Let me start with the origin of this fetish. The term bukkake is from the country of Japan. This term is actually not a sexual term at all. It was just brought out as a sexual term just recently (around the late 80s) That is the facts. I have heard so many times in the past of people saying that Bukkake is a ancient form of humiliation in Japan (this is NOT the case) It was actually just brought about in porno videos in Japan not too long ago. Now bukkake is growing and moving across the world rapidly.
True Term Meaning of Bukkake:
As I said earlier on the site that Bukkake is from Japan. The term of Bukkake is not a sexual term at all. After this explanation of bukkake hopefully you will understand why the term is not and why it could be a sexual term and fetish. So let me get on to the explanation of this hot new fetish racing through the American continent.
Bukkake in Japanese is base form of a verb, as it stands alone it is a noun. Bukkake means splash or heavy squirt. This being said let me give you an example of this misunderstood word:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketa.
I her water splashed
English:
I splashed her with the water.
When adding something to the end of bukkake such as: ta (makes it past tense) te(command, such as do it) or teru(present) or tai(want to do)
With that being said you could say as well:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
I her water want to splash
English:
I want to splash her with the water.
Either way you know what bukkake means as a word. believe it or not Japan even has a soup called bukkake udon. That's how much of a normal word it is. This soup has nothing to do with sex at all. It is a soup that Japanese call bukkake because it makes the soup sound more appetizing. They put a lot of vegetables and liquid in the soup, and by calling it bukkake it gives the feeling that the soup was made quickly and its fresh. As if they splashed the soup together. So maybe that will give you more of an insight as to the meaning or feeling of the word as well. Now on the the sexual meaning of it.....
Sexual Definition and History of Bukkake:
Now that you know that bukkake is a term from Japan that means splash, let me tell you why it is a new sexual fetish.
Around the late 80's early 90's a couple of video companies were trying to make videos that catered to facial and sperm lovers in Japan. So they decided to make videos that would consist of a girl getting facial after facial over and over again.There are many videos series and companies from Japan that do nothing but bukkake specific videos such as: Soft on Demand, Shuttle, M's video group, Deeps and a few more smaller companies (these videos are hard to find, but do exist). There are also a list of great sites and magazines that show this Japanese bukkake fetish such as: gotcum.com or the magazine Gal's shower. With this information you can do your own research as well as see examples to cure your own curiosity or sexual desire.
After these Japanese companies did such extreme facial and cum play videos, pictures and websites; the world caught on like a bon fire in the Evergreen Forest. Now all countries around the world are trying to emulate what the Japanese have done with this new and exciting sexual fetish.There are many American videos out as well other great key players of bukkake media such as Germany or the U.K. Although these countries have tried to emulate the Japanese, nobody does quite like Japan. so far Japan has the most exciting and extreme bukkake out.
The Japanese usually have a cute girl sit down in front of a line of up to 200 men. From there she awaits her huge sperm shower. These men repeatedly give her facial after facial. These is where the term bukkake is used because it is like they are splashing her with sperm!! This is not the usual facial you see at the end of a video but rather a shower of facials over and over again on a willing person. This is what makes the fetish a group project rather than just something that two people do together. With this being said, bukkake is not only a fetish but also a sort of orgy.
Now that the fetish on video has blown up so big there are many parties through out the U.S. being thrown by amateurs doing large bukkake parties. You can go to the yahoo groups and find many types of bukkake groups who throw parties all the time. Just do a little research and you are on your way to even being in one of these parties. You could be a giver or a receiver!!! Its up to you and it is no holds barred.
So now you know exactly what bukkake means. The true meaning (in the sexual term) is to splash or squirt a large amount of sperm on a girl (or man, if you are gay) This being said you are well on your way to knowing more about this great phenomenon that is bukkake. Go out and have a good time....but please make sure before you do any parties to make sure everyone is tested for STD's (although they say that aids is difficult to pass through saliva or semen) Be sure to use your best judgment, or just join a site or buy videos and be completely safe.
Different types of Bukkake:
There aren't really a lot of genres of Bukkake, but rather a different way or additions to them. Here is a simple list that I have come across in the past of this style of sex.
