Exactly. When I read this press release, it smacks of being written by somebody who doesn't understand the first thing about batteries... OR by somebody who understands a great deal about them but is trying to generate interest from venture capitalists by saying meaningless things that sound good to those who don't understand.
I don't think this is a violation of anybody's rights. All the order does is put individual folks on the "do not trade with" list with all sorts of other unsavory actors like known terrorists, drug and human traffickers, arms dealers and folks who are known to trade with the same. It is roughly the same as the "Do Not Fly" list, only it's maintained by the Department of Commerce, not the TSA. So you get on this list and US companies are barred from selling or buying stuff from you. This is not a new list, it's been law for decades, the only thing that's changed is we are adding another reason to put folks on this list.
If you are a foreign citizen on US soil you get your first amendment rights like anybody else, except that you cannot donate to political campaigns of course or vote. So, foreigners do NOT get all the same rights as US citizens, though we recognize your natural rights to free speech, assembly, self defense and such. So free speech is not abridged by putting your name on this list, only your ability to do business with US companies and individuals is impacted.
This list is not new, we are just adding a reason to put folks on it. This list has not been successfully challenged on constitutional grounds (or unsuccessfully as far as I know), so your assertion that it violates the first amendment is without much basis.
This should really include political contributions from the like of Halliburton et al.
Already done... If you are a foreign company, you cannot contribute to PAC's, parties or political campaigns given current campaign finance law. At least that's what I understand. For instance, the NRA (a 501c3 nonprofit) can accept foreign donations, but they cannot then turn around and give that money to a political organization, PAC or campaign. Direct Foreign money is simply illegal in political campaigns. Doesn't mean it never happens, only that the FEC will likely deal with such stuff severely when they find it.
Now there is little the USA can do about non-money based activities abroad designed to impact our elections anyway. We can fuss and fume, but in reality we cannot stop it short of going 100% isolationist (cutting off all trade, travel and communications), which would be about as stupid as it could get.
...I'm sure all of Trump's detractors will agree that he has done the right thing and it's about time.
Won't they?
When it comes to Trump you get all the consistency of a magic 8 ball. If somebody shakes the old fart between now and the election we will get a totally different reaction to any election meddling from what he's rambling about now. In the absence of any consistency in this White House I'll believe he's willing to slap sanctions on Russia it when I see him do it.
Are you looking at what he does then?
Didn't he sign the bill that increased the sanctions on Russia that passed though Congress early in his term? I believe he did on 8/2/17. Now I hear lots of folks say that this was because he didn't have a choice given the margins it passed Congress with, but he signed it. See H.R.3364 on Tomas.gov for details.
So, if you *hack* something over the internet to try and influence the election AND you are a foreign national or company, we will add you to the naughty list and not let you do business with the USA?
Um... I'm just curious how this is going to help anything... It's not like you can stop foreign meddling. They still can attempt to lie to Facebook and buy "issue ads" or engage in troll farm activities from home. The only difference now is that IF we catch you AND we can identify who you are you get put on the naughty list for US trade. I'm sure the Troll farmers are crying over their vodka as they close up shop, saying "it's just too risky now, I got to stop as I'm so dependent on my business partners in the USA for everything!"
Doesn't anybody understand that our laws don't have any teeth overseas? We can (and should) threaten to do these things, but this is about as much as we can do. Short of going to war, putting folks on the naughty list is the absolute limit for the Federal government's ability.
The TRUE fix for this is to educate and actually have the US voters to engage in a bit of critical thinking when given the truth. It may seem far fetched, but I think the US voters are actually pretty good at this, when properly and truthfully informed. The problem is, partisan opinion and fantasy positions have taken over the world of politics and the quest for votes has transcended the need to be truthful with the voters; Truthful about yourself, your opponent and about what the real problems are. It's win at any price, say anything you need to win and clean up the mess after you are elected if necessary, the truth no longer matters, only winning the election. After all, everybody will forget the whole sordid affair in about 2 weeks as long as you don't get charged with a crime, and lying in a stump speech is not a crime.
