Going to school to get a good job is not longer a reasonable expectation.
And it doesn't make sense. We are spending the money. If we could spend the same money to keep people out of prison, we would simply have a better life and culture here in the US. But as tone of your comment suggests, we will perpetuate this "every man for himself" mentality that got us where we are. Reality is far different from your notion of reality. Reality says that people give up on themselves long before the 12 years of public school are over. Their expectations of life have been defined for themselves already.
Prisons decrease earning potential even after getting out. That's another problem we are failing to face. Once a person has a prison record, they are black-balled for life. It's okay if prison were a deterrent to crime. For some people, it's a rite of passage.
Government doesn't "foot the bill." *WE* foot the bill. They just decide where the bills go. Once again, if the money that goes to prisons went to schools, even in part, it could make a huge difference in the long run. The problem is it wouldn't make a difference for several election cycles. And no way a republicrat will vote in money for schools instead of prisons when the opposing party would get the glory.
Once a person has gone to prison, they are no longer full citizens. They lose the right to vote and to bear arms.... legally. We have decided their career for them.
With everything ever written both protected by copyright and patents, what is this guy proposing? I think it's clear that only companies with big legal budgets can be allowed to have coders on staff. Everyone else is a risk.
Every politician who responds in this way to some new technoloigy needs to be labeled a Knee-Jerk. Immediately calling for legislation for anything they don't understand.
But before you know it, pretty much anything which can be used in the creation of a weapon is being tracked, tagged, limited and reported in some way. It's ridiculous.
And all those soccer moms and people like that need to get a grip on reality. I read a story written in part by an actual Kosovo survivor. The things people consider "for safety" don't even come close to serving that purpose. Credit cards? Mobile phones for calling police?
As a clue as to what might happen, if anyone lives in an area where snow has been known to close down the roads in an area, think of how long after the weather reports air before various grocery items completely disappear from the store shelves. Now imagine when that outage of supplies lasts more than a week. I don't think it's necessary to go into details beyond that, but having the ability to defend one's self against thugs and invaders will mean the difference between surviving and not.
And we're concerned about a few idiots? The food we eat kills more people -- let's get serious about food before we move on to an extreme minority killer like bullets fired from home-made guns which are more likely to kill the user.
Your confusion is not without merit. It is the LIE whose days are numbered. There is no such thing as a "cheap subsidized phone." When they sell you a phone "cheap" (and it is never cheap actually) is more than paid for in contract requirements which include overpriced data plans and all the like. When given the option, many people will pay for what they use and even opt out of data plans entirely. Wfi is everywhere.
People have been sold bad math as truth for so long that this change represents "something new."
Our pop, impatient "gotta have it now" while at the same time "I'll wait for the movie because reading is too time consuming" mentality is destroying not just our own brain cells, but reducung the capacity and potention of our children.
I'm too tired to think about this, but I'm pretty sure it's tragic.
We're in a market of change right now. And unless the whole use [purpose] is new, using a new OS will be hevily resisted.
This is why Android is increasingly popular. Users don't have a full set of expectations defined and so there is nothing to compare or contrast or to give up or lose or miss out on. Well, that's not entirely true -- Apple iOS devices are kind of a comparison, but the things which are exclusive to iOS are becoming fewer to be sure. And as far as I, personally, am concerned Android devices do more for me than iOS. (I can run software which interfaces with my car over bluetooth! That's pretty cool stuff I can't do with iOS unless the device is jailbroken.)
Anyway, I think Chromebook is a dumb idea. It should have been an Android book. People will be more accepting of it and all that. The fact that there is this "computer thing" that doesn't quite do what people expect is confusing, frustrating and disappointing. But people have expectations formed about Android and might be excited to have an "android device with a keyboard.":) It's all about the angle of approach isn't it?
My 6 year old loves to doodle with his crayons. Lately, I've been having him draw money. So far, the good ones are really rare. So I figure they are probably worth a substantial amount of money. I'm going to start releasing them as currency soon. I'm also working out a deal with Paypal to accept them.
The subject is misleading as to my stance on the issue.
The fact that they want to prepend "electronic" to the notion of privacy is disgusting. It's as if the medium has any bearing on the question of 4th amendment rights. It doesn't and shouldn't.
The nature of the medium itself could b a determining factor, but the fact is that email, for example, has a sender and an intended recipient. It is transmitted over the public internet, of course, but is this really so different than the US Mail which is already unquestionably protected under the 4th?
