Yes, the US Shield! The myth that the United States of America does Everything for Everybody! The USA is the modern day Jesus Christ Superstar of nations!
I am sick of blind patriotism. Just because the United States does some things right, doesn't mean it does everything right. In fact, it does some things horribly, horribly wrong. Turning a blind eye to it is irresponsible, sheep.
Sorry pal, wrong again. The world is not filled with "fact or fiction". For instance, I know that a flame is hot. I do not need to put my hand into it to learn of this first hand. I can learn through the teachings of others that this is so.
But you cannot learn "God exists" or "God wants you to do X". People simply do not know. The world is fact and fiction. It really is all 1's and 0's when you break everything down.
Wrong again bud. You laid out your personal opinion which happens to be not based on anything at all.
It's NOT A FUCKING OPINION. Are you reading ANYTHING I wrote? My thoughts happen to be based on this thing called "reality" which involves this thing called "evidence". Unlike whatever religion you or anyone else happens to practice.
You are mistaken, again. There is a big difference between faith and "blindly believing". In addition, religon is not based solely on faith. It's also based on historical documents and real historical people. Do documents and people not fall within the realm of fact?
Historical documents? Real historical people? I suppose you're going to tell me that the Bible is a historical document? And Jesus Christ was a real historical person? Or whatever book / prophet / messiah you like best. All of the "historical documents" that exist are analyses of various holy books... the holy books are no more provably correct than a Dr. Suess book.
Prove me wrong.
This is an incorrect assumption. The way I interact with others may be influenced by my religous beliefs, but is certainly not because of them. You do not have a firm graps on the principles of cause and effect.
Your actions are based on your entire belief system. Part of that system is religious belief. A very large part for some people. Therefore, religion influences behavior. So, what exactly am I missing?
It is obvious that you have a deep rooted blind faith in atheism, therefore you are the one acting irrationally. My religous beliefs stem from facts while yours stem from "blind faith".
My religious beliefs are the ones based in fact, ass.
It's really obvious you haven't been reading my posts. I said that AGNOSTIC is the only way to go, because nobody knows. You can't believe something just because it feels good -- that's not enough to constitute rationality. And, as a representative of every other blinded, religious, intelligence-affected person, you ignore what I say, and continue to insist that you're right.
Present facts, please, otherwise quit responding to my posts.
When you code, you are supposed to write documentation. In the Computer Science school of thought, documentation is part of coding.
Undocumented software is basically worthless as far as I'm concerned. Software should be easy enough to use without having to refer to the documentation often, but the documentation should be there in case I need to find something, and quickly.
And you're right, it is restrictive. But if that restrictiveness increases the distribution's quality, so it's fine by me.
AND, if you're in such a hurry to use undocumented crap software, you can always just compile the source code and off you go, who needs a Debian package anyway.
They are wrong for acting on irrational and illogical beliefs. It affects me. They affect me. Therefore it is perfectly within my rights to complain about it.
Religion is illogical and irrational. Sorry, that's the way it is. Faith is belief without evidence, and by its very definition is illogical! Yet, we continue to allow millions of people to act irrationally.
Food for thought: Assuming you are in the US, the money in your pocket right now says "In God we Trust".
The US Gov't forces religion on its people. They do so with the money, with the pledge of allegiance... and who the hell knows what other crap Bush is going to pull with his faith-based initiatives.
This statement is in quite bad taste, and is just plain incorrect. Whatever religon you believe in is the correct one for you.
Actually, you are incorrect. The world is composed of two things -- FACT and FICTION. If you don't know the FACT, you could very well be believing FICTION. It is completely illogical to believe you know the answers to things that yield incomplete information -- especially religion -- and therefore make a "choice". It is illogical to choose. For the record, if we had complete information about the realm of religion, there would only be ONE CORRECT RELIGION. That means that EVERY OTHER RELIGION IS WRONG. So quite frankly, your view -- which millions of other people share -- is on shaky ground from the very start, and borders on insane.
