The only people who will be affected are 1) those who use the ISP-supplied modem AND 2) don't ask to have that feature disabled because they are running mailing lists
Most users with trojan'd machines are not running a mailing list, are using the ISP supplied modem and will not be asking to have this feature disabled.
You are correct when you say it requires co-operation from many people at once, but each ISP that uses it gives their customers an advantage as spamming moves to other networks and their customers avoid being black-holed.
Most cable ISPs have remotely updatable firmware so it is technioally managable - I think this covers any valid parts of your "lack of centrality" objection, and the fact that the end user is not required to install any patches.
It doesn't always help to enclose variable names in quotes although you are right to make it a habbit; so many shell scripts lose the quoting in the internal logic. SH makes it hard to write safe scripts like this.
As an aside do you know the difference between: $* "$*" $@ "$@"
Tip 2: when writing shell script wrappers; make sure to exec the final program or your wrapper eats the return value as well as wasting a process table slot.
As an ex-debian-rant-meister I am pleased with having switched to Debian after the RH9 closure.
Getting used to the differences took a couple of working days but it was well worth it.
Networking setup is very simple with debian, they haven;t managed to scatter it over so many conflicting config files as redhat.
Debian also really care about free software.
The only annoying thing with debian is the large (lots of files) debian-specific directory required for each package compared with redhats single.spec file which project maintainers are generally happy to look after themselves.
But thats a small gripe. The other gripe is that it is too hard to donate to debian. I have given up twice unable unsure of who I'm eventually paying money to and for what.
They'll be bio-hackers trying to crack the genetic drm; or taking illegal cuttings to try and increase the power they get without paying more money to the patent licensee.
Or maybe high-level UV will mutate the plant to become profific and it will spread like triffids and overpower the grid.
I really want to be able to grow more power when I need it, and if I have too much I can eat some, for kicks.
This scheme has only 1/4 as many computers to: * maintain * upgrade * de-worm * fail in the first place
If you dish out a computer each (4x), then you quadruple the chance of independant hardware failure anway; but the number of linked failures: * worms/ viruses * lightening strikes * surges will just mean 4 times as many computers to fix.
the only benefit to 4 computers for general used is with independant hardware failure where the computers are underutilised so somebody can just use one of the other computers IF they didn't need that particular computer.
But I guess this is offset when multiple failures do occur and staff aren't available to work on all 4 computers at the same time.
Watch TCO tumble with this setup; lets see if the MSFT consultants can quickly churn out a new TCO report to cover this.
When someone does gnome libs that miss out the CORBA stuff, so that it flies without taking 128MB to do nothing at all, evolution might be runnable.
Many business that would switch to avoid hefty MS licensing fee's are the sort of businesses that don't blindly update PC's. 300MHz Pentium with 128MB is typical in such institutions.
Gnome bloat that also breaks X11 wire-protocol benefits. (Have you tried having 2 X consoles logged in as the same user, maybe one by VNC - notice that all gnome programs start on the original desktop, not the one that launched them - totally ignores $DISPLAY - how daft is that!)
Grrr. I hate gnome, the way its done is, I think, a waste of most of the time spent on it by all those skilled developers. Somebody had the paradigm hat stuck too far on their head when they designed it.
I'm not yet tired of saying this because my disgust is still not exhausted.
I have thought for years that Ziff-Davis were Microsoft Shills. [I don't mean all MS software is bad, I just mean Ziff-Davis seemed impervious to facts in their reviews]
If ZDNet is saying to stop using IE things must be bad.
I have tried to depart from IE 2 or 3 times but failed. As soon as I type this message I make the move for good. Hello Mozilla.
VLC (VideoLAN Client) is a multimedia player for Unix, Windows, MacOS X, BeOS, and QNX. It can play most audio and video formats (MPEG 1/2/4, DivX, WMV, DV, Ogg/Vorbis, AAC, etc.), has support for VCD and DVD (with menus), and can read streams from a network source (HTTP, UDP, DVB, etc.). It can also act as a server and send streams through the network, with optional support for transcoding.
One of the last things I want in relation to this is a load of bacteria eating the copper tracks off my motherboard, and speads down the LAN wiring to other PC's.
Gosh, just imagine if a power station gets infected.
For the past 5 years and more Gregory Aronian has been campaigning to allow the patent office to KEEP all the fees it collects instead of paying ost of them to the government.
The point is: port 5 blocking will not be adopted if it involves making legitimate users lives so difficult.
Yes the user could use ftp, yes they could use irc, but no-one has made a legitimate case for port 25 blocking yet, other than "It sucks for you but it would really help me."
