Using a boat like that to clean up the oil spill in the GOM would be like trying to piss-out a forest fire! Great idea for picking up spillage from naval refueling at sea but the BP spill is way out of it's class.
The problem until now was that they didn't really want to stop the flow. They wanted to continue production. The government is now forcing them to stop the flow and abandon production.
It would be trivial to replace the well head and riser pipes, then they can bore through a cement plug in the existing well casing and restart production again. These types of well kill operations such as bullheading aren't uncommon and reopening the well would be similar to various Workover tasks. The truth is everybody though the well was plugged and capped when it blew anyways.
My neighbor has MS and she went from a wheelchair to working in her garden after a year and a half on vitamin D, her Rheumatologist poo-pooed the very idea of it, now he takes it himself for his RA. Now that summer is coming I'll probably get 1000 IU's till winter comes.
UC Davis team finds need for much higher RDAs A UC Davis research team led by assistant professor Laura M. Hall, Ph.D., made two findings.
Both are sobering in terms of average vitamin D intakes in America and somewhat unsurprising to folks who follow vitamin D research:
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Light-skinned people need at least 1300 International Units (IU) per day during the winter.
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Dark-skinned people need 2100 to 3100 IU per day during the winter and throughout the rest of the year.
The recommendation for light-skinned people holds even if they get abundant sun exposure, so those who get little sun exposure need even more dietary vitamin D.
The well was officially 18,000 feet deep from a 5,000 foot seabed depth and most of the parts used on the well were rated for 15,000 PSI so your in the ballpark; there are rumors that the well was really 22,000 feet.
FTA The following article was written by my associate, by Paul Noel with some editing and input from me.
Paul (Noel) holds three bachelor degrees and one associates degree, in Business Administration, Computer Science, and Applied Science, respectively. His study included: Chemistry, Physics, Biology, Microbiology, Nursing, Business, Statistics, Economics, and Computer Sciences. Paul Noel
Not the best of credentials there. The site the profile of Noel is posted on had an article about "Free energy" and "former CIA directors" on the front page, so there may be a signal to noise problem there as well.
The deepwater horizon is a 5th generation semisubmerisble deepwater drilling rig designed to operate in harsh conditions. The vessel is designed to operate at a water depth of 8,000 ft but can be upgraded to a depth of 10,000 ft. She is the second of two in her class, although her sister ship, the Deepwater Nautilus uses fixed moorings rather than dynamic positioning.... Risers: Vetco HMF-Classs H 21in OD riser; 90 ft long joints with C&K and booster and hydraulic supply lines BOP: 2 x Cameron Type TL 18¾in 15K double preventers; 1 x Cameron Type TL 18¾in 15K single preventer; 1 x Cameron DWHC 18¾in *15K wellhead connector
GE Oil and Gas states:
# 15 or 20 KSI @ 350F # Up to 7.00 MM ft lbs bending # 18-3/4” nominal bore # 2.00 MM lbs 1st position casing hanger capacity # 2.00 MM lbs 16” sub mudline casing hanger capacity FullBore
so I think it's reasonable to assume that the "5 foot" pipe leaking oil is in reality a 18 3/4 inch inner diameter pipe at most if its a piece of broken riser pipe, less if it's the drill pipe (18” and 16” casing strings). I've seen reports that the riser now comes out of the BOP, Blow-out Preventer, goes up for 1,500 feet and is bend back and buried in the sea-floor, so this five foot "pipe" could be the mouth of an Asphalt Volcano forming around the leak, in short the article is at best miss-informed conjector. Also the BP execs were not there to celebrate the well hitting oil, but to give an safety award to the rig for working 7 years without a lost time accident which is much more ironic I think.
You didn't even post the "good" part from your link
Becnel tells me that one of the platform workers has informed him that the BP well was apparently deeper than the 18,000 feet depth reported. BP failed to communicate that additional depth to Halliburton crews, who, therefore, poured in too small a cement cap for the additional pressure caused by the extra depth. So, it blew. The three causes of BP's oil disaster
If that is true, it would explain a lot. Additionally it seems like a simple inventory would reveal whether there was 2 to 4 thousand feet of very expensive pipe unaccounted for.
