It was however outside of UK territorial waters at the time it was claimed. And as such was not under UK law. The UK extender their territorial waters around it when it was claimed.
You make it sound like the UK increased the extent of its sea claims in response to the Bateses. Like many other countries during that period, the UK enlarged its territorial waters around the whole of its coastline.
Define "success". The guys who instigated the lawsuit have had their shares go up by an order of magnitude. They don't need to win, or even have any chance of winning; they just need to make their adversaries believe that they would suffer intolerable damage in a fight. It's oddly similar to the North Korea situation. Unfortunately for both megalomanaics, neither IBM nor the US is biting.
I'd say the SCO execs have already won. They have successfully managed to steal millions of dollars from the people who bought SCO stock on news of the IBM lawsuit, which is all they wanted. Now sit back and watch as they sever their ties with SCO one by one and retire to the French Riviera to enjoy their spoils.
I have a system that would completely eliminate spam. It would not be based on filtering, would not cause any false positives, and would prevent 99% of what you think of as spam.
"What you think of spam"??? Why am I reminded of a B-movie alien who announces to a startled earthling: "We have been monitoring your so-called 'television' transmissions for ten of your Earth years"?
My wife works nicely for that. Very nicely in fact since she reminds me about the mortgage, groceries, etc. Her Work for Sex exchange program is an excellent motivator too.
Does she have a web site, or how would we go about signing up for this program?
For some reason, i get hte most amount of work done when I have the least amount of internet connection.
I find that in those situations, I end up spending all my time scheming to get more internet access (jury-rigging WiFi antennas to point out my hotel window at random office buildings, etc.).
So the question for you, before you decide to do anything, is, is this seriously fucking my life up? If it is, by all means, see a crank brain doctor, start exercising or joining study groups or unplug your net access, or whatever. But if not, just accept that you have a different, but equally effective, way of doing work, and don't let popular opinions on study skills make you feel like you are inadequate. Because the fact is, there are people out there spending 4 or 5 times as much time as you are on their assignments, and planning and micromanaging their lives in minute detail, who have not been able to get as far as you can, and they are not better than you just because they can act more organised.
I think that's a good, balanced perspective.
However, it brings something else to mind. What if the frustration comes from realizing the potential for even greater achievement that appears to be squandered?
If you can get all your work done well with an hour a day and occasional bursts at deadline time, just imagine what you could do if you spent 8 hours a day hard at work! You'd walk away with 8 degrees! You'd have your PhD by the time you were 20! You'd cure cancer!
Or is it that certain types of brains work in rigidly structured environments and other brains just require random scattered intellectual stimuli in order to get the job done? Maybe the maximum achievement potential is the same for the 1-hour and the 8-hour person, except that the 1-hour person's brain is working in some sort of "background" mode?
You have basically argued that children do not have property rights, and this is exactly why America has the juvenile disciplinary problems we have today.
No, I'm arguing that children are not adults. As to whether they have property rights, well, the law is all over the map on that. In general their parents exercise the rights.
If we started punishing these thieves as thieves, instead of "kids", at an early age, they will learn right quick to stop, or they'll be Darwinized.
Get some perspective. It's a videotape stolen out of another kid's locker for a prank. They were not violent (rather, it was a fairly innovative high-tech prank), and there is no evidence they have made a habit of it.
I say we need more crackdowns. Lock those schools down, hard. We'll send YOUR kids to the "boys will be boys" school districts, and when your kid winds up pummeled to death by boys who are being boys, don't come crying to me.
My kids will grow up in a school that concentrates hard on personal safety and property rights, instead of coddling the thieves and thugs that contribute to America having the highest crime rate in the industrialized world.
Sorry dude, no chance my kids are growing up here. The US is an interesting place to work but the zero-tolerance attitudes have created one of the most violent societies on earth, and I would never involuntarily subject my loved ones to that - when they're old enough, they can make the choice on their own if they want. Where I come from, tolerance is the watchword, and the violent crime rate it is a tiny fraction of what it is here.
