But have they been separated long enough to become reproductively incompatible? For 12000 years, aboriginal Americans were separated from old world humans, but when Columbus sailed, lo and behold the people were reproductively compatible. Australian aborigines were separated even longer, and dingos longer than that if you count generations instead of years, but no speciation occurred.
Reproductive isolation is apparently necessary for speciation, but not sufficient.
Not when the government is recording every transaction and also makes it illegal to circumvent their scrutiny. Send and encrypted email? Against the law. Log onto an anonymizer? Against the law. Using encryption the Government doesn't have the keys to? Against the law. MI5 will be right over.
They would have to fork the code. Then it wouldn't be IE9. When they developed a new browser they made a decision to not support an obsolete operating system. So what?
As usual, the fault in these incidents lie with both sides; the cops, for often being quick to move into "riot control" mode, and the protesters, because they believe that nobody will give a shit about their cause if there aren't at least a few of them with blood pouring down their foreheads.
As for the other 98% of us, we just want to get through the day without being fired, mistaken for a protester or having our stupid ass kids that we've invested so much time, money and emotion into getting involved in these protests.
That would be the other 98% that can't be gotten to take an interest in public affairs until they see blood, right?
And even for industries that do have to worry about both, the people committing counterfeiting (running an unlicensed DVD factory) and piracy (downloading movies) are two different groups with different motivations and different ways of operating, so lumping them together is not helpful.
Also not helpful: lumping together the group of people who board and rob ships with those who download movies.
In America, a student who is good at math, science and CS is called a nerd. In Russia, such a kid is called smart.
Seriously, Russia has always kicked ass in science and math education. We should copy their schools.
How come good free curriculum hasn't emerged? There are a few free curriculum projects out there, but they tend to have low quality, incompatible formats, and make it difficult for people to contribute.
Because there's not incentive for professors and other professionals to participate in the development of such. If you wanted it to happen, you'd make the professors' pay or tenure contingent on their contributing to the development of public-domain curriculum in their discipline.
The left yells you the right is trying to take away your rights. The right tells you the left is trying to take away your rights. They both tell you the other side is wrecking tgr economy. Unless you are paying VERY close attention, it's hard to sort out fact from paranoid fantasy.
No, that is not how GMOs are produced. Genetic engineers insert whole genes from completely different organisms. The inserted gene doesn't even have to come from the same phylum as the original organism. Heck, maybe not even the same kingdom.
In the era of gene patents, that has changed because.
Now GMO pollen can contaminate traditionally-grown stocks and cause the resulting crops to be patent-infringing.
The genes introduced can be genetically engineered and produce plants that are toxic to people or animals. In fact, the latter is often the intent of the engineering. There is now evidence that such engineering has caused collapse of bee colonies.
The genes introduced are not native to the crop into which they are introduced and have an increased risk of causing allergic reactions in people who were not formerly allergic to the crop. Imagine that next year, thanks to your allergy to some weed and the wonders of genetic engineering, you are now also allergic to wheat, corn, soybeans and carrots that contain the popular new plant-pesticide.
Given the level of interest at NASA and other space-exploration-related scientific organizations and institutes, I strongly suspect that the experiment I proposed has been done, but the report on the experiment remains unpublished -- possibly because it came up with the negative result -- no survivors. Publication bias being what it is, NASA and universities and institutes could have tons of unpublished data on this subject. The first data we're likely to hear about is when somebody DOES get a microorganism to reproduce in Mars-like or worse conditions.
And the atmosphere has a completely different composition and density and it's much warmer and it does in fact get precipitation from time to time and large animals such as humans can survive there for extended periods. In other words, aside from practically everything important, it's a lot like Mars.
Actually, we don't KNOW that there's no life on Mars. We just don't know that there is. But we do know of no species (yet) that could survive there. If we find something that could survive there, it'll probably be somewhere that's dry and cold, by Earth standards.
It would be an interesting experiment to take some specimens of the hardiest life forms we can find and subject them to conditions that really are just like the Martian surface and see if there are any that can survive and reproduce.
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I always figured that chimpanzees were closer, considering how prone to violence they are.
So the pigs on Maui are not the same species as the pigs in Iowa?
