I also want to keep read-news in sync (gmane, etc)
Also read-mail in sync. Thunderbird does IMAP badly, Outlook Express did a better job, and emails marked as read on one machine are then marked as read on another machine even if the messages have already been downloaded on the other computer. I use thunderbird exclusively now.
(1)You are engaging in numerous logical fallacies that make your argument completely irrelevant to this, the real world.
or, possibly not. By "your science" I didn't mean the link you referred to but what you pesonally might term "your science" (whatever that might be.) Further most of your statements "you imply" are falatious.
(2)You imply science teaches something it does not: that "today's facts will always be overturned
I do not imply this and your emphasis was wrong. The whole debate is of what constitutes a "fact"? Being able to tell later that something wasn't a fact becuase it has been overturned is small comfort, science or no. Relativity has overturned the facts of newtonian motion. We now know newtonian motion was not as factual as it was/often/ taught. Plainly we see that the indiscernable "facts" of science as we receive them are as much a matter of faith as stock market investment or religion. There is no shame in this.
The implication is that all scientific theories are discarded.
(2,3) No, the implication is that you aren't able to tell which scientific theories will be discarded, and so until that point much of science is a matter of faith, and then subseqent certainty (nor is it certain?) of having been wrong all along is of no consolation. The rest of your paragraph does not follow. I don't know if you are staw-man-ing me on purpose or out of habit, of if it's just co-incidence. There is no truly emperical data, either, or if there is, its hard to agree on what it is. It would be nice if it were otheriwse but it isn't.
(4)I don't imply this but the counter-arguments available from google indicate that the premise "if the book of mormon is true AND various un-claimed suppositions on the book of mormon colonisers AND other unknown inhabitants of america are true THEN it contradicts some interpretations of DNA expectations." The cited counter-arguments make this case better than I do, but the summary is mine, that:
1)the opinion you cited based on DNA "evidence" and "theory" are based on what is now out-dated DNA theory, including the mixing and mutation rates, and the case that the very DNA evidence to support the book of mormon may have been rejected from the studies because it was too similar to european DNA, and that studies fail to take into account the large-scale deaths of many native americans such that those left are likely to have some DNA advantage that preserves them from european disease
2)As far as we know only ONE book of mormon ancestor can be said to be Jewish in anyway; I'd saying that the DNA expectations put forward as a straw man have do not have the grounding in mormon scripture that is made.
But the argument has been made, and has the right conclusion and so those who make it don't feel the need to address it any further.
unrelated fields of study that have reached the same conclusion indepently of one another, and that the liklihood of all of the various studies being likewise incorrect is so small as to be laughable
What is laughable is that there are no such studies as you vaguely refer to (I've come across plenty and they are all laughable in their integrity), but that in maintaining it's conclusion the DNA argument has to rule out many social, cultural, religious and archeological evidences linking south american cutlures to middle-eastern cultures and practices; and the DNA leaves the argument "if not by DNA and migration, then how?"
A superficial and brief understanding of DNA and mormon scripture may result in almost any opinion which has nothing whatsoever to do with the scientific evidence presented
nor should it. But it is based on my claim that neither your, nor I, nor those you cited properly understand the issues they argue over. You and they do not understand to what small degree the book of mormon can support the premise of their agument
If your science teaches you anything let it be that todays science facts will always be overturned tomorrows science; don't build of your science a religion as brittle and baseless as that you think you are attacking.
or possibly not, as google shows (start at the top and work down)
My experience shows people often study enough to justify their own notions and then therefore don't need to read any contrary views as they are so obviously wrong.
A superficial and brief understanding of DNA and mormon scripture may result in almost any opinion, but I'm certain of this, that most conclusions drawn by most humans are on the basis of faulty, insufficient and badly understood evidence; and this covers buying VCR's, taking out home loans, choosing schools and wallpaper as well as what to watch on TV, how best to re-install windows and what sort of God is most likely.
Top tip is not to let it get you down but concentrate on being the best sort of person you can be. Mormonism makes some people better. Perhaps not being mormon makes you better.
As a framework for life, I like it and it does me good, and I just had an uplifting weekend that you can share in english or dozens of languages (text and individual media items to appear soon). See if you can agree with any of it, see if any of it is designed to keep people in subjection, or see if it is designed to lift people up.
It's a good question, and I think the answer lies in how much of your life was tied up in the life of the other person.
For some insight into this you might want to read this extract of chapter 21 of "The Little Prince"
"What does that mean--tame?"
"It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. "It means to establish ties."
"To establish ties?"
"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world . ..".....
if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the color of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat . . . "
The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time. "Please--tame me!" he said.
