RIAA and MPAA will block anything which allows you to share music, will block you from your ISP if you disagree with their philosophy, will raid your house and throw you in jail for sending music.
Speaking of censorship if anyone is doing the censorship we censor even more than China.
In China theres "piracy" but the Chinese while they know piracy does harm certain american business, they should be learning from our mistakes, what they have done is started moving to Redflag linux instead of microsoft, open source solutions solves the piracy problem, people will stop pirating software when software is open source.
Speaking of censorship, what about censorship on our own turf? Google has been good to us so far and has not gone and censored the search results however, how much longer before the RIAA and MPAA sues google for linking to the wrong links?
I bet its for college schools like harvard
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There is one guy, count him, Keith Packard, working on Xrender exention.
One guy! So of course its taking 2 years just to get anti alaising, yes you can debate and say one guy can build higher quality code in the long run, but the core of Xrender is nearly complete, now we just need ways to interface with it, the only other option is directFB.
So while linux development is fast its selectively fast, its fast in some areas and slow as hell in others.
So even if MS rolled out Longhorn on schedule (which is anyone's guess), Linux has a significant amount of time to improve. Breathing room. Looking back on the last two years, Linux then and now, and looking forward two years -- maybe my expectations are unrealistic, but the prospects are exciting (and, yeah, I know there's a word for people who find IT exciting).
True Linux has time, but we need the IBMs, Redhats and other big guys to support Linux desktop development, in order to get the quality up to the high levels of OSX, you need to spend real cash on this, hey I'd pay but theres no one to pay besides mandrake.
Corperations should pay, IBM should contribute several million dollars to develop Gnome or KDE, Redhat should contribute code or money for development, Suse and all the United Linux people should focus all their efforts on it.
Believe me when the whole community focuses their efforts on one thing yes we dominate, the problem right now is some people want to just focus on the server, Sun wants to focus on Java, unless we all decide the Desktop is vital just like we decided having a GUI was vital, we wont have a high enough quality desktop.
Its going to take a combined effort, and the main thing holding the Desktop back right now is Xfree, wheres Ximian? Why are they so busy focusing on copying.Net when they could be helping develop Xfree?
I admit, Xfree is very very difficult, but if you have enough money you can work with it as soon as Keith Packard writes an API of some sort or documents his code.
Also why are Linux people worried about Microsoft? Our biggest threat is Apple. IF Apple ported to the PC tomorrow there would be no more Linux on the Desktop, it would be over right there.
Not trying to pick you apart because you are right about most of this, except the fact that you believe microsoft is distracted.
My point was, each new generation is an improvement upon the last. Microsoft is currently distracted, what with trying to patch XP into something the DOJ and those pesky 9 remaining states won't stomp all over, which must be done in concert with their secret, ever-vigilant adherence to the Microsoft Prime Directive:
Currently Microsoft is working on Longhorn, from what I hear about long horn its going to improve stability of Windows, Update the Windows GUI to the level of OSX or beyond, and have an object oriented file system.
This is cutting edge stuff, now its not going to be released until 2005, so Microsoft is very serious this time, and they have to be because they are backed into a corner.
My point is, Linux has to catch up to OSX, not tomorrow, but right now, Linux cannot afford to be in last place, yes Linux is improving, but Microsoft sees what Linux is doing and its going to be damn hard to keep ahead of Microsoft unless we take this seriously, if we are going to compete on the desktop we have to totally destroy Windows XP, and at least be competition to OSX, because Linux is after the spot OSX currently has.
Linux is after the #2 unix/linux desktop spot, they have to compete with Apple.
Currently its XP, OSX and then Linux.
The open slot is the slot OSX is currently trying to fill, Linux needs to be the OSX for the PC, until its that its not going to have its own niche market and it needs that to have at least a foundation besides geeks.
I think its going to take more than good fonts, redhat has to beat all the other distros, windows, and OSX.
Beating Windows is easy, beating the other distros is a big challenge, beating OSX is going to be HARD.
Currently Redhat should be able to beat XP, but I think it has to do more than just slightly edge out XP, it has to stomp XP into the ground and bury it, as well as beat OSX.
Linux finally has good fonts, what about alpha channel, what about hardware rendering of the gui?
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no one owns information, its not tangible, its not something you can "own" like you can own a house, or something physical.
There is no way to ever own an idea once it leaves your head and flows into the pool of ideas called mass conciousness.