Stealing a $5 tape from a store = shoplifting Stealing a $5 tape from a kid = ?
First of all, as I have explained several times, the core issue here is not that the victim is a store vs a kid, but that the perpetrators are kids vs adults.
Anyway, that aside, there is a difference between kids stealing things from each other and kids stealing things from stores, yes. Kids steal things from each other all the time. It's part of socialization and growing up and learning boundaries. Is it to be encouraged? No. Should they be disciplined? Yes. But should they be prosecuted, when the thing stolen is worth $5? No.
I recognize that, and more importantly, society recognizes that. You don't recognize that. But that's okay; you're not the D.A.
You either have property rights, or you don't. Does anyone have an argument against that?
Nobody's trying that hard to argue against that, because it's moot.
a) Was this tape not his property?
Yes. I mean no. I mean yes. Whose property? There are two "hims" involved. And why the double-negative?
b) Was it not taken without his consent?
The property was taken without the owner's consent, as far as we know. Nobody is arguing against this.
c) What is the definition of taking something from someone without their consent?
Depends on the circumstance.
I really HATE people like you who deny the facts until your face turns blue. You're more obtuse than the Creationists!
Don't be so dramatic. Consider the possibility that either you're not making your point very well (witness (a) above) or you're failing to grasp your interlocutor's point. A worldview based on your own intellectual infallibility is going to lead you to a lot of frustration when you grow up.
Weak. You know full well that if you were to steal a video tape from a store, you'd have to answer to the cops.
Probably. However, I was never arguing that. I was talking about the case of some little kids who stole something valued under $5 from another kid. You keep trying to maneuver it to some other random softball hypothetical that isn't analogous to what actually happened, and in a moment of weakness I indulged you.
So you can go on arguing that the sky is blue, or that the sun is hot, or that 2+2=4, or whatever you like. Feel free to award yourself as many points as you feel you deserve; I'll sign off on it.
Okay, I dare you to put your theory to the test. Go to Wal Mart and slip one blank videotape into your coat and walk out, and see if they look at it as "no consequence".
It's a deal. I'll do it as soon as you invent a magic time-reversal ray gun that makes me 14 again.
They stole his video. That's theft, my man. Do you believe theft should be illegal or not?
Sure, it's theft, but that's of no consequence. The "thieves" were what, 14? No chance they'd be prosecuted. Plus the value of a videotape is about $5.
Websters is out of touch with the vernacular, or is using a US-specific definition that is entirely different from how the word is used by the rest of the world.
Are you people out of your minds? Backpacking is ALL ABOUT hiking through the wilderness. That's why there's a place in your pack for a tent and sleeping bag.
Sorry, that's hiking/tramping.
Backpacking is traveling to foreign countries with your luggage on your back, staying in hostels or other budget accomodation, arguing with taxi drivers over 5-cent differences in the fare, and failing to shower for months on end. Technically it also probably requires visits to Kathmandu, Kuta, and Khao San Road.
While you're in DC, go to the basement of the American History museum.
Also of geekly interest in/around DC are the Spy Museum (easy to get to; a couple blocks from the Metro) and the NSA museum (annoying to get to; about a 2-hour bicycle ride from downtown DC or half an hour from Greenbelt Metro).
The FBI tour is a total waste of time. The Bureau of Engraving & Printing (where they make the paper money) was a bit interesting (though a poor ratio of standing in queues to actually seeing stuff) but I believe the tours have been suspended. The Newseum was good but it's now closed until 2006.
If they are using features that only IE supports, it is an outright security issue to allow other browsers into the site. The classic example is the "Enabled" property. If they use this in even one location in their web app, the have to restrict it to IE only, because the button shows up as Enabled no matter what in any other browser. If other browsers don't disable the function properly, who knows what pages they could get to outside of the designated process flow?
Congratulations, you win the dumb comment of the day award.
There is zero security benefit to taking a browser's word for what program it claims to be. Heck, there are browsers with a menu that lets any doofus user choose specifically which browser to tell web servers you're using.
