Except that Facebook didn't necessarily control the data collection, how's this even a thing? Any two bit bot could hoover up all the public profile information by just sorting through what Facebook provides the public access to. "Search here for friends!"
They are unshielded from cosmic radiation, high speed impacts with dust and other such dangers is why. Not to mention they are unshielded from the probe's own nuclear heat source which will emit radiation for thousands of years, the very kind of radiation that we use here on earth to sterilize medical equipment and supplies.
It's not the vacuum per se, it's the radiation over long periods AND the vacuum that's going to kill every kind of life possibly hitching a ride long before Voyager gets within 2 light years of anything other than our own Sun.
They have already done demographic analyses, found the opinion leaders, found the arguments that would be persuasive to them, verified them using focus group testing. Now all that 87 million people think it is no big deal if they are trolled and emotionally manipulated for their vote.
Expect people coming out of wood work blaming Hillary for being dumb out of touch politician and a master criminal at the same time.
She's no master criminal... Just a liar who got caught multiple times trying to explain away a two bit crime... But yes, that's basically why she failed.
They are just surprised the Trump campaign was able to pay for this data and actually use it. Had the data ended up in the hands of say the Obama campaign, nobody would have cared (nor did they when it happened). Had Hillary won, nobody would have cared then either.
The issue here is Trump unexpectedly won and ANYBODY or ANYTHING that may have contributed to that is now subject to a proctology exam all the way up to the tonsils. Why? Because somebody needs to explain how this could happen when all the media funded polling data was clearly showing and the media was breathlessly reporting that there was no other possible outcome other than a Hillary win.
So.. Because the obvious didn't happen, it's time to assign blame. We started with the "Russian collusion" story... Which morphed into a Facebook ads purchased by the Russians... Then it's a general social media trolling by the Russians... And now, after all that didn't wash, it's time to rap the knuckles of Facebook for letting folks scrape data and sell it to Trump...
This really is nothing more than political theater for the mindless masses and Facebook is the current choice for the gladiator backed by the press to slay. It's not like Facebook did anything we didn't expect or already know they could or would. This is about getting elected in November and having plausible deniability for why some failed in that task in 2016...
Commercial flights? Maybe not.. But I can se big business in flying VIP customers at Mach 1.4. Flying VIP customers around on demand and quickly might be economically viable.
Also, the application to military aircraft might be worth it too.
Maybe. Boeing bet on the 787 because of fuel costs, and that seems to have been the correct decision
It was the right choice for commercial flights where fuel efficiency per passenger mile is king. I'm talking about charter services, where the customers are few, but well able and willing to pay to get there faster. The cross country time savings just *might* make it worth the extra costs given they are willing to pay now for chartered service in private jets. The question is if there are enough customers willing to pay enough to keep the aircraft flying...
(Just sayin..) If you don't like what the company you work for does, it might be time to find a new place to work... Just tell HR on your way out the door why you are leaving. Trust me, it will have a bigger impact than this PR campaign to shame your employer into refusing business that you don't personally like, with the added bonus that it won't run the risk of getting you branded a troublemaker or having to get fired. It's never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.
Commercial flights? Maybe not.. But I can se big business in flying VIP customers at Mach 1.4. Flying VIP customers around on demand and quickly might be economically viable.
Also, the application to military aircraft might be worth it too.
In the US, people can freely cross borders between states. That's why Chicago has such terrible gun violence despite having strict(er) gun laws than neighboring states/cities.
Chicago's problem is social and economic. The rampant proliferation of ILLEGAL weapons is but a symptom. I contend that allowing LEGAL firearms into the place would help the innocent survive as would prosecuting firearm violations (such as position by felons, or use in a crime) which isn't really done by Chicago could help.... But Again, the real issue in Chicago is not illegal weapons, it's just a symptom of the social and economic crisis of the people who live in parts of it.
Common sense would say that regular employees (not members of the security staff) carrying guns inside of companies is useless, absurd and insane.
Maybe, maybe not...
Common sense tells me that in the situation where you don't know for sure who may be armed and intending a crime, having law abiding citizens who are armed and can confront the criminally minded is a good idea.
Armed security is great, but most mass shootings are over in about 3 min. Dealing with mass shooters involves two goals. First, limiting the number of targets they see by training people how to evade, hide and locking doors. Second, is to confront the shooter somehow sooner rather than later, because most shooters will stop and flee or commit suicide when confronted. In this case, having law abiding citizens with arms spread about seems to be a good idea to me.
Of course, if you want to provide armed guards who can respond in mere seconds, that's helpful too, but I doubt you can afford enough of them in any reasonable sized facility to have response times that will be all that helpful given the relatively short lengths of mass shootings.
don't ban guns on their property, this will continue to happen.