Fat lot of good an open format is if users start embedding freaky OLE objects in, like "windows bitmap" as OLE instead of as bitmap, or windows metafile, or word art, or various other formats that only have windows servers for them.
Sam
wait too long, Re:Teletext
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It is also a source of grief to me that modern TV's don't cache the pages as they receive them so you always get the page you want instantly. Up to 799 pages (BCD with 3 bits for the top number) (yes 088 is the real page that is 888) at 1K each, thats less than 1MB uncompressed!
I also remember that BBC used to distribute software over teletext which yu could pick up with your BBC Micro teletext decoder.
1) what a judge says the law means 2) how the judge says this law applies to the... 3)... highly contrived construction that the prosecuter has put upon the facts 4)...after successfully having a lot of other facts "excluded" from the case
The only good defence is good publicity so that the scheming can be seen. A bit of daylight and a few watchers helps folk behave.
shsecret takes a file and splits it into N parts of equal size such that any M parts can be used to reconstruct the secret, but fewer than M will give absolutely no information about the secret. This program is written in strict ANSI C, so it should be completely portable. It is also hopefully simpler and more efficient than other implementations of the same algorithm.
If we try to keep up with North Korea and genetic engineering of the populace we'll all end up look like the grays wiht big heads, weak bodies and a flying boat like the Mekon but with domed lids on top (and possibly round).
We'll be frantically popping back in time trying to undo the harm by getting some decent DNA samples from poor unsuspecting country bumkins whose DNA is pure.
Oh wait, thats already happened. I mean already going to have has happened. Or something
the silver bullets we have are called "common sense" the ones we can hire-in are called "experts" the ones we are looking for are called "silver bullets"
Thats what you get when you treat collectives as individuals.
The "same" people? What do you mean by that? Linux fans? Yessirr! Two linux fans, one preaches quantity!=quality and one doesn't. Why do you think linux fans will agree about everything?
But even then you should see that although quality!=quantity its nice to see lots of people enjoying the quality at a fair price.
Those linux fans who gave for free hours of support to new linux users, and those who spenthours making software usable for OTHERS (yes, some do that, not the ones who whinge "it works for me" - at least not onthe same day) - THOSE linux fans, of course they arepleased with quality.
You don't want to live in a world where everyone uses Linux. Well, thats easy, just don't use linux. But it looks by that statement that you are again trying to constrain the "masses" into a nice well behaved singular that suites you.
Maybe I'm wrong, but thats how your irony looks to me.
If its for the readability of everyone else why not run it through a standard pretty-printer-reformatter thingy on cvs checking and run it through the users own favourite reformatting mode on cvs (or whatever) checkout?
The reason the regilious/anti-religious arguments are still going on is that neither side bothers to learn the other sides arguments, because - hey - they're wrong and its a waste of time.
Each side only learns enough of the other to see that the other side must be wrong.
So now the subject cropped up, lets take a look:
1) Just to cover the 6,000 year lark from the bible; its supposed to be 6,000 years since Adam and Eve left the harden of Eden after eating the fruit. No-one knows how long they were in there before they ate it, or what was outside the garden keeping the eco-system going.
2) And if good old Noah's flood did happen it might have screwed up the climate something rotton so there goes the basis for carbon dating (carbon ratios in the atmopshere).
Thats what you get when your theory damages someone elses premise.
So lets not fight about it; most people don't bother to learn "their sides doctrine" well enough to make a case anyway, or even enough to know if they actually believe it, so for both sides its not even a matter of belief but ignorant and partisan faith.
There's a difference between wanting truth and wanting to be right.
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I also want to keep read-news in sync (gmane, etc)
Also read-mail in sync. Thunderbird does IMAP badly, Outlook Express did a better job, and emails marked as read on one machine are then marked as read on another machine even if the messages have already been downloaded on the other computer. I use thunderbird exclusively now.
Sam
(1)You are engaging in numerous logical fallacies that make your argument completely irrelevant to this, the real world.
or, possibly not. By "your science" I didn't mean the link you referred to but what you pesonally might term "your science" (whatever that might be.) Further most of your statements "you imply" are falatious.
(2)You imply science teaches something it does not: that "today's facts will always be overturned
I do not imply this and your emphasis was wrong. The whole debate is of what constitutes a "fact"? Being able to tell later that something wasn't a fact becuase it has been overturned is small comfort, science or no. Relativity has overturned the facts of newtonian motion. We now know newtonian motion was not as factual as it was /often/ taught. Plainly we see that the indiscernable "facts" of science as we receive them are as much a matter of faith as stock market investment or religion. There is no shame in this.
The implication is that all scientific theories are discarded.