...I'm sure all of Trump's detractors will agree that he has done the right thing and it's about time.
Won't they?
I guess hope springs eternal in that regard. Irrational behavior doesn't usually change. Just like there are those who wouldn't care if he shot someone dead on a public street (his example, not mine) there are those who'd complain if he single handedly cured cancer and poverty world wide.
So my guess is this action will 1. not be covered by his detractors in the media who will ignore it and 2. when covered. will be derided for various reasons (ineffective, to late, etc.). The end result will be that he will get no credit for his efforts, despite the fact that this is about all he can conceivably do with the bounds of his constitutional powers.
Really, the issue needs to be addressed by Congress, but they have a lower overall approval rating than the president... A rating that I believe is well earned.
Perfecting Keyless entry is not a matter of time, it's a matter of wanting to do it right. The technology already exists to do this job securely, the manufacturers just need to use it.
Personally, if I was doing this, I'd have a keyfob that had a time based code rotation. Where the fob would transmit a constantly changing encrypted sequence of codes but only when it is receiving a specific car's beacon, which is itself a time based encrypted string. If you keep the car's transmit range low, the keyfob won't be transmitting unless it is with visual range of the car. Keyfob transmissions would also be time division multiplexed with the cars in a random looking pattern and frequency hopping driven by encryption. This would make the hacker's most common methods of getting around such systems much more difficult.
Spoofing the keyfob by just parroting what it transmits wouldn't work anymore. It would be very difficult to capture enough car/keyfob conversations to break the encryption keys. The only possible way to hack this would to be a bi-directional RF amplifier setup, which would be much more difficult to do if the hackers didn't know the random frequency hoping and time division sequencing.
Most people don't know just how big Texas is.. Maybe I can help..
You could drive more than 8 hours on interstate highways and barely be able to cross Texas either north and south, or East and west. And our speed limits range up to 75 mph in places.
Two of the top ten most populated metropolitan are in Texas. Dallas-Ft Worth is #5 and Huston is #6. Don't forget San Antonio is there too (like #35 of 50).
The GDP of Texas would be #11 in the world if it was a country of it's own.
It's the second largest state (only Alaska is bigger) and it's the second in population (behind only California).
Think of the political narrative these days... Which party wants to bad mouth the economy and which wants to sing it's praises? Which story is being covered in the press?
My uncle was a computer scientist for a National Lab. He retired 15 or so years ago. I remember just after my grandmother first got internet, he didn't have it at his home yet because he didn't believe it was safe -this was probably 1997 or 98, and I remember him talking to me about how disappointed he was with the internet. "It was supposed to be this great thing. It's useless. It'll never amount to anything."
Yeah, he was wrong.
Was he? Was he really?
How much of the internet is truly useful and how much is just trash? Judging by my inbox, the number of E-mail in my inbox the ratio 1s more than 10 to 1 SPAM to worth while messages (And that's AFTER the SPAM filters.)
I find that this ratio pretty much governs the whole of the internet.. Where 1/10th of it is actually something of use and the rest is just useless junk.
You still do not physically test N+1 solutions which are in operation. Even if it's fictional N+1 redundancy because of some configuration error, it's better to stay running than risk breaking your SLA's.
Now, that doesn't mean you don't fully test and vet your N+1 solution prior to putting it into service and then regularly by physical inspection and on paper. You can even test portions of your system which are not in service or part of the +1 redundancy, but you don't risk disrupting operational systems with silly redundancy tests, not when you have SLA's to keep.
There will be enough natural failures to make keeping your SLA's hard enough, you don't need to add risk by doing redundancy testing. You need to regularly fail over the whole system, verify your backups actually work and stuff like that, but you don't go into the server room and flip random breakers off just to make sure everything keeps running..
The majors can out spend them and out design and build them in short order. Tesla needs more production cost reductions or some kind of differentiator that can translate in to profits. Wiz Bang features are nice, but expensive.
