Hmm, I'm usually pro apple but in this instance but I'm willing to be turned on this issue. Please convince me that the lower prices amazon would charge aren't part of a loss leading strategy to quash competition, so that they can raise them again afterwards.
So whilst I don't doubt your anecdotal price evidence, do you think amazon pulling a bait and switch could be a possibility?
It always strikes me as the most stupid* thing about boxing: they used to hit the heads so hard, that their hands were bleeding. And what do they decide? Lets protect the HANDS!!
Is that true? I always thought that gloves are used precisely to protect the head.
There's a lot of truth in what you are saying, but it's largely off topic. You have made a sweeping generalisation of about five billon people - analogies of physics just aren't applicable, people are much more complex than that and the definition of religion is far, far more slippery than you are running with.
Believing in some of these myths requires a leap of the imagination - that's the creativity I'm referring to, ie not necessarily waiting before you have all the facts before you leap into danger or commit to a belief etc.
The GP argued that "believer" is a synonym for "unreasonable" and on that issue the GP incorrect. And arrogant. Reeling off a list of facts that many religious people would also refute doesn't change that.
Tom, here is a clue: you can't tar all of the people of the world who happen to have a religious bent with the same brush. You can't say that all such people form a control group of "known wrong specimens". You can't then conclude that when they fail to fall in line with your viewpoint it because they refuse to accept the truth of your rebuttal, no matter how masterful, and not because you happen to be on the wrong side of the argument.
Except here on slashdot apparently you can and get modded up for it.
...that too much analytical thinking can blunt the imagination. If we were a planet of Spock-like logicians, I'm sure there would be an improvement to the human race by some metric, but count me out. I personally know "creative" people: religious types, artsy types etc who color my world in different ways than my IT friends.
Maybe we could all do with a little more analytical thinking, including the slashdot readership, but lets not go too far. Some of my favorite people in history have been lacking in that department, whether it be cocaine snorting musicians, diva movie stars or fearless sports stars.
Hmm I half agree with you but I would make a minor correction: It's amazing how much the moral and ethical standards of Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, google, oracle, Facebook et al have converged, and it is not because Microsoft improved.
If you think I've mentioned somebody who you feel shouldn't be there then at least say why. I've had to include google because like Facebook, I believe they are long term evil to those that value privacy.
Motorola (and other Android vendors) resolve these issues through cross-licensing instead of money.
Be careful what you wish for, springs to mind.
When written in diplomatic language like you have used, it all sounds rather cosy. However all that would happen is that the big guys would still have the same goal, which is to screw the customer for as much money as possible, only they would collaborate with each other more closely to do it. If forced to cooperate, they would game those rules to the max to keep out upstart companies who can't afford the "minimum stake" to enter the game. The (one) positive result of the current rules is that these huge predatory companies have natural enemies, ie themselves.
I agree something has to change but the cross licensing consensus on slashdot seems to be ill thought out.
I know what you're saying but I loved that two color limitation as it inspired a certain graphical creativity that was unique to the spectrum. The analogy would be that yes it's possible to produce a photo realistic animated movie but there's more charm in choosing not to and going with something a little more stylised. Yes I know I'm being overly nostalgic;) Besides, games could have more than two colors but you'd have to be a little more sneaky about it by dividing the screen up into different color zones.
I cant agree that c64 games were always better looking, for example vector graphics based games such as elite and isometric games such as knight lore to my eyes looked superior on the spectrum. They struck me as kind of chunky for want of a better word than on the c64. And c64 sprites also looked squashed and dumpy for some reason. Ymmv.
And that is the most insightful comment so far, one that mentions freedom and risk are fip sides of the same coin. I know you say this in defence of android but it doesn't matter. Too many comments here try to argue that their chosen platform has all of the freedom without any of the risks or that the other teams platform has all of the risks without any of the freedom. But the truth is there are absolutely pros and cons to both sides and each person has to decide where they want to be in the scale.
