Caldera released NetWare for Linux a couple (few, whatever) years ago. We got all exicted about it and bought it. It was practically useless, though. It essentially only ran on their distro, and only with NetWare boxen with a specific service pack. It was basically a proof-of-concept release.
NetWare folks new this day would one day come (an "official" Novell supported release), but they sure took their time on it. What's funny now is that all these Novell guys who spoke ill of how Linux wasn't up to snuff will soon be beating along the install trail to try this new thing out. It's better for Linux than it is for Novell, I think. Lots of NetWare geeks are going to start realizing the benefits of Linux.
Another God to pray to. Hopefully people will be able to duplicate what they are doing. I think the idea behind Patents is a good thing, but they seem to go wacko in the computer world where monopolies tend to naturally no matter what you do. The Patents only seem to make things worse. But that's just my take on it.
Hackers want to have a good time at work, or else what was once a cool job just becomes a regular old job. I'd stay at a place that pays me slightly less than another if it's a cool place to work, and I'd bet most other people feel the same as me. It may get them (Apple) productivity increases at first, but they'll slowly lose people as the developers find that it sucks to work there now. Oh well--they never really catered to hacker as end-users, so why should the employees be treated any differently. It's a shame.
Harping on ZDnet because they only had to do 1 patch to NT and 21 to Linux is unfair.
Sorry, SP5 isn't all there is to it. Remember that Microsoft comes out with hotfixes all the time. You still have to subscribe to a list or check the ftp site to get 'em. I bet they applied all the hotfixes as well.
This test had nothing to do with Linux vs. Microsoft. It was obviously about competence. Did anyone ever crack that linux PPC box? I don't think so.
I just got an Ultra 10 (more PCIs, tower, 440MHz). It is dog slow (just like everyone else has been saying). It looks cool and all, and I really LIKE having a cool purple Sun box under my desk, but really, I'd never spend my own money on one of these things. Just grabbing and moving a window around reminds me of the win 3.1 days--chop chop chop chop, let go. Ugh. You got some "must-have" Solaris binaries to run, get this and run them, but don't buy one of these things for fun.
Plus, you have to spend a whole day downloading from sunfreeware.com just to get it to do anything useful:-)(IMHO).
Sun has been giving away Solaris (Intel & Sparc versions) for educational and non-commercial use for over a year now. I work for a University, and since we're always broke, we now have two Sun servers, mainly because of this. But guess what, we have three times as many linux servers, because of the price of the hardware. If a Linux server can do basically the same thing a Sun box can do, I'm really hesitant to dump an extra three to five (or whatever) grand into the box just to have "rock solid" hardware. Intel crap does just fine for the most part.
Free Solaris may sound threatining at first, but it's really a non-issue. They will still charge the same outrageous prices for their hardware, related software, and support. This is Sun, folks. Would you expect anything less?
That's right. I have two flo. bulbs right above my head. Once I remove them, everything is brighter and easier to see (especially Quake, try it). I'm probably going to get a desk lamp next to help when I'm doing paper-type work. I still have some light from the bulbs on the other side of the room, but less light certainly rocks.
I considered for a couple of hours buying a new G4. Sheez, 2G could buy a really cool case--and a workstation that will last at least six months. The more I read about Apple and their new ways, the more I realize they do not in any way cater to geeks. Maybe high-end graphics people, but geeks are SOL with a Mac. Folks, just wait for CHRP to save us, and screw Apple. That's what they get. If geeks complain about Apple, sooner or later my mom, or my neighbor is going to need a reccommendation on a new computer. Guess who I won't reccommend.
I'm sure you've already been there, done that, but for the unenlightened, start with: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.ht ml then find http://www.ssh.fi/sshprotocols2/ then kill your unnecessary services and convert your NT servers to something a bit more secure.
I'm realizing that something stupid like an obscene message on one of my stupid little web servers will probably get me in more trouble than a stealthy download of confidential files. Lock it all down. Only the paranoid survive.
Besides piraters, Apple just won't give those OEMs a license to MacOS. You can't just go to CompUSA and buy MacOS and install it on your cool new PPC workstation. It'll put more PPCs out there but it will be almost all Linux.
Actually, we have an aging (IBM) PPC box that runs a brand new copy of AIX. I suppose we could NOT buy a new box from IBM (for WAY more than it's worth) and buy a cool OEMer. Hmmm...
Does anyone else here think that SGI might be diabolical enough to make a "better" Linux-based graphics platform that is largely proprietary? Maybe they wouldn't/couldn't do that, but I'll have to say it makes me a bit nervous. A distro is fine, but massive changes could start a fork.
I never thought I'd see the day that/. links to a Deseret News article. I avoid that paper at all costs, and here it is again haunting me. On topic, the only thing we ever upgrade is memory around here. Maybe a new HD, but we generally throw the old one out, or use it in some other unfortunate machine. If it had a bunch of DIMM slots, I think I'd buy it. Monty
NetWare is really nothing special. NDS is what really rocks. And the deal with Novell lately is that they're porting NDS to everything else (NT, Solaris, Linux, & others). So really, aside from server-side java apps, NetWare is out of the application market. Yes, Oracle & some other cool apps run on NetWare, but they won't last. NetWare is a file/print server. Period. Anything else is a stretch. I bet the guys at Novell weren't all that surprised. They had their chance to make it great, but they worked on NDS instead (which was a very good move in my opinion).