I sure hope you don't do any actual web development, because your clients are being seriously ripped off.
I don't get that. Isn't the point that cell phones could interfere with the sensitive medical equipment? So they broadcast a much more powerful signal to disrupt cell phones? That doesn't make any sense and nullifies the original intent.
The device may be a comparatively weak transmitter that tells all cellphones "I am a cellphone tower but I am not going to connect any calls, nyah nyah", in which case phones won't work but high-energy airwave saturation is not required.
If I could carry one of those on my person I'd be a very happy man.
Quite well. IMHO, comparable to magazine cover quality on plain paper. Their one drawback is they really don't do bigger than 8.5x11 (at least the 850's I have access to don't). I have a client with one and a hp5500dn (roughly $3500 street price) and I printed out the same picture on that and a tektronic 850. While the fine lines printed better on the HP, most people I asked preferred the color output of the tektronic.
Most monkeys would prefer a shiny quarter over a dull, boring $100 bill, too, and for much the same reason.
The output from the solid-ink Teks is saturated and shiny. This may make it look more exciting or vivid to the casual viewer who doesn't have to use it for anything exacting.
However, the printer's inability to accurately reproduce color, its poor color range, and its coarse dither leave it nowhere near magazine cover quality (come on, just consider the screen) unless you're talking about Parade. Fact is, there is a huge range of images the printer just can't print. And this is not an esoteric range.
I've never used the 5500, but the HP8550 (okay, that's an expensive printer) kicks the 850's output's ass twelve ways to Sunday.
Well, if he were really looking for a "hardcore printer", as you put it, he would've checked out Tektronix. We have one at the office (model 850) and it's been printing volumes for a while. Very reliable, nice quality, works without a hinch with Linux, PostScript and all. Even supplies seem to be reasonably priced (considering how long they last).
And the coolest thing about it is that it uses ink sticks! You just feed them into the printer, so there is no catrige to replace, no scam with expiring catriges, no ink wasted. As it uses up a certain color, you add more sticks of that color. That's all.
There are some serious drawbacks with this printer.
(1) It can't print gray except at the lowest quality setting. At any reasonable (i.e., non-fax-looking) setting the gray comes out seriously brown.
(2) The ink ain't cheap.
(3) The ink rubs off under moderate pressure. Worse yet, it you print out a bunch of pages and leave them stacked up for a few weeks, they stick together and when you separate them, ink sticks to the backs of the other pages.
(4) Its RGB->CMYK conversion is atrocious, resulting in washed-out colors.
(5) The dither is far coarser than you'd get with a comparably-priced color laser. This means you can't do good gradients unless they're quite dark from start to finish. And photos with light areas look dotty.
(6) Its PMS matching is totally useless. The colors aren't even vaguely similar.
If they ever become available in my price range, I want one at home!
If you come pick it up, I'd just about give you ours. We spend a lot of money on color laser prints at Kinkos because of all the 850's output-quality problems. It's useless for serious proofs.
The main reason I prefer to fly between New York and DC rather than taking the train (total price and travel time are roughly equivalent) is that cell phones are not allowed on the plane.
There is sometimes a quiet car (no cell phones allowed) on Amtrak but not on all trains and enforcement is spotty.
If there were no similar provision on the plane then I'd probably just start driving it.
I cannot think of a greater annoyance than having to listen to half of other people's inane conversations screamed from every direction. It makes it impossible to think.
Any source of cheap, unlimited and free energy would be the end of man. Any source of unlimited energy can likely be scaled to the point where it becomes a tremendously devasating weapon, or is used to produce WMD inexpensively. Anyone naieve enough to think that this wouldn't happen in kidding themselves.
At the same time, boundless energy would give people the means to flee their adversaries, or at least separate from each other to sufficient distance that they're no longer getting on each others' nerves. All evens out.
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You make it sound like the UK increased the extent of its sea claims in response to the Bateses. Like many other countries during that period, the UK enlarged its territorial waters around the whole of its coastline.
