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Review: Monsters, Inc.

Yes ladies and gentleman Pixar is back with its latest full length computer animated film, Monsters, Inc. And I braved crappiest theater in all of holland to see it opening night. My review follows, and although I've tried hard not to give any spoilers, I'll give away a few things that hopefully won't hurt anything for you. But the short review is that I liked it, but if you've read enough of my reviews, you know that I love eye candy kids movies, so be warned.

Before I get to the review, I want to mention that I saw this at the crappy theater in holland. The sound system is super assy, and the screen is kinda small. I've seen many movies here, but the Holland 7 always kinda taints a movie for me just because the theater is dirty and the sights and sounds aren't to par with a state of the art theater. Also our showing was led off by the Star Wars Episode II trailer (which wasn't really very interesting) and a Pixar short. I love shorts before films. I wish that this was standard practice. All movies. At least, all comedies anyway, should start off with a short. And this one was hilarious.

Since this is a computer animated film, I'm gonna start by talking a little about the CG. I don't feel like Monsters Inc has hugely advanced the state of the art for computer animated graphics with this film. There are however exceptions: especially in James, John Goodman's character. They hair system they used on the gigantic blue-with-purple-spots monster is simply stunning. There are some scenes where I simply couldn't take my eye off of it. Also the finale which takes place in a gigantic room with a roller coaster like system of children's closet doors whizzing through the air is absolutely a site to behold.

There are other exceptins too, but really what Monsters, Inc. has done is taken the state of the art CG that pixar has perfected, and used it to tell a story. And I think that it might be awhile before a movie comes a long and is able to up the ante as much as Toy Story and Toy Story 2 did. I think this is much more akin to a Bug's Life, where they broke less new ground in the rendering techniques, and instead tried to do more with the characters.

The look of the film is simply stunning. The warm tones of past pixar movies have been chucked out the door for blues and purples and neon green. But when monsters pass into the human's world, you feel as if you might be back in Toy Story... but why would you want to when this world is so interesting? The centerpiece is the Monsters, Inc factory which has a look that is sorta like a factory with a bit of airport stirred in. But then all skewed. Thats where this movie has really taken off: previous Pixar efforts have all taken place in a relatively believable world (assuming that you believe bugs or toys can talk). They take place in a subset of our world. But MI takes place in what might be thought of as a parallel world with gateways (read:childrens closet doors) back to ours. So the artists were given a chance to truly create something unique.

Now I'm going to try to give you a brief summary of the plot without spoiling anything. The main characters are the blue and purple hairy James (John Goodman) and the little green one eyed Mike (Billy Crystal). The main enemy is a chameleon monster named Randall (Steve Buscemi). Other notable smaller parts are voiced by Frank Oz and John Ratzenberger.

Anyway, James and Mike work at Monsters, Inc. The factory is a power plant... but in Monstropolis, they don't use coal or natural gas. Rather they use the power generated by the screams of children. Using a complex system where doors open into Children's Closets, the monsters run in, get their scream, and the juice is collected. It's dangerous work because children are lethal to monsters. One touch, and a monster is dead! James is the best scarer of all time... until his rivalry with Randall goes wrong, and a little girl (nicknamed 'Boo') accidentally comes back to Monstropolis.

The bulk of the show then revolves around Mike and James dealing with this tiny (and adorable) "Monster" that they have accidentally been stuck with. While trying to get her home, protect her from the Bad Guys, and unraveling the secret plot, good times are had by all.

The voice acting is all fairly solid. And I'm not particularly fond of Billy Crystal any more. I was really worried that his baggage was going to carry over into the character and his lame humor would drag everything down. But they /almost/ never let that happen. And Goodman just has great charisma as a voice. What a lucky man. I'd kill to get to be a voice in a Disney or Pixar film, and he's already got a chance to do both! (To say nothing of practically having a guaranteed part in every Coen bros. movie. What a sweet gig!). But as you would expect, all the voice acting was top notch.

The score was excellent for the film. I'm not going to comment on the sound effects because (as I said above) I saw this film in a crappy theater so its just not fair for me to mention that the audio clipped a bit in places and the surround sound effects weren't very good. I purely blame my theater.

Worth noting is that this is the first Pixar film not directed by John Lasseter, and I think it shows. The pixar trademark of being family friendly, but just skewed enough to make it fun for adults is definitely strong here, but MI is a little edgier then its predecessors.

Pixar's deal with the devil (read:disney :) is almost at an end, and I'm really interested to see what they're going to do after they have free reign to create films on their own. But as long as they are producing films as solid is this one, I'll continue to show up to the theater on opening night. The eye candy. The humor. It's just a class act in an age where most movies have none. I still think TS2 is a better film, but you're not going to see many better all-ages movies this year. Unless of course Harry Potter is everything it could be...

296 comments

  1. A rather humorous take on the movie by pa-guy · · Score: 1, Funny

    can be found at landoverbaptist.com.

    1. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by pedro · · Score: 1

      Sorry, d00d!
      It's landoverbaptist.org , not .com!

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    2. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by ChuyMatt · · Score: 1

      Wow.... i hope that that is a joke. That is the most revolting webpage I have ever seen. Islam:Talaban::Christianity:Landover Baptist.
      Wow...

    3. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A joke? Why the hell would you think it's a joke? Typical Slashbot attitude, to assume anything which doesn't fit into your worldview is some sort of joke. Of course it's serious, and it's meant to be taken seriously!! And if you find those preaching the word of God to be revolting, then I have serious concerns for your soul.

    4. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ". I love shorts before films. I wish that this was standard practice. All movies. At least, all comedies anyway, should start off with a short. And this one was hilarious. "

      good lord boy... how young are you? its only since the middle 70"s that "the short" was a staple of every movie-going experience..

    5. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by general_re · · Score: 2

      It's a spoof, don't worry. Although if you want an actual fundamentalist take on Monsters, Inc., get it here. Truthfully, the guy seemed to like it and not really have a problem with it.

      And then you can check out their review of...let's see - how about South Park if you want some fire and brimstone ;)

      And if that parody is the most revolting thing you've ever seen, that's only because you haven't seen the real thing yet...

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    6. Re:A rather humorous take on the movie by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      they point to the sam place as near as I can tell

  2. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I braved crappiest theater in all of holland to see it opening night.

    It thought english was the main language in Slashdot...

    1. Re:WTF? by ShaggyZet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Holland, Michigan. Of course, it's almost Dutch. Tulips, windmills, large "van der" section in the phone book...

      You ain't much if you ain't Dutch.

    2. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was really thinking it was Holland(The netherlands) because there is also a lot of crappiest theaters!

    3. Re:WTF? by slapnuts · · Score: 0

      I stuck my finger in a dyke all night long!

    4. Re:WTF? by radja · · Score: 2

      >large "van der" section in the phone book...

      which makes it quite undutch, since "van der" is not used in the last name itself. a typical entry would be "Ven, van der". Also note the lack of capitalization (in the name, not the post). Now to get to the point.. I have none.

      //rdj

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  3. Re:Don't forget! by ryanr · · Score: 2

    ...Like facing the wrong way, using a mirror to see the screen? 3D glasses? Cross-dressing? I'm just not following you...

  4. What happened to katz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shouldnt john katz be reviewing monsters inc and telling us how the monsters represent the post-colombine geekiness and solidarity against the microsoft behemoth?

    1. Re:What happened to katz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Score: +5, Insightful)

  5. Re:Don't forget! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think he was thinking more to the line of DivX downloads, etc.

  6. But with by 11+platter+hard+driv · · Score: 1

    But with the hair movement in this film, along with the works of final fantasy and others, they are getting pretty close to making this kind of thing... look like real life.

    Haven't seen it, how was the star wars trailer anyone?

    1. Re:But with by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      The scenes sitting outside of the cave with the wind howling had some seriously believable hair movement. I enjoyed the short before it too. Best time time i've had at the movies in quite a while.

    2. Re:But with by malducin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There have been many previous examples of CG hair in film and commercials, for photorealistic hair. Probably the best example was the remake of Mighty Joe Young, done by Dream Quest Images and ILM. Actually the guy that wrote the hair renderer for DQI, Rev Lebaredian, later made a product based on it called JIG, which has been used for many hair rendering related projects:

      JIG
      JIG hair gallery
      JIG credits

      Many other FX studios have created their own propietary solutions or used the something like the Curve primitive in Photorealistic RenderMan. Many early project include a commercial with bees by PDI, the Island of Dr. Moreau by Digital Domain, Jumanji by ILM and many others. Other ones include Episode 1 which have many examples of hairy creatures. There has even been CG hair applied to real persons, like in What Lies Beneath.

      Early CG hair (1995)
      FX for Jumanji (1996)
      Articles on Might Joe Young
      Hair in Mighty Joe Young

      Though of course Pixar did an amazing job with Sulley's hair for this film. They actually made a presentation this past SIGGRAPH at the FX R&D course. You could probably also get some onfo by looking through archives of the RenderMan newsgroup.

    3. Re:But with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry dude, but you're trying way too hard.
      c_forsythe@hotmail.com c_forsythe@hotmail.com c_forsythe@hotmail.com c_forsythe@hotmail.com

    4. Re:But with by nukebuddy · · Score: 1

      11 platter hard driv wrote:
      But with the hair movement in this film, along with the works of final fantasy and others, they are getting pretty close to making this kind of thing... look like real life.

      What do you mean? My hair doesn't move.

      -nb

  7. Thanks! by ekrout · · Score: 1

    Really nice. Thank you Pixar :)

    Why is everybody saying Pixar=Steve Jobs ?
    Pixar is John Lasseter, that's all.
    He's an artist, and I love all that he has done,
    from the very beginning.

    I think one of the first 3D computer rendered image that Pixar made and got used in a movie was in "Young Sherlock Holmes", but I am not sure about this...

    By the way, if you like short animation movies you can also
    go to Aardman [aardman.com], and enjoy some movies from the makers of Chicken Run !


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    1. Re:Thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a shot of some sort of Apple computer on the back of the magazine in the finale. Very funny.

    2. Re:Thanks! by Thatman311 · · Score: 0

      Because in the credits there was a special thanks to Steve Jobs and several other people. But Steve Jobs was on the top of the list.

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    3. Re:Thanks! by hdurdle · · Score: 1

      The effects for Young Sherlock Holmes were supplied by Industrial Light & Magic... but even they didn't know how to make a stained glass window fight a duel with Holmes. It was that computer-animated stained glass warrior that Pixar created.

  8. Almost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FP! (Almost)

  9. Star Wars Teaser? by Pzykotic · · Score: 1

    I wonder if Taco got to see it. I went to the Revere Showcase Cinemas in Revere, Mass, and they DIDN'T PLAY IT!!

    I was quite angry, because as well as going to see Monsters Inc, I was looking forward to the 45 seconds of joy at the beginning of the film. I talked to the most horrible and bitchy manager at the end of the show, who gave me a spiel about how it "didn't arrive yet"... which is BS, because (correct me if I'm wrong) the trailer was attached to the Monsters Inc prints, and theaters were instructed that if they cut it out they would be heavilly fined and possibly not allowed to show Episode II.

    Can anyone add to this with similar experiences, or ways to report this theater, or if I am totally wrong and just bitter, and there was some horrible mishap that actually removed the teaser from the print?

    Thanks,
    Luke (Yeah, that's my real name... any jokes that I haven't heard in my lifetime are welcome)

    1. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm ill be sure to head to somerville or boston cinemas to see it.. that sucks man

    2. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Diomedes01 · · Score: 1

      That's okay, the trailer sucked anyway. It was 45 seconds of Darth-vader like breathing with brief, meaningless 2-second clips; no dialogue, no music, nothing. The clips were generic, and didn't really excite me.

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    3. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Purple_Walrus · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... yea I was at Cleveland Circle (Brookline or Brighton) last night chilling with my friends... I'm pretty sure Monsters, Inc. wasn't playing. Ofcourse I'm not a big fan of cartoons late at night so I wasn't looking for it.


      I saw them selling Shrek on VHS at CVS though!

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    4. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by RAVasquez · · Score: 1

      You don't generally get previews attached to a print. They arrive as separate reels and can be mixed and matched as desired. If previews were actually part of the movie, it would be difficult for projectionists to insert the theater chain's traditional "turn off your cell phone/enjoy our concessions stand" spiel right before the movie itself.

      Since the movie came from Disney's distributors and the teaser came from Fox, I think it's feasible that one came but the other didn't, especially if Lucas was still touching it up at deadline.

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    5. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by acl993 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You don't generally get previews attached to a print. They arrive as separate reels and can be mixed and matched as desired. If previews were actually part of the movie, it would be difficult for projectionists to insert the theater chain's traditional "turn off your cell phone/enjoy our concessions stand" spiel right before the movie itself.

      You are right that trailers usually come separate from the film itself, but I believe that in this case Lucas decided that he really liked MI and Pixar, and created the special teaser trailer just for the film. I haven't actully seen MI reel, but I believe the Star Wars trailer actually came on the MI reel 1.

      If a theater wanted to put their instructional trailer in, they could splice it in. It's really not much extra work, since a film comes in several reels (probably 5 for MI) and most theaters splice the whole thing together into one long piece of film to show it. In doing so they have to take the header and footer off of each reel and then splice the end of one reel to the beginning of the next.

      I don't remember if the theater I saw MI in usually adds instructional trailers, but there wasn't one for MI last night, and they did show the Star Wars trailer.

    6. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by optize · · Score: 0

      He must be a manager at a movie theatre. Get a real job!@

    7. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      I could see how it was attached to the print. The typical bad theater animation couldn't be played with this film, because it went directly from SW: Attack of the Clones trailer to the Pixar short, then the film. (It is normally played after the previews just before the film.) The manager was feeding you a line.

    8. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by peter303 · · Score: 2

      In Colorado we had at least twenty minutues of previews- probably of fantasy films to appear in the next months. They began with the UA "America, the Beautiful" video, then showed Harry Potter, Ice Age, a long Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars. And a humorous Pixar short about mean birdies who get their due.

    9. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Bleh. I used to live on the other side of Cleveland Circle from that theater. It sucked. Go to the big theater in Randolph instead. It's a bit of a drive, but it kicks ass.

      (OTOH, there is a decent Chinese place on Chestnut Hill Ave just up the street from Cleveland Circle... used to eat there a lot)

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    10. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw it a week ago at a radio event sneak preview, and the manager said it had not arrived yet. When the film started, after the second trailer, the hard vader breathing started ;)

      I think it should be attached to the prints

    11. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Purple_Walrus · · Score: 1

      Got no car, plus that's where a lot of us Russians hang out... It's mostly not about the movies.

      Which one is Chestnut Hill Ave.? I can't think of it off the top of my head.

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    12. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by mikemsd · · Score: 1

      Did some digging around on the Star Wars site.