This is the kind of thing that happens when much of your customers are also your engineers (or interchangable with them.)
Its what happens when your service-providing hardware becomes commodity.
Have we ever been able to benefit from such a super-scaled economy before? I don't think so; it will take some getting used to.
Welcome the new generation, no longer hostage to high setup costs; We can do it ourselves.
- OK, admittedly because the hi-tec industry keeps churning out the pieces; this is the bottom of the technology/market food chain, but its never looked so good before.
Everything is marginal and there are enough people to eat the margin.
I have a static IP from Demon intenet who have always permitted folk to run their own mail servers, which I do; and I have the same problem for some mail recipients.
Business-class-service NOTHING!; its morons who use dont understand the stupid filtering they use and then can't get emails. So I don't buy ebay from them next time.
I'm thinking of poor road runner users here who only have once choice of ISP; shame they are half cut off from the internet by their cheap-skate ISP.
Demon internet give me a full blown internet service via ADSL. I get what I pay for and I went to Demon internet because of it.
No stupid rules on running servers at my end, no stupid rules about not VPN-ing to work, and a nice static IP address that reverse resolves to ME!
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Your eager analysis is flawed.
The only people who will be affected are
1) those who use the ISP-supplied modem
AND
2) don't ask to have that feature disabled because they are running mailing lists
Most users with trojan'd machines are not running a mailing list, are using the ISP supplied modem and will not be asking to have this feature disabled.
You are correct when you say it requires co-operation from many people at once, but each ISP that uses it gives their customers an advantage as spamming moves to other networks and their customers avoid being black-holed.
Most cable ISPs have remotely updatable firmware so it is technioally managable - I think this covers any valid parts of your "lack of centrality" objection, and the fact that the end user is not required to install any patches.
Sam
More poking around finds:
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/cbanddataproducts.ht ml
ftp://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/
from
snck snck
Now to see what it really is....
Sam
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/dataprod.htm
But no UK under Europe/Middle-east unless you count the south-coast that appears under France.
Hmmm
I've been looking for over a year for UK map data. I may find it yet.
Sam
The only one that is inconsistent with normal variable handling is "$@", but you're right that this is something to be careful with.
/bin/original "$@"
True; but "$@" is generally the only safe one to use in simple wrappers for passing through the args untouched.
In my sample I forgot to do:
exec
Sam
It doesn't always help to enclose variable names in quotes although you are right to make it a habbit; so many shell scripts lose the quoting in the internal logic. SH makes it hard to write safe scripts like this.
/bin/sh
/bin/originalprogram
As an aside do you know the difference between:
$*
"$*"
$@
"$@"
Tip 2:
when writing shell script wrappers; make sure to exec the final program or your wrapper eats the return value as well as wasting a process table slot.
e.g.
#!
#setup
#noww run
exec
Sam
As an ex-debian-rant-meister I am pleased with having switched to Debian after the RH9 closure.
.spec file which project maintainers are generally happy to look after themselves.
Getting used to the differences took a couple of working days but it was well worth it.
Networking setup is very simple with debian, they haven;t managed to scatter it over so many conflicting config files as redhat.
Debian also really care about free software.
The only annoying thing with debian is the large (lots of files) debian-specific directory required for each package compared with redhats single
But thats a small gripe. The other gripe is that it is too hard to donate to debian. I have given up twice unable unsure of who I'm eventually paying money to and for what.
Sam
mmm.. I guess you are right on that one.
Sam
Well.... spinach, eh?
They'll be bio-hackers trying to crack the genetic drm; or taking illegal cuttings to try and increase the power they get without paying more money to the patent licensee.
Or maybe high-level UV will mutate the plant to become profific and it will spread like triffids and overpower the grid.
I really want to be able to grow more power when I need it, and if I have too much I can eat some, for kicks.
Sam
I take your point, but think the price points are different.
I can get 17" monitors at less than 100 quid; but moreso I think they can.
The marginal cost for adding an extra head to the system seems to be worthwhile for them.
Sam
Good grief; its more scalable than dedicated X terminals which can only serve ONE display. ONE. (1).
"you could run a whole classroom off 1 reasonably specified Linux server"
not forgetting; of course, the classroom full of dedicated X terminals?
To prove my point, you could use this 4 head setup as a 4-head "dedicated" X-terminal; now tell me which is more "scalable"?
Sam
This scheme has only 1/4 as many computers to:
* maintain
* upgrade
* de-worm
* fail in the first place
If you dish out a computer each (4x), then you quadruple the chance of independant hardware failure anway; but the number of linked failures:
* worms/ viruses
* lightening strikes
* surges
will just mean 4 times as many computers to fix.
the only benefit to 4 computers for general used is with independant hardware failure where the computers are underutilised so somebody can just use one of the other computers IF they didn't need that particular computer.