Interesting thought. 3D printing and metal milling would definitely be some tools which would be useful to have. After all, in standard "mission control" fashion, unforeseen issues could be resolved with some instructions and possibly uploaded data for the fabrication devices.
If I recall correctly, a trip of that amount of time and distance will expose people to all sorts of life shortening types of energy. I'm not sure I see the point of that trip without protection from all of that. Is there SPF-2000 yet?
...and then we all die of lack of resources... eventually resorting to soylent green.
It seems no matter how you imagine it, things come to a head somewhere, somehow. Resources, population, space... it's all quite finite. And even if somewhere along the way, we overcome space, population and resources problem, what will we have become? Space bacteria?
Man's ability to overcome predators enabled his numbers to grow at enormous rates. Even when man kills man for sport, religion or just plain domination, we can't keep our numbers under control. And now attempting to overcome aging and death? What good can come of this? We've already all but destroyed this world. Perhaps if the galaxy is fortunate, we will all die before we expand beyond this planet. Should we find another, I have no doubt we will kill it as well and any life that lives there. It is simply not in our nature to get along in peace and in balance.
It's mostly about being a rich bastard and keeping it because you can't take it with you.
And frankly, the richer the few get, the more miserable the many get and it's a matter of simple economics and of human history. The defense of the rich must always come from the power of or permission of the government. And when that becomes the norm, you end up with what we have today.
They will have to learn the hard way. In the supply vs. demad sense, their supply of greed is without limits while the demand certainly has limits.
GiMP should be looking more and more attractive to professionals as this sort of thing goes. All the other bits and pieces of creative suite needs replacement too but not being made by the same maker isn't all that bad so long as their formats are standards compliant and readable amongst one another. I've used Inkscape and loved it though Illustrator has some advantages -- But then again, Inkscape is self-determined to use SVG as its native format and as such is limited to the powers of SVG standards... more or less.
I'd say the market is ready to migrate away from proprietary.
I get the feeling that without a proper regulation of cellular growth and regeneration, we would end up with so many tumors that life wouldn't be worth living.
Just spit-balling here, but I think we'd better understand aging before we start tinkering with it.
There *ARE* natural things we can do to live longer, happier and healthier and we have done much of it already. But there are also some things we are doing which result in more miserable lives as well. We need to stop that but it's not a topic that works well with this one. I think, in the end, we need to plan to die.
And isn't that one of the great things about humanity? That we die? No one jackass can dominate the world or a region forever. "Families" can do that for a bit longer and so can groups, but it requires a collection of like-minded individuals which is something pretty hard to maintain if history is any indication. And I think that is it precisely because we know we will die that we can give up on this notion that we much control and dominate everyone and everything. Many people haven't gotten the memo yet, but it is my hope that one day they will... just as soon as they give up on religion and using religion as a tool to control others.
You're making up your own standards and definitions. That's kind of what I was getting at. There's no truly objective standard out there. There are bunches of subjective generalities out there though.
But think about what this lack of solid definitions and standards means now and going forward. The whole world now depends on what IT technologists do and yet there are few if any real standards. There are reputations and beliefs. Even if someone has multiple masters and even PhDs, what does it mean?!
I know what *I* am and I know few people are what I am. In contrast, I know what I see a lot of -- cert chasers and preachers. (I actually had to explain what DNS hijacking is to our highly paid "Senior IT security analyst." who is supposed to carry a CISSP certification)
We need something that people can't bullshit their way through. People can't go around calling themselves "engineers" or "accountants" or "doctors" or "attorneys" without some serious paper backing them. "IT paper" currently isn't it.
Actually, in the case of running business, there are a lot of "victims" in situations like this. But the business is entrusted with a lot of things and they have been show to violate that trust when they allow things like this to happen. Sometimes these types of trusts are enforced by law such as SOX or HIPPA. Other times it's merely an expectation for which a law may not have yet been written.
I have been mulling over this fact for a while now and some conclusions have been forming that I find to be extremely disturbing.
1. Degrees in "IT" are worthless in that they do not pertain particularly well with technology as it seems to evolve very quickly. 2. Degrees in "IT" are worthless because there is no one standard like there is with law and medicine. 3. As a resort against the first two problems, the industry has favored "certifications" but the problem with that is they become little more than fancy product endorsements which, as many of us know, does not guarantee real knowledge or understanding, but only guarantees that someone has been listed as passing a test in some database somewhere.