      If you would like to report this theater, you can call:

      Disney Exhibitor Relations
      (818) 560-6200

    13. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      It's the one that goes between Cleveland Circle, up the hill, up to Comm. Ave. You know, the major street at Cleveland Circle that _isn't_ Beacon.

      Bummer about no car. I'd suggest the Sony on Church Street at Harvard Sq. then, but that's a fairly long trip on the T. And like you said, it's not really about movies.

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    14. Re:Star Wars Teaser? by Purple_Walrus · · Score: 1

      Ahh OK, I got it, next weekend I might check out that restaurant with my friends, thanks.

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  10. The real question is... by SpookyFish · · Score: 1

    ... when are games going to look this good? What year do I set on the time machine to pick up a Geforce 9 TiMXSe 69000 Pro Ultra Crazy?

    Even better, think of the applications for user-controlled pr0n =)

    1. Re:The real question is... by sqlrob · · Score: 2

      A LOOOONNNGGG time. An article on Wired said that every single hair was individually modeled.

    2. Re:The real question is... by pridkett · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it's not a case where they individually modelled, but rather individually simulated. They all probably used one of a handful (or a large handful of models) depending on the length, color,etc. But then software (Fizt) was able to apply the physics so it worked on all the hairs.

      The most impressive scene that shows this is where Sully and Mike are banished to Nepal with the Abominable Snowman. Seeing how the snowcone's parts flew into Sully's hair was quite impressive. As was seeing the snow on Sully when he crashed the sled.

      They're lemon...

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    3. Re:The real question is... by tregoweth · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not a case where they individually modelled, but rather individually simulated. They all probably used one of a handful (or a large handful of models) depending on the length, color,etc. But then software (Fizt) was able to apply the physics so it worked on all the hairs.

      Aha! So that's why the control panels in the factory had a "Fizt" button!

    4. Re:The real question is... by malducin · · Score: 1

      If you can get your hands on the SIGGRAPH 2001 course notes on FX R&D, you'll see a very good discussion about this. Pixar presented the research that went into the hair and also the cloth animation, mainly Boo's shirt. You can even see pictures of Sulley with only the control hairs applied.

    5. Re:The real question is... by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative
      ... when are games going to look this good? What year do I set on the time machine

      2017.

      Steve Jobs showed a demo of Pixar's 1985 Luxo Jr. running in real time on a home computer this year. So if history holds, you can expect Monsters Inc. to be possible 16 years from now.

    6. Re:The real question is... by ginsu · · Score: 1
      Actually, if you pay any creedence to Moore's Law (and assuming there won't be any major hops as we jump from Silicon to ???) it won't be 17 years at all -- if computing power doubles every year, then the same percentage increase in PC power we saw between 1985 and 2001 should appear by ~2004.



      Just think about what the games you played 4 years ago looked like . . . mmmmm, Quake with big jaggies. And in the less than a year we've gone from 1Ghz to 2Ghz machines, and who knows how to measure the increase in Gfx card l33tness.



      Of course, that assumes we'll be able to develop games like that, but throw enough power at it and you can do almost anything you can see on a screen. :)

  11. Taco says... by ras_b · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    "I love eye candy kids"

    okay, so he said "kids movies". Talk about taking a quote out of context.

  12. Trailer by ShaggyZet · · Score: 1

    The Star Wars trailer was really lacking. It didn't make me want to see it at all. Of course, i still will, but not because of the trailer. I hope upcoming trailers improve.

    The good news is, no sign of everyone's favorite character.

    1. Re:Trailer by Paul9196 · · Score: 1

      I don't know what kind of crack some of you people are smoking when you are talking about the Star Wars Trailer. First off, it was a TEASER trailer...second for what it was, it kicked ass. The best thing about it that I saw was NO Jar-Jar! Other than that, it gave me another compelling reason to wait in line for tickets again next year, and view the Midnight premier like I did for the first episode. If your looking for a movie to watch, I would recommend going to see Monster Inc. The trailer is cool, and the short film is freaking hilarious, and the movies is very good as well.

    2. Re:Trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Lucas was wise to keep him out of the trailer. This is how he's going to lure people in. They'll figure he's not in the movie. Then once they've paid their $10, BAM! Fucked in the ass again.

      Damn funny! Shame this was modded down.

    3. Re:Trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The problem I had with the SW trailer was that they missed the cardinal rule expressed in one of the featurettes on the Episode One DVD: "Remember, they're not there for the special effects, they're not there for the story, they're there for the music."


      Except for a couple light-sabre sounds, the only sound was Vader breathing. Foreboding, yes, but nowhere near as exciting as the Episode One trailer. (That trailer, you may recall, had a fair amount of music from 4, 5, and 6.)


      The animated short made up for the lack of an interesting Episode 2 trailer :-)

    4. Re:Trailer by Paul9196 · · Score: 1

      God you people are thick headed! This was a TEASER!!!!!!! Not the full trailer you dimwitted cavemen!

    5. Re:Trailer by dittrich · · Score: 1

      The split second of Boba Fett and the other split second of Slave I didn't pique your interest at all?

      I thought it was pretty good...for a teaser trailer. Nothing in it that was really surprising (like Yoda with a lightsaber or something), but it did look good.

      And, yes, the added bonus of no Jar-Jar was kinda nice

  13. What was strange... by gully42 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Notice how each child (well, their door at least) had a national ID card?

    What is disney trying to say now to their audience?

    Yeah, I'm paranoid, who told you?

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    1. Re:What was strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I wonder if you could answer me what's wrong with a National ID card?

      I've never got an answer that would be something else than paranoid "guberment's gonna git me withit!" stuff.

    2. Re:What was strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if you could answer me what's wrong with a National ID card?

      I've never got an answer that would be something else than paranoid "guberment's gonna git me withit!" stuff.


      heh, you arent paranoid, you just felt like posting that as an AC...

    3. Re:What was strange... by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      What I noticed is that the Primary Key for the door was only a 6 digit number. Then later you see millions of doors. Umm... Something ain't right there. I'm seeing a max limit of 999,999 doors, as there were no Alpha-Numeric door codes...

    4. Re:What was strange... by sacherjj · · Score: 0, Redundant

      The problem that I saw was the 6 digit door codes. A 6 digit primary key to access millions of doors, without using Alpha-Numeric codes (I didn't see any, it was always numbers). I'm seeing a serious problem after door number 999999... Somebody can't design a database. :)

    5. Re:What was strange... by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      OK Slashdot. Tell me you didn't post, then post anyway. What's up with that?

      Can someone mod one of thes out of sight? I've got 50 points to spare... :)

    6. Re:What was strange... by pgpckt · · Score: 2


      Six digits would give you a max of 1,000,000 combinations (don't forget 000,000)

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    7. Re:What was strange... by pryan · · Score: 1

      That wasn't a national ID card, it was an access card for the child's door. How else would you solve that particular problem? Imagine trying to explain to a child how monsters can access their door. There's nothing sinister here.

    8. Re:What was strange... by pryan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait, wait, wait. So, let me get this straight... You're criticizing the key-card scheme, but ignoring magic doors where you can step through alternate dimensions simply by having a wooden door?

      Of course, the movie doesn't explain how they got the doors in the first place, or whether there are doors that go to other parts of the monster world. Please, it's just a movie, and a movie for kids at that.

    9. Re:What was strange... by Boulder+Geek · · Score: 1
      The codes were hex. They just only used codes in the film with a-f's in them.

      This sort of thing should have been obvious to any fan of Marvel Comics, so no No Prize for you!

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    10. Re:What was strange... by sacherjj · · Score: 2, Funny

      True, but 000,000 is reservered for putting the door station in debug mode? :)

    11. Re:What was strange... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First it's just a movie... but for the sake of argument, Maybe the doors were handed out in numerical order... and they haven't gotten to 7 digits yet. Or are devided into other larger groups. if you work at a large building you don't get keys to every door. of all the floors. Most of the time you wouldn't even have all the keys to the rooms on the same floor. There are alot of doors out there that are door numbered 1000, and many more named 100.

    12. Re:What was strange... by Planetes · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. I'm not sure I'd read that into it. I saw it more as a company account number conveniently stored on a mag-strip card.. I saw no indications of the cards outside the company.

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  14. Re:Don't forget! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a lot like my protest against greenpeace and peta. Roasting seals over my giant tire fire in my back yard.

  15. LOTR? by blue_adept · · Score: 1

    you're not going to see many better all-ages movies this year. Unless of course Harry Potter is everything it could be...

    ummm...LOTR?

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    1. Re:LOTR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOTR? I dont know, if you've read the books and they get as graphic as they could I don't think kids under 12 will be enjoying (or even comprehending) what it could be.

    2. Re:LOTR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they tone down LoTR enough to make it an all-ages movie, then it will no longer be good. _The Hobbit_ was a story for children; LOTR is for the grown-ups after the children have gone to bed.

      What's suprising is that this is being compared to LOTR on /., and to _Shrek_ by non-geeks...

      I'm interested to read that _Monsters, Inc._ is edgier than TS.*; I hadn't expected this from the trailers.

    3. Re:LOTR? by FreeForm+Response · · Score: 1

      Would you take a youngster (age = 6) to see LOTR?

      I wouldn't.. they wouldn't be able to follow it, and I've been hearing that the battle scenes are slightly graphic. MI, on the other hand, was a blast for me (I'm 19), and I could easily see my 5-year-old cousin loving it. Especially Sully's trademarked yell.. I can just imagine him spending weeks perfecting his version. =)

  16. It truly scared me... by decipher_saint · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Some funny, some CG, a little music... fairly middle of the road if you ask me. Yet this film will make a heap of money, not because it is brilliant (which it, unfortunatly, is not) but because it fits the needs of the demographic it is intended for: Parents who like to watch cartoons.

    Disney knows who it's paying demographic is and this film (more than most in the past) seems to show that if you are a boomer or an early X'er with a family your money is safe with MickeySoft. I mean, I kind of noticed this before (Toy Story 2) but it was never this glaringly apparent before, and it scares me.

    Granted, most films are not "high art" (or even close to it, usually) but is the easily found "lowest common denominator" fuel going to power the Pixar machine forever?

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    1. Re:It truly scared me... by deviator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I saw the movie and really enjoyed it. I think Disney may feel they really can't afford to take too many really big chances with Pixar movies; they are REALLY expensive to produce, and take an awfully long time to perfect.

      I saw a preview for some cheezy Fox CG movie coming out soon (can't remember the name) and it reminded me just of how much of a risk Disney & Pixar *do* take compared to their competitors. The CG wasn't even in the same league of the CG in MI. Kids may not notice this; Parents will.

      ....

      I thought MI was a really topical film; did anyone else notice the Rolling Blackouts headline on the newspaper (obviously a recent addition to the film), or the parallels with Anthrax investigations (when "decontaminating" clothes & buildings from children)? I derived a really useful moral from the story--things are never really as scary or as bad as they might seem. Yeah, this sounds simplistic but it's a nice dose of comfort these days. :)

    2. Re:It truly scared me... by Jerf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Granted, most films are not "high art" (or even close to it, usually) but is the easily found "lowest common denominator" fuel going to power the Pixar machine forever?

      IMHO, this is not a valid complaint. If the "lowerst common denominator" fuel is so "easy" to find, then how come Monsters, Inc. is the first film in a long time to pull it off without me, a rather sensitive person, ever feeling insulted, cheated, or ripped off?

      The movie deserves more credit then to be dismissed as "lowest common denominator". I mean, come on! "Scary Movie", now that's LCD. This ain't no "Scary Movie", it's a lot better.

      Exactly what did you expect, in a movie meant to at least be accessible by children? Angst? Dark imagery? Excessive ambiguity you interpret at subtlety, and pat yourself on the back for finding? Validation/challenging of your world view?

      I've seen a lot of LCD crap. Monsters, Inc. is not it.

      (By far the worst statements of this kind I've seen come from this Salon review, where the reviewer spends two page bitching about the movie he would rather have made, and the changes he would have made, which would have utterly destroyed the movie (and left it something else entirely), rather then actually reviewing the movie.)

    3. Re:It truly scared me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ho ho ho. You probably think Tool is brilliant.

    4. Re:It truly scared me... by aka-ed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The "LCD" is neither easy to pinpoint, nor particularly easy to cater to; it takes lots of science. But it takes no art. The basic thesis of the Salon reviewer is that the basic concept of MI is a dark one, and he complains that it's potential for dark humor is not fulfilled.

      I think that's a valid complaint. All the Pixar/Disney collabs hit the same sunshiney note incessantly.

      Humorous nightmares can be rendered for children successfully, IMO; the Salon reviewer cites Nightmare Before Christmas; I would strongly recommend the Cartoon Network's Invader Zim to anyone who wants to see some truly ill, and hilarious, kid tv.

      I can't picture Pixar/Disney doing a Zim or a Nightmare. Seeing as Disney distributed the Burton film, I don't suppose it's entirely Disney. Tin Toy, a Pixar short, also examined the "child as monster" theme, and it came off as a bit more dark than MI seems to be, but it's still pretty "bright." I wonder whether it may just be a limitation in John Lasseter's directorial style, but the work coming out of Pixar, from the first short to the present feature, seems to be pretty monotone.

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    5. Re:It truly scared me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That Fox movie would be "Ice Age"... A movie where they can barely acknowledge what the title is (The end of the trailer says "Ice Age is Coming" but you don't realize that's the title or just a description).

      It's probably not even half imaged yet, and will end up direct to video.

    6. Re:It truly scared me... by malducin · · Score: 3, Informative

      That film is Ice Age, and it being done by Blue Sky Studios which Fox bought a few years ago along with VIFX (which they later sold to Rhythm and Hues). Blues Sky Studios have even won an Oscar for best animated short, "Bunny", just like Pixar did and they are CG veterans, founded in 1987 (one year after Pixar), though many of the principals are veterans from other facilities. They also are a mostly propietary software house just like Pixar and PDI. Besides doing commercials and animated shorts they have also done tons of FX for movies including Joe's Apartment, the CG aliens in Alien Resurrection and the penguin in Fight Club. They are in the same league as Pixar and PDI and I wouldn't discount them. Tghey seems to be going for a more classic cartoony feeling, like the old Warner Bros or tex Avery cartoons. personally I can't wait to see it. At SIGGRAPH Blue Sky had the short first teaser during the Electronic Theatre and I can tell you it was a success.

      Blue Sky Studios
      Bunny site
    7. Re:It truly scared me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. That's why I refuse to trust reviews anymore. Most of the ones that trash a movie, I end up disagreeing with anyways.

    8. Re:It truly scared me... by scottgfx · · Score: 1

      Wahhh? What the hell were you expecting? An "R" rated "Toy Story"? If you want something edgy, go rent a copy of "Rock and Rule". That is unless you have something against Canadians.