The problem for Tesla is the majors can afford to pound them if there is money to be made in Tesla's market. So if Tesla makes too much, they are going to get attacked, if they don't make enough, they will wither and die. The range for success is very narrow.
I never said they where doomed, only that they where out of time and room for error. Everything must go right for them now. No more mistakes or missteps can be made.
Promises have been made in the past which have not been kept. Tesla needs to start keeping promises, the factory simply has to start turning out cars at a profit. So far, standing up the factory has been taking longer and costing more than expected with production well under target. But getting production on track will NOT be enough to ensure their success.
Tesla is now starting to face competition in their luxury market space from the Majors. If they prove there is money to be made there, you can bet the majors will jump into the space. I hear that Tesla's has little room to lower prices, because their build costs are high, so the majors can sink them on cost to price if they want to. If there is money to be made, you can bet they will try to sink Tesla and Tesla will be powerless to resist. If that happens, bankruptcy and selling off parts of the company will be forced. If there isn't enough money in the space to interest the majors, Tesla will face starvation if they are too big to be sustained by the cars they can sell.
So, Tesla may make it, but the odds are stacked to make this unlikely. The road to success is very narrow now. There are a million ways they fail, and only a handful where they succeed.
IF they fail, the majors will just buy up the technology from the creditors for pennies on the dollar.
Good point. However, receive and transmit antennae are normally separate anyway. You use a multi-element receive antenna, but a single element transmit antenna. If you can replace all of your multi-element receive antennae with a single, smaller one, that's still a big win in terms of tower real-estate.
Actually... This is not true. The same antenna is used for receive and transmit all the time. You have both full duplex (RX and TX at the same time) and half Duplex applications that do this.
Your local cell tower and cell phone is a perfect example of this. My local Ham radio repeater does full duplex every time it's keyed.
Tesla will likely end up on the ash heap of history with Delorian. But there is a chance they make it on their own, a very slim chance. But the odds where always stacked this way for Tesla. My guess is that they won't make it, but it's going to be fun to watch them try. It won't all be a waste, Tesla has advanced the state of the art in ways the majors couldn't and I'm going to bet that whomever snaps them up as they die will get a treasure trove of new things.
My guess is Tesla gets purchased by one of the majors, or hits bankruptcy and pieces get purchased by many of the majors. In the end, Tesla will have advanced the state of the art greatly, and the brand name will live on, but the company will not exist anymore. But that's how the odds where stacked when this whole idea got started.
BUT.. Keeping it N+1 as maintenance and improvements get done is *really* hard.
Not really. You just periodically do disaster tests. Shut down one of the 'N' periodically, and if infra that isn't supposed to go down does, turn it back on quickly, then do a post-mortem to figure out what screw-up needs to be fixed, and fix it.
Sounds great, again in theory... Taking down 1 is to temporally do away with your redundancy (if it exists) and risks causing an actual outage if it doesn't. If you have SLA's to keep, you are not going to willingly perform such tests except in rather unique situations. You never willingly give up your +1.
The way you maintain N+1 is by first intensive design reviews of installation plans that include comprehensive wire labeling and inspection of same. Strict engineering controls for existing modifications and maintenance activities including software versions and configurations and extensive testing on representative hardware, software and configurations before fielding. Also, if you truly have strict SLA's with your customers, you have N+1 sites, not just systems, and a failure recovery plan that moves customer's services to another location.
If you are going to do any kind of testing for N+1, it's site to site. Or you will first set up N+2, move your customers off the system under test and THEN test in ways which cannot break things for your customers. In short, you NEVER test N+1 systems which are in production use.
Tesla failed to meet production goals again. And musk will soon be getting ass raped in prison for securities fraud.
It was the Ambien and the SEC doesn't send you to the maximum security part of the system where such things happen. Especially in this case. Musk broke the rules by talking when he should have kept quiet. If he didn't tip somebody to what he was going to say and didn't make a personal profit on this, the SEC isn't going to toss him in the pokey. He was just shooting off his mouth in public, about stuff he should have kept quiet about, you don't go to jail for that. They may fine Tesla and/or Musk for his stupid talking out of turn and not though official channels, but I don't think they will go past that.
