You're the guy who said "it's a marketing ploy" and now you are talking about fair comparisons?
You make a fine point so mabye I should clarify what I'm trying to say. "Unbreakable" is a marketing ploy, you would be foolish to believe that the software is perfect. However the marketing was (and this is speculative) aimed at microsofts products with a poor security record, another slashdotter pointed out that Oracle set themselves up for a comparison with microsoft products by doing this campaign. Personally I don't consider Oracle and SQLServer in the same league (although I realise many do) I don't think it's a fair comparison.
Obviously, if multiple platforms was as important as you say, Oracle would have a different slogan!
Surprisingly enough, the importance of certain features of software is not always reflected in their slogans.
Whats your point? Linux has to deal with a ton of different hardware specs and API's whilst Oracle has to deal with a ton of OS specs and API's. I don't see how your comment supports an argument either way as to whether an Oracle/SQLServer comparison is fair or not.
Considering that, and the flamage over security that MS has recieved over the last year, it's no wonder that journalists (and/.) are jumping over the story. They set themselves up for the comparison.
Yes they may have set themselves up but to make a fair comparison you also have to realize that Oracle runs on 60 operating systems whereas SQLServer runs on ohhhh, NT.
Personally I'd be pretty worried about running software on my phone unless it came from someone who I trust. I wonder how long it'll be before we see the first wireless worms with systems like this, I notice on their game engine page they mention WGE System allowing access to system resources. I wanted to find out exactly what this was but I couldn't find a link to their "open API" docs (mabye I'm blind) and I'm not really prepared to download their SDK for the priviledge.
I don't see much of a market for these kind of applications right now and I'm pretty content only playing games on my PC, but I suppose once the technology gets better I might give it a try. Having said that I had a flatmate who would spend hours sitting in a corner playing "snake" with his phone (yes haha very original, now get your mind out of the gutter) so perhaps theres more of a market than I think. The closest I came to playing wireless games would have to be wap elite which is a wap version of the classic game Elite. Oh and if you don't know Elite you are not a true nerd;-)
It was a marketing ploy and any professional administator who looked at and said "wow, unbreakable, lets buy it" probably wasn't a professional at all.
It's not surprising that a system as complex as Oracle is going to have security flaws. However if you mistaken believed that Oracle had created the perfect piece of software, may I suggest you stow it away in the closet next to your Abdominizer and set of stay-sharp-steak-knives.
Yes it seems like they'll leave it in, however realise that this kind of thing is "standard" for a lot of high-end software, i.e. software which costs a fortune to buy. It's no big deal really.
but I always am surprised when I hear these stories of how long bacteria can survive outside of normal conditions. 31 months on the moon, 4800 years in peruvian pyramids, 11000 years in a dead mastodon (extinct mammal sort of like an elephant), and (mabye) 300 million years in coal!
Yes of course this situation would annoy me (and flatter me a little as well) but I don't think it would push me to develop my own form of vigilante justice over the situation. Stealing software is rationalizeable to many people because it is a Robin-Hood-like crime, they a robbing from the rich and giving to the poor (themselves).
To combat this Big Business tries to make piracy into the ultimate evil of the information age, you can believe that if you want but I just don't accept their view. $150,000 fine is just fucking madness, I think it's completely unjustified and the BSA knows it would rarely get that money i.e. most small businesses would go bust beforehand. The real reason
of a fine that size is that it as used as a scare tactic, I wouldn't be surprised if they would threaten to cut off your pinky if they could get away with it legally. Personally I wish someone would sue the BSA for barratry.
Special police forces for industry interest groups are wrong, and this is what the BSA effectivly has.
I pay $10. Since the ISP that offers DSL doesn't allow any servers, always on is no big deal to me. If they raised the ante to 256 or 512 and allowed servers I probably would but at the moment it seems like a better bet to wait for cable.
Oh I should mention that I can get DSL service now but it costs me US$30 for 128Mb/s which I think is a bit over-the-top. I'm thinking of moving to Germany next year, I hear they have pretty cheap bandwidth compared to most of the world, gotta be better than 128Mb/s anyhow.
I think one of the largest problems is the waiting period. Realistically people just don't want to have to wait so long to get up and running with a broadband service.
My personal experience was with satellite broadband, I had to wait 4 weeks before the dish can be installed and then the installer couldn't configure the card properly in my PC.
The second problem I've encountered has been bandwidth caps. I'm back to a 56K now since the satellite company put a download cap of 500MB/month (yes MB). which meant I could blow through the monthly cap in about, oh, 40 minutes!
The end result from this is that people who have had experiences like me will recommend that others don't get broadband because it's not worth the hassle right now.
I admit being able to print your own circuits would be pretty cool for the amateur hobbyist, or even the security conscious -- cheap electronic one-time-pads for example. But I guess it'll be out of my price line for a while yet.
I'm wondering how robust these circuits are going to be, i.e. how long are they going to last and how sensitive they have to be handled. Couldn't seem to find this info in the article.
So how well do you think it would be recieved if the Free Software Foundation went around threatening businesses in a similar way the BSA does. Would you be surprised if they hired US Marshalls and seized developers PC's to make sure there was no GPL violations. Hell, I would.