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    9. Re:It truly scared me... by Spiral+Man · · Score: 1
      hmm, i saw the trailer for that, and i also thought it looked pretty good. what looked pretty bad to me (and was also CG) was johny nuetron (or some such) from nickelodeon. the animation was bad (the lipsynch was almost painfull to watch) the voice acting wasnt very good (all the characters are children, so if they also use child actors, which they usually dont, then that might explain it), and the plot looked pretty inane as well (aliens kidnap all the childrens parents, so the boy genius has to invent a bunch of stuff to get them back).

      what was interesting was that there were 2 trailers for fully CG movies before a CG movie. as somebody who dabbles in 3d animation, its nice to see that it is being embraced as a valid artform, instead of just a technical curiosity. of course, this isnt exactly new, with two toy story movies, antz, a bugs life, shrek, final fantasy, and now monsters inc (not counting the at least two more that are coming out very soon) the film industry seems to be embracing the form rather quickly. perhaps becuase they are already used to dealing with it, since it has become so common in live action special effects (and even special effects in traditional animation).

      one thing i liked, was when sully started trying to give the child a bunch of toys (for some reason, i cant remember where in the movie this was...), some were related to other pixar films/shorts. there was a doll from toy story 2, the ball from luxo junior, etc. of course, im a sucker for little references that dont really add anything to the movie.

      of course, the hair was absolutley amazing. not just the realism, but the sheer quantity of it. i thought the movie was pretty good, although it felt a bit like a very long short, i still enjoyed it, especially the scene where they are running in and out of the various doors.

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  17. Sound by Runin · · Score: 2

    I saw this last night in our town's newest theatre, and they were showing it on the biggest screen with the best sound system. The audio for this film is just plain awesome! Everything was crisp and clear, and the entire theatre shook whenever Goodman roared. If you can manage it its definitely worth seeing in a theatre with a good sound system.
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  18. i concur by bkthomps · · Score: 0

    yes, i saw the movie as well, they could have just left out everything but sulley's hair and the rollercoaster scene, and i would have been much more satisfied and did you see the animated short, "for the birds"?? that was hilarious! and if you didn't see it, go see it! it was worth the trip just to see that!

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  19. Billy Crystal by 1of9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Whats wrong with BC? Is it something I missed? Which is very possible since I don't pay much attention to hollywood stuff. But I have always like billy. just my $0.00002

    1. Re:Billy Crystal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not fun. Its.. It's not funny.

      ... BABABOOEY

    2. Re:Billy Crystal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when Billy Crystal was on Saturday night live? he sure does! and he will be offering har har har variations of har har har that kind of humor for the rest of his mediocre has been talented life.... oh to hear the round tones of his latino voice as his "fernando" says "you look marvelous", ever time i hear it i just want to climb a bell tower and unleash homicidal mayhem on a small university town...

    3. Re:Billy Crystal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing wrong with Billy Krystal is that he fucking sucks.

    4. Re:Billy Crystal by spudnic · · Score: 1

      I was wondering about this myself. I know I certainly liked him as Miracle Max in Princess Bride.

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    5. Re:Billy Crystal by vanguard · · Score: 1

      I assume he hates BC for the same reasons I do. I think his humor is lame. I remember a scene in "When Harry Met Sally" where he goes on and on about Mr. Parpikosh and how Mr. Parpikosh like peperoni pizza. He said it in such an annoying voice that it made me hate his character.

      His dumb voices haven't changed in ages. I'm tired of him.

      BTW, this isn't meant as a flame. He asked why people don't like him.

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  20. Looking Inside Pixar by Angry+Black+Man · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pixar's style is a lot different than what we've seen in other full-CG movies including Final Fantasy: TSW and even Shrek. So how do they do? What kind of process to these guys follow? At Pixar, there are four key stages to making a movie. They start with development, move on to creating the storyline (they don't just make the graphics). First, a text treatment (short document summarizing the main idea of the story) is written. Then the storyboards are drawn the old fashion way. Pixar begins to scout for voice actors and then get them into the studio to get some recording done. The editorial staff then begins making reels. If you aren't familiar with reels they are basically videotapes with cleaned up storyboard sequences on them. Finally, the art process begins. The art department at Pixar begins illustrating the world and the characters. They also design sets, props, and visual looks for surfaces and colors. These are reviewed and then the 3D process begins. The models are sculpted and articulated (not sure if this is done on SGI OCTANE workstations, but I do know that the actual rendering and animation is done on them). After the models are adequately designed, the sets are also built in 3d. Now they can begin adding models into the backgrounds and setting the stage according to storyboards. The shots are then animated and shaded and lighting is added. This is where Pixar's RENDERFARM is put to work. For a Bug's Life, 150 dual-processor Silicon Graphics OCTANE[tm] workstations and an Onyx2[tm] visual system were employed. [If anybody knows if the same were used in this, please respond.] After everything is rendered, sound and other final touches are added. Boom! There is your movie.

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    1. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by Angry+Black+Man · · Score: 3, Informative

      Update to that, I researched their rendering methods a bit more and found that Pixar uses their own 3D interface (created for the sole purpose of photorealistic rendering) called RenderMan. You might find it interesting that even though the styles seen in Final Fantasy and Pixar's movies are much different, they both used RenderMan for a majority of the rendering.

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    2. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      For Monster, Inc., Pixar used Sun machines for their render farm. They did just move into a new building, and that means new machines ;) And also, even though Pixar does use RenderMan, a lot of their shaders and design tools are kept in house. The RenderMan you buy from Pixar is differen't from what they're using in Monsters, Inc.

    3. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by _J_ · · Score: 1


      The Shrek DVD has at least one story development scene (Story boarding for an alternative beginning) and it would suggest that their process is similar to what you described above. The DVD is very good btw.

      What may set Pixar apart (besides excellent tech and animators) is an a-class production team. I've heard mixed things about Monster Inc. so I'll see tonight whether or not they've kept their production values.

      IMHO, as per

      J:)

    4. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by xcjohn · · Score: 1

      actually, there was a difference in the implementations of RenderMan that Pixar uses and the one used in Final Fantasy. The major difference between the two was how the skin materials were handled (Final Fantasy actually introduced intentional "blemishes" into the skin textures in an attempt to make them more realistic (and pulled it off quite nicely).

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    5. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by repvik · · Score: 1

      Linux Journal had an article on Pixar and RenderMan (and the usage of Linux in a renderfarm) about the time Shrek was released. (August 2001 issue). It was quite an interesting read (Unfortunately I can't seem to find the article online, and I don't have the magazine at hand atm)

    6. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by malducin · · Score: 3, Informative


      Here is the article, it mainly deals with Dreamworks Animation, but also touches on PDI. There is also Daniel Wexler's page, who is the main rendering guy at PDI:


      DreamWorks Feature Linux and Animation

      PDI Renderfarm Statistics
    7. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by malducin · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is a common confusion. RenderMan is a rendering interface a spec. Usually it's compared as the Postscript of 3D. You can implement a renderer that follows the RenderMan spec. Pixar's implementation is called Photorealistic RenderMan or PRMan for short. It uses the REYES (which stands for Renders Everything You Ever Saw)architecture for rendering (in gross termsZ buffer scanline renderer). Many people when they say RenderMan they actually mean PRMan. PRMan is sold by Pixar along with the RenderMan Artist Tools or RAT. But there exists many other implementations of the RenderMan spec, including BMRT, Entropy, RenderDotC, AQSIS, and AIR among others.

      But when Pixar got started there was barely any adequate off the shelf software, so like many others back then (like PDI, Blue Sky Studios, Abel and Associates, triple I, etc), they had to create their own tools. Actually you can see mention of it at the end of the movie: Marionette is their animation environment, previously referred to as menv.

      RenderMan Interface
      Exluna (makers of BMRT and Entropy)
      AQSIS
      RenderDotC
      3DLight
      AIR
      RenderMan Repository
    8. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by malducin · · Score: 2

      No, actually they used the same renderer, Photorealistic RenderMan. Renderman is a spec, and PRMan is an implementation of it. If anything Pixar uses development versions of PRMan but eventually they make it to the next version of PRMan. Square Pictures actually worked closely with Pixar and many of the requests they had were incorporated into PRMan.

      What you are referring to is shaders which are "little" programs that can calculate light and shading. Every place will create their own, so the skin shader used in Final Fantasy is different from the one in Monsters. But the rendere is basicly the same.

      If you want a more technical discussion of this just check the RenderMan SIGGRAPH 2001 course notes. They have a chapter by Kevin Bjorke, who had several presentations during SIGGRAPH, about what Square did with RenderMan for Final Fantasy: of th

      RenderMan SIGGRAPH course notes
    9. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by nukebuddy · · Score: 1

      Angry Black Man wrote:
      Pixar's style is a lot different than what we've seen in other full-CG movies...

      Dude, you must be seriously pissed. I would have said "Pixar's style is a lot different from what we've seen" but what the fuck do I know?

      -nb

    10. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by mughi · · Score: 1
      This is where Pixar's RENDERFARM is put to work. For a Bug's Life, 150 dual-processor Silicon Graphics OCTANE[tm] workstations and an Onyx2[tm] visual system were employed.

      Actually, since the early days Pixar has used Sun computers for their renderfarm. They even took out a full-page ad to thank Sun Microsystems right after Toy Story came out.

      The SGI computers are mainly just for animator's worstations.

      From one page about a Pixar programmer and A Bug's Life:

      At one point they had about 1,000 processors in the render farm

      And for Toy Story 2, it was

      No less than 300 SGI Octane workstations and 120 Sun Enterprise 4500 servers, along with a 4.5 Terabyte Sun StorEdge Array and a Cisco Fast EtherChannel network - a gigabit Ethernet switched network - powers Toy Story 2.

      And for A Bug's Life, it was

      a switched Ethernet network of 100 Sun Enterprise 4000 servers, each with 14 processors, and 24 StorEdge A3000 disk arrays
    11. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by djn · · Score: 0

      I stayed and watched the entire credits. Near the very end, it said something like,

      Final rendering services provided by:

      Sun Microsystems, Inc.


      So apparently they used Suns to do the rendering for Monsters, Inc.

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    12. Re:Looking Inside Pixar by School+Bully2 · · Score: 1

      The SGI computers are mainly just for animator's workstations. Just!? That is the hard stuff! Any computer (even my palm pilot!) could do the rendering. That is why most people will end up doing this with cheaper linux boxes. Oh yeah! I do work for SGI, so I am biased! Mark

  21. James and Mike? by PRickard · · Score: 3, Informative
    I haven't seen the movie yet (leaving to catch it in literally half an hour) but from what I've read I could have sworn the John Godman character's name was Sully, not James. Did I misread, or did Taco mishear the name repeatedly?

    Glad to see a movie review posted by someone other than JonKatz. Nothing wrong with Katz IMO, just when he posts you have to fight hundreds of anti-Katz submissions under it. Bleh.

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    1. Re:James and Mike? by asdfasdfasdfasdf · · Score: 1

      No, that's just in the Netherlands print... You see, in Dutch, "Sully" means 'he who uses a pitchfork in inappropriate ways upon others buttocks,' which would be inappropriate for the kids, of course.

    2. Re:James and Mike? by john@iastate.edu · · Score: 2
      ... could have sworn the John Goodman character's name was Sully, not James.

      It's James "Sully" Sullivan.

      I just got back from this movie and it rocks, but I think some of it may have been lost on non-parents. Of course, kids got it on another level.

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    3. Re:James and Mike? by FreeForm+Response · · Score: 1

      James M. Sullivan.. "Call me Sully."

      And Billy Crystal's character was named Mike Wachowski (if I can speel today).

    4. Re:James and Mike? by Sodium+Attack · · Score: 2

      I'm a non-parent, and I thought it rocked too. Liked it much better than either of the Toy Story movies (which were quite good, too).

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  22. Other Great things about a movie like this by headless_ringmaster · · Score: 2

    Hands down a great overall movie. I'm a sucker for Animated Disney movies, I'll admit. Something to appreciate about the movie is that there really is something for every age in that movie.

    So Disney may be eating up the bucks on it, but you can't deny the quality here. The CG - I stopped noticing after about five minutes - in that it was done that well. The plot was pretty sharp, and built up well.

    And just like Toy Story, the humor is there, too (I personally thought Monsters was a crack up).

    That's my 2 cents.

    ALSO: TechTV is running a bit on the making of Monsters, Inc. I caught the second 1/2 hour last night, but check there website for more times - looked very cool.

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  23. James Sullivan by terp30000 · · Score: 1

    The character's name is James Sullivan. His friends call him Sully.

  24. should it look real by linuxbert · · Score: 1

    lots of people see this and say the kids should look like real people.. this is annimation. why should they.. did the loony toons have people who looked real? what about the simpsons. yellow skin and blue hair.

    Final Fantasy was beautifully done, and looked real, but monsters inc. is meant to have a cartoony feel to it, and real looking people i think would just be out of place..

  25. No Outtakes by reaper20 · · Score: 2

    I've been spoiled by the past Pixar projects. I was really disappointed that there was no outtake reel at the end of the film.

    It was an excellent movie, not as funny as Shrek, but definatly a worth see. The animation was all there, especially the snow rendered on Sully's hair in Nepal. I was drooling on my lap.

    The little bird short at the beginning was f'ing HILARIOUS.

    Star Wars trailer, disappointing....

    1. Re:No Outtakes by clifyt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I didn't think they did the outtake reel until the movies been out for a few weeks and then want to draw the grownups back again...or at least thats what I understood from the last few.

      I never catch the big movies for the first two or three weeks anyways as I'm trying to catch the little indies that are going to be gone before the ink in the newspaper is dry :-(

      clif

    2. Re:No Outtakes by Cap'n+Crax · · Score: 1

      Outtakes at the end of a CGI movie just shows how *brilliant* Pixar is, IMHO. At the end of TS2 I had to explain to my mom that the "outtakes" were actually specially created for the humor. Of course, she thought she was actually watching talking toys the whole movie....

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    3. Re:No Outtakes by chip · · Score: 1

      One positive thing about the Star Wars trailer was no Jar Jar. If only we could be so lucky with the film.

      Great short film.

      This is my kids' second favorite movie after Shrek. My number 2 movie this year for sure.

      Anyone else think the little girl was Andy's sister?

    4. Re:No Outtakes by bushda · · Score: 1

      Anyone else think the little girl was Andy's sister?

      Didn't notice that, but I did notice her give Sulley the "girl doll" from Toy Story 2.

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    5. Re:No Outtakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I did notice her give Sulley the "girl doll" from Toy Story 2.


      Jessie.


      Boo also gave Sully the "Luxo" ball (which also appears in both TS1 and TS2 -- I don't recall seeing it in Bug's Life, though), from the "Luxo, Jr." short.