(2,3) No, the implication is that you aren't able to tell which scientific theories will be discarded, and so until that point much of science is a matter of faith, and then subseqent certainty (nor is it certain?) of having been wrong all along is of no consolation. The rest of your paragraph does not follow. I don't know if you are staw-man-ing me on purpose or out of habit, of if it's just co-incidence. There is no truly emperical data, either, or if there is, its hard to agree on what it is. It would be nice if it were otheriwse but it isn't.
(4)I don't imply this but the counter-arguments available from google indicate that the premise "if the book of mormon is true AND various un-claimed suppositions on the book of mormon colonisers AND other unknown inhabitants of america are true THEN it contradicts some interpretations of DNA expectations." The cited counter-arguments make this case better than I do, but the summary is mine, that:
1)the opinion you cited based on DNA "evidence" and "theory" are based on what is now out-dated DNA theory, including the mixing and mutation rates, and the case that the very DNA evidence to support the book of mormon may have been rejected from the studies because it was too similar to european DNA, and that studies fail to take into account the large-scale deaths of many native americans such that those left are likely to have some DNA advantage that preserves them from european disease
2)As far as we know only ONE book of mormon ancestor can be said to be Jewish in anyway; I'd saying that the DNA expectations put forward as a straw man have do not have the grounding in mormon scripture that is made.
But the argument has been made, and has the right conclusion and so those who make it don't feel the need to address it any further.
unrelated fields of study that have reached the same conclusion indepently of one another, and that the liklihood of all of the various studies being likewise incorrect is so small as to be laughable
What is laughable is that there are no such studies as you vaguely refer to (I've come across plenty and they are all laughable in their integrity), but that in maintaining it's conclusion the DNA argument has to rule out many social, cultural, religious and archeological evidences linking south american cutlures to middle-eastern cultures and practices; and the DNA leaves the argument "if not by DNA and migration, then how?"
A superficial and brief understanding of DNA and mormon scripture may result in almost any opinion
which has nothing whatsoever to do with the scientific evidence presented
nor should it. But it is based on my claim that neither your, nor I, nor those you cited properly understand the issues they argue over. You and they do not understand to what small degree the book of mormon can support the premise of their agument
If your science teaches you anything let it be that todays science facts will always be overturned tomorrows science; don't build of your science a religion as brittle and baseless as that you think you are attacking.
"particularly now that genetic science has disproven the fundamental premis of the Book of Mormon" http://www.godandscience.org/cults/dna.html
or possibly not, as google shows (start at the top and work down)
My experience shows people often study enough to justify their own notions and then therefore don't need to read any contrary views as they are so obviously wrong.
A superficial and brief understanding of DNA and mormon scripture may result in almost any opinion, but I'm certain of this, that most conclusions drawn by most humans are on the basis of faulty, insufficient and badly understood evidence; and this covers buying VCR's, taking out home loans, choosing schools and wallpaper as well as what to watch on TV, how best to re-install windows and what sort of God is most likely.
Top tip is not to let it get you down but concentrate on being the best sort of person you can be. Mormonism makes some people better. Perhaps not being mormon makes you better.
As a framework for life, I like it and it does me good, and I just had an uplifting weekend that you can share in english or dozens of languages (text and individual media items to appear soon). See if you can agree with any of it, see if any of it is designed to keep people in subjection, or see if it is designed to lift people up.
Sam
MS already do $30K licensing for sharepoint for all your non-employee customers.
Sam
It's a good question, and I think the answer lies in how much of your life was tied up in the life of the other person.
." .....
For some insight into this you might want to read this extract of chapter 21 of "The Little Prince"
"What does that mean--tame?"
"It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. "It means to establish ties."
"To establish ties?"
"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world . .
if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the color of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat . . . "
The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time. "Please--tame me!" he said.
You can read more at http://students.washington.edu/yana/LP.htm or various other locations shown by google
Top one! Well done.
And thank goodness for wayback.
Sam
Because MS lawyers are much better than you at making themselves seem right.
Sam
Alma.
w w.memoire.com/guillaume-desnoix/alma/+&hl=en
It can read several high level languages and build an internal representation and the convert that to other high level languages.
It is a great tool to help port this software to C for example.
Unfortunately the site seems to have gone, although I have used this software in the past.
See the google cache though: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:Dbw7OX6Tco4J:w
This point can't be under-emphasised.
Fat lot of good an open format is if users start embedding freaky OLE objects in, like "windows bitmap" as OLE instead of as bitmap, or windows metafile, or word art, or various other formats that only have windows servers for them.
Sam
It is also a source of grief to me that modern TV's don't cache the pages as they receive them so you always get the page you want instantly.
Up to 799 pages (BCD with 3 bits for the top number) (yes 088 is the real page that is 888) at 1K each, thats less than 1MB uncompressed!
I also remember that BBC used to distribute software over teletext which yu could pick up with your BBC Micro teletext decoder.