If you choose not to believe in any religon, that is also your choice. But to say that anyone who has religous beliefs is irrational and illogical is just plain ignorant.
Actually, I just laid out a rational, logical argument that argues why religious belief is irrational and illogical. Go figure!
Perhaps it is you who is simply uneducated in religons of the world, hence your abstination from beliefs.
Perhaps I realize that I *don't* know the answer, and have realized that it is irresponsible, irrational, immoral, and illogical to blindly believe something based on very, very incomplete information.
Not sure where you pulled "quite frankly unfair to everybody you interact with" but it is this ignorance and buffoonery that causes religous tension.
How you interact with other people is based on your belief system. If your belief system is unsound, your interactions with other people -- even if they result in the correct action -- are still being done for the wrong reason. Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is bad. Doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons is even worse. Therefore, acting irrationally on other people is unfair to them.
I suggest you spend some time in the religous section of a library simply for the puspose of educating yourself in a subject which you are obviously misinformed.
It is obvious I have put more thought into this than you ever have.
Freedom of religion is absolutely ridiculous. Millions of people with hundreds of (sometimes drastically) different belief systems cannot co-exist peacefully for any length of time. Different beliefs, esp. those as deeply-rooted (read: irrational) as religious beliefs invariably get forced upon others, etc. etc.
Any religion that professes to know the truth is automatically wrong. The only correct religion with the knowledge we have is "agnostic". To follow anything else is irrational, illogical, and quite frankly unfair to everybody you interact with.
Don't buy anything from them. The less money they have, the fewer lawsuits they'll be able to bring in regard to these ridiculous patents (and the less able they'll be to defend themselves from lawsuits regarding the patents.)
The problem, as I see it, is that people don't respect the copy rights that other people have, because it's easy to copy the music. If someone had to steal CD's, they wouldn't do it. I wonder why people think it's wrong to walk into a music store and take things, but think it's perfectly acceptable to copy thousands of tracks and send them to people all over the world.
You gave attitude, you received attitude -- don't bitch about it if you're going to do it yourself.
The future will be different from the present; but we are discussing the present. That is, musicians being able to make a living, by present standards, doing what they do. So, I fail to see your point.
Limited time. And it's not just for authors/artists. It's for the people that own the copyright; if I commission someone to paint a portrait of me, I hold the copyright to the portrait, there's nothing unfair about that. Same holds in the record biz.
I disagree with perpetual copyrights. And they don't let artists starve -- no one made the artists sign the contract. Get over it already. They DECIDED to sign their contracts. They made a CHOICE. They have to live by that, that's not your call to make, it was their call.
Well, agree all you want, but if you paid attention in history class, there is a reason money came to be, and there are about a billion reasons why it is better than not having it.
It's just like choosing an operating system. No one forces you to use Windows XP, but you need it if you want to play all the latest and greatest major label PC games. No one is forcing you to play those games, though, there are plenty of good games out there that aren't for Windows, it's just harder to find them.
Well, nobody has the right to distribute THEIR material without THEIR permission. Since everybody and their brother is fucking them over and pirating their music, they're going to do what they can to fight back, and I don't see how anyone could blame them.
Like I've said before, it's not fair for the vast majority of people to pirate things, and then piss and moan when the people they are ripping off push back.
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Yes, the US Shield! The myth that the United States of America does Everything for Everybody! The USA is the modern day Jesus Christ Superstar of nations!
I am sick of blind patriotism. Just because the United States does some things right, doesn't mean it does everything right. In fact, it does some things horribly, horribly wrong. Turning a blind eye to it is irresponsible, sheep.
They cap downstream so someone doesn't clog the line and slow other peoples' high speed connections down.
They cap upstream so people don't run commercial sites or pirate a ton of shit.
Sorry pal, wrong again. The world is not filled with "fact or fiction". For instance, I know that a flame is hot. I do not need to put my hand into it to learn of this first hand. I can learn through the teachings of others that this is so.
But you cannot learn "God exists" or "God wants you to do X". People simply do not know. The world is fact and fiction. It really is all 1's and 0's when you break everything down.