    6. Re:No Outtakes by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      isn't Shrek a PG rated film? i think in those, the writers have a little more latitude for including humor.


      the plot was so incredibly slow to unfold in this movie, and there wasn't alot of "action" going on to keep the viewers attention. i actually fell asleep about 1/2 way through the movie, and completely missed the ending. my kids didn't come away from the movie at all with any funny phrases from the movie (they're still reciting the "with his ONE EYE" commercial around here). this is a very over rated underquality film, but we have come to accept that from disney. overall i liked the graphics in the Dinasaur movie.
    7. Re:No Outtakes by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      I kinda got the impression that the Bug's Life outtake where the queen accidently says "Princess Abba", then stops and makes a joke about disco might have been real. They might have animated that one first then decided to make up some more just for fun.

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  26. That blue thing... by ascii-kekkonen · · Score: 0

    Shrek with hair?

  27. A critique of Taco's "writing style" by Pussy+Is+Money · · Score: 1, Funny
    The centerpiece is the Monsters, Inc factory which has a look that is sorta like a factory with a bit of airport stirred in. But then all skewed.


    Very descriptive, Taco. Sort of like an airport or a factory but all skewed, eh. Right. That really works to drive the image home. Yet once again have you applied your steady hand and unwavering eye commandingly to the razorsharp scythe that is your pen, burning with great precision this image unto my inner eye!



    Your writing is so lame, Taco. Also the dept's you use, always the same tired "gee-that's-nice", "well-isn't-that-special" claptrap.



    Just some criticism.

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    1. Re:A critique of Taco's "writing style" by MentlFlos · · Score: 1
      Also the dept's you use, always the same tired "gee-that's-nice", "well-isn't-that-special" claptrap.

      With, at the time of this post, 5995 articles I bet the little part of his brain that does the "dept" tag line is quite fried. I forgive him on that part. As for his stunning description of the factory that isn't, well... uh, yeah.

    2. Re:A critique of Taco's "writing style" by MentlFlos · · Score: 1
      this pisses me off, I post at +2 because my karma lets me and some assmunch moderator does a -1 overrated on me.

      ARgh

  28. I've got a better review by Trollificus · · Score: 0, Funny

    The Origins of Bukkake:

    Let me start with the origin of this fetish. The term bukkake is from the country of Japan. This term is actually not a sexual term at all. It was just brought out as a sexual term just recently (around the late 80s) That is the facts. I have heard so many times in the past of people saying that Bukkake is a ancient form of humiliation in Japan (this is NOT the case) It was actually just brought about in porno videos in Japan not too long ago. Now bukkake is growing and moving across the world rapidly.

    True Term Meaning of Bukkake:

    As I said earlier on the site that Bukkake is from Japan. The term of Bukkake is not a sexual term at all. After this explanation of bukkake hopefully you will understand why the term is not and why it could be a sexual term and fetish. So let me get on to the explanation of this hot new fetish racing through the American continent.

    Bukkake in Japanese is base form of a verb, as it stands alone it is a noun. Bukkake means splash or heavy squirt. This being said let me give you an example of this misunderstood word:

    SIMPLE EXAMPLE:

    Japanese:
    boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketa.
    I her water splashed

    English:
    I splashed her with the water.

    When adding something to the end of bukkake such as: ta (makes it past tense) te(command, such as do it) or teru(present) or tai(want to do)

    With that being said you could say as well:

    SIMPLE EXAMPLE:

    Japanese:
    boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
    I her water want to splash

    English:
    I want to splash her with the water.

    Either way you know what bukkake means as a word. believe it or not Japan even has a soup called bukkake udon. That's how much of a normal word it is. This soup has nothing to do with sex at all. It is a soup that Japanese call bukkake because it makes the soup sound more appetizing. They put a lot of vegetables and liquid in the soup, and by calling it bukkake it gives the feeling that the soup was made quickly and its fresh. As if they splashed the soup together. So maybe that will give you more of an insight as to the meaning or feeling of the word as well. Now on the the sexual meaning of it.....

    Sexual Definition and History of Bukkake:

    Now that you know that bukkake is a term from Japan that means splash, let me tell you why it is a new sexual fetish.

    Around the late 80's early 90's a couple of video companies were trying to make videos that catered to facial and sperm lovers in Japan. So they decided to make videos that would consist of a girl getting facial after facial over and over again.There are many videos series and companies from Japan that do nothing but bukkake specific videos such as: Soft on Demand, Shuttle, M's video group, Deeps and a few more smaller companies (these videos are hard to find, but do exist). There are also a list of great sites and magazines that show this Japanese bukkake fetish such as: gotcum.com or the magazine Gal's shower. With this information you can do your own research as well as see examples to cure your own curiosity or sexual desire.

    After these Japanese companies did such extreme facial and cum play videos, pictures and websites; the world caught on like a bon fire in the Evergreen Forest. Now all countries around the world are trying to emulate what the Japanese have done with this new and exciting sexual fetish.There are many American videos out as well other great key players of bukkake media such as Germany or the U.K. Although these countries have tried to emulate the Japanese, nobody does quite like Japan. so far Japan has the most exciting and extreme bukkake out.

    The Japanese usually have a cute girl sit down in front of a line of up to 200 men. From there she awaits her huge sperm shower. These men repeatedly give her facial after facial. These is where the term bukkake is used because it is like they are splashing her with sperm!! This is not the usual facial you see at the end of a video but rather a shower of facials over and over again on a willing person. This is what makes the fetish a group project rather than just something that two people do together. With this being said, bukkake is not only a fetish but also a sort of orgy.

    Now that the fetish on video has blown up so big there are many parties through out the U.S. being thrown by amateurs doing large bukkake parties. You can go to the yahoo groups and find many types of bukkake groups who throw parties all the time. Just do a little research and you are on your way to even being in one of these parties. You could be a giver or a receiver!!! Its up to you and it is no holds barred.

    So now you know exactly what bukkake means. The true meaning (in the sexual term) is to splash or squirt a large amount of sperm on a girl (or man, if you are gay) This being said you are well on your way to knowing more about this great phenomenon that is bukkake. Go out and have a good time....but please make sure before you do any parties to make sure everyone is tested for STD's (although they say that aids is difficult to pass through saliva or semen) Be sure to use your best judgment, or just join a site or buy videos and be completely safe.

    Different types of Bukkake:

    There aren't really a lot of genres of Bukkake, but rather a different way or additions to them. Here is a simple list that I have come across in the past of this style of sex.

    Forced Bukkake:
    This is were a willing participant acts or seems unwilling to get a facial shower from several men.


    Bukkake Summit: Here is where a person receives a bukkake shower but tilts their head back and opens their mouth for the full experience, trying to catch it all. At the end of all the facials the cum is collected and drank by the target of the bukkake shower.


    Costume Play Bukkake: Here is where a party or video is made in a theme setting such as a girl wearing a schoolgirl uniform in a schoolroom. She would sit and suck off each guy in a line waiting. The men repeatedly cum in her mouth or face.


    Dream Shower Bukkake: This is where the group of men have sex with the target. As one man is having sex the other men watch and cum on the girls face. When the man comes to his climax he cums on her face and the next man in line has sex with her. This one can last a while depending on how many men the target is willing to have sex with.


    Snowball or Trade Bukkake: This style of bukkake has two or more targets, which when receive facials swap the cum from mouth to mouth or lick it off of eat others faces.


    Cum Play Bukkake: Here is where many men cum on the girls face, after which she plays with the cum. Also the men cum on the girls food and the proceeds to eat the food with the sperm glazing.

    The genre of Bukkake that I listed above are just a few. There are many more and there are many that are created everyday. You might want to check back to get new ideas on what can be done with bukkake. I will be listing more styles of bukkake in the future.

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  29. My thoughts... by singularity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I waited until the 9:15 showing last night so as to avoid as many smaller kids in the theatre as possible.

    First off, the Episode II trailer was more of a "teaser." I liked having the only sound be Darth's breathing, but the clips seemed so short (5 seconds or less each?) that it was difficult to get any senese of the movie. In addition, I am not sure I am glad to see that Lucas decided to put the teaser before Monsters, Inc. I think it definitely says something about E.2.'s intended audience.

    Also, has anyone else noticed that we are getting more and more in front of movies these days? I went and saw K-Pax last weekend. 23 minutes of commercials and previews. Monsters was not as bad, but was still up over 17 minutes of previews. By the time the movie starts, I frequently have forgetten what I came to see.

    To the movie at hand: The bedrooms seemed almost straight out of Toy Story. A great scene is when you see the "scarers" (as opposed to the paperwork monsters) coming out of the light in slow-motion. It has been done in so many fighter-pilot movies, and worked really well here.

    The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of characters from another movie/show that I cannot think of right now. They should have been dropped.

    The CGI was great. I am glad to see that Pixar is getting better and better at human beings (by far one of the more difficult things to realistically render). Boo looked halfway decent.

    For the sound: I am still waiting to see a movie that uses theatre digital surround to its full advantage well. What was interesting last night was that one of Goodman's roars was so loud that it shook the ceiling of the threatre, causing a vibration on top of the speakers.

    In all, it was a good movie. Toy Story and Shrek were still better, but I think that most kids and most CGI fans should see this one in the threatre. I would give it 2.5 stars out of 5.

    If only I could have talked my friend into seeing "The One" instead...

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    1. Re:My thoughts... by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      Also, has anyone else noticed that we are getting more and more in front of movies these days? I went and saw K-Pax last weekend. 23 minutes of commercials and previews. Monsters was not as bad, but was still up over 17 minutes of previews. By the time the movie starts, I frequently have forgetten what I came to see.

      I love the trailers. It is the reason I won't be later to a movie if possible. You get to see the best parts of the junky movies that you won't ever see. It's great. Like cliff-notes... :)

    2. Re:My thoughts... by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      you might not have caught the subtle toy story tie in, where the girl 'gives' a toy story 2 doll to Sully near the very end. also, it's a kid's room. toy story tried making the most generic kid's room as possible. hell, they had to for the simulator ; )

      i guess it's hard to not do a generic kid's room and not make the film seem less storybook-like (thoughts of the artwork in 'goodnight moon' storybook come to mind)

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    3. Re:My thoughts... by Alakaboo · · Score: 1

      Also, has anyone else noticed that we are getting more and more in front of movies these days? I went and saw K-Pax last weekend. 23 minutes of commercials and previews. Monsters was not as bad, but was still up over 17 minutes of previews. By the time the movie starts, I frequently have forgetten what I came to see.

      I don't care for the commercials too much, but I've come to treat the previews as the best part of the movie. I derived more pleasure from seeing the Ep1 trailers than the movie itself, just because it gets my adrenaline and imagination going crazy.

      Ep2 looks like it will be good, if for no other reason than Liam Neelson has a scene. Also, the impression I got from the Harry Potter trailer was not good. Terrible, actually, even as a children's movie. Granted, I haven't read the books, but what the heck is the plot? Kid displays odd properties, gets sent to wizard's school, nefarious hijinks ensue? Oh brother...

    4. Re:My thoughts... by MA17 · · Score: 1

      "In addition, I am not sure I am glad to see...the teaser before Monsters, Inc. I think it definitely says something about E.2.'s intended audience."

      Something we all forget sometimes is that Star Wars really is a movie intended for younger audiences. Most of us saw it when we were kids/preteens and fell in love with it, and now that we're grown up and our tastes have matured, we cling to the nostalgia of it all. Episode I may have done some things we didn't like, but it was fundamentally in the same vein as A New Hope, and today's kids loved it, just like we did in 1977.

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    5. Re:My thoughts... by BarefootClown · · Score: 2

      The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of characters from another movie/show that I cannot think of right now. They should have been dropped.

      The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of my cow-orkers from my last job. They (my cow-orkers) should have been dropped; the characters were perfect.

      And I believe I have seen the impossible...this review appears to have been written by Cmdr. Taco, but I didn't see a single spelling mistake. Who's the ghostwriter?

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    6. Re:My thoughts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of characters from another movie/show that I cannot think of right now. They should have been dropped.

      They reminded me of two characters from Dexter's Laboratory, puppet pal Clem and puppet pal Mitch. I could swear they were the same voices from those characters. They even had a vaguely similar look, although I can't be sure without having them next to each other.

      Yeah, they were annoying. Then again they were probably supposed to be annoying. Overall I don't think I'd change anything in the movie, not only did it look cool it also had a PLOT! You don't see movies with plots that often it seems...

      - Graff

    7. Re:My thoughts... by Lotek · · Score: 2

      SPOILER WARNING (I guess.)
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      Ahem. "Boo" was Andy's little sister.

      Thank you, continue on.

    8. Re:My thoughts... by toybuilder · · Score: 1

      Those "annoying voices" were (at least in part) a vehicle for Monty Python references. "Shut up! Sorrrrry. Shut up! Owwww!"

      The "fighter pilot" thing ties into The Right Stuff.

      There were other references, some I didn't catch (but my other friends did)...

      Fun movie. Must see.

    9. Re:My thoughts... by Banjonardo · · Score: 1
      but I didn't see a single spelling mistake

      Third paragraph, first sentence.

      "Exceptins"

      Blergh.

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    10. Re:My thoughts... by Daimaou · · Score: 1

      I saw Monsters Inc. tonight with my kids. It was a pretty good show.

      I have already seen The One, I think, in the form of Highlander and Timecop.

    11. Re:My thoughts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...[T]he Harry Potter trailer was not good. Terrible, actually, even as a children's movie. Granted, I haven't read the books, but what the heck is the plot? Kid displays odd properties, gets sent to wizard's school, nefarious hijinks ensue?


      Close. You left out "from a foster family that despises wizardry and punishes him for it", and substituted "nefarious" for "moderately hilarious". It's a rather fun treatment of the old "unwanted boy at boarding school becomes a hero despite himself" story. Oh, and he's a minor celebrity in the wizard world, but doesn't live in that world until he gets to school.


      Read the books, or at least the first one (I'll let that hook ya ;-) ). They're some of the most entertaining to have been published in recent memory.

    12. Re:My thoughts... by Ekman · · Score: 1
      The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of characters from another movie/show that I cannot think of right now. They should have been dropped.

      They're both a ripoff of one Simpsons character--the pizza-faced, voice cracking teenager usually used as a fast food employee.

    13. Re:My thoughts... by Tetsujin28 · · Score: 2
      Granted, I haven't read the books, but what the heck is the plot? Kid displays odd properties, gets sent to wizard's school, nefarious hijinks ensue? Oh brother...

      No, there is actually a pretty good, multi-layered mystery plot -- none of which comes across in the trailers.

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    14. Re:My thoughts... by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
      but I didn't see a single spelling mistake

      They hair system they used on the gigantic blue-with-purple-spots monster is simply stunning.

    15. Re:My thoughts... by rnielsen · · Score: 1
      but I didn't see a single spelling mistake

      absolutely a site to behold

  30. Trailers by Ted+V · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even before my wife and I saw the movie, it was worth the price of admission. The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and Star Wars trailers all looked excellent, and I'm looking forward to seeing each movie. Watching the trailers side-by-side really pointed out how different these movies are. They aren't competing with each other at all, even if they're all fantasy/sci-fi movies.