Unless he tried to lie to the SEC about it or cover it up, he's going to get a fine at most.
Mercedes isn't the paragon of virtue quality wise. They have their own quality issues. My brother is a Mercedes dealer mechanic (among the top 10% in the nation) and he told me that there are a number of models he'd never recommend anybody buy. Their SUV initially had some serious quality issues with the electronics packages and once they fall out of warranty, few folks keep them due to their huge maintenance costs, so they get junked pretty quick.
But you do make a valid point. Tesla needs to get that factory working and stop messing around. They don't have time to mess with any new features, but need to start pushing out cars at a profit. They have to make good and start recouping their investors' money.
Long term, Tesla will face a serious issue with their build costs. That's where the majors will clean their clocks. They know how to run the supply chain, drive costs down on volume and build cars accurately and quickly. Tesla will struggle there too. Their margin for error is very small.
Ah, not so fast. Where I don't think this is great news for Tesla, and I agree Tesla has been spinning it's wheels getting manufacturing up to speed, They are far from done. They are rapidly running out of maneuvering room as the majors start to take Tesla seriously enough to market similarly equipped all electrics at similar price points, so they need to get that factory running, w/o any more delays or they will be done. BUT they are not done.
I give Tesla less than a 50% chance of making it long term and I'm worried about how Musk is acting right now. Their problems are stacking up and we are still in the mode where the pile is getting higher as they move forward, but if they can start working the issues faster than they find them, there is still a chance.
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Exactly. When I read this press release, it smacks of being written by somebody who doesn't understand the first thing about batteries... OR by somebody who understands a great deal about them but is trying to generate interest from venture capitalists by saying meaningless things that sound good to those who don't understand.
I don't think this is a violation of anybody's rights. All the order does is put individual folks on the "do not trade with" list with all sorts of other unsavory actors like known terrorists, drug and human traffickers, arms dealers and folks who are known to trade with the same. It is roughly the same as the "Do Not Fly" list, only it's maintained by the Department of Commerce, not the TSA. So you get on this list and US companies are barred from selling or buying stuff from you. This is not a new list, it's been law for decades, the only thing that's changed is we are adding another reason to put folks on this list.
If you are a foreign citizen on US soil you get your first amendment rights like anybody else, except that you cannot donate to political campaigns of course or vote. So, foreigners do NOT get all the same rights as US citizens, though we recognize your natural rights to free speech, assembly, self defense and such. So free speech is not abridged by putting your name on this list, only your ability to do business with US companies and individuals is impacted.
This list is not new, we are just adding a reason to put folks on it. This list has not been successfully challenged on constitutional grounds (or unsuccessfully as far as I know), so your assertion that it violates the first amendment is without much basis.
This should really include political contributions from the like of Halliburton et al.
Already done... If you are a foreign company, you cannot contribute to PAC's, parties or political campaigns given current campaign finance law. At least that's what I understand. For instance, the NRA (a 501c3 nonprofit) can accept foreign donations, but they cannot then turn around and give that money to a political organization, PAC or campaign. Direct Foreign money is simply illegal in political campaigns. Doesn't mean it never happens, only that the FEC will likely deal with such stuff severely when they find it.
Now there is little the USA can do about non-money based activities abroad designed to impact our elections anyway. We can fuss and fume, but in reality we cannot stop it short of going 100% isolationist (cutting off all trade, travel and communications), which would be about as stupid as it could get.
...I'm sure all of Trump's detractors will agree that he has done the right thing and it's about time.
Won't they?
When it comes to Trump you get all the consistency of a magic 8 ball. If somebody shakes the old fart between now and the election we will get a totally different reaction to any election meddling from what he's rambling about now. In the absence of any consistency in this White House I'll believe he's willing to slap sanctions on Russia it when I see him do it.
Are you looking at what he does then?