I think item 3 really needs to be appreciated. It's all about the cert isn't it? And these certs are in specific brands and ranges of products... often specific products. Imagine (warning-- car analogy) you were pulled over by a cop and you are asked for your license to drive. You are then arrested because your license does not cover you make or model of the car you are driving.
Obviously that doesn't happen because a driver's license covers general knowledge and understanding of the rules of the road and knowledge of standards about driving and signage and the like.
Why can't we have such standards for IT? Well, for starters, companies like Microsoft can't handle standards. They have to make everything proprietary so that they can manipulate and dominate markets. This is a similar problem with Cisco though they do it all to a much lesser degree and at times use different terminology instead of different technology. (Though clearly proprietary Cisco protocols exist.)
For all of those people who have been a bit confused about the issue of standards and especially "open" standards, this may be a key issue which might help you understand why standards are so important. At present, standards are quite literally owned by business entities in part or in whole and the right to live by them come at a price... or several prices.
As a result of all of this, practitioners of IT are not all the same and can't be held to any given standard of any sort whether it is conduct or knowledge or standards of practice.
IT People are not "Professionals" as much as we would like to think we are. We can behave that way. We can dress that way. We can follow "standards" but which ones? There are so many. And so many products to endorse along the way. We are as "professional" as NASCAR drivers with dozens of logos plastered on our resumes.
How did this all happen? We can thank the likes of Microsoft for this. And until real standards are adopted world-wide, we cannot have a way forward out of this mess. Thanks to Microsoft's [successful] efforts to corrupt ISO standards, even "standards compliance" may not be an option. And who does it harm?
It harms YOU if you want to be considered to be "Professional."
People confuse "privacy" with the discomfort of knowing there is something [potentially] recording them and therefore feel compelled to inhibit natural behavior.
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Going to school to get a good job is not longer a reasonable expectation.
And it doesn't make sense. We are spending the money. If we could spend the same money to keep people out of prison, we would simply have a better life and culture here in the US. But as tone of your comment suggests, we will perpetuate this "every man for himself" mentality that got us where we are. Reality is far different from your notion of reality. Reality says that people give up on themselves long before the 12 years of public school are over. Their expectations of life have been defined for themselves already.
Prisons decrease earning potential even after getting out. That's another problem we are failing to face. Once a person has a prison record, they are black-balled for life. It's okay if prison were a deterrent to crime. For some people, it's a rite of passage.
Government doesn't "foot the bill." *WE* foot the bill. They just decide where the bills go. Once again, if the money that goes to prisons went to schools, even in part, it could make a huge difference in the long run. The problem is it wouldn't make a difference for several election cycles. And no way a republicrat will vote in money for schools instead of prisons when the opposing party would get the glory.
Once a person has gone to prison, they are no longer full citizens. They lose the right to vote and to bear arms.... legally. We have decided their career for them.
I read somewhere...
We spend more per capita on prisons than we do on school. Something it really messed up with our priorities.
With everything ever written both protected by copyright and patents, what is this guy proposing? I think it's clear that only companies with big legal budgets can be allowed to have coders on staff. Everyone else is a risk.
It should read:
Congressional 'contributors' want federal government to sell 1755-1780 MHz Spectrum band
Jailbreak, inject a new encryption key?
Every politician who responds in this way to some new technoloigy needs to be labeled a Knee-Jerk. Immediately calling for legislation for anything they don't understand.
But before you know it, pretty much anything which can be used in the creation of a weapon is being tracked, tagged, limited and reported in some way. It's ridiculous.
And all those soccer moms and people like that need to get a grip on reality. I read a story written in part by an actual Kosovo survivor. The things people consider "for safety" don't even come close to serving that purpose. Credit cards? Mobile phones for calling police?
As a clue as to what might happen, if anyone lives in an area where snow has been known to close down the roads in an area, think of how long after the weather reports air before various grocery items completely disappear from the store shelves. Now imagine when that outage of supplies lasts more than a week. I don't think it's necessary to go into details beyond that, but having the ability to defend one's self against thugs and invaders will mean the difference between surviving and not.
And we're concerned about a few idiots? The food we eat kills more people -- let's get serious about food before we move on to an extreme minority killer like bullets fired from home-made guns which are more likely to kill the user.