Post Microsoft source code in the press
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Watch how fast you get censored.
Capitalism comes before freedom of the press.
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ownership of information = censorship.
Lets say you write something I dont like and I censor you? How is this any diffrent than you writing something I own and I censor you that way? Censorship is Censorship
Linux has functionality, all it needs is the quality of say OSX.
Functionality is fine but to beat Windows you have to look professional, nautilus is the most professional looking interface to work with so far, Redhat should fund development of nautilus, bring back Wozniak or whatever his name is who built Nautilus, and finish what they started.
XP lacks in the speed department as in the OS itself is too slow.
XP can be secured by knowledgeable users but its not secure by default, viruses, trojans, hacking through scripts in email, or the browser prevent Xp from being secure enough for the casual user.
Ease of use is the main thing linux needs to improve on, until Linux is as easy to use as OSX its not going to beat Windows.
While Mandrake has a good idea they lack the funding to do what they are trying to do.
Redhat has over 100 million dollars in the bank, more than enough money to launch a desktop OS. All Redhat needs to worry about is marketing, ease of use, and supporting standards, then they should go to governments, schools, libraries, etc in all countries and sell Redhat Linux Desktop Edition.
Redhat should make it as easy to use as OSX, Apple for a long long time survived off of this market alone, this is what Redhat should do.
Redhat only intends to go after the corperate workstation market, while this is fine for the short term, the long term goal should be to sell their Desktop OS in China, South America, Africa and Europe, places where Microsoft has not yet dominated is where Redhat can actually try to become the standard desktop OS.
Sure its good to compete on the business side of things, but dont make the same mistake IBM made with OS2, or that Apple made with MacOS, you have to be flexible enough to battle on both fronts, the business side and the user side, currently Linux looks like it may win over the Business side, but Apple and Microsoft are slowly trying to dominate the user end.
The user market overall is far far bigger than the corperate desktop market and I think redhat should use think both short term and long term, and release a Desktop OS for corperations while also making it easy enough to compete with OSX, this way they can expand their market over in China.
Currently redflag linux a redhat clone is taking over in China, Redhat should be going after that market, the question is how can you profit off of the users? The potential is there, but theres no way to do it? Actually there is.
Make a deal with ISPs to add a $5 a month fee to users bills for the OS, redhat will be responsible for managing their OS, providing updates automatically and transparently etc.
Theres only a few ways redhat can do this and make it a success. Heres what I hope they do. Offer an OS alternative to OSX, charge subcription fee, use this to generate income, and compete with OSX.
Or they can offer a typical Windows clone like lycoris and we wont get anywhere with being just as good as Windows, at least not anywhere besides the corperate desktop because users need a real reason to switch, they dont care about license fees.
I think Redhat has the chance to generate a ton of money if they do this right, making an desktop OS in the style of OSX which is easier to use than windows while offering the same functionality.
Or Redhat will simply be crushed by the likes of lycoris, OSX, and Windows OS.
Unless Redhat pours some serious $$ into this, and brings home some serious $$ from this, this is going to be a complete failure, the only way to bring home alot of money from this is to build a desktop better than every other desktop, and sell it in the USA, Japan, China, South America, Africa, Europe etc, Because the desktop battle has not yet begun in Asia, Africa or Europe, the battle may be over in the USA but theres 3 other continents to war on, and the only Company for linux which looks like it may dominate is lycoris.
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Real capitalism, no public schools, no military, no regulations on businesses at all, nothing at all is free, no free services, no non profits, no police, nothing.
Thats real capitalism, and this has NEVER exsisted. Not even in the 1600s because slavery prevented it then.
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Information doesnt just want to be free, its impossible to own any information released.
Thats why we have freedom of speech, because speech should have no owners, when it does, this creates censorship.
So you can have one or the other.
pick one
RIAA and MPAA will block anything which allows you to share music, will block you from your ISP if you disagree with their philosophy, will raid your house and throw you in jail for sending music.
Speaking of censorship if anyone is doing the censorship we censor even more than China.
In China theres "piracy" but the Chinese while they know piracy does harm certain american business, they should be learning from our mistakes, what they have done is started moving to Redflag linux instead of microsoft, open source solutions solves the piracy problem, people will stop pirating software when software is open source.
Speaking of censorship, what about censorship on our own turf? Google has been good to us so far and has not gone and censored the search results however, how much longer before the RIAA and MPAA sues google for linking to the wrong links?