Forced Bukkake:
This is were a willing participant acts or seems unwilling to get a facial shower from several men.
Bukkake Summit: Here is where a person receives a bukkake shower but tilts their head back and opens their mouth for the full experience, trying to catch it all. At the end of all the facials the cum is collected and drank by the target of the bukkake shower.
Costume Play Bukkake: Here is where a party or video is made in a theme setting such as a girl wearing a schoolgirl uniform in a schoolroom. She would sit and suck off each guy in a line waiting. The men repeatedly cum in her mouth or face.
Dream Shower Bukkake: This is where the group of men have sex with the target. As one man is having sex the other men watch and cum on the girls face. When the man comes to his climax he cums on her face and the next man in line has sex with her. This one can last a while depending on how many men the target is willing to have sex with.
Snowball or Trade Bukkake: This style of bukkake has two or more targets, which when receive facials swap the cum from mouth to mouth or lick it off of eat others faces.
Cum Play Bukkake: Here is where many men cum on the girls face, after which she plays with the cum. Also the men cum on the girls food and the proceeds to eat the food with the sperm glazing.
The genre of Bukkake that I listed above are just a few. There are many more and there are many that are created everyday. You might want to check back to get new ideas on what can be done with bukkake. I will be listing more styles of bukkake in the future.
Lucas was wise to keep him out of the trailer. This is how he's going to lure people in. They'll figure he's not in the movie. Then once they've paid their $10, BAM! Fucked in the ass again.
I've noticed that Jon Katz is not reviewing this week's movie.
Please tell me you guys finally found an ounce of common sense and fired his ass. When the dot coms fall, those of us with real jobs will run into Jon on the street wearing pink lipstick and selling his ass for dope and headlines.
Let me start with the origin of this fetish. The term bukkake is from the country of Japan. This term is actually not a sexual term at all. It was just brought out as a sexual term just recently (around the late 80s) That is the facts. I have heard so many times in the past of people saying that Bukkake is a ancient form of humiliation in Japan (this is NOT the case) It was actually just brought about in porno videos in Japan not too long ago. Now bukkake is growing and moving across the world rapidly.
True Term Meaning of Bukkake:
As I said earlier on the site that Bukkake is from Japan. The term of Bukkake is not a sexual term at all. After this explanation of bukkake hopefully you will understand why the term is not and why it could be a sexual term and fetish. So let me get on to the explanation of this hot new fetish racing through the American continent.
Bukkake in Japanese is base form of a verb, as it stands alone it is a noun. Bukkake means splash or heavy squirt. This being said let me give you an example of this misunderstood word:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketa.
I her water splashed
English:
I splashed her with the water.
When adding something to the end of bukkake such as: ta (makes it past tense) te(command, such as do it) or teru(present) or tai(want to do)
With that being said you could say as well:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
I her water want to splash
English:
I want to splash her with the water.
Either way you know what bukkake means as a word. believe it or not Japan even has a soup called bukkake udon. That's how much of a normal word it is. This soup has nothing to do with sex at all. It is a soup that Japanese call bukkake because it makes the soup sound more appetizing. They put a lot of vegetables and liquid in the soup, and by calling it bukkake it gives the feeling that the soup was made quickly and its fresh. As if they splashed the soup together. So maybe that will give you more of an insight as to the meaning or feeling of the word as well. Now on the the sexual meaning of it.....
Sexual Definition and History of Bukkake:
Now that you know that bukkake is a term from Japan that means splash, let me tell you why it is a new sexual fetish.
Around the late 80's early 90's a couple of video companies were trying to make videos that catered to facial and sperm lovers in Japan. So they decided to make videos that would consist of a girl getting facial after facial over and over again.There are many videos series and companies from Japan that do nothing but bukkake specific videos such as: Soft on Demand, Shuttle, M's video group, Deeps and a few more smaller companies (these videos are hard to find, but do exist). There are also a list of great sites and magazines that show this Japanese bukkake fetish such as: gotcum.com or the magazine Gal's shower. With this information you can do your own research as well as see examples to cure your own curiosity or sexual desire.