Cute... Make it illegal and nobody will dare do it. Right...
I would imagine that it's illegal to carry your firearm into a post office and shoot up the place... But that didn't stop people from going postal.
Where I work, firearms are defiantly not allowed and we get trained on this regularly just to make sure everybody knows and remembers the rules. That's great, but there is literally nothing to keep a disgruntled employee from breaking the rules. Therefore we do annual "active shooter" training as part of the site safety training.
Why do I bring all this up? Because, you cannot stop weapons from showing up in places you don't want them by just passing laws or making rules. You have to take positive measures to keep them out of places (metal detectors, pat downs and such) and even then it's not 100% effective (we still have weapons in prisons, though we strip search inmates and go though their stuff regularly).
No law or rule fixes this.... Then there is the 2nd amendment to deal with, which pretty much guarantees you cannot keep firearms out of public hands, which limits the laws you can even have.... No, other solutions are going to be required..
No worries, not knowing that we know since 40 years that earth bacteria survive in vacuum, and survive the reentry, does not make you look like an idiot, it only makes you look rather uninformed;)
The nearest star to Voyager's path is 40,000 years away, which it will approach within 1.6 light years. NOTHING will be alive on the probe long before it gets there. Unless you are trying to claim that bacteria will be able to survive 40,000 years in the vacuum and cosmic radiation between now and then. In fact, I'd be willing to bet the probe itself will be but a shadow of it's current structure in that amount of time. If not, have your offspring contact my offspring to pay the bet.
This is a cruel hard fact of interstellar travel, distance are huge, sub light travel times impractically long, going faster seem impossible, and the environment is too harsh for life to survive in any form for the length of time required. We are stuck here for the time being, hooked to a dying star which will expand and fry the earth and all that's alive here. Voyager may out live the earth, but it won't carry life to another place.
1. The payload won't make it. Bacteria is unlikely to survive in the interstellar environment long enough to "get there" (where ever there is), much less survive a reentry into a survivable atmosphere.
2. There is no desired destination. Voyager isn't actually pointed at some known destination at this point. It's headed to who knows where.
Wouldn't a deliver drone imply that it is designed to deliver a payload to a desired destination?
I will grant that Voyager 1 is going pretty fast though...
Didn't Putin just happen to mention he has nuclear tipped hypersonic cruse missiles? Doesn't that qualify as a delivery drone?
Come to think of it, didn't we nearly go to WW3 over some missiles being placed 20 min away from DC when the Russians put them in Cuba in the 60's? Wouldn't that be faster than these?
My point really was that if you cared about privacy, DON'T post on social media stuff you wish to keep private. You don't want your data harvested and used for something, don't put it in places you don't absolutely control who gets to see it and use it. (Basically, that means DON'T put anything up there unless you are OK with it being public, because it might just become public and you cannot stop it..)
Like it or not, privacy policies or even privacy laws are NOT going to keep your stuff private. In fact, all they really do is assign responsibility for the breach of your privacy. In the case of most privacy policies I've read, you get to take your case to arbitration. I suppose privacy laws just give you a government to complain to, who then can fine a company if the law was broken, but that only works if the "company" in question actually does business in your country....
All this Facebook face saving "Oh we care about your security now!" and the hoards of social media platforms following suit is just a bit late and pretty much a PR exercise. Data breaches happen, people make mistakes, and data will be exposed. We all need to get used to that truth and live our social media lives accordingly.
Facebook is taking it on the chin for that "security breach" by a company working for the Trump campaign and now EVERYBODY is running scared. How nice..
Why is this? Are we *really* that hopped up on political intrigues that everybody has to position themselves as "unbiased platforms" regardless of the consequences?
Who in their right mind ever thought that what they posted on any social media platform was "safe" from data mining operations? I know nobody reads the EULA, TOS or even the privacy policy every time it changes, but give me a break. Why are folks all upset now?
Who get's root privileges on the first day? Even if you are a sysadmin you don't get root privileges on your first day around here.... But what system admin doesn't have story like this? I once deleted ALL the E-Mail on a system with a wild card, but we had a full system backup that I made the night before so not much was lost beyond face.
This is an example of why I NEVER run a console with admin privileges as the default. I do have "sudo", and any time I type "sudo" it's my reminder to pause and actually read the following command and make sure I know what I'm doing... We also have BACKUPS or I'm going to be complaining every chance I get.
1. The weather, it's usually dry and clear and that is important because H2O is the nemesis of satellite band RF. So uplinks in Florida, where they exist, are a bit more subject to rain fade issues than the ones in Denver.