I agree that there should be contols in place to prevent software piracy, however threats and scare tactics should not be the standard policy. On the other hand, I think you are right that harsh and unfair punishment and tactics on their part are likely to lead more people to free software solutions in the end. However I'm still not going to agree with the means.
Gee I went to their GASP download page but could only find the versions for 9x, NT and OS8.0 what about people with real^H^H^H^H alternative OS's? I suppose anyone running OSX or linux can just grease up and bend over.
Oh and I hope they encoded those mp3's with a legal codec;-)
Yes it's fair to say that apple actually does innovate, the shame is that most people will still stick with PC's because they are too afraid to make the paradigm shift.
Personally OSX has made it a lot easier for me to make the shift, but really I'm now faced with the choice of; should I pay an extra $500 for OSX vs linux?
Probably not until they ship a proper mouse by default at least;-)
Yes but at 80 quadrillion dollars per pound it seems a bit expensive at the moment, however perhaps we should also be looking for the dilitium crystals to control the reaction otherwise how can we mix them?
Because the majority of new players use the sniper rifle as their weapon of choice because they are too inept to use anything else and think getting a kill for every 10 deaths is good for a newbie. Theres no skill involved, just hope that they won't be spotted befor they get a kill.
Then there is the other type of sniper who is experienced with other weapons and who will only pull out the sniper rifle to mess with you, like when you get killed out of nowhere 5 times in a row and still have know idea where they are. OK so this guy isn't "lame" but at least frustrating.
Well I haven't played Q3 since I finished Uni (hey those iMacs where good for something after all) but if I remember it right you could usually see where the person with the railgun was because it left a trail. UT didn't have this but now UT2 will.
I don't really have a problem with snipers, I just found it amusing what they where replacing the sniper rifle with.
BTW does anybody know how horrible it is to play FPS games with only one mouse button!
The sniper rifle has been replaced by an "instant hit lightning gun" which does the same thing. Oh man that sucks I always liked the sniper rifle, I thought it was a nice touch compared to all the sci-fi weapons. Besides which "I sniped that bitch between the eyes" has a nicer ring to it than "I insta-lightninged the sucker".
The article says that it makes the snip^H^H^H^H intant-hit-lightning-gunner more visible, I suppose this is some justification because we all know sniping is lame;-)
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You're the guy who said "it's a marketing ploy" and now you are talking about fair comparisons?
You make a fine point so mabye I should clarify what I'm trying to say. "Unbreakable" is a marketing ploy, you would be foolish to believe that the software is perfect. However the marketing was (and this is speculative) aimed at microsofts products with a poor security record, another slashdotter pointed out that Oracle set themselves up for a comparison with microsoft products by doing this campaign. Personally I don't consider Oracle and SQLServer in the same league (although I realise many do) I don't think it's a fair comparison.
Obviously, if multiple platforms was as important as you say, Oracle would have a different slogan!
Surprisingly enough, the importance of certain features of software is not always reflected in their slogans.
Whats your point? Linux has to deal with a ton of different hardware specs and API's whilst Oracle has to deal with a ton of OS specs and API's. I don't see how your comment supports an argument either way as to whether an Oracle/SQLServer comparison is fair or not.
Considering that, and the flamage over security that MS has recieved over the last year, it's no wonder that journalists (and /.) are jumping over the story. They set themselves up for the comparison.
Yes they may have set themselves up but to make a fair comparison you also have to realize that Oracle runs on 60 operating systems whereas SQLServer runs on ohhhh, NT.
d) it takes too long to key out "suck on my rocket bitch, yeahhh you like that!" on your cellphone
Personally I'd be pretty worried about running software on my phone unless it came from someone who I trust. I wonder how long it'll be before we see the first wireless worms with systems like this, I notice on their game engine page they mention WGE System allowing access to system resources. I wanted to find out exactly what this was but I couldn't find a link to their "open API" docs (mabye I'm blind) and I'm not really prepared to download their SDK for the priviledge.
;-)
I don't see much of a market for these kind of applications right now and I'm pretty content only playing games on my PC, but I suppose once the technology gets better I might give it a try. Having said that I had a flatmate who would spend hours sitting in a corner playing "snake" with his phone (yes haha very original, now get your mind out of the gutter) so perhaps theres more of a market than I think. The closest I came to playing wireless games would have to be wap elite which is a wap version of the classic game Elite. Oh and if you don't know Elite you are not a true nerd
It was a marketing ploy and any professional administator who looked at and said "wow, unbreakable, lets buy it" probably wasn't a professional at all.
It's not surprising that a system as complex as Oracle is going to have security flaws. However if you mistaken believed that Oracle had created the perfect piece of software, may I suggest you stow it away in the closet next to your Abdominizer and set of stay-sharp-steak-knives.
Yes it seems like they'll leave it in, however realise that this kind of thing is "standard" for a lot of high-end software, i.e. software which costs a fortune to buy. It's no big deal really.
but I always am surprised when I hear these stories of how long bacteria can survive outside of normal conditions. 31 months on the moon, 4800 years in peruvian pyramids, 11000 years in a dead mastodon (extinct mammal sort of like an elephant), and (mabye) 300 million years in coal!