If Apple (or Disneyland, or anyone else) wants to have a walled garden where you have to play by their rules to get in there, then they have to be liable for what people find there. If you slip on the wet sidewalk at Disneyland that will be totally different than if you do that outside the park
Analogies should be used as starting points for insight to the real world, otherwise they prove nothing, except within the closed world of the analogy itself. For example we might talk about the dangers of leaning out of rides despite instructions not to. Or walking around the park with your wallet sticking out of your back pocket. Or not keeping an eye on your children etc. Seriously you can argue _anything_ for or against Apple by remaining within the confines of the analogy.
So, going back to the real world, quite clearly Apple got it wrong with the original password behavior - I say clearly because they changed that behavior as a result. Therefore the lawsuit has some merit to it. But declaring rather dramatically that chickens have come home to roost over this (fixed) problem, shows that you are more interested in validating your emotional commitment to Android than you are in analysing the situation.
As for Android and the downstream handset manufacturers somehow being legally bulletproof from lawsuits, well I think you underestimate the creativity of lawyers. Give it time.
I had a time capsule that broke on me (I dropped it down the cellar steps, shhhh) and even though it was out of warrenty they just gave me a new one. I'm on my third apple laptop in twelve years, selling each of the previous models for a tidy sum, the build quality and total cost of ownership has been phenomenal for me - and that's why I'm a fanboy.
The guy in TFA has had a shitty experience and there are sure to be others like him, but I think we need to see some numbers and comparisons with competitors. Otherwise it's just an anecdote that's not indicative of widespread behaviour, no better than mine.
half-baked task-switching employed in Windows Phone or iOS
Just a nit because I can sympathise with the thrust of your post. I keep seeing that complaint about task switching, but I never have trouble for example playing music in the background or sending bbc iplayer content to my apple tv whilst doing other stuff. And the way this is implemented on iOS gets me much more battery life, which is what I care about most as a user.
I guess you could accuse it of being "over baked" since a free for all is much easier to implement from an API point of view.
I was shocked a few years ago when I rented a car in Italy and it had a Windows logo on the steering wheel
I just had a nasty daydream where I'm driving round one of those romantic but precarious narrow European mountain tracks. The breaks and steering are beginning to become unresponsive, I then look down and the windows logo catches my eye - oooohhhh fuck!
Slashdot Mirror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJHip7Su5o (SFW)
So whilst I don't doubt your anecdotal price evidence, do you think amazon pulling a bait and switch could be a possibility?
light mayo is the ultimate sauce
I was with you until you mentioned that abomonation.
Tax avoision
Brilliant new word, almost laweresque. Is it a mash up between evasion and avoidance?
rugby football
It always strikes me as the most stupid* thing about boxing: they used to hit the heads so hard, that their hands were bleeding. And what do they decide? Lets protect the HANDS!!
Is that true? I always thought that gloves are used precisely to protect the head.
There's a lot of truth in what you are saying, but it's largely off topic. You have made a sweeping generalisation of about five billon people - analogies of physics just aren't applicable, people are much more complex than that and the definition of religion is far, far more slippery than you are running with.
Believing in some of these myths requires a leap of the imagination - that's the creativity I'm referring to, ie not necessarily waiting before you have all the facts before you leap into danger or commit to a belief etc.
The GP argued that "believer" is a synonym for "unreasonable" and on that issue the GP incorrect. And arrogant. Reeling off a list of facts that many religious people would also refute doesn't change that.
Except here on slashdot apparently you can and get modded up for it.
I can't believe I had to scroll down this far
Yep. Could even use it as a metric for slashdot idiocy.
Maybe we could all do with a little more analytical thinking, including the slashdot readership, but lets not go too far. Some of my favorite people in history have been lacking in that department, whether it be cocaine snorting musicians, diva movie stars or fearless sports stars.
And as someone else pointed out, suppressing books containing ideas they didn't agree with was something the nazis did
Won't somebody think of the Hitler?
Rebuttals are known to not work against believers. Why are you bringing up a proposal for which we have ample evidence of failure?