"This well had been giving some problems all the way down and was a big discovery. Big pressure, *16ppg+ mud weight*. They ran a long string of 7" production casing - not a liner, the confusion arising from the fact that all casing strings on a floating rig are run on drill pipe and hung off on the wellhead on the sea floor, like a "liner". They cemented this casing with lightweight cement containing nitrogen because they were having lost circulation in between the well kicking all the way down. The calculations and the execution of this kind of a cement job are complex, in order that you neither let the well flow from too little hydrostatic pressure nor break it down and lose the fluid and cement from too much hydrostatic. But you gotta believe BP had 8 or 10 of their best double and triple checking everything. On the outside of the top joint of casing is a seal assembly - "packoff" - that sets inside the subsea wellhead and seals. This was set and tested to 10,000 psi, OK. This was the end of the well until testing was to begin at a later time, so a temporary "bridge plug" was run in on drill pipe to set somewhere near the top of the well below 5,000 ft. This is the second barrier, you always have to have 2, and the casing was the first one. It is not know if this was actually set or not. At the same time they took the 16+ ppg mud out of the riser and replaced it with sea water so that they could pull the riser, lay it down, and move off. When they did this, they of course took away hydrostatic on the well. But this was OK, normal, since the well was plugged both on the inside with the casing and on the outside with the tested packoff. But something turned loose all of a sudden, and the conventional wisdom would be the packoff on the outside of the casing. Gas and oil rushed up the riser; there was little wind, and a gas cloud got all over the rig. When the main inductions of the engines got a whiff, they ran away and exploded. Blew them right off the rig. This set everything on fire. A similar explosion in the mud pit / mud pump room blew the mud pumps overboard. Another in the mud sack storage room, sited most unfortunately right next to the living quarters, took out all the interior walls where everyone was hanging out having - I am not making this up - a party to celebrate 7 years of accident free work on this rig. 7 BP bigwigs were there visiting from town. In this sense they were lucky that the only ones lost were the 9 rig crew on the rig floor and 2 mud engineers down on the pits." TRANSOCEAN DEEPWATER HORIZON EXPLOSION-A DISCUSSION OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED? Reply by Garry Denke on May 4, 2010 at 6:06pm
The "kicks" he's talking about are pressure surges from gas in the well, so everybody knew what the well was doing because it was kicking all the way down, so no surprises there. The well was drilled, Halliburton was contracted to cement the casing which was done and tested and they were pumping out the mud from the riser pipe and filling it with seawater when the explosion occurred. The riser pipes is rated for 15,000 PSI and have a 3.5 million pound load-carrying capacity, between these riser pipes and the blowout preventer is a connector device rated for 7 million foot-pounds of bending load capacity. Right now this riser pipe comes out of the well head goes up 1500 feet and is bent over and the free end is now buried in the seabed. I don't see where they were cutting costs too much. Deepwater Horizon would probably have disconnected from the well and moved on in a day or two if there hadn't been an explosion.
I'm completely unaware of Dr. Jones being cleared of wrong doing, it it my understanding that Dr. Jones was not prosecuted because the British Freedom of Information laws have a 6 month statute of limitation,
... CRU head Phil Jones had tried to illegally shield data and correspondence from disclosure requests made under the U.K.’s Freedom of Information laws. Jones stepped down from his position in December while investigations are underway.
Now Britain’s Information Commissioner’s Office says CRU probably broke the law, but that Jones and other officials won’t be prosecuted because more than 6 months have passed since the alleged breach. “The legislation prevents us from taking any action but from looking at the emails it’s clear to us a breach has occurred,” an ICO spokesman told The Times. Climatic Research Unit Broke British Information Law
which is a far cry from being cleared of any wrong doing. As far as Mann, I don't see how the prosecutor having ulterior motives is germane if he is convicted, he was a public servant on a public or at least partially public payroll and shouldn't the public be able to expect their employees work in a forthright and honest manner for their pay?
Whether a flow is turbulent or laminar is irrelevant to whether the system is chaotic, the Navier–Stokes equations that model it remains the same. It's unfortunate that the word chaos is so ingrained because it's popular meaning and it's scientific meaning have so little in common, just like how greenhouse gases effect a planets temperature in a manner so different from how a greenhouse really works. The climates models assume regularity where it doesn't exist, for example they assume CO2 is well mixed in the atmosphere, where in reality CO2 is not well mixed.
Actually it's the ability to produce fertile offspring that defines a species, but it's very possible for a virus to pick-up a gene form one organism and deposit it into another. Bacteria like Agrobacterium frequently pick-up and deposit genetic material (Horizontal gene transfer)amongst what ever is lying around, especially plants. It's plausible that Agrobacterium could pick-up the gene and carry it to other plants.
Chaos is a property of a system that frequently transcends scale (Self-similarity), weather is an instance of climate, therefore if weather is chaotic, climate is chaotic. While in some chaotic systems a small perturbation yields wild swings, in others large pertrubations are quickly dampened out. Climatologist hate chaos because
Chaos theory is a field of study in mathematics, physics, and philosophy studying the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. This sensitivity is popularly referred to as the butterfly effect. Small differences in initial conditions (such as those due to rounding errors in numerical computation) yield widely diverging outcomes for chaotic systems, rendering long-term prediction impossible in general.[1] Chaos Theory
it makes everything they are building their careers on pointless. Yet they can't seem to stay away from it, every time a climatologist says "forcings", "feedbacks" or "trip-points" they are talking about aspects of chaotic systems.