The real problem here ISN'T that IE will be a workable browser under Linux. That's no big deal. The problem is that IE was not built to be a cross-platform app. They just used software to bring all the Win32 crap to Unix as-is. You think NS is buggy, wait until you install the sloppy 200MB IE5 onto your workstation. It will be cool for about 3 minutes, and then you'll delete it.
Microsoft's press release tries to convince people that now NT beats Linux (and everyone else for that matter) because of this benchmark. In a very specific set of circumstances, for a very specific problem, NT wins. Folks, this hardware was specifically chosen because they knew it would beat most people. You can bet they spent 3-6 months picking this monster machine.
I, as do many Linux users, venture to the dark side from time to time (Mesa support for TNT would change things dramatically, though). I read LCDproc's faq on a windoze port, but I'm not holding my breath. Anyone know of a place to find some software for an LCD screen (free would be nice, I suppose)? hotfiles, download, & winfiles came up with a bunch of nonsense. I'd just hate to spend 100 bucks or so and have is sit there looking dumb in windoze (M$ insult explicitly implied).
This is right. Not only are we on their turf, but the configuration plainly favors NT no matter how we tune Linux. First, MS probably spent two months picking the EXACT hardware it would take to beat even a fully tuned Linux box. Also, note that ONLY 9x clients are allowed. Everyone knows by now that Samba does better with NT workstations. And don't discount their past evil doings. Who knows what they'll do to the switch configuration. Maybe they'll telnet into the switch JUST BEFORE the linux test, and slow it down. Don't put anything past them--this is war to them. We're dead meat.
I bought an SB Live!, but I still had my old SB AWE64 isa card laying around. For a while I just toughed it out, figuring that eventually a linux driver would appear. Checking opensound.org, it looked like it was going to be a LONG wait. So I threw my AWE64 back in and use it for Linux & Live! for Win98 Quake 2 sessions (yes, I do run Q2 in Linux sometimes but it sucks compared to how fast it is in 98). The only hard part is switching my speakers from one card to another during OS switch time.
I don't care about that stupid virus as much as I care about what M$ has done to invade peoples' lives. M$ is the criminal here, not the punk who will take the fall.
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NetWare folks new this day would one day come (an "official" Novell supported release), but they sure took their time on it. What's funny now is that all these Novell guys who spoke ill of how Linux wasn't up to snuff will soon be beating along the install trail to try this new thing out. It's better for Linux than it is for Novell, I think. Lots of NetWare geeks are going to start realizing the benefits of Linux.
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Sorry, SP5 isn't all there is to it. Remember that Microsoft comes out with hotfixes all the time. You still have to subscribe to a list or check the ftp site to get 'em. I bet they applied all the hotfixes as well.
This test had nothing to do with Linux vs. Microsoft. It was obviously about competence. Did anyone ever crack that linux PPC box? I don't think so.
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Plus, you have to spend a whole day downloading from sunfreeware.com just to get it to do anything useful :-)(IMHO).
Sun is about E10000s, not U5s.
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Free Solaris may sound threatining at first, but it's really a non-issue. They will still charge the same outrageous prices for their hardware, related software, and support. This is Sun, folks. Would you expect anything less?
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I'm realizing that something stupid like an obscene message on one of my stupid little web servers will probably get me in more trouble than a stealthy download of confidential files. Lock it all down. Only the paranoid survive.
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Oh. I wonder if you're "allowed" to do that.
Actually, we have an aging (IBM) PPC box that runs a brand new copy of AIX. I suppose we could NOT buy a new box from IBM (for WAY more than it's worth) and buy a cool OEMer. Hmmm...
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Does anyone else here think that SGI might be diabolical enough to make a "better" Linux-based graphics platform that is largely proprietary? Maybe they wouldn't/couldn't do that, but I'll have to say it makes me a bit nervous. A distro is fine, but massive changes could start a fork.
*pow* Source code from Apple that runs on Linux. Who would have ever thought?
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I never thought I'd see the day that /. links to a Deseret News article. I avoid that paper at all costs, and here it is again haunting me. On topic, the only thing we ever upgrade is memory around here. Maybe a new HD, but we generally throw the old one out, or use it in some other unfortunate machine. If it had a bunch of DIMM slots, I think I'd buy it. Monty
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(I blame everything on nvidia lately)
This is right. Not only are we on their turf, but the configuration plainly favors NT no matter how we tune Linux. First, MS probably spent two months picking the EXACT hardware it would take to beat even a fully tuned Linux box. Also, note that ONLY 9x clients are allowed. Everyone knows by now that Samba does better with NT workstations. And don't discount their past evil doings. Who knows what they'll do to the switch configuration. Maybe they'll telnet into the switch JUST BEFORE the linux test, and slow it down. Don't put anything past them--this is war to them. We're dead meat.
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bad ass.
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I don't care about that stupid virus as much as I care about what M$ has done to invade peoples' lives. M$ is the criminal here, not the punk who will take the fall.