    Lord of the Rings is quite obviously (attemping to be) an epic fantasy movie. Epic is hard to pull off, but I believe Lord of the Rings will make it. Will it be as good as the books? No. Will there be times you're distracted by the special effects? Probably. But the source material of the movie is the very definition of Epic Fantasy, and if the director (Peter Jackson) has a devotion to stay true to the source, Lord of the Rings can't help but achieve its goal of successfully portraying the epic nature of Tolkien's books. The trailers quite clearly pitch it as a teenager/adult movie.

    Harry Potter is another fantasy oriented movie, but it's quite clearly just "Good Fun". This doesn't mean the movie doesn't have depth. In fact, J.K. Rowling gave each actor a complete background story for their characters (which she has in her head, but hasn't been published in any books). It tries to portray a child's wonder at and adventure in the world of magic. It's not striving for epic. It's a movie that could and will be enjoyed by the whole family.

    The Star Wars review had dark overtones, but was just shot after shot of breathtaking scenes packed with tension and action. It's a special effects, action movie. The plot might not be Lord of the Rings or even Harry Potter, but it's still ten times the plot of any other action movie. The Star Wars story doesn't have much depth anymore. (Especially since George Lucas tried to rewrite Han Solo as a good character from the start, instead of learning to love things other than himself.) But Star Wars does have a *LOT* of breadth, and that comes across in the movie. Just seeing all the different cultures and planets is still very exciting.

    -Ted

    1. Re:Trailers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My theater (suburban Boston) only had the Harry Potter trailer - no SWII, no LotR. And there was no short! I feel completely robbed.

      So don't go to the Showcase Cinemas Revere, or you'll be disappointed.

    2. Re:Trailers by sidb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For the most part, the trailers on a movie are up to the discretion of some employee at the theater. Some movie prints come with one (or rarely two) trailers attached, which must be shown with that movie. Monsters came with the Star Wars teaser. Every other trailer spliced onto that movie came out of the theater's trailer cabinet and was selected on the basis of the tastes and sensibilities of whoever was in charge of assembling that movie for projection.

      Try this sometime: go to two different screens in the same theater that are showing the same movie (just stop into a second screen for the previews after seeing the movie the first time). Most likely, the trailers will differ even within the same movie theater, unless the film person is remarkably consistent.

  31. Star Wars trailer? by doorbot.com · · Score: 2

    So what about the Episode II trailer? Did they show it? Or was it just being released with the US version of Monsters, Inc?

    1. Re:Star Wars trailer? by Comrade+Pikachu · · Score: 0

      According to TheForce.net, some prints of Montsters, Inc. were apparently shipped without the Episode II trailer attached. Odd, because the trailer was supposed to be attached to each print before it reached theaters.

      If you want to see the trailer (reports are correct, it's not too great), call your local theater fisrt and make sure they are showing it.

    2. Re:Star Wars trailer? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      So what about the Episode II trailer? Did they show it? Or was it just being released with the US version of Monsters, Inc?

      It may depend on where you are in the US. Here in Small-Town Washington State, we got the trailers for 'Ice Age', 'Episode II', and something so forgettable I'd forgotten it before the movie actually began.

  32. ladies and gentleman? by OblongPlatypus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Given the male/female ratio of the Slashdot audience, shouldn't that be "lady and gentlemen"?

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    1. Re:ladies and gentleman? by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 2

      No, it should be "Lady, Gentlemen, and My Fellow Slashdotters."

  33. Sun Microsystems Re:Looking Inside Pixar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I noticed Sun Microsystems name in the credits, but not SGI. I may have missed them. I also missed the ''bloopers'' that pixar has traditionally done.

  34. Definitely a movie adults... by terp30000 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    err, intelligent slashdotters can enjoy. Besides the animation and the obvious gags, the film touched on a number of themes, including:

    1. The absurdity of the children's mythology of monsters. The film turns this on its head by having the monsters believe (incorrectly) that a child's touch will kill them (You get this real early on; this is a very insignificant spoiler).

    2. The evils of big business, and how obvious smart solutions are both easier and usually ignored (Take THAT, MPAA).

    3. Usually, a children's movie like this has a hero who has to overcome some evil force, which the hero conquers with the help of the good guys. ...

    ****MINOR SPOILER WARNING****

    ...But in Monsters, Inc., all but the hero's closest friends, are unknowingly part of the evil force, and it is the hero's responsibility to find a moral solution to both his personal and the town's problems, and then persuade the company to stop its evil and behave morally.

    4. The possible negative effects of fame.

    I especially liked how the seemingly self-centered Mike didn't mind being obscured on TV or on the magazine; it showed his flaw was in his inferiority complex, not in his self-centeredness, and made the ending a solution to his inferiority complex.

    1. Re:Definitely a movie adults... by epukinsk · · Score: 2

      I felt like this movie had a lot to do with parenting too. The most poignant moments in the film were Sulley's "parenting dilemmas": when boo was frightened of him for the first time, when he had to leave her for her own good, when he had to sacrifice his friendships and his career for her... these were key parts of the film.

      I suppose the moral question here is "am I really going to sacrifice ____ for my child?"

      -Erik

  35. Re:(mini spoiler)My thoughts... by digitalsushi · · Score: 1
    i saw both. i saw 'the one' at 7 and 'monsters inc' at 9.. the one was the biggest highlander ripoff i've ever seen. 'each time one of you is killed, his power is divided amongst the rest'. i tried to let it go, but at the end there was a 'there can be only one' line almost verbatim, and it was sad and disappointing.

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  36. Re:Don't forget! by ahaning · · Score: 1

    No, watch it on ABC.

    Whoops!

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  37. It's nice to see by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: 0

    That jon katz is no longer the one reviewing movies! thank god

  38. Great to see with kids by dinotrac · · Score: 5, Informative

    I gave Monster, Inc the acid test:

    Went with my wife, my 5 year old and my two year old.

    Each of us loved it, each of us found plenty to laugh at.

    What amazed me most was not the CG (though really good), the acting (though really good) or the writing (though really good).

    No, what amazed me most was watching my squirelly little two year old sitting on the edge of her seat with wide-open eyes glued to the screen.

    A personal favorite moment (that, fortunately, doesn't give anything away) was the scene showing the beginning of a scare shift at the MI factory. The "scarers" -- a very goofy looking group of monsters -- walk onto the floor in a group with the group, pausing for a second in a low-camera-angle kind of shot that makes you think of a million "here come the good guys" scenes. Almost guaranteed to make you grin.

    Good movie.
    Great fun.
    If you don't have a kid, consider borrowing one.

    1. Re:Great to see with kids by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      heck yeah.

      my girlfriend and i saw the movie, somthing she commented on was how well behaved all the children were. talk about keeping the viewer's attention.

      on a side note, as soon as the SW trailer came on, even after other trailers playing and people talking through them, the theater went dead silent as soon as the anticipated trailer came on. 2 or 3 people applauded, other than that, the 45 seconds was silent. talk about controllingyour audience

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    2. Re:Great to see with kids by Pahroza · · Score: 1

      That's interesting. As soon as the star wars trailer came on, my girlfriend started laughing hysterically.

    3. Re:Great to see with kids by nettdata · · Score: 1
      I gave Monster, Inc the acid test:

      You mean Pixar is getting into making databases as well?
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    4. Re:Great to see with kids by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

      My wife and I took our kids (two boys, ages 9 and 4) to the matinee yesterday. They both enjoyed the film, though the 4yo was quite distressed when the door got shredded. He didn't see the doors as portals to the rooms, but as containing the rooms. Shred the container, and you shred the contents... Ouch! I had to spend a few minutes explaining it to him, and even then I don't think he got it until the very end. (Why aren't the preschools spending more time teaching kids about transdimensional physics?!?!)

      In general we all had a good time, though the consensus was that Toy Story 2 was more fun. We'll still end up getting MI when it hits DVD, though.

      "That not a kitty! That a monster!"

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    5. Re:Great to see with kids by FreeForm+Response · · Score: 1

      I went with a group of friends, one of whom tagged along only to see the trailer. Afterwards, breaking through the dead silence, I turned around and said to him, "You came to Monsters, Inc. to see that, Matt? What the hell is wrong with you?"

      The entire theater busted up.. I was so proud. =)

  39. In a lame Slashfart topic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... no one can hear you scream.

    No wonder these retards think that "Cowboy Neal" is somehow amusing. Sickening to look at his picture, yes. Amusing, no: Sad.

  40. Nice review, Taco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks.

  41. pixar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is impossible to deny that Pixar is surely the Blizzard of the movie industry. Every movie they make is good and lives up to it hype.

  42. Re:Nice work, Capt. Tacky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Your $1.50 contribution to the Prosecution of Computer Programmers Fund will not be forgotten
    Troll or no, I like this line.

    It sums up what's happened to me this last 6 months pretty well. Except I might change the word Prosecution to Persecution.
  43. hair animation by Hadlock · · Score: 2

    i dragged my girlfriend to go see Monsters, Inc. opening night down at one of the two DLP projectors (digital projector, no film, no shakes or bumps, ect, ect) and i have to say, walking past the life-size Sullivan (blue and purple monster) in the theater lobby, and then seeing him there on the big screen.... i had a hard time convincing myself of the fact that this was *not* real....especially in the closeups, where you can see every single individual hair moving, quite convincingly lifelike.


    this release from pixar says that "yes, it's cg, and no, smooth charicters aren't all we can do, when it comes down to details, we can pull off the good effects", especially in sullivan' hair, the pieces of the doors as they are shredded, ect ect. quite a bit of nicely done eye candy.

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  44. Why National ID cards are bad by JabberWokky · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    I wonder if you could answer me what's wrong with a National ID card?

    Offtopic for the article, but ontopic for the thread and the site. No real solution but to post here.

    The ID card itself (other than creating a situation ripe for identity theft or confusion and an atmosphere of "the computer is always right") isn't all that bad. The thing that *is* bad is making it mandatory to have certain objects to be considered a "human", and those that do not desire or that don't "fit" are subhuman.

    As an example, Japan has a national registry. Western males who marry Japanese women (and assumedly the other way around) do not show up on the registry - there is no way to insert non-Japanese names into it. Thus, Japanese women with children and a western husbund are reguarly visted to see how the "single" mother is doing. This is a fairly trivial example, but it shows how databases are not ideal when dealing with humans. Having an error on your paycheck is a pain in the ass. Having all records of your existance disappear could be fatal in a society that trusts records. When a rookie cop filled out my accident report incorrectly, getting my name wrong and making it look like I was the perpetrator of a hit and run rather than a victim, I just had to appear in front of a judge and get it nul prossed. Can you imagine if, because of his error, weeks went by in which my bank accounts were frozen, I couldn't travel in public places, and my ID did not work anywhere?

    Plus, setting up an ID for everybody is a beginning. Once everybody is counted, it is easy to add more and more "requirements to be a citizen". I'm not sure where you are, but here in America, being a citizen is something granted by birth, and is a right, not something you have to do something for. This flips this fundimental right around, and anything that does that (like laws that place the onus upon the accused to prove innocence) changes at a very basic level the concepts of "Freedom" that the Republic was formed to protect.

    Yes, it's abstract... yes, it's okay in 98% of cases. But it's a subtle and fundimental lessening of personal freedom that could cause serious ramifications down the road.

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    1. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      Plus, setting up an ID for everybody is a beginning. Once everybody is counted, it is easy to add more and more "requirements to be a citizen". I'm not sure where you are, but here in America, being a citizen is something granted by birth, and is a right, not something you have to do something for.

      That would require a constitutional amendment to change, as I believe citizenship is defined in there, and you can believe that would be hard to push through.

    2. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by pryan · · Score: 1

      I agree, instituting a mandatory identification system is just the beginning. How it is used or abused comes later.

      We already have identifcation systems, they are inherent to sophisticated organisms. The problem is that as our society becomes more detached and automated, artifical identification systems have to be put into place. The reason? Good question. We tend to construct systems that prerequesite inescapable identification.

      Social security accounts are trying to fill that role, however depressingly inadequate they are. Of course, more often than not, social security accounts serve merely to keep records straight rather than identify someone. However, I have always treated incidents involving social security accounts as a glimpse into the future.

      One root of abuses is the requirement that the binding between entities and certificates are inescapable and unforgable when they're not. This leads to two problems, which you already pointed out: identity theft, and the mistaken assumption that the lack of a certificate proves the negation of what the certificate is supposed to show. And I also agree with you that former is much less dangerous than the latter.

      Also, the certificate is just a small portion of the system. So, the question becomes how to construct the system such that those two problems are minimized.

      The problem here is that these problems exist in the current system. So anything that adds convienence to the current system is going to simple exacerbate the current problem.

      I think it might be necessary to institute a new system, and make the existing system interface with it, as opposed to extending what we have now. Then, at some later point, we can retire the old system. That way, we don't have to carry along flawed assumptions and ideas that don't scale or lend themselves to automation.

    3. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The thing that *is* bad is making it mandatory to have certain objects to be considered a "human"

      IDs are not about being "human". They're about being recognized as a citizen who is entitled to all the services of the society.

    4. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To elaborate: I'm not a US citizen but I could pretend to be a one (perhaps a recently immigrated one) and run, for instance, a welfare scam unless my immigration status is somehow checked. How do you do that if I don't have an official ID?

    5. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      IDs are not about being "human". They're about being recognized as a citizen who is entitled to all the services of the society.

      So then a person without ID has no rights in society? Sounds to me like you're segregating a group of people that then lack human rights. Even placing morals (as to how right or wrong that is) aside, it is simple fact that you are saying "This person with an ID fundimentally deserves more than this person without an ID".

      And if you think that such a mindset cannot occur, you are hopelessly locked in a first world, idealistic viewpoint. And if you're American, you should think about the fact that the FBI considers torturing the terrorist suspects a viable option, and the "drug war" mindset has passed "guilty until proven innocent" seizure of property laws. America is not immune to acts of stupidity; we've just managed to do pretty good so far. A national ID is one of those things that subtly changes mindsets until people don't realize that Freedom and Human Dignity is an attribute that should be attached to a person, not a properly lined wallet.

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    6. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      That would require a constitutional amendment to change, as I believe citizenship is defined in there, and you can believe that would be hard to push through.

      You don't need to amend the Constitution once it's become customary to disregard it. Folks on both the right and the left seem to think that custom is well-established these days.

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    7. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So then a person without ID has no rights in society?

      No, he has his human rights. He simply does not have the extra rights that come with citizenship, unless he can prove he is a citizen that is entitled to those rights.

      it is simple fact that you are saying "This person with an ID fundimentally deserves more than this person without an ID".

      Yup. You don't deserve to collect a welfare check, for instance, unless you can prove you're a citizen.

    8. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      unless you can prove you're a citizen.

      So the onus is upon the individual to prove citizenship? Odd - and what else would you require to be gifted with these extra rights? What other hoops to go through? What else would you take away from someone born here, but who does not possess or possibly desire your ID?