Jones/Mann has serious credibility issues and anything they published is unlikely to sway most skeptics. Jones would might have been persecuted for violation of the British Freedom of Information laws had the statute of limitations (6 months!) not run out, and Mann is under criminal investigation by Virginia for defrauding the taxpayers mostly for receiving public grants to produce the work you cited!
Nobody knows what caused the anomally known as the MWP but the fact that it was regional rules out the sun and other global phenomena.
Mounting research points to the MWP as a global event
This survey makes a very clear. The time of the High Middle Ages, that is 1000-1300, it was almost everywhere in the world warmer than today. There were periods of warming, the 0.6 degree Celsius rise in temperature in the 20 Century, something more dramatic and completely without the man had on the increased emission of the supposed "climate killer" CO2 taken to influence. The statement that there was the Medieval warm period either not given or it was simply a localized phenomenon was, it can safely be regarded as untenable. Unprecedented warming, unprecedented data manipulation?
But if climate is really as unstable as a global MWP would indicate, then all bets are off, and perturbation of climate is far more dangerous than climate scientists currently believe.
The planet seems to have a temperature range that acts as a strange attractor,
The global-average lower tropospheric temperature continues warm: +0.50 deg. C for April, 2010, although it is 0.15 deg. C cooler than last month. The linear trend since 1979 is now +0.14 deg. C per decade. APRIL 2010 UAH Global Temperature Update: +0.50 deg. C
The MWP wasn't much when viewed in perspective of many cycles on different periods that sometime interfere constructively or destructively with each other; even today the warming that caused all of the concern is reversing. Heading into a cool period lasting for 30 years or so wouldn't surprise me, Oceanenergy is down, no reason to get stupid on either side of the debate, the data just doesn't support a catastrophe right now.
The CPU likely started running at 1.79 Mhz, but they've probably dialed that down to save power decades ago; unlikely any form of error-detection was used.
That makes sense now but the Voyager probably had a RCA CDP 1802 processor which typical ran from 1.78 Mhz down to single-stepping by pushing the switch with your finger! There is only so much you can do with that, especially when memory was probably ferrite core.
Pissaw, young'uns don't know anything anymore; more likely a fried 1452 core sense amplifier. That bad-boy left Earth back when a 1024 Bit, 500 mS static ram was exotic, and yes that is bits not bytes and milliseconds not nanoseconds. Ferrite Core memory was the state of the art back in 1977, when hard-disk drives were the size of washing machines and I was a young'un myself punching Fortran code on to cards.
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Since the microorganisms use up oxygen to digest the oil the answer is yes and yes.
Do you mean like BOB the Big Ol' Battery in Presidio Texas?
Using a boat like that to clean up the oil spill in the GOM would be like trying to piss-out a forest fire! Great idea for picking up spillage from naval refueling at sea but the BP spill is way out of it's class.
The problem until now was that they didn't really want to stop the flow. They wanted to continue production. The government is now forcing them to stop the flow and abandon production.
It would be trivial to replace the well head and riser pipes, then they can bore through a cement plug in the existing well casing and restart production again. These types of well kill operations such as bullheading aren't uncommon and reopening the well would be similar to various Workover tasks. The truth is everybody though the well was plugged and capped when it blew anyways.
My neighbor has MS and she went from a wheelchair to working in her garden after a year and a half on vitamin D, her Rheumatologist poo-pooed the very idea of it, now he takes it himself for his RA. Now that summer is coming I'll probably get 1000 IU's till winter comes.
I take 2000 IU a day and generally feel much better.
The riser pipe has an inner diameter of 18 3/4 inches, the well pipe inside is probably around 10 inches ID.
so either there's a huge cover-up going or, or that dude is full of shit.
All of the above seems more likely.
The well was officially 18,000 feet deep from a 5,000 foot seabed depth and most of the parts used on the well were rated for 15,000 PSI so your in the ballpark; there are rumors that the well was really 22,000 feet.
FTA The following article was written by my associate, by Paul Noel with some editing and input from me.
Not the best of credentials there.
The site the profile of Noel is posted on had an article about "Free energy" and "former CIA directors" on the front page, so there may be a signal to noise problem there as well.
GE Oil and Gas states:
so I think it's reasonable to assume that the "5 foot" pipe leaking oil is in reality a 18 3/4 inch inner diameter pipe at most if its a piece of broken riser pipe, less if it's the drill pipe (18” and 16” casing strings). I've seen reports that the riser now comes out of the BOP, Blow-out Preventer, goes up for 1,500 feet and is bend back and buried in the sea-floor, so this five foot "pipe" could be the mouth of an Asphalt Volcano forming around the leak, in short the article is at best miss-informed conjector. Also the BP execs were not there to celebrate the well hitting oil, but to give an safety award to the rig for working 7 years without a lost time accident which is much more ironic I think.