I'd say the SCO execs have already won. They have successfully managed to steal millions of dollars from the people who bought SCO stock on news of the IBM lawsuit, which is all they wanted. Now sit back and watch as they sever their ties with SCO one by one and retire to the French Riviera to enjoy their spoils.
"What you think of spam"??? Why am I reminded of a B-movie alien who announces to a startled earthling: "We have been monitoring your so-called 'television' transmissions for ten of your Earth years"?
About the same time they start exporting Manhattan real estate from Iraq.
Are you not aware of what you are purchasing when you buy bandwidth?
Does she have a web site, or how would we go about signing up for this program?
I find that in those situations, I end up spending all my time scheming to get more internet access (jury-rigging WiFi antennas to point out my hotel window at random office buildings, etc.).
I think that's a good, balanced perspective.
However, it brings something else to mind. What if the frustration comes from realizing the potential for even greater achievement that appears to be squandered?
If you can get all your work done well with an hour a day and occasional bursts at deadline time, just imagine what you could do if you spent 8 hours a day hard at work! You'd walk away with 8 degrees! You'd have your PhD by the time you were 20! You'd cure cancer!
Or is it that certain types of brains work in rigidly structured environments and other brains just require random scattered intellectual stimuli in order to get the job done? Maybe the maximum achievement potential is the same for the 1-hour and the 8-hour person, except that the 1-hour person's brain is working in some sort of "background" mode?
No, I'm arguing that children are not adults. As to whether they have property rights, well, the law is all over the map on that. In general their parents exercise the rights.
Get some perspective. It's a videotape stolen out of another kid's locker for a prank. They were not violent (rather, it was a fairly innovative high-tech prank), and there is no evidence they have made a habit of it.
Sorry dude, no chance my kids are growing up here. The US is an interesting place to work but the zero-tolerance attitudes have created one of the most violent societies on earth, and I would never involuntarily subject my loved ones to that - when they're old enough, they can make the choice on their own if they want. Where I come from, tolerance is the watchword, and the violent crime rate it is a tiny fraction of what it is here.
First of all, as I have explained several times, the core issue here is not that the victim is a store vs a kid, but that the perpetrators are kids vs adults.
Anyway, that aside, there is a difference between kids stealing things from each other and kids stealing things from stores, yes. Kids steal things from each other all the time. It's part of socialization and growing up and learning boundaries. Is it to be encouraged? No. Should they be disciplined? Yes. But should they be prosecuted, when the thing stolen is worth $5? No.
I recognize that, and more importantly, society recognizes that. You don't recognize that. But that's okay; you're not the D.A.
Nobody's trying that hard to argue against that, because it's moot.
Yes. I mean no. I mean yes. Whose property? There are two "hims" involved. And why the double-negative?
The property was taken without the owner's consent, as far as we know. Nobody is arguing against this.
Depends on the circumstance.
Don't be so dramatic. Consider the possibility that either you're not making your point very well (witness (a) above) or you're failing to grasp your interlocutor's point. A worldview based on your own intellectual infallibility is going to lead you to a lot of frustration when you grow up.
Probably. However, I was never arguing that. I was talking about the case of some little kids who stole something valued under $5 from another kid. You keep trying to maneuver it to some other random softball hypothetical that isn't analogous to what actually happened, and in a moment of weakness I indulged you.
So you can go on arguing that the sky is blue, or that the sun is hot, or that 2+2=4, or whatever you like. Feel free to award yourself as many points as you feel you deserve; I'll sign off on it.
It's a deal. I'll do it as soon as you invent a magic time-reversal ray gun that makes me 14 again.
That's right, unless he makes a habit of it.
It is: Unless they make a habit of it, it's of no consequence.
Look, I don't think adults (or even kids) should go around stealing things. But thankfully the system has at least a modicum of perspective on this.
They don't get to send people to prison for copying an MP3. And they won't succeed in collecting damages from any 14-year-olds.
There is no 330 Connecticut Ave here in DC.
