream, pure socialism most likely can never work either, the best we can do is have a mixture of both, as the economy becomes less labor based and more information based, and we dont have to work as hard, we'll become more socialist, progression forces socialism because you cant sell something when theres unlimited amounts of it.
Capitalism if it was pure, it could work if it were 100 percent fair capitalism, this means capitalism without globalism, this means forcing companies to raise the minimum wage they pay their workers along with the amount of money the company brings in, meaning dynamic salary which increases when companies do good and decreases when they do bad, equal salary for everyone in the company this means the CEO shouldnt make billions and everyone else thousands unless the CEO actually is working the hardest and has been working there the longest.
Enron and Worldcom situations should not be tolerated at all, a person should go to jail for life and their assets removed from them.
Globalism cannot work in pure Capitalism because Capitalism is all about small businesses not big businesses, big businesses are like governments and we dont need this.
No tax? Theres always going to be a tax because people always have to pool their money together to pay for say military forces or hospitals, however by making paying the tax a choice such as a donation you could still have pure capitalism while increasing freedom.
Because patents and copyright restrict speech.
Post the source code to DCSS? Go to jail.
Transmit a file to a user on P2P? Go to jail.
Freedom of speech is being removed by Capitalism, Greed is destroying the constitution. If you want to claim the USA is all about freedom, and hype the USA up to China and Communist countries, saying USA is the greatest country in the world.
On paper USA is the greatest country in the world, however we dont even follow our own rules! Constitution says freedom of speech rules above capitalism, so why are we allowing capitalism to remove universal rights?
If you are going to have freedom of speech there are no special case senarios, this means no source code can be copyrighted, and everything on the net we should have the right to share and copy freely.
Saying we cant share this, we cant copy that, we cant use certain source code, and we cant even mention how the code works in public, theres no free speech left on the net. I fear there wont be any off the net either after everything is patented.
Intellectual property and copyright law in the digital era = censorship.
The computer is a communications tool which is an extention and enhancement to our ability to communicate and express ourselves, source code is the method of expression, 1s and 0s are the output of this expression.
However current intellectual property law is designed to reduce our abilities to express ourselves via code or even to copy a file.
Copyright and Intellectual property is out of control right now and its slowly removing our freedomm of speech and our right to expression.
Why is it ok to censor people in the name of capitalism, no one but rogue pirates dare step forward and say what we all know is happening.
Freenet, GNU, etc etc, its all about freedom of speech. Alot of people claim "well if you are going to have freedom to be open source you should also have freedom not to be"
However when you arent open source and you support the patent system you support censorship. Its very funny how Americans can jump to complain about China and the evils of Communism, claiming USA is all about freedom, claiming the constitution, but its all bullshit.
USA is about Capitalism right now, not freedom. While we are more free than China, we are only more free than China for now, eventually Capitalism will remove all freedom from us due to our own greed.
Schools just give you certification, you educate yourself with the guidance of teachers, and you get training on your own as well.
Schools just need better tools for teachers, I dont think average teachers can teach a class of 30 kids with only a chalk board.
This is what teachers should learn
Because its an emotional movie. Its also applies to the real world while remaining fantasy.
I'm not one to be interested in emotional movies but I could tolerate Princess Mononoke do to its very high quality.
I dont care if Disney made this movie or not, any movie where Disneys name is anywhere in the credits I will not buy, rent, or support in any fashion whatsoever.
Dont buy or rent this movie. It only helps Disney kill open source.
I think some kids need residential school in highschool, at risk kids who have no families around, who live in bad parts of town who could get shot in front of their house.
But I also think it should be their choice after age 16, if they want to keep going they can, if not they can stop going
Learn C you lazy monkey
maybe not from that probe but theres newer probs which arent as deep in space which have perfect DNA samples.
Actually no I'd expect aliens to be much smarter than that lol.
In 300 years? They could already know about it via technology we cant even comprehend and could be conquering us right now.
They could just hiijack our DNA which we gave to them and come to earth as human, and then because of democracy and their superior intelligence take over the world through technology and politics.
Hell they could destroy us just by coming here and giving us more technology than our governments could handle, like the internet and nano technology!
Radio Signals allows them to know theres something going on at Earth. But they'd have to come here physically to see exactly what we were doing, They'd have to physicially land a ship, get out, snatch a few hundred of us of us from all diffrent races and capture our DNA.
They wouldnt be able to just hiijack our DNA from space, and come to earth looking just like us.