Didn't he sign the bill that increased the sanctions on Russia that passed though Congress early in his term? I believe he did on 8/2/17. Now I hear lots of folks say that this was because he didn't have a choice given the margins it passed Congress with, but he signed it. See H.R.3364 on Tomas.gov for details.
So are you paying attention?
So, if you *hack* something over the internet to try and influence the election AND you are a foreign national or company, we will add you to the naughty list and not let you do business with the USA?
Um... I'm just curious how this is going to help anything... It's not like you can stop foreign meddling. They still can attempt to lie to Facebook and buy "issue ads" or engage in troll farm activities from home. The only difference now is that IF we catch you AND we can identify who you are you get put on the naughty list for US trade. I'm sure the Troll farmers are crying over their vodka as they close up shop, saying "it's just too risky now, I got to stop as I'm so dependent on my business partners in the USA for everything!"
Doesn't anybody understand that our laws don't have any teeth overseas? We can (and should) threaten to do these things, but this is about as much as we can do. Short of going to war, putting folks on the naughty list is the absolute limit for the Federal government's ability.
The TRUE fix for this is to educate and actually have the US voters to engage in a bit of critical thinking when given the truth. It may seem far fetched, but I think the US voters are actually pretty good at this, when properly and truthfully informed. The problem is, partisan opinion and fantasy positions have taken over the world of politics and the quest for votes has transcended the need to be truthful with the voters; Truthful about yourself, your opponent and about what the real problems are. It's win at any price, say anything you need to win and clean up the mess after you are elected if necessary, the truth no longer matters, only winning the election. After all, everybody will forget the whole sordid affair in about 2 weeks as long as you don't get charged with a crime, and lying in a stump speech is not a crime.
Will he be passing legislation to stop them bump search results or hiding content in order to manipulate the election result?
The elephant in the room really wants to know..
...its because the election was hacked."
Get ready for it.
Well... It's been the narrative for almost the last three years now, so Why not?
...I'm sure all of Trump's detractors will agree that he has done the right thing and it's about time.
Won't they?
I guess hope springs eternal in that regard. Irrational behavior doesn't usually change. Just like there are those who wouldn't care if he shot someone dead on a public street (his example, not mine) there are those who'd complain if he single handedly cured cancer and poverty world wide.
So my guess is this action will 1. not be covered by his detractors in the media who will ignore it and 2. when covered. will be derided for various reasons (ineffective, to late, etc.). The end result will be that he will get no credit for his efforts, despite the fact that this is about all he can conceivably do with the bounds of his constitutional powers.
Really, the issue needs to be addressed by Congress, but they have a lower overall approval rating than the president... A rating that I believe is well earned.
Perfecting Keyless entry is not a matter of time, it's a matter of wanting to do it right. The technology already exists to do this job securely, the manufacturers just need to use it.
Personally, if I was doing this, I'd have a keyfob that had a time based code rotation. Where the fob would transmit a constantly changing encrypted sequence of codes but only when it is receiving a specific car's beacon, which is itself a time based encrypted string. If you keep the car's transmit range low, the keyfob won't be transmitting unless it is with visual range of the car. Keyfob transmissions would also be time division multiplexed with the cars in a random looking pattern and frequency hopping driven by encryption. This would make the hacker's most common methods of getting around such systems much more difficult.
Spoofing the keyfob by just parroting what it transmits wouldn't work anymore. It would be very difficult to capture enough car/keyfob conversations to break the encryption keys. The only possible way to hack this would to be a bi-directional RF amplifier setup, which would be much more difficult to do if the hackers didn't know the random frequency hoping and time division sequencing.
Most people don't know just how big Texas is.. Maybe I can help..
You could drive more than 8 hours on interstate highways and barely be able to cross Texas either north and south, or East and west. And our speed limits range up to 75 mph in places.
Two of the top ten most populated metropolitan are in Texas. Dallas-Ft Worth is #5 and Huston is #6. Don't forget San Antonio is there too (like #35 of 50).