After these Japanese companies did such extreme facial and cum play videos, pictures and websites; the world caught on like a bon fire in the Evergreen Forest. Now all countries around the world are trying to emulate what the Japanese have done with this new and exciting sexual fetish.There are many American videos out as well other great key players of bukkake media such as Germany or the U.K. Although these countries have tried to emulate the Japanese, nobody does quite like Japan. so far Japan has the most exciting and extreme bukkake out.
The Japanese usually have a cute girl sit down in front of a line of up to 200 men. From there she awaits her huge sperm shower. These men repeatedly give her facial after facial. These is where the term bukkake is used because it is like they are splashing her with sperm!! This is not the usual facial you see at the end of a video but rather a shower of facials over and over again on a willing person. This is what makes the fetish a group project rather than just something that two people do together. With this being said, bukkake is not only a fetish but also a sort of orgy.
Now that the fetish on video has blown up so big there are many parties through out the U.S. being thrown by amateurs doing large bukkake parties. You can go to the yahoo groups and find many types of bukkake groups who throw parties all the time. Just do a little research and you are on your way to even being in one of these parties. You could be a giver or a receiver!!! Its up to you and it is no holds barred.
So now you know exactly what bukkake means. The true meaning (in the sexual term) is to splash or squirt a large amount of sperm on a girl (or man, if you are gay) This being said you are well on your way to knowing more about this great phenomenon that is bukkake. Go out and have a good time....but please make sure before you do any parties to make sure everyone is tested for STD's (although they say that aids is difficult to pass through saliva or semen) Be sure to use your best judgment, or just join a site or buy videos and be completely safe.
Different types of Bukkake:
There aren't really a lot of genres of Bukkake, but rather a different way or additions to them. Here is a simple list that I have come across in the past of this style of sex.
Forced Bukkake:
This is were a willing participant acts or seems unwilling to get a facial shower from several men.
Bukkake Summit: Here is where a person receives a bukkake shower but tilts their head back and opens their mouth for the full experience, trying to catch it all. At the end of all the facials the cum is collected and drank by the target of the bukkake shower.
Costume Play Bukkake: Here is where a party or video is made in a theme setting such as a girl wearing a schoolgirl uniform in a schoolroom. She would sit and suck off each guy in a line waiting. The men repeatedly cum in her mouth or face.
Dream Shower Bukkake: This is where the group of men have sex with the target. As one man is having sex the other men watch and cum on the girls face. When the man comes to his climax he cums on her face and the next man in line has sex with her. This one can last a while depending on how many men the target is willing to have sex with.
Snowball or Trade Bukkake: This style of bukkake has two or more targets, which when receive facials swap the cum from mouth to mouth or lick it off of eat others faces.
Cum Play Bukkake: Here is where many men cum on the girls face, after which she plays with the cum. Also the men cum on the girls food and the proceeds to eat the food with the sperm glazing.
The genre of Bukkake that I listed above are just a few. There are many more and there are many that are created everyday. You might want to check back to get new ideas on what can be done with bukkake. I will be listing more styles of bukkake in the future.
"Since a politician never believes what he says, he is surprised when the interns will swallow the entire load without spilling a drop. Real fucking pros. -- Charles DeGaulle (aka Sevendust's new album fucking kicks ass)"
That's funny, so is mine.
I'm still posting here though, because Jamie doesn't know how to program. "Fight the ban!" and all that shit.
Sucks to be you.
...where that flaming fuckwit Wesley Crusher falls asleep while working on his nanotech science project and some of them get loose wreaking havoc on the ship?
No?
I didn't think so.
"Microsoft will be prohibited from retaliating against computer manufacturers or software developers for supporting or developing certain competing software."
Does this mean we might see more pre-loaded dual-boot systems in the future?
Slashdot Mirror
The Origins of Bukkake:
Let me start with the origin of this fetish. The term bukkake is from the country of Japan. This term is actually not a sexual term at all. It was just brought out as a sexual term just recently (around the late 80s) That is the facts. I have heard so many times in the past of people saying that Bukkake is a ancient form of humiliation in Japan (this is NOT the case) It was actually just brought about in porno videos in Japan not too long ago. Now bukkake is growing and moving across the world rapidly.