You didn't even post the "good" part from your link
If that is true, it would explain a lot. Additionally it seems like a simple inventory would reveal whether there was 2 to 4 thousand feet of very expensive pipe unaccounted for.
The "kicks" he's talking about are pressure surges from gas in the well, so everybody knew what the well was doing because it was kicking all the way down, so no surprises there. The well was drilled, Halliburton was contracted to cement the casing which was done and tested and they were pumping out the mud from the riser pipe and filling it with seawater when the explosion occurred. The riser pipes is rated for 15,000 PSI and have a 3.5 million pound load-carrying capacity, between these riser pipes and the blowout preventer is a connector device rated for 7 million foot-pounds of bending load capacity. Right now this riser pipe comes out of the well head goes up 1500 feet and is bent over and the free end is now buried in the seabed. I don't see where they were cutting costs too much. Deepwater Horizon would probably have disconnected from the well and moved on in a day or two if there hadn't been an explosion.
I'm completely unaware of Dr. Jones being cleared of wrong doing, it it my understanding that Dr. Jones was not prosecuted because the British Freedom of Information laws have a 6 month statute of limitation,
which is a far cry from being cleared of any wrong doing. As far as Mann, I don't see how the prosecutor having ulterior motives is germane if he is convicted, he was a public servant on a public or at least partially public payroll and shouldn't the public be able to expect their employees work in a forthright and honest manner for their pay?
Whether a flow is turbulent or laminar is irrelevant to whether the system is chaotic, the Navier–Stokes equations that model it remains the same. It's unfortunate that the word chaos is so ingrained because it's popular meaning and it's scientific meaning have so little in common, just like how greenhouse gases effect a planets temperature in a manner so different from how a greenhouse really works. The climates models assume regularity where it doesn't exist, for example they assume CO2 is well mixed in the atmosphere, where in reality CO2 is not well mixed.
Actually it's the ability to produce fertile offspring that defines a species, but it's very possible for a virus to pick-up a gene form one organism and deposit it into another. Bacteria like Agrobacterium frequently pick-up and deposit genetic material (Horizontal gene transfer)amongst what ever is lying around, especially plants. It's plausible that Agrobacterium could pick-up the gene and carry it to other plants.
Chaos is a property of a system that frequently transcends scale (Self-similarity), weather is an instance of climate, therefore if weather is chaotic, climate is chaotic. While in some chaotic systems a small perturbation yields wild swings, in others large pertrubations are quickly dampened out. Climatologist hate chaos because
it makes everything they are building their careers on pointless. Yet they can't seem to stay away from it, every time a climatologist says "forcings", "feedbacks" or "trip-points" they are talking about aspects of chaotic systems.
I never touched that cat LOL
Jones/Mann has serious credibility issues and anything they published is unlikely to sway most skeptics. Jones would might have been persecuted for violation of the British Freedom of Information laws had the statute of limitations (6 months!) not run out, and Mann is under criminal investigation by Virginia for defrauding the taxpayers mostly for receiving public grants to produce the work you cited!
Nobody knows what caused the anomally known as the MWP but the fact that it was regional rules out the sun and other global phenomena.
Mounting research points to the MWP as a global event
I think more research is needed on the MWP.
But if climate is really as unstable as a global MWP would indicate, then all bets are off, and perturbation of climate is far more dangerous than climate scientists currently believe.
The planet seems to have a temperature range that acts as a strange attractor,
The MWP wasn't much when viewed in perspective of many cycles on different periods that sometime interfere constructively or destructively with each other; even today the warming that caused all of the concern is reversing. Heading into a cool period lasting for 30 years or so wouldn't surprise me, Ocean energy is down, no reason to get stupid on either side of the debate, the data just doesn't support a catastrophe right now.
Adding Catastrophic in front of Apocalyptic Global Warming is redundant.
The CPU likely started running at 1.79 Mhz, but they've probably dialed that down to save power decades ago; unlikely any form of error-detection was used.
That makes sense now but the Voyager probably had a RCA CDP 1802 processor which typical ran from 1.78 Mhz down to single-stepping by pushing the switch with your finger! There is only so much you can do with that, especially when memory was probably ferrite core.
Pissaw, young'uns don't know anything anymore; more likely a fried 1452 core sense amplifier. That bad-boy left Earth back when a 1024 Bit, 500 mS static ram was exotic, and yes that is bits not bytes and milliseconds not nanoseconds. Ferrite Core memory was the state of the art back in 1977, when hard-disk drives were the size of washing machines and I was a young'un myself punching Fortran code on to cards.