"So the #1 greenhouse polluter (USA) and it's sycophant underling (Australia) refused to sign because infrastructure would be crippled. Why then did every other developed nation in the world sign up?"
To *look* like they gave a shit. We all signed up but we didn't DO anything. The US should have just done what Canada did, sign the damn thing and then ignore it. The greenies couldn't bash the US for not signing Kyoto and when they tried to bash for non-complience the US could just say - we're doing as well or better than most of the other signatories (which they are)
Chicken and egg? Go d'oh yourself. Dude - did you not read my post? Don't you get it? We have years/gigabytes of historical files in M$(and WP) formats. I'm not talking about your English essay here. Years. Of stuff. Presentations. Business plans. Manuals. We have an accountant who can't function without excel (he barely functions with it) If OO can't print or edit these kind of things then I can't use OO.
It's not for lack of trying. I even had the boss and ceo emailing files to each other in OO native formats (sounds of angel trumpets blaring). But my above post is just a short synopsis of the troubles I've had, and the work lost or redone due to incompatibility with M$. Take a look at all the comments here and try hard to stop that knee from jerking as you react. WE ALL WANT RID THE WORLD OF THE EVIL EMPIRE. But, unfortunately, OO was not a weapon of M$ destruction.
(in)Compatibility with MS Ofice has been the deal breaker for OO at my workplace.
I was overjoyed about a year ago when the word came down from our new CEO that we should try to wean ourselves off M$ Office. I had been trying to do that for 5 years, but he did it in one email.
I have, sorry to say, switched back. First, it was trying to print Excel files from Calc. I just can't afford all that wasted paper. Excel went back on my machine.
Then I had to update a manual written in Word. Writer (00 v.2) ate ALL the graphics in the entire manual and went on to balls-up the fonts and formatting. I reported the error and got a message back from the coder that this bug would be fixed in the next release - and that my report was one of hundreds. So Word went back on my machine.
Then there was the boss's powerpoint. He worked all day, built this file in Presenter (or whatever it's called), unfortunately he saved it in ppt format instead of the native format. Went back to it the next day. WHAT A MESS! Every slide had to be redone. Powerpoint went back on his and my machines.
We use Access databases all the time. Base has never been up to the tasks we throw at it, or compatible enough to replace Access.
So that's my sad story of trying to convert an office to OO. I know it's mostly not OO's fault (except for the graphic-eating bug), and their word processor and presentation software is much easier to use (IMHO) than M$'s bizarre shite, but until EVERBODY stops using M$, I'm stuck with it. (at least we haven't bought a NEW version of Office - and have no plans to - just reinstalled the ol' 2000 version)
Yes, women do post on/. We are 3% of the population here, after all. If that makes me a witch -- well, I've been called worse.
But who says a man can't get a manicure. Maybe (s)he's one of those "metro-sexuals" I keep hearing about (I think they used to be called "sensitive new-age guys" back in the 90's)
I read this thread with interest, as the DH has been thinking of getting a big hd plasma tv. I will be one who has to figure out the tech stuff. He'll be happy as long as hockey looks ok.
5 years of listening to ranting, whining and screaming and fixing physically abused computers while MSOffice went on behaving weirdly and documents went on breaking and Word went on formatting things any old way it wanted to.
Every time I suggested switching to Star Office, or Wordperfect (which is what I've always used), or eventually Open Office I was told "We HAVE to use this POS because everybody else does".
Two months ago our new CEO sent out an email suggesting that we should try to "break our dependance" on Microsoft Office due to a sharp increase in licensing costs. Within minutes I'm installing OO everywhere and my manager is smelling like a rose as he gets to recommend OO to the CEO and be the first one to send him documents in the new format.
5 years it took, but miracles can happen!
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Here I am! (One of the 3% of female/.ers)
Loved the old side scrolling Duke Nukem. Can't say I ever felt any attraction to him. On the whole, FPS bore me to tears - I played original Wolfenstien back in what? 1993/4? and have never really cared for any since - Doom Quake whatever just more of the same.
The game I have played the most, in all its forms, is Civilization. No large-breasted women or body-builder guys. The game I have played additively since I got it for Christmas is Sid Meier's Pirates! (Sid is GOD-did I mention that?)
Pirates! does feature a variety of large breasted women in those 18th century corsets that just make the ole boobs pop right out. I don't find them the least attractive (despite rumours to the contrary I am not a lesbian) but I must admit (shhhhh- don't tell anybody) I find my handsome young swashbuckler character strangely attractive. It's not his Arnie-like build (he is quite skinny actually), or that he stops and thinks about stuff (I do that for him). I think it's the pony-tail and tall boots. Or maybe the way he handles his sword;-) Arrrrrrrrr. Shiver me timbers.
I can't imagine the US government abusing sailors to the same extent they have private pilots . . . Of course, when there are no private pilots left, they'll eventually work their way down the list and eliminate the rights of sailors too.
Sailors are a little harder to abuse then private pilots. Because when that day comes -- I hoist the jolly roger.
Arrrrrrrrrr, where's me parrot?
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"So the #1 greenhouse polluter (USA) and it's sycophant underling (Australia) refused to sign because infrastructure would be crippled. Why then did every other developed nation in the world sign up?"