We need this stuff in highschools
There is one guy, count him, Keith Packard, working on Xrender exention.
.Net when they could be helping develop Xfree?
One guy! So of course its taking 2 years just to get anti alaising, yes you can debate and say one guy can build higher quality code in the long run, but the core of Xrender is nearly complete, now we just need ways to interface with it, the only other option is directFB.
So while linux development is fast its selectively fast, its fast in some areas and slow as hell in others.
So even if MS rolled out Longhorn on schedule (which is anyone's guess), Linux has a significant amount of time to improve. Breathing room. Looking back on the last two years, Linux then and now, and looking forward two years -- maybe my expectations are unrealistic, but the prospects are exciting (and, yeah, I know there's a word for people who find IT exciting).
True Linux has time, but we need the IBMs, Redhats and other big guys to support Linux desktop development, in order to get the quality up to the high levels of OSX, you need to spend real cash on this, hey I'd pay but theres no one to pay besides mandrake.
Corperations should pay, IBM should contribute several million dollars to develop Gnome or KDE, Redhat should contribute code or money for development, Suse and all the United Linux people should focus all their efforts on it.
Believe me when the whole community focuses their efforts on one thing yes we dominate, the problem right now is some people want to just focus on the server, Sun wants to focus on Java, unless we all decide the Desktop is vital just like we decided having a GUI was vital, we wont have a high enough quality desktop.
Its going to take a combined effort, and the main thing holding the Desktop back right now is Xfree, wheres Ximian? Why are they so busy focusing on copying
I admit, Xfree is very very difficult, but if you have enough money you can work with it as soon as Keith Packard writes an API of some sort or documents his code.
Also why are Linux people worried about Microsoft? Our biggest threat is Apple. IF Apple ported to the PC tomorrow there would be no more Linux on the Desktop, it would be over right there.
Not trying to pick you apart because you are right about most of this, except the fact that you believe microsoft is distracted.
My point was, each new generation is an improvement upon the last. Microsoft is currently distracted, what with trying to patch XP into something the DOJ and those pesky 9 remaining states won't stomp all over, which must be done in concert with their secret, ever-vigilant adherence to the Microsoft Prime Directive:
Currently Microsoft is working on Longhorn, from what I hear about long horn its going to improve stability of Windows, Update the Windows GUI to the level of OSX or beyond, and have an object oriented file system.
This is cutting edge stuff, now its not going to be released until 2005, so Microsoft is very serious this time, and they have to be because they are backed into a corner.
My point is, Linux has to catch up to OSX, not tomorrow, but right now, Linux cannot afford to be in last place, yes Linux is improving, but Microsoft sees what Linux is doing and its going to be damn hard to keep ahead of Microsoft unless we take this seriously, if we are going to compete on the desktop we have to totally destroy Windows XP, and at least be competition to OSX, because Linux is after the spot OSX currently has.
Linux is after the #2 unix/linux desktop spot, they have to compete with Apple.
Currently its XP, OSX and then Linux.
The open slot is the slot OSX is currently trying to fill, Linux needs to be the OSX for the PC, until its that its not going to have its own niche market and it needs that to have at least a foundation besides geeks.
I think its going to take more than good fonts, redhat has to beat all the other distros, windows, and OSX.
Beating Windows is easy, beating the other distros is a big challenge, beating OSX is going to be HARD.
Currently Redhat should be able to beat XP, but I think it has to do more than just slightly edge out XP, it has to stomp XP into the ground and bury it, as well as beat OSX.
Linux finally has good fonts, what about alpha channel, what about hardware rendering of the gui?
no one owns information, its not tangible, its not something you can "own" like you can own a house, or something physical.
There is no way to ever own an idea once it leaves your head and flows into the pool of ideas called mass conciousness.
Watch how fast you get censored.
Capitalism comes before freedom of the press.
ownership of information = censorship.
Lets say you write something I dont like and I censor you? How is this any diffrent than you writing something I own and I censor you that way? Censorship is Censorship
5 Employees? Well 5 former Microsoft Employees, obviously these guys seem to know what they are doing
Yeah it might be easy, but easier than lycoris? prove it.
Redhat null sounds alright but no ones shown any pictures or anything, Ill wait till i see it.
I think Redhat 8.2 will be the Redhat Desktop linux thats mature enough for end users, this might be a year away.