True Term Meaning of Bukkake:
As I said earlier on the site that Bukkake is from Japan. The term of Bukkake is not a sexual term at all. After this explanation of bukkake hopefully you will understand why the term is not and why it could be a sexual term and fetish. So let me get on to the explanation of this hot new fetish racing through the American continent.
Bukkake in Japanese is base form of a verb, as it stands alone it is a noun. Bukkake means splash or heavy squirt. This being said let me give you an example of this misunderstood word:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketa.
I her water splashed
English:
I splashed her with the water.
When adding something to the end of bukkake such as: ta (makes it past tense) te(command, such as do it) or teru(present) or tai(want to do)
With that being said you could say as well:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
I her water want to splash
English:
I want to splash her with the water.
Either way you know what bukkake means as a word. believe it or not Japan even has a soup called bukkake udon. That's how much of a normal word it is. This soup has nothing to do with sex at all. It is a soup that Japanese call bukkake because it makes the soup sound more appetizing. They put a lot of vegetables and liquid in the soup, and by calling it bukkake it gives the feeling that the soup was made quickly and its fresh. As if they splashed the soup together. So maybe that will give you more of an insight as to the meaning or feeling of the word as well. Now on the the sexual meaning of it.....
Sexual Definition and History of Bukkake:
Now that you know that bukkake is a term from Japan that means splash, let me tell you why it is a new sexual fetish.
Around the late 80's early 90's a couple of video companies were trying to make videos that catered to facial and sperm lovers in Japan. So they decided to make videos that would consist of a girl getting facial after facial over and over again.There are many videos series and companies from Japan that do nothing but bukkake specific videos such as: Soft on Demand, Shuttle, M's video group, Deeps and a few more smaller companies (these videos are hard to find, but do exist). There are also a list of great sites and magazines that show this Japanese bukkake fetish such as: gotcum.com or the magazine Gal's shower. With this information you can do your own research as well as see examples to cure your own curiosity or sexual desire.
After these Japanese companies did such extreme facial and cum play videos, pictures and websites; the world caught on like a bon fire in the Evergreen Forest. Now all countries around the world are trying to emulate what the Japanese have done with this new and exciting sexual fetish.There are many American videos out as well other great key players of bukkake media such as Germany or the U.K. Although these countries have tried to emulate the Japanese, nobody does quite like Japan. so far Japan has the most exciting and extreme bukkake out.
The Japanese usually have a cute girl sit down in front of a line of up to 200 men. From there she awaits her huge sperm shower. These men repeatedly give her facial after facial. These is where the term bukkake is used because it is like they are splashing her with sperm!! This is not the usual facial you see at the end of a video but rather a shower of facials over and over again on a willing person. This is what makes the fetish a group project rather than just something that two people do together. With this being said, bukkake is not only a fetish but also a sort of orgy.
Now that the fetish on video has blown up so big there are many parties through out the U.S. being thrown by amateurs doing large bukkake parties. You can go to the yahoo groups and find many types of bukkake groups who throw parties all the time. Just do a little research and you are on your way to even being in one of these parties. You could be a giver or a receiver!!! Its up to you and it is no holds barred.
So now you know exactly what bukkake means. The true meaning (in the sexual term) is to splash or squirt a large amount of sperm on a girl (or man, if you are gay) This being said you are well on your way to knowing more about this great phenomenon that is bukkake. Go out and have a good time....but please make sure before you do any parties to make sure everyone is tested for STD's (although they say that aids is difficult to pass through saliva or semen) Be sure to use your best judgment, or just join a site or buy videos and be completely safe.
Different types of Bukkake:
There aren't really a lot of genres of Bukkake, but rather a different way or additions to them. Here is a simple list that I have come across in the past of this style of sex.
Forced Bukkake:
This is were a willing participant acts or seems unwilling to get a facial shower from several men.
Bukkake Summit: Here is where a person receives a bukkake shower but tilts their head back and opens their mouth for the full experience, trying to catch it all. At the end of all the facials the cum is collected and drank by the target of the bukkake shower.
Costume Play Bukkake: Here is where a party or video is made in a theme setting such as a girl wearing a schoolgirl uniform in a schoolroom. She would sit and suck off each guy in a line waiting. The men repeatedly cum in her mouth or face.