Wrong again bud. You laid out your personal opinion which happens to be not based on anything at all.
It's NOT A FUCKING OPINION. Are you reading ANYTHING I wrote? My thoughts happen to be based on this thing called "reality" which involves this thing called "evidence". Unlike whatever religion you or anyone else happens to practice.
You are mistaken, again. There is a big difference between faith and "blindly believing". In addition, religon is not based solely on faith. It's also based on historical documents and real historical people. Do documents and people not fall within the realm of fact?
Historical documents? Real historical people? I suppose you're going to tell me that the Bible is a historical document? And Jesus Christ was a real historical person? Or whatever book / prophet / messiah you like best. All of the "historical documents" that exist are analyses of various holy books... the holy books are no more provably correct than a Dr. Suess book.
Prove me wrong.
This is an incorrect assumption. The way I interact with others may be influenced by my religous beliefs, but is certainly not because of them. You do not have a firm graps on the principles of cause and effect.
Your actions are based on your entire belief system. Part of that system is religious belief. A very large part for some people. Therefore, religion influences behavior. So, what exactly am I missing?
It is obvious that you have a deep rooted blind faith in atheism, therefore you are the one acting irrationally. My religous beliefs stem from facts while yours stem from "blind faith".
My religious beliefs are the ones based in fact, ass.
It's really obvious you haven't been reading my posts. I said that AGNOSTIC is the only way to go, because nobody knows. You can't believe something just because it feels good -- that's not enough to constitute rationality. And, as a representative of every other blinded, religious, intelligence-affected person, you ignore what I say, and continue to insist that you're right.
Present facts, please, otherwise quit responding to my posts.
I think you meant "joint", not "finger"...
When you code, you are supposed to write documentation. In the Computer Science school of thought, documentation is part of coding.
Undocumented software is basically worthless as far as I'm concerned. Software should be easy enough to use without having to refer to the documentation often, but the documentation should be there in case I need to find something, and quickly.
And you're right, it is restrictive. But if that restrictiveness increases the distribution's quality, so it's fine by me.
AND, if you're in such a hurry to use undocumented crap software, you can always just compile the source code and off you go, who needs a Debian package anyway.
They are wrong for acting on irrational and illogical beliefs. It affects me. They affect me. Therefore it is perfectly within my rights to complain about it.
Religion is illogical and irrational. Sorry, that's the way it is. Faith is belief without evidence, and by its very definition is illogical! Yet, we continue to allow millions of people to act irrationally.
I don't have to respect beliefs. I respect truth.
Food for thought: Assuming you are in the US, the money in your pocket right now says "In God we Trust".
The US Gov't forces religion on its people. They do so with the money, with the pledge of allegiance... and who the hell knows what other crap Bush is going to pull with his faith-based initiatives.
I don't understand why you brought that up.
This statement is in quite bad taste, and is just plain incorrect. Whatever religon you believe in is the correct one for you.
Actually, you are incorrect. The world is composed of two things -- FACT and FICTION. If you don't know the FACT, you could very well be believing FICTION. It is completely illogical to believe you know the answers to things that yield incomplete information -- especially religion -- and therefore make a "choice". It is illogical to choose. For the record, if we had complete information about the realm of religion, there would only be ONE CORRECT RELIGION. That means that EVERY OTHER RELIGION IS WRONG. So quite frankly, your view -- which millions of other people share -- is on shaky ground from the very start, and borders on insane.
If you choose not to believe in any religon, that is also your choice. But to say that anyone who has religous beliefs is irrational and illogical is just plain ignorant.
Actually, I just laid out a rational, logical argument that argues why religious belief is irrational and illogical. Go figure!
Perhaps it is you who is simply uneducated in religons of the world, hence your abstination from beliefs.
Perhaps I realize that I *don't* know the answer, and have realized that it is irresponsible, irrational, immoral, and illogical to blindly believe something based on very, very incomplete information.
Not sure where you pulled "quite frankly unfair to everybody you interact with" but it is this ignorance and buffoonery that causes religous tension.