Hopefully by KDE4 - Gnome 3, they'll have alpha channel and genie effect so they can compete with OSX in terms of quality.
Lastly I hope they figure out a universal way to install programs
OSX isnt for the PC else it would be dominating.
Funny the Ibook is the best selling laptop.
Your theory doesnt hold weight.
Dreamcast had far more market share than PS2, everyone still switched to PS2.
Apple had far more market share than Microsoft, everyone still switched to Microsoft.
Redhat is easier to use and just as stable
Why use debian?
Redhat is better than Debian, its open source, its cheaper than Microsoft, its better than Debian.
You know C, C++ etc, you are a developer, compile the code yourself.
make && make install
Yes and was formerly known as redmond linux,
I'm sure they have alot of former Microsoft programmers from the look of their OS.
Windows programmers have absolutely no loyalty to Microsoft at all.
Only Game programmers have loyalty to Microsoft and thats because they dont have much choice.
Show a Windows programmer how much easier it is to write code for linux and see how fast they switch
Linux has functionality, all it needs is the quality of say OSX.
Functionality is fine but to beat Windows you have to look professional, nautilus is the most professional looking interface to work with so far, Redhat should fund development of nautilus, bring back Wozniak or whatever his name is who built Nautilus, and finish what they started.
However I'd say win2k is more stable than XP.
XP lacks in the speed department as in the OS itself is too slow.
XP can be secured by knowledgeable users but its not secure by default, viruses, trojans, hacking through scripts in email, or the browser prevent Xp from being secure enough for the casual user.
Ease of use is the main thing linux needs to improve on, until Linux is as easy to use as OSX its not going to beat Windows.
Being just as easy as Windows is not good enough.
While Mandrake has a good idea they lack the funding to do what they are trying to do.
Redhat has over 100 million dollars in the bank, more than enough money to launch a desktop OS. All Redhat needs to worry about is marketing, ease of use, and supporting standards, then they should go to governments, schools, libraries, etc in all countries and sell Redhat Linux Desktop Edition.
Redhat should make it as easy to use as OSX, Apple for a long long time survived off of this market alone, this is what Redhat should do.
Redhat only intends to go after the corperate workstation market, while this is fine for the short term, the long term goal should be to sell their Desktop OS in China, South America, Africa and Europe, places where Microsoft has not yet dominated is where Redhat can actually try to become the standard desktop OS.
Sure its good to compete on the business side of things, but dont make the same mistake IBM made with OS2, or that Apple made with MacOS, you have to be flexible enough to battle on both fronts, the business side and the user side, currently Linux looks like it may win over the Business side, but Apple and Microsoft are slowly trying to dominate the user end.
The user market overall is far far bigger than the corperate desktop market and I think redhat should use think both short term and long term, and release a Desktop OS for corperations while also making it easy enough to compete with OSX, this way they can expand their market over in China.
Currently redflag linux a redhat clone is taking over in China, Redhat should be going after that market, the question is how can you profit off of the users? The potential is there, but theres no way to do it? Actually there is.
Make a deal with ISPs to add a $5 a month fee to users bills for the OS, redhat will be responsible for managing their OS, providing updates automatically and transparently etc.
Theres only a few ways redhat can do this and make it a success. Heres what I hope they do. Offer an OS alternative to OSX, charge subcription fee, use this to generate income, and compete with OSX.
Or they can offer a typical Windows clone like lycoris and we wont get anywhere with being just as good as Windows, at least not anywhere besides the corperate desktop because users need a real reason to switch, they dont care about license fees.
I think Redhat has the chance to generate a ton of money if they do this right, making an desktop OS in the style of OSX which is easier to use than windows while offering the same functionality.
Or Redhat will simply be crushed by the likes of lycoris, OSX, and Windows OS.
Unless Redhat pours some serious $$ into this, and brings home some serious $$ from this, this is going to be a complete failure, the only way to bring home alot of money from this is to build a desktop better than every other desktop, and sell it in the USA, Japan, China, South America, Africa, Europe etc, Because the desktop battle has not yet begun in Asia, Africa or Europe, the battle may be over in the USA but theres 3 other continents to war on, and the only Company for linux which looks like it may dominate is lycoris.
Real capitalism, no public schools, no military, no regulations on businesses at all, nothing at all is free, no free services, no non profits, no police, nothing.
Thats real capitalism, and this has NEVER exsisted. Not even in the 1600s because slavery prevented it then.