But I guess this is offset when multiple failures do occur and staff aren't available to work on all 4 computers at the same time.
Watch TCO tumble with this setup; lets see if the MSFT consultants can quickly churn out a new TCO report to cover this.
Sam
Is this because by default windows doesn't have a loopback interface s internal services listen on a public interface?
Sam
Ho ho!
And of course you wont be cleaning much spyware off their PC if they don't use IE either!
Sam
FLAME WARNING
When someone does gnome libs that miss out the CORBA stuff, so that it flies without taking 128MB to do nothing at all, evolution might be runnable.
Many business that would switch to avoid hefty MS licensing fee's are the sort of businesses that don't blindly update PC's. 300MHz Pentium with 128MB is typical in such institutions.
Gnome bloat that also breaks X11 wire-protocol benefits.
(Have you tried having 2 X consoles logged in as the same user, maybe one by VNC - notice that all gnome programs start on the original desktop, not the one that launched them - totally ignores $DISPLAY - how daft is that!)
Grrr. I hate gnome, the way its done is, I think, a waste of most of the time spent on it by all those skilled developers. Somebody had the paradigm hat stuck too far on their head when they designed it.
I'm not yet tired of saying this because my disgust is still not exhausted.
Sam
I have thought for years that Ziff-Davis were Microsoft Shills. [I don't mean all MS software is bad, I just mean Ziff-Davis seemed impervious to facts in their reviews]
If ZDNet is saying to stop using IE things must be bad.
I have tried to depart from IE 2 or 3 times but failed. As soon as I type this message I make the move for good. Hello Mozilla.
Sam
Freshmeat.net is your friend.
VideoLan
VLC (VideoLAN Client) is a multimedia player for Unix, Windows, MacOS X, BeOS, and QNX. It can play most audio and video formats (MPEG 1/2/4, DivX, WMV, DV, Ogg/Vorbis, AAC, etc.), has support for VCD and DVD (with menus), and can read streams from a network source (HTTP, UDP, DVB, etc.). It can also act as a server and send streams through the network, with optional support for transcoding.
One of the last things I want in relation to this is a load of bacteria eating the copper tracks off my motherboard, and speads down the LAN wiring to other PC's.
Gosh, just imagine if a power station gets infected.
Sam
Use twin - its like screen but can back-connect to an X-server!
I modified the new sarge root disks so I could do remote installations without being at the console.
Sam
If the user has access for a custom procmailrc that can count as shell access but few people realise this.
Sam
For the past 5 years and more Gregory Aronian has been campaigning to allow the patent office to KEEP all the fees it collects instead of paying ost of them to the government.
The point is: port 5 blocking will not be adopted if it involves making legitimate users lives so difficult.
Yes the user could use ftp, yes they could use irc, but no-one has made a legitimate case for port 25 blocking yet, other than "It sucks for you but it would really help me."
Sam
The genre has not died out; its just not very commercial these days.
Plenty of fan-games of all kinds including remakes.
AGS (Adventure Game Studio) as used be these folks seems to be used to generate the best of the genre these days.
Sam
This is the kind of thing that happens when much of your customers are also your engineers (or interchangable with them.)
Its what happens when your service-providing hardware becomes commodity.
Have we ever been able to benefit from such a super-scaled economy before? I don't think so; it will take some getting used to.
Welcome the new generation, no longer hostage to high setup costs; We can do it ourselves.
- OK, admittedly because the hi-tec industry keeps churning out the pieces; this is the bottom of the technology/market food chain, but its never looked so good before.
Everything is marginal and there are enough people to eat the margin.
Sam
I have a static IP from Demon intenet who have always permitted folk to run their own mail servers, which I do; and I have the same problem for some mail recipients.
Business-class-service NOTHING!; its morons who use dont understand the stupid filtering they use and then can't get emails. So I don't buy ebay from them next time.
I'm thinking of poor road runner users here who only have once choice of ISP; shame they are half cut off from the internet by their cheap-skate ISP.
Demon internet give me a full blown internet service via ADSL. I get what I pay for and I went to Demon internet because of it.
No stupid rules on running servers at my end, no stupid rules about not VPN-ing to work, and a nice static IP address that reverse resolves to ME!
Only 25.00 or so per month.
Sam
May work!!
/etc/nsswitch.conf
Its read-only, command-line access!
You type commands like this:
extdump \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1 -o 68b3cb000
If you want to read a file.
Sam