Yes of course this situation would annoy me (and flatter me a little as well) but I don't think it would push me to develop my own form of vigilante justice over the situation. Stealing software is rationalizeable to many people because it is a Robin-Hood-like crime, they a robbing from the rich and giving to the poor (themselves). To combat this Big Business tries to make piracy into the ultimate evil of the information age, you can believe that if you want but I just don't accept their view. $150,000 fine is just fucking madness, I think it's completely unjustified and the BSA knows it would rarely get that money i.e. most small businesses would go bust beforehand. The real reason of a fine that size is that it as used as a scare tactic, I wouldn't be surprised if they would threaten to cut off your pinky if they could get away with it legally. Personally I wish someone would sue the BSA for barratry.
Special police forces for industry interest groups are wrong, and this is what the BSA effectivly has.
I pay $10. Since the ISP that offers DSL doesn't allow any servers, always on is no big deal to me. If they raised the ante to 256 or 512 and allowed servers I probably would but at the moment it seems like a better bet to wait for cable.
Whoops, yes you are right I meant 128kb/s of course thanks for pointing it out ;-)
Oh I should mention that I can get DSL service now but it costs me US$30 for 128Mb/s which I think is a bit over-the-top. I'm thinking of moving to Germany next year, I hear they have pretty cheap bandwidth compared to most of the world, gotta be better than 128Mb/s anyhow.
I think one of the largest problems is the waiting period. Realistically people just don't want to have to wait so long to get up and running with a broadband service.
My personal experience was with satellite broadband, I had to wait 4 weeks before the dish can be installed and then the installer couldn't configure the card properly in my PC.
The second problem I've encountered has been bandwidth caps. I'm back to a 56K now since the satellite company put a download cap of 500MB/month (yes MB). which meant I could blow through the monthly cap in about, oh, 40 minutes!
The end result from this is that people who have had experiences like me will recommend that others don't get broadband because it's not worth the hassle right now.
Yes you can use winzip to read tar.gz files actually.
I admit being able to print your own circuits would be pretty cool for the amateur hobbyist, or even the security conscious -- cheap electronic one-time-pads for example. But I guess it'll be out of my price line for a while yet.
I'm wondering how robust these circuits are going to be, i.e. how long are they going to last and how sensitive they have to be handled. Couldn't seem to find this info in the article.
So how well do you think it would be recieved if the Free Software Foundation went around threatening businesses in a similar way the BSA does. Would you be surprised if they hired US Marshalls and seized developers PC's to make sure there was no GPL violations. Hell, I would.
I agree that there should be contols in place to prevent software piracy, however threats and scare tactics should not be the standard policy. On the other hand, I think you are right that harsh and unfair punishment and tactics on their part are likely to lead more people to free software solutions in the end. However I'm still not going to agree with the means.
Gee I went to their GASP download page but could only find the versions for 9x, NT and OS8.0 what about people with real^H^H^H^H alternative OS's? I suppose anyone running OSX or linux can just grease up and bend over.
;-)
Oh and I hope they encoded those mp3's with a legal codec
Yes it's fair to say that apple actually does innovate, the shame is that most people will still stick with PC's because they are too afraid to make the paradigm shift.
;-)
Personally OSX has made it a lot easier for me to make the shift, but really I'm now faced with the choice of; should I pay an extra $500 for OSX vs linux?
Probably not until they ship a proper mouse by default at least
so what about shred then? From the man page:
Delete a file securely, first overwriting it to hide its contents.
By default it overwrites it 25 times, IIRC DoD standard is 7 times so it should be enough.
check out this article, look at the last paragraph
Yes but at 80 quadrillion dollars per pound it seems a bit expensive at the moment, however perhaps we should also be looking for the dilitium crystals to control the reaction otherwise how can we mix them?
Because the majority of new players use the sniper rifle as their weapon of choice because they are too inept to use anything else and think getting a kill for every 10 deaths is good for a newbie. Theres no skill involved, just hope that they won't be spotted befor they get a kill.
Then there is the other type of sniper who is experienced with other weapons and who will only pull out the sniper rifle to mess with you, like when you get killed out of nowhere 5 times in a row and still have know idea where they are. OK so this guy isn't "lame" but at least frustrating.
Well I haven't played Q3 since I finished Uni (hey those iMacs where good for something after all) but if I remember it right you could usually see where the person with the railgun was because it left a trail. UT didn't have this but now UT2 will.
I don't really have a problem with snipers, I just found it amusing what they where replacing the sniper rifle with.
BTW does anybody know how horrible it is to play FPS games with only one mouse button!
The sniper rifle has been replaced by an "instant hit lightning gun" which does the same thing. Oh man that sucks I always liked the sniper rifle, I thought it was a nice touch compared to all the sci-fi weapons. Besides which "I sniped that bitch between the eyes" has a nicer ring to it than "I insta-lightninged the sucker".
;-)
The article says that it makes the snip^H^H^H^H intant-hit-lightning-gunner more visible, I suppose this is some justification because we all know sniping is lame
You mean Judge Gates style of course...