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    9. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by mi · · Score: 1

      Besides, there are already passports. Use Occam's razor and realize, that passports are already all, that this "ID card" wants to be. Including being optional...

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    10. Re:Why National ID cards are bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this a circular argument you're stuck in?

      You will get an ID card in the same way you get a driver's license, possibly for free. You will need to show some sort of proof of citizenship to get it (birth certificate, most likely).

      If you don't want to get an ID because they might track you in order to discriminate against you for not having an ID, then tough, I guess.

  45. The extra goodies made the film. by cheezus · · Score: 5, Informative
    Good flick. Of course, they showed it at the crappy theatre in my town (on three screens tho) instead of the big theater with the big screens and the digital sound (sigh). Maybe there is some nationwide strategy that they aren't telling us


    Anyway, my girlfriend and I took her 10 year old sister, and we showed up at 6:15 to find a fairly long line already there to get tickets for the 7pm show. I haven't seen a line like that since Phantom Menace, so I'd guess Monsters is going to win the box office game this weekend.


    Monsters, Inc, and Harry Potter are the two movies I've been most excited about seeing (old enough to drink, but still into the kiddie films... go figure). I figured that since Monsters was backed by Disney and Harry Potter by AOL/TimeWarner, I wouldn't be seeing a trailer.


    WRONG!


    The new Harry Potter trailer played! It was pretty much the same one as before, but had some addition footage of quiddich and other eye candy that probably just recently got finished.


    Then, just after the theater had played their little "hey, we're Carmike cinema's and we have a lame 3D intro thing" thing, and I was beginning to think that the rumors were false, the LucasFilm logo popped up and did its shiny thing, and I was treated to some very hastily thrown together scences from AotC set to Darth Vader breathing. Got to see portman, the new anikan, yoda, some light sabers and some ships. Nothing special, but enough to remind me that I should be getting excited about seeing it this summer.



    Then there was the Pixar short, which was probably one of the best short cartoons that I have ever seen. The CGI wasn't so much impressive as the level of emotion that the characters had. I won't give any spoilers, but I will say that I enjoyed the short more than the movie itself


    And don't get me wrong, it was a good flick. However, it did play out like a chilren's cartoon. While there was some stuff for the adults, this was certainly no Shrek. It was still enjoyable, and the munchkin liked it.


    So um, yeah. Go to it. You won't be disappointed.

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    1. Re:The extra goodies made the film. by APierce · · Score: 1
      I figured that since Monsters was backed by Disney and Harry Potter by AOL/TimeWarner, I wouldn't be seeing a trailer.
      ...
      Then, [just as] I was beginning to think that the rumors were false, the LucasFilm logo popped up
      If I'm not mistaken, theaters will throw their own ads on before the movie (which would be the Harry Potter ad before the theater ad) and then others are directly attached to the film itself (i.e. SW:AOTC). In the first case, your theater is probably going to be showing Harry Potter, and in the second case Lucasfilm/Pixar have strong historical ties (enough to get Disney to help advertise a Fox movie, obviously).
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    2. Re:The extra goodies made the film. by N8F8 · · Score: 2
      Maybe there is some nationwide strategy that they aren't telling us

      Same thing here. I live in Hampton/ Newport News Virginia and the same thing happened. We have many local theaters, but none compare to the huge 24 Screen AMC theater. The AMC theater is so nice I almost refuse to go anywhere else.

      So where does Monsters Inc. open? Regal Cinemas. Uncomfortable seating, small screens and crappy sound. I hope they don't pull this with Attack of the Clones.

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    3. Re:The extra goodies made the film. by bushda · · Score: 1

      I ran a theater for three years, and can tell you that NO film comes with more than one trailer on it.

      Very few (read: some Indies) come with no trailer unless it's already been shown at another theater & the trailer was chopped off. I've never seen a film arrive in the can that had more than one trailer attached by the studio.

      What you're seeing at the beginning of each film is the fine splicing work of the projectionist who obviously gets paid to splice A LOT of trailers to the beginning of each film.

      Sadly, most places don't abide by the rule I was given: No more than three trailers ever.

      To answer why you saw a Harry Potter trailer before MI - it's because it was spliced on. No tie in with Disney, no permission from Disney, nothing. It was because the projectionist either made the decision himself or was told to put it on there. No other reason.

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    4. Re:The extra goodies made the film. by Snarl · · Score: 1

      What I really loved about this movie was that the morals wasn't as obvious as in Shrek, where they spelled out everything. In Shrek it was:
      -But will she love me even though I'm ugly?
      -Of course, it's the inside that counts!

      In Monsters, Inc the moral was more suttle. Also Monsters, Inc made me laugh more, especially all the scenes that took place in the background, like the snakes around Celia's head. Great stuff!

    5. Re:The extra goodies made the film. by APierce · · Score: 1
      To answer why you saw a Harry Potter trailer before MI - it's because it was spliced on. No tie in with Disney, no permission from Disney, nothing. It was because the projectionist either made the decision himself or was told to put it on there. No other reason.
      Exactly what I said. The Harry Potter ad was tacked on at the theater, but the Star Wars ad is attached to the film itself. From Star Wars Today: Fans to get first look at Attack of the Clones through exclusive trailer only on Monsters, Inc

      Where I saw it, there was something like 4 or 5 trailers (I know, because I anticipated each one to be the Star Wars teaser), then there was the little happy Century Theaters clip, then there was an ad for Disney's Return to Neverland (Peter Pan II) and the Star Wars teaser. I imagine both of those were on the reel when it got to the theater, which doesn't necessarily break a "no two trailers" rule since the Star Wars clip was so dang short. =)

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  46. for more information by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    for more information on splicing together film, and other films, please visit your local bookstore, and read fight club.

    thank you

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  47. TechTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, how about that Jessica!

  48. Rocked by augustz · · Score: 2

    I found the CGI and montion of everything MUCH more beleivable in this then in Shrek. Seeing it in a good theatre the audio was spectacular. Not a clip in sight.

    Pixar really comes out with some incredible stuff. Folks need to remember that EVERY one of their movies has been good, they keep on hitting stuff on the head.

    They managed to sign a terrible deal with Disney but when that's over who knows what's going to happen, if Disney isn't nice about the sequel issue I imagine they will come back and hammer them into the dust.

    And a fun movie. Take a kid to see it and you'll realize how anything "edgier" would have been a total loss. I liked it a lot, and am a jaded college kid.

    1. Re:Rocked by Peyna · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Pixar could have been all the are without Disney's help?

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  49. Why it's worth your eight bucks. by joshjs · · Score: 1


    1) The short, "For The Birds" ( i think ). I thought it was absolutely adorable, and practically everyone in the theater was giggling at it. ( I think you can watch it at Pixar's website

    2) The trailers: I didn't get to see LOTR, but Episode II, while simply a bunch of wide shots strung together, is enough to get me salivating, and Harry Potter looks so amazingly like I imagined while reading the books, that it'll probably be my biggest letdown of the year ( this won't, of course, prevent me from seeing it: I have to find out... )

    3) The movie itself. Particularly, I enjoyed the very, very cute little kid, Boo, and the Abominable snowman, voiced by John Ratzenberger (complaining about being labeled abominable -- "I'm a nice guy...!")

    My complaint is that the villain wasn't amusing at all, but that's hardly a requirement. I just kind of expected it from Steve Buscemi.

    Definitely worth my eight bucks.

  50. digital projection by greysky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was privileged enough to get to see this film at one of the few theatres equiped with a digital projection system. All I have to say is that my jaw never came off the floor. The picture was by far the crispest, clearest picture I've ever seen. Throughout the entire movie every single strand of hair on John Goodman's character was distinct and had it's own amount of bounce. By far the most technically impressive movie I've seen. I really think that if the picture hadn't been as clear it wouldn't have been as impressive.

  51. Pixar short: "For the Birds" by ansible · · Score: 2

    Yup, that short film had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe. The expressions on the faces were just excellent. It was just about worth the price of admission all by itself.

    I also thought that the animation of Goodman's character was excellent. The little girl was very good too, though Billy Crystal's character didn't do much for me.

    Overall, well worth it.

    1. Re:Pixar short: "For the Birds" by cirby · · Score: 1

      Meep. Meepmeepmeep. MeepMEEEP! Meepmeepmeep.

    2. Re:Pixar short: "For the Birds" by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      You forgot the most important:

      HOOONNNK!!

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    3. Re:Pixar short: "For the Birds" by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      On James :
      The fur animation had my eyes wide open. There was really nothing else you could point at and say "that looks absolutely real", but if you put that type of fur in a non-animated movie, I can't say that I would notice.

  52. Soured at the climax by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 1

    I enjoyed the movie most of the way through, but the climax really kinda spoiled it for me. Not because of the effects or the characterization, but for a line it crossed.

    What had up until that point been a lighthearted movie suddenly introduced the idea of kidnapping children and forcing screams out of them.

    Was I the only person who found this completely inappropriate?

    1. Re:Soured at the climax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Was I the only person who found this completely inappropriate?"

      No, I too found it completely innapropriate... that an a** like yourself posts an obvious spoiler to the movie plot.

    2. Re:Soured at the climax by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      SPOLIER! But the important part to come from that climax is the fact that children release more energy when they're happy and laughing. I found the kidnapping and the screaming no worse than Farquaa (sp?) being gobbled up in Shrek or the various fates of the kids in Willy Wonka. Kids have a strong sense of right and wrong - they learn to impose societal rules on it after being exposed to society. I doubt little kids are scared of Randall-type monsters because they know the James Sullivans of the monster world are out there looking after them because, while Boo did get kidnapped, Sully did save her before she could be attacked by the machine.

    3. Re:Soured at the climax by MA17 · · Score: 1

      Placing children in peril, and even sometimes kidnipping them is a pseudo-common device in fairy tales. For example: the Pied Piper, Hansel & Gretel, Sleeping Beauty (A child cursed since birth), and Labyrinth. This kind of thing isn't new and really shouldn't be all that shocking...

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  53. uhm, no. Wired has the scoop on Pixar's internals. by Geek+Dash+Boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wired News: Monsters, Inc. Used Monster Tools.

    Great article (although a little short) on the tools used to create the movie. Modelling is done on SGI workstations, but the final rendering is done on Sun hardware. If you watch the end credits of any Pixar movie, they tell you so.

    Boom! There is your movie.

    If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information? You sure make it sound easy to make a full-length CG movie.

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  54. Saw it last night... by cfinegan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Alright, I saw this movie last night and thought it was awesome! Some people have been saying that it wasn't groundbreaking or that it wasn't up to par with Toy Story, etc. Personally, I don't really care too much about that - I went into the movie looking for a few laughs and got much more than I expected.

    1) The voice acting was great. John Goodman's character (Sully) was hilarious. He had that gentle giant quality about him, due in large part to Goodman's voice presence. This is not to take anything away from Billy Crystal's and Steve Buschemi's characters, but Goodman really carried this film as far as personality.

    2) The animation was good. From a strictly technical point of view, the fur/hair systems were excellent, and the rest of the CG was right up to par with what I was expecting from Pixar. While it didn't really break new ground, I don't know that it really needed to. The graphics were good enough that I really didn't notice them after the first few minutes of the movie.

    3) There is some great cinematography in the movie. The door-riding roller coaster scene was absa-frickin-lutely crazy. I was actually tense watching them hang on and jump from door to door. Various other scenes in the movie make very effective, though less noticable, use of camera angles and colors and composition to give a great sense of feel to the scene.

    4) As was noted in another post, the movie touched on some ethical/moral issues in a very light-hearted, kid-accessible kind of way. That was nice to see.

    5) The animated short, 'For the Birds', at the beginning of the movie had me and my friends rolling. Pixar has a snippet of it up on their web site, but you really should see the whole thing. If you go see this movie, definitely get there in time for the previews. I would pay a couple bucks out of my ticket price just to see that short again. BTW, the snippet is here on the Pixar site.

    Okay, this is getting rather lengthy, so let me stop while I'm ahead. Long story short, I would recommend this movie to anyone with a sense of humor, especially those with kids.

  55. Lets see here... by Ogerman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Pixar represents Disney. Disney represents the SSSCA. Why should I pay to see this movie again?

    1. Re:Lets see here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF?? So disney represents the SSSCA, Pixar represents disney. Why not pay to see it. Sure you may be supporting all the corporate asses, but pirating it hurts those who are at the bottom of the disney/pixar chain, the people who actually make it. If you think something would be good enough to watch, but not pay for it because it's makers support some sort of opressive copyright crap, but would pirate it, you suck. That is weak. But maybe if you wouldn't pay for it if it was some company that didnt support some opressive crap, then maybe I can agree with pirating.

      p.s. Probably not a good idea to listen to this post at all.

    2. Re:Lets see here... by Ogerman · · Score: 2

      I never said you should pirate it. I said why would I spend the extra cash to go see it in theaters (as if it's some big deal in the first place) and support a company most all of us find quite disagreeable. Can someone in their right mind really donate to the FSF/EFF and then turn around and support this? Money talks.

    3. Re:Lets see here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. That's why I bought a ticket to a different movie and walked into Monsters anyway. Fuck Disney and their fucking laws.

  56. Ray Harryhausen by vanyel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fans of animation already know this, but Ray Harryhausen was one of the greats of animation. He brought stop motion animation to an entirely new level with movies like Jason and the Argonauts and 7th Voyage of Sinbad.

    Apparently only a couple of us in the theater last night got the reference that appears briefly in the movie, so I thought I'd mention it for those who haven't heard of him.

    1. Re:Ray Harryhausen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, I was the only one in the movie theatre who caught it (including the four friends and my wife, who went to see it with me). Grrrr. I felt the need to educate them :-)

    2. Re:Ray Harryhausen by scottgfx · · Score: 1

      I had heard about the restaurant before I saw the picture (Perhaps CGW magazine?) but I was the only one to laugh ot loud in the theater when I saw it. Beautiful film! I'm probably going to see it again this week.

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  57. Actually no, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it:
    3 ladies
    2 ladies
    1 lady
    0 ladies?

    1. Re:Actually no, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn you're dumb.

  58. i feel cheated by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    i saw the digital version at one of the two DLP projectors.... i only got to see the star wars trailer, but neither of the much-hyped harry potter or LOTR trailers. did anyone else have such problems?

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    1. Re:i feel cheated by chill · · Score: 1

      Yup, here in Orange City, FL they didn't have the LOTR trailer but did have a long Harry Potter one, Star Wars II, Disney's Snow Dogs and a cartoon short. "For The Birds" by far and away got the most laughs and actually generated applause from the whole audience when it was done.

      My kids (11, 11, 13) now more than ever want to see Harry Potter. They want to see Star Wars, just because it is Star Wars.

      Okay, was it just me, or did that SW short remind anyone of 2001: A Space Oddessy where Kubrick had a scene for like 20 minutes where the only sound was breathing?