Dream Shower Bukkake: This is where the group of men have sex with the target. As one man is having sex the other men watch and cum on the girls face. When the man comes to his climax he cums on her face and the next man in line has sex with her. This one can last a while depending on how many men the target is willing to have sex with.
Snowball or Trade Bukkake: This style of bukkake has two or more targets, which when receive facials swap the cum from mouth to mouth or lick it off of eat others faces.
Cum Play Bukkake: Here is where many men cum on the girls face, after which she plays with the cum. Also the men cum on the girls food and the proceeds to eat the food with the sperm glazing.
The genre of Bukkake that I listed above are just a few. There are many more and there are many that are created everyday. You might want to check back to get new ideas on what can be done with bukkake. I will be listing more styles of bukkake in the future.
Lucas was wise to keep him out of the trailer. This is how he's going to lure people in. They'll figure he's not in the movie. Then once they've paid their $10, BAM! Fucked in the ass again.
I've noticed that Jon Katz is not reviewing this week's movie.
Please tell me you guys finally found an ounce of common sense and fired his ass. When the dot coms fall, those of us with real jobs will run into Jon on the street wearing pink lipstick and selling his ass for dope and headlines.
The Origins of Bukkake:
Let me start with the origin of this fetish. The term bukkake is from the country of Japan. This term is actually not a sexual term at all. It was just brought out as a sexual term just recently (around the late 80s) That is the facts. I have heard so many times in the past of people saying that Bukkake is a ancient form of humiliation in Japan (this is NOT the case) It was actually just brought about in porno videos in Japan not too long ago. Now bukkake is growing and moving across the world rapidly.
True Term Meaning of Bukkake:
As I said earlier on the site that Bukkake is from Japan. The term of Bukkake is not a sexual term at all. After this explanation of bukkake hopefully you will understand why the term is not and why it could be a sexual term and fetish. So let me get on to the explanation of this hot new fetish racing through the American continent.
Bukkake in Japanese is base form of a verb, as it stands alone it is a noun. Bukkake means splash or heavy squirt. This being said let me give you an example of this misunderstood word:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketa.
I her water splashed
English:
I splashed her with the water.
When adding something to the end of bukkake such as: ta (makes it past tense) te(command, such as do it) or teru(present) or tai(want to do)
With that being said you could say as well:
SIMPLE EXAMPLE:
Japanese:
boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
I her water want to splash
English:
I want to splash her with the water.
Either way you know what bukkake means as a word. believe it or not Japan even has a soup called bukkake udon. That's how much of a normal word it is. This soup has nothing to do with sex at all. It is a soup that Japanese call bukkake because it makes the soup sound more appetizing. They put a lot of vegetables and liquid in the soup, and by calling it bukkake it gives the feeling that the soup was made quickly and its fresh. As if they splashed the soup together. So maybe that will give you more of an insight as to the meaning or feeling of the word as well. Now on the the sexual meaning of it.....
Sexual Definition and History of Bukkake:
Now that you know that bukkake is a term from Japan that means splash, let me tell you why it is a new sexual fetish.
Around the late 80's early 90's a couple of video companies were trying to make videos that catered to facial and sperm lovers in Japan. So they decided to make videos that would consist of a girl getting facial after facial over and over again.There are many videos series and companies from Japan that do nothing but bukkake specific videos such as: Soft on Demand, Shuttle, M's video group, Deeps and a few more smaller companies (these videos are hard to find, but do exist). There are also a list of great sites and magazines that show this Japanese bukkake fetish such as: gotcum.com or the magazine Gal's shower. With this information you can do your own research as well as see examples to cure your own curiosity or sexual desire.
After these Japanese companies did such extreme facial and cum play videos, pictures and websites; the world caught on like a bon fire in the Evergreen Forest. Now all countries around the world are trying to emulate what the Japanese have done with this new and exciting sexual fetish.There are many American videos out as well other great key players of bukkake media such as Germany or the U.K. Although these countries have tried to emulate the Japanese, nobody does quite like Japan. so far Japan has the most exciting and extreme bukkake out.