The GDP of Texas would be #11 in the world if it was a country of it's own.
It's the second largest state (only Alaska is bigger) and it's the second in population (behind only California).
Agree that indeed lots of plastic enter the ocean from a river but also beach tourism, (cargo) ships, illegal dumping,...
Of the plastic entering, only 2% comes from North American sources. China/Asia are responsible for the vast majority of plastic in the oceans.
Think of the political narrative these days... Which party wants to bad mouth the economy and which wants to sing it's praises? Which story is being covered in the press?
I'll leave you to think about the implications.
My uncle was a computer scientist for a National Lab. He retired 15 or so years ago. I remember just after my grandmother first got internet, he didn't have it at his home yet because he didn't believe it was safe -this was probably 1997 or 98, and I remember him talking to me about how disappointed he was with the internet. "It was supposed to be this great thing. It's useless. It'll never amount to anything."
Yeah, he was wrong.
Was he? Was he really?
How much of the internet is truly useful and how much is just trash? Judging by my inbox, the number of E-mail in my inbox the ratio 1s more than 10 to 1 SPAM to worth while messages (And that's AFTER the SPAM filters.)
I find that this ratio pretty much governs the whole of the internet.. Where 1/10th of it is actually something of use and the rest is just useless junk.
So he's not that wrong.
Example: Apple will go under...any day now....since 1984
But they've been totally correct in not predicting the "Year of the Linux Desktop" has come.
You win a few and lose a few.
Why?
Politics of course..
You still do not physically test N+1 solutions which are in operation. Even if it's fictional N+1 redundancy because of some configuration error, it's better to stay running than risk breaking your SLA's.
Now, that doesn't mean you don't fully test and vet your N+1 solution prior to putting it into service and then regularly by physical inspection and on paper. You can even test portions of your system which are not in service or part of the +1 redundancy, but you don't risk disrupting operational systems with silly redundancy tests, not when you have SLA's to keep.
There will be enough natural failures to make keeping your SLA's hard enough, you don't need to add risk by doing redundancy testing. You need to regularly fail over the whole system, verify your backups actually work and stuff like that, but you don't go into the server room and flip random breakers off just to make sure everything keeps running..
The majors can out spend them and out design and build them in short order. Tesla needs more production cost reductions or some kind of differentiator that can translate in to profits. Wiz Bang features are nice, but expensive.
The problem for Tesla is the majors can afford to pound them if there is money to be made in Tesla's market. So if Tesla makes too much, they are going to get attacked, if they don't make enough, they will wither and die. The range for success is very narrow.
I never said they where doomed, only that they where out of time and room for error. Everything must go right for them now. No more mistakes or missteps can be made.
Promises have been made in the past which have not been kept. Tesla needs to start keeping promises, the factory simply has to start turning out cars at a profit. So far, standing up the factory has been taking longer and costing more than expected with production well under target. But getting production on track will NOT be enough to ensure their success.
Tesla is now starting to face competition in their luxury market space from the Majors. If they prove there is money to be made there, you can bet the majors will jump into the space. I hear that Tesla's has little room to lower prices, because their build costs are high, so the majors can sink them on cost to price if they want to. If there is money to be made, you can bet they will try to sink Tesla and Tesla will be powerless to resist. If that happens, bankruptcy and selling off parts of the company will be forced. If there isn't enough money in the space to interest the majors, Tesla will face starvation if they are too big to be sustained by the cars they can sell.
So, Tesla may make it, but the odds are stacked to make this unlikely. The road to success is very narrow now. There are a million ways they fail, and only a handful where they succeed.
IF they fail, the majors will just buy up the technology from the creditors for pennies on the dollar.
Good point. However, receive and transmit antennae are normally separate anyway. You use a multi-element receive antenna, but a single element transmit antenna. If you can replace all of your multi-element receive antennae with a single, smaller one, that's still a big win in terms of tower real-estate.
Actually... This is not true. The same antenna is used for receive and transmit all the time. You have both full duplex (RX and TX at the same time) and half Duplex applications that do this.