2. It's almost in the middle of the country. This means that you can uplink to a satellites over the majority of the country directly (in one hop). When you are looking for the least delay and maximum bandwidth, single hops are better than multiple ones.
3. It's where the engineers are that know about this stuff. Historically, because a lot of uplinking has happened in and around Denver, there is a pool of experience already living there to draw on that know what they are doing. Never underestimate the cost of relocation...
This isn't to say that Space-X won't have multiple uplink locations for an LEO constellation. I would assume they would need a lot of small uplink sites all over the earth to make this idea work efficiency. But I do figure that they will be located in the traditional locations as much as possible for similar reasons.
Yeah, but what about the folks born there and never got a chance to see the sign? Until having a child in California is illegal we need a way to let them know everything there cancerous. Postings on every door, 24/7 emergency broadcast messages and emergency SMS messages, and 24/7 loudspeaker announcements all over the state?
Most of them will be dying of cancer shortly anyway. Why worry them about it?
1) Make a list of all the puns you can think of using the words "grind," "grounds," and "bean," e.g. "Stomping Grounds," "The Daily Grind" etc.
2) Cross off every item on the list that is a pun
3) Name your business "Joe's Coffee Shop"
So.. Your motto is... "Get your cup o' Joe at Joe's?" then?
FIFY... This will be a costly way to provide internet service. It may be cheaper in rural areas or for mobile customers who depend on cellular or geosynchronous based providers now, but the customer base will be limited in this cost range.
average distance from east coast to uplinks which are typically in denver
This is supposed to be a global system, so why the hell is Denver, of all places, of special importance here?:-p
Middle of the country, the weather is generally not that bad, already a mile high and the network connectivity isn't bad in Denver. Plus a lot of uplink sites already exist there.
However, that's not to say any other central location with good network connectivity wouldn't be workable.
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Uh.. Yea... They are "Public" right?
Except that Facebook didn't necessarily control the data collection, how's this even a thing? Any two bit bot could hoover up all the public profile information by just sorting through what Facebook provides the public access to. "Search here for friends!"
Who didn't already know this could happen?
They are unshielded from cosmic radiation, high speed impacts with dust and other such dangers is why. Not to mention they are unshielded from the probe's own nuclear heat source which will emit radiation for thousands of years, the very kind of radiation that we use here on earth to sterilize medical equipment and supplies.
It's not the vacuum per se, it's the radiation over long periods AND the vacuum that's going to kill every kind of life possibly hitching a ride long before Voyager gets within 2 light years of anything other than our own Sun.
They have already done demographic analyses, found the opinion leaders, found the arguments that would be persuasive to them, verified them using focus group testing. Now all that 87 million people think it is no big deal if they are trolled and emotionally manipulated for their vote.
Expect people coming out of wood work blaming Hillary for being dumb out of touch politician and a master criminal at the same time.
She's no master criminal... Just a liar who got caught multiple times trying to explain away a two bit crime... But yes, that's basically why she failed.
They are just surprised the Trump campaign was able to pay for this data and actually use it. Had the data ended up in the hands of say the Obama campaign, nobody would have cared (nor did they when it happened). Had Hillary won, nobody would have cared then either.
The issue here is Trump unexpectedly won and ANYBODY or ANYTHING that may have contributed to that is now subject to a proctology exam all the way up to the tonsils. Why? Because somebody needs to explain how this could happen when all the media funded polling data was clearly showing and the media was breathlessly reporting that there was no other possible outcome other than a Hillary win.
So.. Because the obvious didn't happen, it's time to assign blame. We started with the "Russian collusion" story... Which morphed into a Facebook ads purchased by the Russians... Then it's a general social media trolling by the Russians... And now, after all that didn't wash, it's time to rap the knuckles of Facebook for letting folks scrape data and sell it to Trump...
This really is nothing more than political theater for the mindless masses and Facebook is the current choice for the gladiator backed by the press to slay. It's not like Facebook did anything we didn't expect or already know they could or would. This is about getting elected in November and having plausible deniability for why some failed in that task in 2016...
Commercial flights? Maybe not.. But I can se big business in flying VIP customers at Mach 1.4. Flying VIP customers around on demand and quickly might be economically viable.
Also, the application to military aircraft might be worth it too.
Maybe. Boeing bet on the 787 because of fuel costs, and that seems to have been the correct decision
It was the right choice for commercial flights where fuel efficiency per passenger mile is king. I'm talking about charter services, where the customers are few, but well able and willing to pay to get there faster. The cross country time savings just *might* make it worth the extra costs given they are willing to pay now for chartered service in private jets. The question is if there are enough customers willing to pay enough to keep the aircraft flying...