That's pretty arrogant. Have you thought that maybe it's because you are consistently on the wrong side of the argument? Just a thought.
Oooooh, so ... close ... to Godwins law
Hmm I half agree with you but I would make a minor correction: It's amazing how much the moral and ethical standards of Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, google, oracle, Facebook et al have converged, and it is not because Microsoft improved. If you think I've mentioned somebody who you feel shouldn't be there then at least say why. I've had to include google because like Facebook, I believe they are long term evil to those that value privacy.
Motorola (and other Android vendors) resolve these issues through cross-licensing instead of money.
Be careful what you wish for, springs to mind.
When written in diplomatic language like you have used, it all sounds rather cosy. However all that would happen is that the big guys would still have the same goal, which is to screw the customer for as much money as possible, only they would collaborate with each other more closely to do it. If forced to cooperate, they would game those rules to the max to keep out upstart companies who can't afford the "minimum stake" to enter the game. The (one) positive result of the current rules is that these huge predatory companies have natural enemies, ie themselves.
I agree something has to change but the cross licensing consensus on slashdot seems to be ill thought out.
We don't know if the actions of motorola and apple and Microsoft are related. It could be that motorola are evil all by themselves.
I cant agree that c64 games were always better looking, for example vector graphics based games such as elite and isometric games such as knight lore to my eyes looked superior on the spectrum. They struck me as kind of chunky for want of a better word than on the c64. And c64 sprites also looked squashed and dumpy for some reason. Ymmv.
Not sure of your motivation for watering down history, but the motto was indeed endorsed by google.
Guess what?! Freedom comes with risks!
And that is the most insightful comment so far, one that mentions freedom and risk are fip sides of the same coin. I know you say this in defence of android but it doesn't matter. Too many comments here try to argue that their chosen platform has all of the freedom without any of the risks or that the other teams platform has all of the risks without any of the freedom. But the truth is there are absolutely pros and cons to both sides and each person has to decide where they want to be in the scale.
If Apple (or Disneyland, or anyone else) wants to have a walled garden where you have to play by their rules to get in there, then they have to be liable for what people find there. If you slip on the wet sidewalk at Disneyland that will be totally different than if you do that outside the park
Analogies should be used as starting points for insight to the real world, otherwise they prove nothing, except within the closed world of the analogy itself. For example we might talk about the dangers of leaning out of rides despite instructions not to. Or walking around the park with your wallet sticking out of your back pocket. Or not keeping an eye on your children etc. Seriously you can argue _anything_ for or against Apple by remaining within the confines of the analogy.
So, going back to the real world, quite clearly Apple got it wrong with the original password behavior - I say clearly because they changed that behavior as a result. Therefore the lawsuit has some merit to it. But declaring rather dramatically that chickens have come home to roost over this (fixed) problem, shows that you are more interested in validating your emotional commitment to Android than you are in analysing the situation.
As for Android and the downstream handset manufacturers somehow being legally bulletproof from lawsuits, well I think you underestimate the creativity of lawyers. Give it time.
The guy in TFA has had a shitty experience and there are sure to be others like him, but I think we need to see some numbers and comparisons with competitors. Otherwise it's just an anecdote that's not indicative of widespread behaviour, no better than mine.
half-baked task-switching employed in Windows Phone or iOS
Just a nit because I can sympathise with the thrust of your post. I keep seeing that complaint about task switching, but I never have trouble for example playing music in the background or sending bbc iplayer content to my apple tv whilst doing other stuff. And the way this is implemented on iOS gets me much more battery life, which is what I care about most as a user.
I guess you could accuse it of being "over baked" since a free for all is much easier to implement from an API point of view.
I was shocked a few years ago when I rented a car in Italy and it had a Windows logo on the steering wheel
I just had a nasty daydream where I'm driving round one of those romantic but precarious narrow European mountain tracks. The breaks and steering are beginning to become unresponsive, I then look down and the windows logo catches my eye - oooohhhh fuck!