The Japanese usually have a cute girl sit down in front of a line of up to 200 men. From there she awaits her huge sperm shower. These men repeatedly give her facial after facial. These is where the term bukkake is used because it is like they are splashing her with sperm!! This is not the usual facial you see at the end of a video but rather a shower of facials over and over again on a willing person. This is what makes the fetish a group project rather than just something that two people do together. With this being said, bukkake is not only a fetish but also a sort of orgy.
Now that the fetish on video has blown up so big there are many parties through out the U.S. being thrown by amateurs doing large bukkake parties. You can go to the yahoo groups and find many types of bukkake groups who throw parties all the time. Just do a little research and you are on your way to even being in one of these parties. You could be a giver or a receiver!!! Its up to you and it is no holds barred.
So now you know exactly what bukkake means. The true meaning (in the sexual term) is to splash or squirt a large amount of sperm on a girl (or man, if you are gay) This being said you are well on your way to knowing more about this great phenomenon that is bukkake. Go out and have a good time....but please make sure before you do any parties to make sure everyone is tested for STD's (although they say that aids is difficult to pass through saliva or semen) Be sure to use your best judgment, or just join a site or buy videos and be completely safe.
Different types of Bukkake:
There aren't really a lot of genres of Bukkake, but rather a different way or additions to them. Here is a simple list that I have come across in the past of this style of sex.
Forced Bukkake:
This is were a willing participant acts or seems unwilling to get a facial shower from several men.
Bukkake Summit: Here is where a person receives a bukkake shower but tilts their head back and opens their mouth for the full experience, trying to catch it all. At the end of all the facials the cum is collected and drank by the target of the bukkake shower.
Costume Play Bukkake: Here is where a party or video is made in a theme setting such as a girl wearing a schoolgirl uniform in a schoolroom. She would sit and suck off each guy in a line waiting. The men repeatedly cum in her mouth or face.
Dream Shower Bukkake: This is where the group of men have sex with the target. As one man is having sex the other men watch and cum on the girls face. When the man comes to his climax he cums on her face and the next man in line has sex with her. This one can last a while depending on how many men the target is willing to have sex with.
Snowball or Trade Bukkake: This style of bukkake has two or more targets, which when receive facials swap the cum from mouth to mouth or lick it off of eat others faces.
Cum Play Bukkake: Here is where many men cum on the girls face, after which she plays with the cum. Also the men cum on the girls food and the proceeds to eat the food with the sperm glazing.
The genre of Bukkake that I listed above are just a few. There are many more and there are many that are created everyday. You might want to check back to get new ideas on what can be done with bukkake. I will be listing more styles of bukkake in the future.
Then I guess our trip to Alaska is out of the question?
S'cuse me, would you be so kind as to light my cross on your way out?
On the bright side though, it looks like you're one of the lucky few to capture a black hole.
Not to mention the new Sevendust album fucking rocks.
Yeah, let's all hop in our billion dollar space ships and put this tutorial to good use.
You're a fucking retard, you fat sack of shit.
Those were two different episodes, fuck hole.
He eats cheese?! KILL THE BASTARD!
Here's to the voice of reason!
That's funny, so is mine.
I'm still posting here though, because Jamie doesn't know how to program. "Fight the ban!" and all that shit.
Sucks to be you.
...where that flaming fuckwit Wesley Crusher falls asleep while working on his nanotech science project and some of them get loose wreaking havoc on the ship?
No?
I didn't think so.
Well fuck my ass and call me Charlie!
*bends over*
I guess Alan had to give in and get a real job.
Being a filthy open source hippy is fine and dandy, but eventually you have to pay the bills.
You find them, and you take your basket back.
Then you shoot them in the head.
A white guy saying representin'?
You should be shot.
Let's grab some lead pipes and beat those stupid midgets!
You might want to get that checked out. It looks pretty serious.
Have you been sticking lit candles up your ass again?
Actually, this feature you speak of loads the entire core into memory. Not just a few dll's.
And believe me, it's unbelievably fast.
With posts like this being the dominant, it's no wonder the proposed /. subscription model will never succeed.
Keep up the good work.
Does this mean we might see more pre-loaded dual-boot systems in the future?
I hope you die in the next terrorist attack.
Oh, and Jamie, your subnet ban sucks ass. It just booted everyone on my subnet but the person you intended to get rid of - me.