(Just sayin..) If you don't like what the company you work for does, it might be time to find a new place to work... Just tell HR on your way out the door why you are leaving. Trust me, it will have a bigger impact than this PR campaign to shame your employer into refusing business that you don't personally like, with the added bonus that it won't run the risk of getting you branded a troublemaker or having to get fired. It's never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.
Commercial flights? Maybe not.. But I can se big business in flying VIP customers at Mach 1.4. Flying VIP customers around on demand and quickly might be economically viable.
Also, the application to military aircraft might be worth it too.
In the US, people can freely cross borders between states. That's why Chicago has such terrible gun violence despite having strict(er) gun laws than neighboring states/cities.
Chicago's problem is social and economic. The rampant proliferation of ILLEGAL weapons is but a symptom. I contend that allowing LEGAL firearms into the place would help the innocent survive as would prosecuting firearm violations (such as position by felons, or use in a crime) which isn't really done by Chicago could help.... But Again, the real issue in Chicago is not illegal weapons, it's just a symptom of the social and economic crisis of the people who live in parts of it.
Because the only solution to guns is more guns of course. It's not like that could ever go wrong.
It's not perfect, but yes. Guns in the hands of the law abiding often DO help in the case of a mass shooting incident or during violent crimes.
Let's not toss out workable solutions because there are risks or it's not perfect. "Perfect is the enemy of good" in this case.
Common sense would say that regular employees (not members of the security staff) carrying guns inside of companies is useless, absurd and insane.
Maybe, maybe not...
Common sense tells me that in the situation where you don't know for sure who may be armed and intending a crime, having law abiding citizens who are armed and can confront the criminally minded is a good idea.
Armed security is great, but most mass shootings are over in about 3 min. Dealing with mass shooters involves two goals. First, limiting the number of targets they see by training people how to evade, hide and locking doors. Second, is to confront the shooter somehow sooner rather than later, because most shooters will stop and flee or commit suicide when confronted. In this case, having law abiding citizens with arms spread about seems to be a good idea to me.
Of course, if you want to provide armed guards who can respond in mere seconds, that's helpful too, but I doubt you can afford enough of them in any reasonable sized facility to have response times that will be all that helpful given the relatively short lengths of mass shootings.
don't ban guns on their property, this will continue to happen.
Cute... Make it illegal and nobody will dare do it. Right...
I would imagine that it's illegal to carry your firearm into a post office and shoot up the place... But that didn't stop people from going postal.
Where I work, firearms are defiantly not allowed and we get trained on this regularly just to make sure everybody knows and remembers the rules. That's great, but there is literally nothing to keep a disgruntled employee from breaking the rules. Therefore we do annual "active shooter" training as part of the site safety training.
Why do I bring all this up? Because, you cannot stop weapons from showing up in places you don't want them by just passing laws or making rules. You have to take positive measures to keep them out of places (metal detectors, pat downs and such) and even then it's not 100% effective (we still have weapons in prisons, though we strip search inmates and go though their stuff regularly).
No law or rule fixes this.... Then there is the 2nd amendment to deal with, which pretty much guarantees you cannot keep firearms out of public hands, which limits the laws you can even have.... No, other solutions are going to be required..
Yes, but not on Utube. They banned Gun videos remember?
No worries, not knowing that we know since 40 years that earth bacteria survive in vacuum, and survive the reentry, does not make you look like an idiot, it only makes you look rather uninformed ;)
The nearest star to Voyager's path is 40,000 years away, which it will approach within 1.6 light years. NOTHING will be alive on the probe long before it gets there. Unless you are trying to claim that bacteria will be able to survive 40,000 years in the vacuum and cosmic radiation between now and then. In fact, I'd be willing to bet the probe itself will be but a shadow of it's current structure in that amount of time. If not, have your offspring contact my offspring to pay the bet.
This is a cruel hard fact of interstellar travel, distance are huge, sub light travel times impractically long, going faster seem impossible, and the environment is too harsh for life to survive in any form for the length of time required. We are stuck here for the time being, hooked to a dying star which will expand and fry the earth and all that's alive here. Voyager may out live the earth, but it won't carry life to another place.
Because... All of the backdoors required to make surveillance of the masses possible..
Time for individual point to point encryption for just about everything..
Only two issues with that...
1. The payload won't make it. Bacteria is unlikely to survive in the interstellar environment long enough to "get there" (where ever there is), much less survive a reentry into a survivable atmosphere.
2. There is no desired destination. Voyager isn't actually pointed at some known destination at this point. It's headed to who knows where.