Your confusion is not without merit. It is the LIE whose days are numbered. There is no such thing as a "cheap subsidized phone." When they sell you a phone "cheap" (and it is never cheap actually) is more than paid for in contract requirements which include overpriced data plans and all the like. When given the option, many people will pay for what they use and even opt out of data plans entirely. Wfi is everywhere.
People have been sold bad math as truth for so long that this change represents "something new."
Our pop, impatient "gotta have it now" while at the same time "I'll wait for the movie because reading is too time consuming" mentality is destroying not just our own brain cells, but reducung the capacity and potention of our children.
I'm too tired to think about this, but I'm pretty sure it's tragic.
I think the general consumer needs to know who Stallman is. I seriously doubt they do.
We're in a market of change right now. And unless the whole use [purpose] is new, using a new OS will be hevily resisted.
This is why Android is increasingly popular. Users don't have a full set of expectations defined and so there is nothing to compare or contrast or to give up or lose or miss out on. Well, that's not entirely true -- Apple iOS devices are kind of a comparison, but the things which are exclusive to iOS are becoming fewer to be sure. And as far as I, personally, am concerned Android devices do more for me than iOS. (I can run software which interfaces with my car over bluetooth! That's pretty cool stuff I can't do with iOS unless the device is jailbroken.)
Anyway, I think Chromebook is a dumb idea. It should have been an Android book. People will be more accepting of it and all that. The fact that there is this "computer thing" that doesn't quite do what people expect is confusing, frustrating and disappointing. But people have expectations formed about Android and might be excited to have an "android device with a keyboard." :) It's all about the angle of approach isn't it?
My 6 year old loves to doodle with his crayons. Lately, I've been having him draw money. So far, the good ones are really rare. So I figure they are probably worth a substantial amount of money. I'm going to start releasing them as currency soon. I'm also working out a deal with Paypal to accept them.
I would want Luke Skywalker's hand if I was unfortunate enough to lose a hand or two.
The subject is misleading as to my stance on the issue.
The fact that they want to prepend "electronic" to the notion of privacy is disgusting. It's as if the medium has any bearing on the question of 4th amendment rights. It doesn't and shouldn't.
The nature of the medium itself could b a determining factor, but the fact is that email, for example, has a sender and an intended recipient. It is transmitted over the public internet, of course, but is this really so different than the US Mail which is already unquestionably protected under the 4th?
Interesting thought. 3D printing and metal milling would definitely be some tools which would be useful to have. After all, in standard "mission control" fashion, unforeseen issues could be resolved with some instructions and possibly uploaded data for the fabrication devices.
If I recall correctly, a trip of that amount of time and distance will expose people to all sorts of life shortening types of energy. I'm not sure I see the point of that trip without protection from all of that. Is there SPF-2000 yet?
...and then we all die of lack of resources... eventually resorting to soylent green.
It seems no matter how you imagine it, things come to a head somewhere, somehow. Resources, population, space... it's all quite finite. And even if somewhere along the way, we overcome space, population and resources problem, what will we have become? Space bacteria?
Man's ability to overcome predators enabled his numbers to grow at enormous rates. Even when man kills man for sport, religion or just plain domination, we can't keep our numbers under control. And now attempting to overcome aging and death? What good can come of this? We've already all but destroyed this world. Perhaps if the galaxy is fortunate, we will all die before we expand beyond this planet. Should we find another, I have no doubt we will kill it as well and any life that lives there. It is simply not in our nature to get along in peace and in balance.
And aren't you speaking as if all people would have equal access to immortality? I'm pretty sure we wouldn't.
It's mostly about being a rich bastard and keeping it because you can't take it with you.
And frankly, the richer the few get, the more miserable the many get and it's a matter of simple economics and of human history. The defense of the rich must always come from the power of or permission of the government. And when that becomes the norm, you end up with what we have today.
They will have to learn the hard way. In the supply vs. demad sense, their supply of greed is without limits while the demand certainly has limits.
GiMP should be looking more and more attractive to professionals as this sort of thing goes. All the other bits and pieces of creative suite needs replacement too but not being made by the same maker isn't all that bad so long as their formats are standards compliant and readable amongst one another. I've used Inkscape and loved it though Illustrator has some advantages -- But then again, Inkscape is self-determined to use SVG as its native format and as such is limited to the powers of SVG standards... more or less.