That doesn't follow. It's possible for different ends of a population chain like that to be genetically incompatible.
But have they been separated long enough to become reproductively incompatible? For 12000 years, aboriginal Americans were separated from old world humans, but when Columbus sailed, lo and behold the people were reproductively compatible. Australian aborigines were separated even longer, and dingos longer than that if you count generations instead of years, but no speciation occurred.
Reproductive isolation is apparently necessary for speciation, but not sufficient.
If it could happen, bonobos would make it happen. Oversexed little bastards...
Not when the government is recording every transaction and also makes it illegal to circumvent their scrutiny. Send and encrypted email? Against the law. Log onto an anonymizer? Against the law. Using encryption the Government doesn't have the keys to? Against the law. MI5 will be right over.
Or, just write standard HTML and don't worry about which browsers support it.
They would have to fork the code. Then it wouldn't be IE9. When they developed a new browser they made a decision to not support an obsolete operating system. So what?
I think they incorrectly predicted what customers wanted.
That's funny. I downloaded it for no charge. WINDOWS costs money. IE is free of charge.
As usual, the fault in these incidents lie with both sides; the cops, for often being quick to move into "riot control" mode, and the protesters, because they believe that nobody will give a shit about their cause if there aren't at least a few of them with blood pouring down their foreheads.
As for the other 98% of us, we just want to get through the day without being fired, mistaken for a protester or having our stupid ass kids that we've invested so much time, money and emotion into getting involved in these protests.
That would be the other 98% that can't be gotten to take an interest in public affairs until they see blood, right?
And even for industries that do have to worry about both, the people committing counterfeiting (running an unlicensed DVD factory) and piracy (downloading movies) are two different groups with different motivations and different ways of operating, so lumping them together is not helpful.
Also not helpful: lumping together the group of people who board and rob ships with those who download movies.
And there's the other end of the problem: school boards are constantly lobbied by the textbook publishers. There's nobody to push the free texts.
In America, a student who is good at math, science and CS is called a nerd. In Russia, such a kid is called smart. Seriously, Russia has always kicked ass in science and math education. We should copy their schools.
How come good free curriculum hasn't emerged? There are a few free curriculum projects out there, but they tend to have low quality, incompatible formats, and make it difficult for people to contribute.
Because there's not incentive for professors and other professionals to participate in the development of such. If you wanted it to happen, you'd make the professors' pay or tenure contingent on their contributing to the development of public-domain curriculum in their discipline.
Left? Right? You're talking about different hands of the same organism, correct? Maybe they are both right.
Just between you and me, that sounds like paranoid fantasy as well.
Decide that nobody really deserves the prize for economics this year.
2%. Count Mark Udall.
The left yells you the right is trying to take away your rights. The right tells you the left is trying to take away your rights. They both tell you the other side is wrecking tgr economy. Unless you are paying VERY close attention, it's hard to sort out fact from paranoid fantasy.
If you don't know the government isn't monitoring you, you must assume they are?
No, that is not how GMOs are produced. Genetic engineers insert whole genes from completely different organisms. The inserted gene doesn't even have to come from the same phylum as the original organism. Heck, maybe not even the same kingdom.
But that's not new. The only part of it that's close to new is the facial recognition software. People used to have to recognize faces visually.
Given the level of interest at NASA and other space-exploration-related scientific organizations and institutes, I strongly suspect that the experiment I proposed has been done, but the report on the experiment remains unpublished -- possibly because it came up with the negative result -- no survivors. Publication bias being what it is, NASA and universities and institutes could have tons of unpublished data on this subject. The first data we're likely to hear about is when somebody DOES get a microorganism to reproduce in Mars-like or worse conditions.
And the atmosphere has a completely different composition and density and it's much warmer and it does in fact get precipitation from time to time and large animals such as humans can survive there for extended periods. In other words, aside from practically everything important, it's a lot like Mars.
Actually, we don't KNOW that there's no life on Mars. We just don't know that there is. But we do know of no species (yet) that could survive there. If we find something that could survive there, it'll probably be somewhere that's dry and cold, by Earth standards.
It would be an interesting experiment to take some specimens of the hardiest life forms we can find and subject them to conditions that really are just like the Martian surface and see if there are any that can survive and reproduce.