      Damn, but I wanted to see the LOTR trailer.

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  59. Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by Strype · · Score: 1

    I've only seen the film once and it happened so quick that I almost missed it. There's a scene towards the end in Boo's bedroom when James is handing Boo various toys to make her stop crying. I thought I saw him hand her a Woody doll from Toy Story. Anyone else catch that?

    1. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      I saw her hand him Jesse, from Toy Story 2, but I didn't see Woody. I kept expecting a cameo from one of the A Bug's Life group, myself...

    2. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by MA17 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure that was just Jessie she handed him, as well as the rubber ball that Buzz bounces off of when he proves he can fly, which was also in the Al's Toy Barn commercial in TS2, which first its start in the short Luxo Jr. (The lamps)

      Didja see the Gallagher reference towards the very end? Monster with a watermellon and a Sledge-o-matic.

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    3. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by Bobo+Kaput · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The trailer where they flung the Buscemi character into near the end was the same trailer that had the Big Bug City beneath it in A Bug's Life, which is where the Pizza Planet Delivery guy from Toy Story lives (the pickup with the rocket on top is parked out side). Yes, I am a Pixar nerd.

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    4. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Yup. I just wonder if Pixar recycles their models as a reference to themselves, or just to save time?

      For instance the floaty-rock canyon at the beginning of Toy Story 2 was the dry riverbed from Bug's Life, with the rocks accidently put in the wrong place. (but they liked that so they kept it)

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    5. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Didja see the Gallagher reference towards the very end?


      That's the name of the comedian! I couldn't think of his name when I pointed it out to my other half...

    6. Re:Anyone catch the Woody cameo? by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 1

      After that he hands her a fish... I wonder if that will be in Finding Nemo. How great would it be to put in references to a movie that isn't out yet ;)

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  60. See it in Digital/THX if you can.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was lucky enough to see a benefit screening of MI last Monday at the Pixar headquarters in Emeryville. The sound was absolutely top-notch, so do yourselves a favor and see it in a theater with a good sound system. They did a great job with various environmental sounds, often quite subtle.

    I assume it was projected digitally, as it was absolutely crystal-clear, with no obvious film artifacts. I spent a lot of time gazing in wonder at the amazing job that the artists did with the hair and fur effects.

    Enjoy!

  61. Monsters Inc != Shrek by MA17 · · Score: 1

    There are only a handful of computer animated feature-length films, and as a result they tend to be compared to one another on that basis alone.

    Anyone who has seen both A Bug's Life and Antz could attest that even though they both feature ants as their main characters, and are both computer animated, their similarities end there. In the same way, comparing Monsters Inc. to Shrek isn't quite right. MI isn't like any other movies around...it's a novel and creative (Pixar's strong suit) approach to childhood fears of monsters in the closet.

    Just a though that maybe movies should be compared to eachother on the grounds of their story or theme, not because they share the same animation tools.

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  62. CG moves to true ANIMATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing I loved most about the movie was the way it seemed to resemble traditional animation. I know that sounds weird, but that's the impression I got. When I looked at the screen it didn't feel like I was looking at a CG film, because of the level of detail. But, it also didn't look like I was looking at actual filmed objects as well. I think that Disney/Pixar have really mastered the art of using CG as the new animation. Great story, great humor. It's been a long time since I went to a film and everyone applauded. Plus, "For The Birds"??? AWESOME! I laughed so hard!!! Great job Pixar! Disney needs to buy these guys SOON!

  63. Does anyone remember.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or does the little green guy with one eye resemble Mr. Bumpy? You know, the star of Bump in the Night who also was short, green, and had a single eye, I believe? I guess not...

    Bump in the Night was an old ABC claymation toon that aired Saturday mornings. Every episode ended with the characters doing karoke. It aired alongside another favorite of mine in my younger days, Reboot.

    Anyone remember Reboot...You know with the guys in your computer and all...

  64. Suspension of disbelief by Broccolist · · Score: 2
    I disagree. We're perfectly right to criticize the keycard scheme. In speculative fiction, there is a crucial difference between things that make sense but are outside current technology (e.g. warp drive, magic doors) and things that are blatantly self-contradictory. The former is necessary to any fantasy; the latter shatters the suspension of disbelief and is a narrative fallacy.

    For example, the keycard scheme, and the magical alien-killing virus in Independence Day were self-contradictory. Even with all the magic in the world it's mathematically illogical to have millions of numbers with 6 digits. And the virus in Independence Day contradicted a basic premise of the film: that it took place in our 1990s Earth, with our computers. Our computers are clearly incapable of communicating with alien systems, let alone infecting them, so that part of a film resulted in a logical contradiction. Which is why everyone found it so painful.

    However, the magic doors are perfectly reasonable and make sense, if you accept as a basic premise of the film that

    • It's not taking place in our universe, so the rules can be different
    • In the film's universe, one of the basic rules is the existence of magic doors leading to other dimensions
    Temporarily accepting these new laws of nature is what is known as suspension of disbelief. So the magic doors are only bothersome to the overly literal-minded, who are unable to step out into another universe for a moment; these are the people that hate all SF, accusing it of being "unrealistic". But the keycard numbers are annoying to everyone, because any universe conceivable by humans must follow the laws of logic; they are a premise that cannot be eliminated.
    1. Re:Suspension of disbelief by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      A better thought out retort that I would have come up with, but it captures my thoughts too.

    2. Re:Suspension of disbelief by pryan · · Score: 1

      Your counter argument to my point is well taken, but there is one fatal assumption that hasn't been addressed: that the keycard number is supposed to be able to address millions of doors. In the face of pure fantasy, where we just accept that there are doors such as those to alternate dimentions, we purport to completely understand what those keycard numbers represent and how they are properly used. In this case, suspension of disbelief also applies to the keycard numbers, as well as the doors themselves. Questioning the use of six digits for what is assumed to be an address space of greater than one million doors is just as silly as questioning how the magical doors work. Since they never really showed any more than them using the keycard to call up a numbered door, it is still in the fantasy domain.

      For those still craving to satisfy logical continuity, did it occur to anyone that the keycard number might not be a simple sequential index, but might be a hash of some other reference value? Sort of like a PGP fingerprint?

    3. Re:Suspension of disbelief by Jeremi · · Score: 2
      Even with all the magic in the world it's mathematically illogical to have millions of numbers with 6 digits.


      Silly slashbots, you are assuming monsters (who have varying number of fingers on their hands, or in some cases no hands at all) would use a base 10 number system.

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    4. Re:Suspension of disbelief by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      Silly slashbots, you are assuming monsters would use a base 10 number system.

      Being that the representative digits had only ten variations, that is a valid assumption.

  65. Re:(mini spoiler)My thoughts... by nachoworld · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i did the opposite yesterday in boston. i had time on early friday afternoon so i saw "monsters inc." and then immediately "the one." i believe i was the only one that laughed when i heard the line "there WILL be only one" near the end of the movie as if exchanging "will" for "can" will make it not a highlander ripoff. but, regardless, anyone can tell it's a highlander ripoff by the trailers and previews.

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  66. Animation Oscar by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Going to be pretty tough this year with Shrek and Monsters, and two decent entries Final Fantasy and Atlantis. In an average year I'd be happy to just have one of these.

    I'd give it to Shrek by a sliver. It had a little more interesting story, humor and computer graphics techniques. I also have a soft spot for musical numbers, a few which were in Shrek.

    1. Re:Animation Oscar by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      I'll probably give it to Shrek.

      Mostly because it had a stronger storyline.

    2. Re:Animation Oscar by scottgfx · · Score: 1

      While there was some truly neat things in Shrek, almost all of the characters had a kind of stiffness to them. What PDI seems to do well is the shaders and lighting. A lot of the images in Shrek had a sense of place, but the movements of the characters are awkward. Pixar seems to bias more towards the characters movements. What I find interesting is that PDI has been around longer than Pixar. I think the Pixar advantage is that there are two people at the top that guide the company. Catmull is the tech genius, and Lasseter is the Disney trained animator. You have a heart and a soul. I'm not sure about the makeup of PDI but I know that they have great tools. I just think they lack a strong animation director. I've also wondered if there is too heavy a hand from Dreamworks. I thought the Disney jabs in Shrek (while funny) seemed forced. I guess we'll see how "Tusker" does for Them.

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  67. That's his nickname by sideshow · · Score: 1

    Goodman character's name is James Sullivan. James's friend, the one eyed green guy, calls him Sully which is short for Sullivan.

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    Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn.

  68. Anyone catch the hidden jokes? by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could swear some things flashed by quickly
    during the initial factory walk-through scene
    and the street store-front scene that were jokes,
    or quick reference to Lucas or Disney works.
    I caught the produce names, but some of the wall
    posters went by so fast, that I'd have to wait for DVD stop motion.

    1. Re:Anyone catch the hidden jokes? by jpellino · · Score: 1

      1. the red/yellow/blue ball from Luxo Jr and Red's Dream (both Pixar shorts) is on Boo's bedroom floor;
      2. Boo hands Sully a bunch of toys, one of which is a Jessie doll from Toy Story 2;
      3. The button that launches the doors is marked "FIZT" - which is the name of the latest animation system that Pixar used for clothing and Sully's fur.
      4. In the final scenes (the redecorated factory floor) the big screen has a small footer that runs the joke - paraphrased - "A man goes to teht doctor and raises his arm over his head, and says 'Doctor - it hurts when I do this.'... and two shots later the screen bottom reads "So the doctor says 'Then don't do that'."

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  69. why pixar makes good movies... by zonker · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There are other exceptins too, but really what Monsters, Inc. has
    done is taken the state of the art CG that pixar has perfected, and
    used it to tell a story. And I think that it might be awhile before a movie comes a long and is able to up the ante as much as Toy Story and Toy Story 2 did. I think this is much more akin to a Bug's Life, where they broke less new ground in the rendering techniques,
    and instead tried to do more with the characters.


    And that is the difference between filmmakers making a movie and videogame producers making a movie... As a filmmaker myself and a fan of movies in general, I hope the people at Square are watching Monsters Inc... There is an attitude in the industry that seems to dominate people's minds saying 'more technology = higher production value = better film'. Unfortunately that equation doesn't work out. The real equation is: 'good writing + good acting + good light, sound and camera work = good film'. Pixar seems to understand this concept. They are fortunate to be able to use new technology for their films, but realize the technology doesn't drive the movie, the script does...

    Of the many movies that come out each year, there are far too few that really understand this concept. Hopefully that will change...

    1. Re:why pixar makes good movies... by malducin · · Score: 1

      I guess yopu haven't heard but Square Pictures seems to have finally bite the dust:

      Square Shamed
  70. It was the teenager from The Simpsons by sideshow · · Score: 1
    The two janitors were highly annoying. They reminded me of characters from another movie/show that I cannot think of right now. They should have been dropped.

    They have the same voice as teenager who's usually working at a fastfood resturant.

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    Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn.

  71. Subtle bits by BWJones · · Score: 3, Informative

    I rather enjoyed watching for the subtle stuff that the animators included like the book titles, posters on the wall in the background and the Powerbook? ad on the back of a magazine cover. Its really quick so you miss it if you are not careful, but any more obvious and it would have been tacky.

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    1. Re:Subtle bits by malducin · · Score: 1

      Actually there were many obvious ones, but some were more inside jokes, you had to know about Pixar and the CG and FX industry. I was about the only person laughing at them at the thatre. The most obvious one was the "Harryhausen" restaurant (as in Ray Harryhausen, stop motion genius). The VR glasses in the TV, when Boo hands over a Jessie doll (from TS2) and the ball Luxo played with to Sulley, a crayon drawing of Mr. potatoe head, and many others. And there are probably tons I missed on a first viewing. I'll probably have to catch it again. They usually do this kind of stuff, there are many references like that in both Toy Stories.

  72. Re:(mini spoiler)My thoughts... by yellowjacket03 · · Score: 1

    When evil Jet says "I am Yulaw, and I'm nobody's bitch! You are mine." I about crapped myself laughing. It's true that it's a Highlander ripoff, but I'd rather see this again than Highlander 2. Zeist? WTF?

  73. Good Movie. by GISboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "For the Birds" was funny...I liked the part with the larger "stork" bird hanging upside down by his toes as the 2 "instigators" were pecking at the stork's toes. The looks on the faces of 1 or 2 of the little birds that "see it coming" when/if the stork lets go of the wire.
    Heh, I've seen that look before...like when Flic knocks over the offering...the eyes get real big and the "OooHhhh, Noooo" escapes.
    (I found it funny because a recovery disk I used one time did its job *too* well...fdisked 2 drives in a heart beat....I said "ooohh, nooo" just like Flic did. Art imitates life, eh?)

    Monsters, Inc. was a very watchable movie and I do recommend it, but it was not as funny as I thought it was going to be.
    It was more of a "smirk and chuckle" than a "laugh hysterically" film.

    Billy Crystal's voice was a decent choice, but a less grating voice would have been better.
    Nathan Lane springs to mind (Timone, from the Lion King). BC and NL have the same vocal qualities, but Lane comes off smoother than Crystal, I think.

    The rendering of the characters was excellent and I kept looking for a "beauty shot" like in Shrek (The lady dragon scenes and when Shrek is yelling at the donkey and you see the air moving over the donkey's fur... that kind of detail)
    I'm fairly shure those kinds of details are there and maybe I missed them....Oh, wait, the close op of Sully on the closet door trolley (the kind like those found in a dry cleaner?) as he moves through the air. Dang, maybe I'll see it again.

    Personally, I wonder what are some of the best voice and screen actors out there.
    Goodman is one, Anthony Hopkins is another who should be added to some of these films as well. Hopkins voice on the tapes in "Hannibal" (and in the movie, too) carries such a presence of *evil* much in the same way Goodman's voice carries a feeling of conviviality/joviality and friendlieness.

    And Frank Oz's talents did not go unnoticed...if only I could place the voices he applied to which characters. That is a tough one.
    Any ideas?

    Overall a good movie. I did wish there was more "scenes" like in the trailers and teasers.
    A little more for the adult audience due to the "chemistry" that Goodman and Crystal have.
    Watch the trailer, then the movie and the "outer Magnolia?, that's outer Mongolia...." bit.

    I guess "Who's on First?" spoiled me, sight, sound and voice gags where even if you miss one or two of the pieces it is still funny, reguardless.

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    1. Re:Good Movie. by epukinsk · · Score: 2

      They are there, they're just subtle. When Sulley landed in the snow just outside of the town, you saw the snowflakes in his fur as it blew in the wind. In general, at any given moment, you can look at Sulley's fur and see something breathtaking.

      -Erik

  74. At the risk of sounding redundant... by Null_Packet · · Score: 1

    Can you do the movie reviews from now on?

  75. People of slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You don't have to see Katz's random bull shittery anymore! Turn him "off" in your preferences/authors settings!

    Thank you,
    dimator

    -katz bull shittery free since '98.