I'd say the market is ready to migrate away from proprietary.
I get the feeling that without a proper regulation of cellular growth and regeneration, we would end up with so many tumors that life wouldn't be worth living.
Just spit-balling here, but I think we'd better understand aging before we start tinkering with it.
There *ARE* natural things we can do to live longer, happier and healthier and we have done much of it already. But there are also some things we are doing which result in more miserable lives as well. We need to stop that but it's not a topic that works well with this one. I think, in the end, we need to plan to die.
And isn't that one of the great things about humanity? That we die? No one jackass can dominate the world or a region forever. "Families" can do that for a bit longer and so can groups, but it requires a collection of like-minded individuals which is something pretty hard to maintain if history is any indication. And I think that is it precisely because we know we will die that we can give up on this notion that we much control and dominate everyone and everything. Many people haven't gotten the memo yet, but it is my hope that one day they will... just as soon as they give up on religion and using religion as a tool to control others.
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Thanks!
You're making up your own standards and definitions. That's kind of what I was getting at. There's no truly objective standard out there. There are bunches of subjective generalities out there though.
But think about what this lack of solid definitions and standards means now and going forward. The whole world now depends on what IT technologists do and yet there are few if any real standards. There are reputations and beliefs. Even if someone has multiple masters and even PhDs, what does it mean?!
I know what *I* am and I know few people are what I am. In contrast, I know what I see a lot of -- cert chasers and preachers. (I actually had to explain what DNS hijacking is to our highly paid "Senior IT security analyst." who is supposed to carry a CISSP certification)
We need something that people can't bullshit their way through. People can't go around calling themselves "engineers" or "accountants" or "doctors" or "attorneys" without some serious paper backing them. "IT paper" currently isn't it.
Actually, in the case of running business, there are a lot of "victims" in situations like this. But the business is entrusted with a lot of things and they have been show to violate that trust when they allow things like this to happen. Sometimes these types of trusts are enforced by law such as SOX or HIPPA. Other times it's merely an expectation for which a law may not have yet been written.
I have been mulling over this fact for a while now and some conclusions have been forming that I find to be extremely disturbing.
1. Degrees in "IT" are worthless in that they do not pertain particularly well with technology as it seems to evolve very quickly.
2. Degrees in "IT" are worthless because there is no one standard like there is with law and medicine.
3. As a resort against the first two problems, the industry has favored "certifications" but the problem with that is they become little more than fancy product endorsements which, as many of us know, does not guarantee real knowledge or understanding, but only guarantees that someone has been listed as passing a test in some database somewhere.
I think item 3 really needs to be appreciated. It's all about the cert isn't it? And these certs are in specific brands and ranges of products... often specific products. Imagine (warning-- car analogy) you were pulled over by a cop and you are asked for your license to drive. You are then arrested because your license does not cover you make or model of the car you are driving.
Obviously that doesn't happen because a driver's license covers general knowledge and understanding of the rules of the road and knowledge of standards about driving and signage and the like.
Why can't we have such standards for IT? Well, for starters, companies like Microsoft can't handle standards. They have to make everything proprietary so that they can manipulate and dominate markets. This is a similar problem with Cisco though they do it all to a much lesser degree and at times use different terminology instead of different technology. (Though clearly proprietary Cisco protocols exist.)
For all of those people who have been a bit confused about the issue of standards and especially "open" standards, this may be a key issue which might help you understand why standards are so important. At present, standards are quite literally owned by business entities in part or in whole and the right to live by them come at a price... or several prices.
As a result of all of this, practitioners of IT are not all the same and can't be held to any given standard of any sort whether it is conduct or knowledge or standards of practice.
IT People are not "Professionals" as much as we would like to think we are. We can behave that way. We can dress that way. We can follow "standards" but which ones? There are so many. And so many products to endorse along the way. We are as "professional" as NASCAR drivers with dozens of logos plastered on our resumes.
How did this all happen? We can thank the likes of Microsoft for this. And until real standards are adopted world-wide, we cannot have a way forward out of this mess. Thanks to Microsoft's [successful] efforts to corrupt ISO standards, even "standards compliance" may not be an option. And who does it harm?
It harms YOU if you want to be considered to be "Professional."
People confuse "privacy" with the discomfort of knowing there is something [potentially] recording them and therefore feel compelled to inhibit natural behavior.