To *look* like they gave a shit. We all signed up but we didn't DO anything. The US should have just done what Canada did, sign the damn thing and then ignore it. The greenies couldn't bash the US for not signing Kyoto and when they tried to bash for non-complience the US could just say - we're doing as well or better than most of the other signatories (which they are)
Chicken and egg? Go d'oh yourself.
Dude - did you not read my post?
Don't you get it?
We have years/gigabytes of historical files in M$(and WP) formats. I'm not talking about your English essay here. Years. Of stuff. Presentations. Business plans. Manuals.
We have an accountant who can't function without excel (he barely functions with it)
If OO can't print or edit these kind of things then I can't use OO.
It's not for lack of trying. I even had the boss and ceo emailing files to each other in OO native formats (sounds of angel trumpets blaring). But my above post is just a short synopsis of the troubles I've had, and the work lost or redone due to incompatibility with M$. Take a look at all the comments here and try hard to stop that knee from jerking as you react. WE ALL WANT RID THE WORLD OF THE EVIL EMPIRE. But, unfortunately, OO was not a weapon of M$ destruction.
(in)Compatibility with MS Ofice has been the deal breaker for OO at my workplace.
I was overjoyed about a year ago when the word came down from our new CEO that we should try to wean ourselves off M$ Office. I had been trying to do that for 5 years, but he did it in one email.
I have, sorry to say, switched back. First, it was trying to print Excel files from Calc. I just can't afford all that wasted paper. Excel went back on my machine.
Then I had to update a manual written in Word. Writer (00 v.2) ate ALL the graphics in the entire manual and went on to balls-up the fonts and formatting. I reported the error and got a message back from the coder that this bug would be fixed in the next release - and that my report was one of hundreds. So Word went back on my machine.
Then there was the boss's powerpoint. He worked all day, built this file in Presenter (or whatever it's called), unfortunately he saved it in ppt format instead of the native format. Went back to it the next day. WHAT A MESS! Every slide had to be redone. Powerpoint went back on his and my machines.
We use Access databases all the time. Base has never been up to the tasks we throw at it, or compatible enough to replace Access.
So that's my sad story of trying to convert an office to OO. I know it's mostly not OO's fault (except for the graphic-eating bug), and their word processor and presentation software is much easier to use (IMHO) than M$'s bizarre shite, but until EVERBODY stops using M$, I'm stuck with it. (at least we haven't bought a NEW version of Office - and have no plans to - just reinstalled the ol' 2000 version)
Stella
Yes, women do post on /. We are 3% of the population here, after all. If that makes me a witch -- well, I've been called worse.
But who says a man can't get a manicure. Maybe (s)he's one of those "metro-sexuals" I keep hearing about (I think they used to be called "sensitive new-age guys" back in the 90's)
I read this thread with interest, as the DH has been thinking of getting a big hd plasma tv. I will be one who has to figure out the tech stuff. He'll be happy as long as hockey looks ok.
It took me 5 years.
5 years of listening to ranting, whining and screaming and fixing physically abused computers while MSOffice went on behaving weirdly and documents went on breaking and Word went on formatting things any old way it wanted to.
Every time I suggested switching to Star Office, or Wordperfect (which is what I've always used), or eventually Open Office I was told "We HAVE to use this POS because everybody else does".
Two months ago our new CEO sent out an email suggesting that we should try to "break our dependance" on Microsoft Office due to a sharp increase in licensing costs. Within minutes I'm installing OO everywhere and my manager is smelling like a rose as he gets to recommend OO to the CEO and be the first one to send him documents in the new format.
5 years it took, but miracles can happen!
Here I am! (One of the 3% of female /.ers)
;-) Arrrrrrrrr. Shiver me timbers.
Loved the old side scrolling Duke Nukem. Can't say I ever felt any attraction to him. On the whole, FPS bore me to tears - I played original Wolfenstien back in what? 1993/4? and have never really cared for any since - Doom Quake whatever just more of the same.
The game I have played the most, in all its forms, is Civilization. No large-breasted women or body-builder guys. The game I have played additively since I got it for Christmas is Sid Meier's Pirates! (Sid is GOD-did I mention that?)
Pirates! does feature a variety of large breasted women in those 18th century corsets that just make the ole boobs pop right out. I don't find them the least attractive (despite rumours to the contrary I am not a lesbian) but I must admit (shhhhh- don't tell anybody) I find my handsome young swashbuckler character strangely attractive. It's not his Arnie-like build (he is quite skinny actually), or that he stops and thinks about stuff (I do that for him). I think it's the pony-tail and tall boots. Or maybe the way he handles his sword
Stella
I can't imagine the US government abusing sailors to the same extent they have private pilots . . . Of course, when there are no private pilots left, they'll eventually work their way down the list and eliminate the rights of sailors too.
Sailors are a little harder to abuse then private pilots. Because when that day comes -- I hoist the jolly roger.
Arrrrrrrrrr, where's me parrot?
I use a GPS when I fly and increasingly when I drive.
I use it sailing.
And with GWB back in the Whitehouse, I'm really glad I'm getting a sextant for Christmas.
Now all I need is a star to steer her by . .