  76. No Outtakes by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen MI yet, but I am glad to hear that there are mo outtakes in the closing credits.

    Now that I've said that, I'll tell you why:

    The outtakes from "A Bugs Life" were fantastic. They were funny. They felt spontanious, like "stuff happens". They also never violated the idea that "A Bugs Life" was a movie about insects, to the point that when Molt knocks the camera over we see that the stage hands are also insects. And most of all, they were unprecedented. Almost no animated movie has ever had "outtakes" in it - animation is just too expensive to have these toss-away jokes.

    The outtakes in "Toy Story 2" (on the DVD, but not the theatrical run) felt forced. They lacked the spontinaity of the Bugs Life outtakes. They felt like it was assumed that they would be there, like there was no choice. Some of them were funny, but the magic that happened in thge "A Bugs Life" outtakes was just not there.

    The "outtakes" on the "Final Fantasy" DVD were just plain dumb. Only "The Sneeze" was funny, and not by much. These "outtakes" felt like they had been done by people who really didn't understand what an outtake really was, but wanted to do them anyway. As jokes for the animators to blow off steam they were okay, but they didn't belong on the DVD.

    I don't want every animated film I see to have outtakes. I don't want filmakers to feel compelled to do them. They are funny the first time someone does them, but like all gags, get old real fast.

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  77. a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    any jokes that I haven't heard in my lifetime are welcome

    ok. your gospel sucked. what'd you do, have cmdr taco edit it?

  78. How the Hair was done. by Naikrovek · · Score: 3, Informative

    RiCurves();

    Curves (as specified in the RenderMan Interface Specification) are curves with no thickness in 3d space. "Attached" to the curves are square faces with normals that always face the camera. Since there is no cross section of the hair, fur or whatever you're rendering (remember this is a line, not a tube or cylinder) rendering time is grealy improved.

    You can literally put tens of thousands of these on a head, or in the case of John Goodman's charachter, its probably in the millions.

    Curves are very simply described, and they render fast, MUCH faster than curved cylinders, which is what most people think they are. You can write shaders to make them look like they shine as hair would, or what have you.

    Judging by the trailer (I haven't seen the film yet) it would look as they're not just hanging hairs either. when he moves, the hairs react. And just from the tiny amount of screen space and screen time that this hair has on the trailer, i can tell you that pixar wrote software to make the reactions believeable. they act as very clean straight hair would - it looks like it anyway - i've never seen a 7 foot tall hairy monster.

    1. Re:How the Hair was done. by Shelrem · · Score: 1

      Well, of course they used RiCurves, all the Renderman hair shaders i've ever seen use RiCurves, but the question is how they got it to look SO much like hair.

      For example, the scene where Sully is in the blizzard, lying on the ground, the interaction between his hair, the snow particles, and the wind just knocks my socks off. It really looks like there's quite some wind turbulance, though i wouldn't be too surprised if it's something simpler, like a couple moving "fans".

      I'll agree that at this point, they only seem to be able to do very clean, very straight hair, but in that domain, it's damn impressive. I think the problem may be hairs interacting with each other-- i couldn't even tell you if there's any collision detection in Sully's hair at all, and self-intersection tests and other collision detection could GREATLY slow down rendering, though i once heard a guy from Pixar saying that if given the option of making it look a little better makes it take significantly longer, Pixar will generally make it look better. Still, given that PRman (Photorealistic Renderman-- Pixar's Renderman renderer) isn't a ray-tracer and thus can't do more realistic reflections, shadows, and refractions (you'll notice that you'll never see two reflective things next to each other in Pixar films because PRman can't handle doing a hall of mirrors without a lot of kluding, or passing the scene off to a different renderer), they obviously have their limits.

      ben.c

    2. Re:How the Hair was done. by mblase · · Score: 2

      A new software package, dubbed "Fizt" (or something similar, I can't find the news article I read Friday) , was created by Pixar for this movie. It generated the fur on Sully, as well as the t-shirt on Boo, as a product of the wind, lighting, and motion in the animated environment automatically. This allowed the animators to concentrate on the animations of the characters themselves, and let the software automatically save them literally weeks at a shot.

      "Fizt" actually appears on one of the buttons used to control the closet doors in the factory. Cute touch.

  79. the Holland 7 by bert_mcdoy · · Score: 1

    hey Taco, remember when the Holland 7 was the Quad? also, I'd say the crappiest theatre in holland is actually the Knickerbocker, although they don't actually play new releases like this, which IMO makes it an even crappier theatre

    1. Re:the Holland 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He meant amsterdam you assclown.

  80. spelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    shouldn't "holland" be capitalized?

  81. Re:uhm, no. Wired has the scoop on Pixar's interna by malducin · · Score: 1

    Well if you want more info on internals just look for all the Pixar papers and course notes from SIGGRAPH and the 2 RenderMan books. Besides the renderMan course notes they have also presented on several FX related courses. Here is a start:

    RenderMan docs

    And those moviews are not easy, they take an average of 3 to 4 years to make. Next one will take place under the sea.

  82. Re:uhm, no. Wired has the scoop on Pixar's interna by malducin · · Score: 2

    Ahh forgot another great article, this one from the best magazine about CG, CGW. Monsters Inc. is the cover story: Monster Mash

  83. Just got back from MI with my son by ellem · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He's 2 this was his review:

    "I liked it but it was sad at the end, the girl was crying. More funny than Toy Story. Can I have juice?"

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  84. According to me by vanguard · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'm not in the movie business but I a modification of your formula.

    The real equation is: 'good writing + good acting + good light, sound and camera work = good film'.

    I would say:
    if (good_writing && good_acting && (good_light && good_sound && good_camera_work)) {
    film = "good";
    else {
    film = "bad";
    }

    What I'm trying to say here is that you need all of these things. Simple addition implies that one area can compensate for another.

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  85. Disney sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I want to go see Monsters, Inc. I don't want to give any money to a company that supports the DMCA, SSSCA, and any other sort of Gestapo like legislation. If you decide you want to see monsters, buy a ticket to a different movie, and then walk in to Monsters instead. That way, you give your money to someone else, and screw Disney in the process.

  86. Re:Looking Inside Pixar's Web Site. by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    That info is from How We Do It" on the Pixar web site.

    Pixar has this thing for procedural shaders, which is what RenderMan is all about. Most non-Pixar high end CG work is done by going out and photographing textures, then mapping them onto models which are then rendered by ray-tracing or radiosity. Pixar does most, if not all, of their textures procedurally. Textures are programmed in a C-like language.

    With texture maps, if you get too close, the texture has to be blown up over multiple pixels and blurred, an ugly effect very familar to gamers. Since Pixar's procedural shaders can be computed at arbitrarily close intervals, Pixar's materials remain clear in extreme close-ups. That's what gives Pixar work that hyper-clear look.

    It's tough to match procedural textures to the real world (although everbody now does water procedurally), which is why RenderMan isn't used much in work that has to match live action.

  87. Some Corrections to postings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here are some correctios to some comments posted.

    1) Disney-Pixar deal is a good deal for both parties...Pixar renegotiated it after Toy Story. Current is 50-50 split after film development and marketing costs...Doubt that Pixar would be able to do better elsewhere...

    2) Trailers...Film Studios are allowed 4 minutes of trailers immediately prior to film. (Often after theatres feature presentation graphic) For MI, the 4 minutes were divided into two 2 minute trailers, one for Disney and one for LucasFilms. If you saw more trailers, they were added by your local theatre and its chain...not Disney/Pixar...

  88. I Should know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live there ... at least i live on the north side ... not as bad as south of the river ... thats where Hope college is ... damn yuppy losers ;)

  89. Embedded in cement @ Pixar's HQ.... by rdean400 · · Score: 1

    "No amount of technology will turn a bad story into a good one."

    Having seen all four of their films, I have to say that they do a marvelous job of holding to that. Start with a great story, and the animation is just the icing on the cake.

  90. A fantastic film for kids & adults by bushda · · Score: 1

    Hey - I'm 32 and I'm starting to like more grown up movies. (A while back I couldn't take going to "Little Vampires." My wife and son went to that while I went to see "Blow.")

    Anyway - this one grabbed my attention, and I'm glad it did. I loved this from start to finish. A simply great story for all ages, and the animation was superb.

    Next kids movie that I'll admit I want to see - Jimmy Neutron. It likewise looks cute as hell.

    For you Star Wars fans out there: If the only reason you were going to watch this is to see the trailer for the next Star Wars movie, save your money. I understand that the longer trailer is going to be on the front of the Harry Potter movie.

    On the topic of the short that preceded the movie - simply fantastic! I saw a bit on this in Computer Graphics World, and wondered when I'd ever get to see it. It's another good short from Pixar that I wish I got to see more of.

    I usually don't gush over films like this, but I honestly enjoyed the film that much. Oh yeah - my 9 year old son did too. :)

    - Dave

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  91. Best part (no spoiler) by KFury · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sully is handing toys from the girl's room to her: A ball from Tin Toy, a Jesse doll from Toy Story 2, and others.

    The guy behind me stage-whispers to his date: "Look, he's giving her props!"

    I couldn't tell if the pun was intentional, or even realized, but it was beautiful either way.

  92. loved it! by AssFace · · Score: 1

    the hair in it was amazing - hell, the lighting was great!

    the short at the start - the birds - that alone was worth admission - the expressions were fantastic.

    I love 3d animation and have done a lot of it, so it makes it that much more impressive.

    the little girl in it was so cute - to do the cartoon feel but add some realism is very impressive.

    Am I the only one that thought the character played by Steve Buscemi (sp?) was EXACTLY like the bad alien in Men in Black (the one they kill near the globe statue at the fairgrounds)??

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  93. Holland? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holland?
    You've seen the movie from a crappy warez CAM early-release, and to excuse the quality, you claim it was a crappy theater in holland...

    Bulls eye on the bull-shit.

  94. Splicing the SWE2 trailer by JonnyO · · Score: 1

    My local theatre (AMC Barrington 30, near Chicago) was able to splice their normal infographics/shorts into the feature between the SWE2 teaser and the Birds short. What makes me curious, however, is if they managed to do this in the other auditorium showing the movie, which uses a DLT projector.

    1. Re:Splicing the SWE2 trailer by JonnyO · · Score: 1

      Oops, I mean DLP projector. DLT would be a backup tape (forgive me, I'm an M2 man myself)

    2. Re:Splicing the SWE2 trailer by Saige · · Score: 1

      The (one) Other auditorium?

      There were 4 there at the Barrington 30 that were showing Monsters, Inc. Two of the big ones (14 & 16, I think), and then two of the smaller ones. I know, because I saw it both Friday and Saturday night (with different friends each night), and happened to catch it only in the two smaller screens (numbers 7 and 12). P'ed me off, I really wanted to see it in the big ones, on the digital projector.

      Oh well.

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  95. FIZT: an easter egg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Monsters Inc., look carefully at the button console that's used to operate the doors. The top-left button, which is pressed repeatedly in the film, says "Fizt".

    Fizt is Pixar's new physical modeling software. The idea of the software is to provide an easy to use interface for the animators so they can concentrate on making the characters believable and humane, and not worry so much about making them photorealistic.

    Anyone else see any other in-jokes or easter eggs?

  96. I preach the word of Gath. by sketerpot · · Score: 1
    Gath commands you to go out and tell people all the wonderful things He will give you. If you don't repent and be made anew in the holiness of Gath, you will burn forever in the flames of Ghemmon.

    Without Gath, you are nothing. You have no hope of surviving without Gath. Humble yourself to Gath and devote your life to His teachings, and you will be saved.

    If you find those preaching the word of Gath to be revolting, then I have serious concerns for your soul.

    Nice troll, though.

  97. Re:Looking Inside Pixar [please ellaborate] by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Pixar's style is a lot different than what we've seen in other full-CG movies including Final Fantasy: TSW and even Shrek

    Very nice, as my college english prof. would say, but how is Pixar's style different? You've described how they go about it, how about an example or two illustrating the process others use.

    Oh, and BTW, break these things up into a few paragraphs. I, for one, cringe when I see these big chunks of text. Thanks.

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  98. Good Points by Naikrovek · · Score: 2

    Yeah it is obvious that they used RiCurves, but some people out there just don't know what they are.

    You're idea about collision detection slowing rendering is not correct though. All of the modelling (all of it) is done in the modeller, or whatever plugins they've created to draw the hair. There is no renderer that does anything to the geometry of an object, other than displacement mapping. No collision detection is done in the renderer, a renderer only renders.

    I'd be willing to lay money on this though: they animated Sully, paying no attention to the hair, then ran their animations through plugins (or other programs to do the tough job of hair animating automagically) then rendered it. And if the hair animation was done with a plugin or external program, doing the snow and wind interaction realistically is much, much less difficult.

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  99. Is it just me... by myov · · Score: 1

    or did I catch an ad for a PowerMac G3 Desktop on the back of the magazine towards the end?

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    1. Re:Is it just me... by 90XDoubleSide · · Score: 1
      It was definitely a fake Apple ad, but I can't tell if it was an actual product or some ridiculously shaped computer they made up, as it was only on for part of a second. I want my DVD now!

      Also, did you notice the "Think Funny" banner in the background in the same scene?

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  100. New MI ride at DisneyLand by bangzilla · · Score: 1

    So I can see it now. The MI themed ride at DisneyLand/Magic Kingdom will be a suspension rollercoaster with a "door" motif. The corridors in which avid riders line up will be decorated as MI corridors (a la the Back to the future ride at Universal). I for one am looking forward to it!

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  101. Never attribute to malice.. by freeweed · · Score: 2
    .. what can be attributed to stupidity. (OK, so sue me if I paraphrase).

    I thought MI was a really topical film; did anyone else notice the Rolling Blackouts headline on the newspaper (obviously a recent addition to the film), or the parallels with Anthrax investigations (when "decontaminating" clothes & buildings from children)?


    I think you're reading far too much into things here. Keeping in mind that most of the entire plot would make no sense if it WASN'T for the Monsters' energy crisis, and their insane fear of 'our' world... well, these 2 items that you mentioned were pretty obviously included from the start. They may have embellished a bit due to recent events, but keep in mind that these types of movies can take years to make. You certainly don't re-write major plot points only a month before release.

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    1. Re:Never attribute to malice.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One point I thought was a little barbed was the "Child Detection Agency" staffed by incompetent boobs who pursued their jobs with a little too much vigor.

  102. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I love shorts before films"

    I love my men without shorts, _after_ the film.

  103. Only three trailers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the Sony Metreon, you get Disney's Snow Dogs (looks awful), Ice Age, Return to Nerver-neverland (sick and wrong), Star Wars II:AOTC, Harry Potter and the For the Birds short.
    That's pratically a movie in itself.

  104. Referance that was missed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when the main characters are on the street corner waiting to cross. The large creature whose foot you can see (he is so big thats all you see) is modeled after the foot in "Bambi vs. Godzilla"