Wouldn't a deliver drone imply that it is designed to deliver a payload to a desired destination?
I will grant that Voyager 1 is going pretty fast though...
Didn't Putin just happen to mention he has nuclear tipped hypersonic cruse missiles? Doesn't that qualify as a delivery drone?
Come to think of it, didn't we nearly go to WW3 over some missiles being placed 20 min away from DC when the Russians put them in Cuba in the 60's? Wouldn't that be faster than these?
My point really was that if you cared about privacy, DON'T post on social media stuff you wish to keep private. You don't want your data harvested and used for something, don't put it in places you don't absolutely control who gets to see it and use it. (Basically, that means DON'T put anything up there unless you are OK with it being public, because it might just become public and you cannot stop it..)
Like it or not, privacy policies or even privacy laws are NOT going to keep your stuff private. In fact, all they really do is assign responsibility for the breach of your privacy. In the case of most privacy policies I've read, you get to take your case to arbitration. I suppose privacy laws just give you a government to complain to, who then can fine a company if the law was broken, but that only works if the "company" in question actually does business in your country....
All this Facebook face saving "Oh we care about your security now!" and the hoards of social media platforms following suit is just a bit late and pretty much a PR exercise. Data breaches happen, people make mistakes, and data will be exposed. We all need to get used to that truth and live our social media lives accordingly.
Facebook is taking it on the chin for that "security breach" by a company working for the Trump campaign and now EVERYBODY is running scared. How nice..
Why is this? Are we *really* that hopped up on political intrigues that everybody has to position themselves as "unbiased platforms" regardless of the consequences?
Who in their right mind ever thought that what they posted on any social media platform was "safe" from data mining operations? I know nobody reads the EULA, TOS or even the privacy policy every time it changes, but give me a break. Why are folks all upset now?
Asking for a friend..
I did this once...on the first day of a new job.
Who get's root privileges on the first day? Even if you are a sysadmin you don't get root privileges on your first day around here.... But what system admin doesn't have story like this? I once deleted ALL the E-Mail on a system with a wild card, but we had a full system backup that I made the night before so not much was lost beyond face.
This is an example of why I NEVER run a console with admin privileges as the default. I do have "sudo", and any time I type "sudo" it's my reminder to pause and actually read the following command and make sure I know what I'm doing... We also have BACKUPS or I'm going to be complaining every chance I get.
There are three reasons for Denver...
1. The weather, it's usually dry and clear and that is important because H2O is the nemesis of satellite band RF. So uplinks in Florida, where they exist, are a bit more subject to rain fade issues than the ones in Denver.
2. It's almost in the middle of the country. This means that you can uplink to a satellites over the majority of the country directly (in one hop). When you are looking for the least delay and maximum bandwidth, single hops are better than multiple ones.
3. It's where the engineers are that know about this stuff. Historically, because a lot of uplinking has happened in and around Denver, there is a pool of experience already living there to draw on that know what they are doing. Never underestimate the cost of relocation...
This isn't to say that Space-X won't have multiple uplink locations for an LEO constellation. I would assume they would need a lot of small uplink sites all over the earth to make this idea work efficiency. But I do figure that they will be located in the traditional locations as much as possible for similar reasons.
Yeah, but what about the folks born there and never got a chance to see the sign? Until having a child in California is illegal we need a way to let them know everything there cancerous. Postings on every door, 24/7 emergency broadcast messages and emergency SMS messages, and 24/7 loudspeaker announcements all over the state?
Most of them will be dying of cancer shortly anyway. Why worry them about it?
everything is a carcinogen in california...
Makes you wonder if it's not California? Perhaps they should just put [May Cause Cancer] warnings on all the "Welcome to California" signs.
Guide to opening a coffee shop:
1) Make a list of all the puns you can think of using the words "grind," "grounds," and "bean," e.g. "Stomping Grounds," "The Daily Grind" etc. 2) Cross off every item on the list that is a pun 3) Name your business "Joe's Coffee Shop"
So.. Your motto is... "Get your cup o' Joe at Joe's?" then?
FIFY... This will be a costly way to provide internet service. It may be cheaper in rural areas or for mobile customers who depend on cellular or geosynchronous based providers now, but the customer base will be limited in this cost range.
average distance from east coast to uplinks which are typically in denver
This is supposed to be a global system, so why the hell is Denver, of all places, of special importance here? :-p
Middle of the country, the weather is generally not that bad, already a mile high and the network connectivity isn't bad in Denver. Plus a lot of uplink sites already exist there.
However, that's not to say any other central location with good network connectivity wouldn't be workable.