Sam
I read that in "Surely you're joking Mr Feynman"
"You think you're clever don't you? It's tortoises all the way down"
Sam
What really matters is
... highly contrived construction that the prosecuter has put upon the facts ...after successfully having a lot of other
1) what a judge says the law means
2) how the judge says this law applies to the...
3)
4)
facts "excluded" from the case
The only good defence is good publicity so that the scheming can be seen. A bit of daylight and a few watchers helps folk behave.
Sam
also at
http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_719.html
and downloadable from
http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/vmslt00a/net/shsecre
shsecret takes a file and splits it into N parts of equal size such that any M parts can be used to reconstruct the secret, but fewer than M will give absolutely no information about the secret. This program is written in strict ANSI C, so it should be completely portable. It is also hopefully simpler and more efficient than other implementations of the same algorithm.
Sam
If we try to keep up with North Korea and genetic engineering of the populace we'll all end up look like the grays wiht big heads, weak bodies and a flying boat like the Mekon but with domed lids on top (and possibly round).
We'll be frantically popping back in time trying to undo the harm by getting some decent DNA samples from poor unsuspecting country bumkins whose DNA is pure.
Oh wait, thats already happened. I mean already going to have has happened. Or something
Sam
"there are very few "silver bullets" in life"
the silver bullets we have are called "common sense"
the ones we can hire-in are called "experts"
the ones we are looking for are called "silver bullets"
Work that out if you can
Thats what you get when you treat collectives as individuals.
The "same" people? What do you mean by that?
Linux fans? Yessirr! Two linux fans, one preaches quantity!=quality and one doesn't. Why do you think linux fans will agree about everything?
But even then you should see that although quality!=quantity its nice to see lots of people enjoying the quality at a fair price.
Those linux fans who gave for free hours of support to new linux users, and those who spenthours making software usable for OTHERS (yes, some do that, not the ones who whinge "it works for me" - at least not onthe same day) - THOSE linux fans, of course they arepleased with quality.
You don't want to live in a world where everyone uses Linux. Well, thats easy, just don't use linux. But it looks by that statement that you are again trying to constrain the "masses" into a nice well behaved singular that suites you.
Maybe I'm wrong, but thats how your irony looks to me.
Sam
First I've heard that re-formatting code can produce a different binary!
Have you file a bug report against the compiler?
Because the same formatting rules are always used when checking IN to source control
Jim writes:
foo ()
{
some
really
long
line
}
which gets checked in as:
foo () {
some really long line
}
which Jo checks out as:
foo() {
some really
long line
}
modifies to
foo() {
some really
long line
that works
}
but gets checked in as
foo() {
some really long line that works
}
Any part of the source control tools that pull code from the repository needs to apply the current users rules, this implies the diff tools as well.
Sam
If its for the readability of everyone else why not run it through a standard pretty-printer-reformatter thingy on cvs checking and run it through the users own favourite reformatting mode on cvs (or whatever) checkout?
Sam
I can never figure people who go round thinking they need to enforce Gods punishments.
Sam
I used to say it as a student, then as married.
then when I started working independantly and still hadn't starved I thought I'd better put my money where my mouth was.
I joined EFF and GNU and I donate to beg-ware software, as they are generous, I be generous back.
Sam
[Off topic, but the grandparent started it]
The reason the regilious/anti-religious arguments are still going on is that neither side bothers to learn the other sides arguments, because - hey - they're wrong and its a waste of time.
Each side only learns enough of the other to see that the other side must be wrong.
So now the subject cropped up, lets take a look:
1) Just to cover the 6,000 year lark from the bible; its supposed to be 6,000 years since Adam and Eve left the harden of Eden after eating the fruit. No-one knows how long they were in there before they ate it, or what was outside the garden keeping the eco-system going.
2) And if good old Noah's flood did happen it might have screwed up the climate something rotton so there goes the basis for carbon dating (carbon ratios in the atmopshere).
Thats what you get when your theory damages someone elses premise.
So lets not fight about it; most people don't bother to learn "their sides doctrine" well enough to make a case anyway, or even enough to know if they actually believe it, so for both sides its not even a matter of belief but ignorant and partisan faith.
There's a difference between wanting truth and wanting to be right.
Sam
Yep.
wxWidgets is the bees knees and the only widget set library worth playing with IMHO.
Sam
I stand corrected, yes, your analysis is correct in regard to the abandonment of SMTP recommendation.
Sam
SPF is flawed, and won't become a popular standard for reasons like this.
I don't want to debate about it, but the few people who behave against the SPF rules in the various different ways add up to a lot of people.
If folk don't want to hear from me because of SPF, then I don't want to talk to them.
Sam