Your local cell tower and cell phone is a perfect example of this. My local Ham radio repeater does full duplex every time it's keyed.
Tesla will likely end up on the ash heap of history with Delorian. But there is a chance they make it on their own, a very slim chance. But the odds where always stacked this way for Tesla. My guess is that they won't make it, but it's going to be fun to watch them try. It won't all be a waste, Tesla has advanced the state of the art in ways the majors couldn't and I'm going to bet that whomever snaps them up as they die will get a treasure trove of new things.
My guess is Tesla gets purchased by one of the majors, or hits bankruptcy and pieces get purchased by many of the majors. In the end, Tesla will have advanced the state of the art greatly, and the brand name will live on, but the company will not exist anymore. But that's how the odds where stacked when this whole idea got started.
Not really. You just periodically do disaster tests. Shut down one of the 'N' periodically, and if infra that isn't supposed to go down does, turn it back on quickly, then do a post-mortem to figure out what screw-up needs to be fixed, and fix it.
Sounds great, again in theory... Taking down 1 is to temporally do away with your redundancy (if it exists) and risks causing an actual outage if it doesn't. If you have SLA's to keep, you are not going to willingly perform such tests except in rather unique situations. You never willingly give up your +1.
The way you maintain N+1 is by first intensive design reviews of installation plans that include comprehensive wire labeling and inspection of same. Strict engineering controls for existing modifications and maintenance activities including software versions and configurations and extensive testing on representative hardware, software and configurations before fielding. Also, if you truly have strict SLA's with your customers, you have N+1 sites, not just systems, and a failure recovery plan that moves customer's services to another location.
If you are going to do any kind of testing for N+1, it's site to site. Or you will first set up N+2, move your customers off the system under test and THEN test in ways which cannot break things for your customers. In short, you NEVER test N+1 systems which are in production use.
Tesla failed to meet production goals again. And musk will soon be getting ass raped in prison for securities fraud.
It was the Ambien and the SEC doesn't send you to the maximum security part of the system where such things happen. Especially in this case. Musk broke the rules by talking when he should have kept quiet. If he didn't tip somebody to what he was going to say and didn't make a personal profit on this, the SEC isn't going to toss him in the pokey. He was just shooting off his mouth in public, about stuff he should have kept quiet about, you don't go to jail for that. They may fine Tesla and/or Musk for his stupid talking out of turn and not though official channels, but I don't think they will go past that.
Unless he tried to lie to the SEC about it or cover it up, he's going to get a fine at most.
Mercedes isn't the paragon of virtue quality wise. They have their own quality issues. My brother is a Mercedes dealer mechanic (among the top 10% in the nation) and he told me that there are a number of models he'd never recommend anybody buy. Their SUV initially had some serious quality issues with the electronics packages and once they fall out of warranty, few folks keep them due to their huge maintenance costs, so they get junked pretty quick.
But you do make a valid point. Tesla needs to get that factory working and stop messing around. They don't have time to mess with any new features, but need to start pushing out cars at a profit. They have to make good and start recouping their investors' money.
Long term, Tesla will face a serious issue with their build costs. That's where the majors will clean their clocks. They know how to run the supply chain, drive costs down on volume and build cars accurately and quickly. Tesla will struggle there too. Their margin for error is very small.
History repeats, just stick around long enough, you will see it's true.
Now Flip-phones will be smart ones too..
Game over
Ah, not so fast. Where I don't think this is great news for Tesla, and I agree Tesla has been spinning it's wheels getting manufacturing up to speed, They are far from done. They are rapidly running out of maneuvering room as the majors start to take Tesla seriously enough to market similarly equipped all electrics at similar price points, so they need to get that factory running, w/o any more delays or they will be done. BUT they are not done.
I give Tesla less than a 50% chance of making it long term and I'm worried about how Musk is acting right now. Their problems are stacking up and we are still in the mode where the pile is getting higher as they move forward, but if they can start working the issues faster than they find them, there is still a chance.