Sure, it's theft, but that's of no consequence. The "thieves" were what, 14? No chance they'd be prosecuted. Plus the value of a videotape is about $5.
Websters is out of touch with the vernacular, or is using a US-specific definition that is entirely different from how the word is used by the rest of the world.
Sorry, that's hiking/tramping.
Backpacking is traveling to foreign countries with your luggage on your back, staying in hostels or other budget accomodation, arguing with taxi drivers over 5-cent differences in the fare, and failing to shower for months on end. Technically it also probably requires visits to Kathmandu, Kuta, and Khao San Road.
Also of geekly interest in/around DC are the Spy Museum (easy to get to; a couple blocks from the Metro) and the NSA museum (annoying to get to; about a 2-hour bicycle ride from downtown DC or half an hour from Greenbelt Metro).
The FBI tour is a total waste of time. The Bureau of Engraving & Printing (where they make the paper money) was a bit interesting (though a poor ratio of standing in queues to actually seeing stuff) but I believe the tours have been suspended. The Newseum was good but it's now closed until 2006.
Congratulations, you win the dumb comment of the day award.
There is zero security benefit to taking a browser's word for what program it claims to be. Heck, there are browsers with a menu that lets any doofus user choose specifically which browser to tell web servers you're using.
I sure hope you don't do any actual web development, because your clients are being seriously ripped off.
The device may be a comparatively weak transmitter that tells all cellphones "I am a cellphone tower but I am not going to connect any calls, nyah nyah", in which case phones won't work but high-energy airwave saturation is not required.
If I could carry one of those on my person I'd be a very happy man.
Sorry, I was sort of kidding there... I don't think I could get away with that. But you can get a free one at www.freecolorprinter[s].com.
If you don't spend their secret Priceline minimum required amount on ink sticks, you have to pay a $75/month fee.
For that money you can get a business lease on an HP4500, which is a far better printer.
Most monkeys would prefer a shiny quarter over a dull, boring $100 bill, too, and for much the same reason.
The output from the solid-ink Teks is saturated and shiny. This may make it look more exciting or vivid to the casual viewer who doesn't have to use it for anything exacting.
However, the printer's inability to accurately reproduce color, its poor color range, and its coarse dither leave it nowhere near magazine cover quality (come on, just consider the screen) unless you're talking about Parade. Fact is, there is a huge range of images the printer just can't print. And this is not an esoteric range.
I've never used the 5500, but the HP8550 (okay, that's an expensive printer) kicks the 850's output's ass twelve ways to Sunday.
There are some serious drawbacks with this printer.
(1) It can't print gray except at the lowest quality setting. At any reasonable (i.e., non-fax-looking) setting the gray comes out seriously brown.
(2) The ink ain't cheap.
(3) The ink rubs off under moderate pressure. Worse yet, it you print out a bunch of pages and leave them stacked up for a few weeks, they stick together and when you separate them, ink sticks to the backs of the other pages.
(4) Its RGB->CMYK conversion is atrocious, resulting in washed-out colors.
(5) The dither is far coarser than you'd get with a comparably-priced color laser. This means you can't do good gradients unless they're quite dark from start to finish. And photos with light areas look dotty.
(6) Its PMS matching is totally useless. The colors aren't even vaguely similar.
If you come pick it up, I'd just about give you ours. We spend a lot of money on color laser prints at Kinkos because of all the 850's output-quality problems. It's useless for serious proofs.
My thoughts exactly.
The main reason I prefer to fly between New York and DC rather than taking the train (total price and travel time are roughly equivalent) is that cell phones are not allowed on the plane.
There is sometimes a quiet car (no cell phones allowed) on Amtrak but not on all trains and enforcement is spotty.
If there were no similar provision on the plane then I'd probably just start driving it.
I cannot think of a greater annoyance than having to listen to half of other people's inane conversations screamed from every direction. It makes it impossible to think.
At the same time, boundless energy would give people the means to flee their adversaries, or at least separate from each other to sufficient distance that they're no longer getting on each others' nerves. All evens out.