How you interact with other people is based on your belief system. If your belief system is unsound, your interactions with other people -- even if they result in the correct action -- are still being done for the wrong reason. Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is bad. Doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons is even worse. Therefore, acting irrationally on other people is unfair to them.
I suggest you spend some time in the religous section of a library simply for the puspose of educating yourself in a subject which you are obviously misinformed.
It is obvious I have put more thought into this than you ever have.
Did anyone else read "motherfuckers"?
The reason is that your brain has a habit of correcting things for you.
I saw this on Mr. Wizard once: He held up a card that said "Dog is Man's Best Fiend."
Some of you probably read that wrong; read it again to be sure.
You're used to seeing/hearing/saying "Dog is Man's Best Friend" that your brain may have assumed that was on the screen.
Your brain is wired to skip over mistakes like that... it helps you parse the sentence more efficiently!
We are all products of our environments.
White people are raised to fear/hate black people in the USA.
Says a lot about how much you know, huh?
By the way, I'M WHITE.
Freedom of religion is absolutely ridiculous. Millions of people with hundreds of (sometimes drastically) different belief systems cannot co-exist peacefully for any length of time. Different beliefs, esp. those as deeply-rooted (read: irrational) as religious beliefs invariably get forced upon others, etc. etc.
Any religion that professes to know the truth is automatically wrong. The only correct religion with the knowledge we have is "agnostic". To follow anything else is irrational, illogical, and quite frankly unfair to everybody you interact with.
Why not try to help fix the mess? Running away is irresponsible.
Don't buy anything from them. The less money they have, the fewer lawsuits they'll be able to bring in regard to these ridiculous patents (and the less able they'll be to defend themselves from lawsuits regarding the patents.)
How is it that reporters never get nailed for criminal trespass?
The problem, as I see it, is that people don't respect the copy rights that other people have, because it's easy to copy the music. If someone had to steal CD's, they wouldn't do it. I wonder why people think it's wrong to walk into a music store and take things, but think it's perfectly acceptable to copy thousands of tracks and send them to people all over the world.
You gave attitude, you received attitude -- don't bitch about it if you're going to do it yourself.
The future will be different from the present; but we are discussing the present. That is, musicians being able to make a living, by present standards, doing what they do. So, I fail to see your point.
When was Mozart alive? How much has the world changed since then?
I guess we can all be hunter-gatherers and live until we're 90 now right? I'm sure that will pay the healthcare bills.
Seriously, do you even think before you post?
It's funny that you should avoid the other points in my argument.
Limited time. And it's not just for authors/artists. It's for the people that own the copyright; if I commission someone to paint a portrait of me, I hold the copyright to the portrait, there's nothing unfair about that. Same holds in the record biz.
I disagree with perpetual copyrights. And they don't let artists starve -- no one made the artists sign the contract. Get over it already. They DECIDED to sign their contracts. They made a CHOICE. They have to live by that, that's not your call to make, it was their call.
And, you are a pirate. So there.
Well, agree all you want, but if you paid attention in history class, there is a reason money came to be, and there are about a billion reasons why it is better than not having it.
Did anyone hold a gun to their head and force them to sign the contract? No.
Did anyone force them to work as a musician to earn a living? No.
Are there other options? Yes.
Here's one.
It's just like choosing an operating system. No one forces you to use Windows XP, but you need it if you want to play all the latest and greatest major label PC games. No one is forcing you to play those games, though, there are plenty of good games out there that aren't for Windows, it's just harder to find them.
Well, nobody has the right to distribute THEIR material without THEIR permission. Since everybody and their brother is fucking them over and pirating their music, they're going to do what they can to fight back, and I don't see how anyone could blame them.
Like I've said before, it's not fair for the vast majority of people to pirate things, and then piss and moan when the people they are ripping off push back.
lots of people have forgotten what a copyright is.
First and foremost, the pirates.
Are you going to pay the amount of money they need to make a living doing music for a band you've never heard of before? No.