such as making the plants purposefully infertile so you have to keep buying monsanto seeds
Good news! Those didn't sell well, so they aren't being sold.
Also, lots of crops require buying the seeds every year. For example, if you use last year's crop to plant this year's sweet corn, you're going to have a problem. You need two specific alleles in your corn, and basic Mendelian genetics controls if you get them in the next generation, resulting in about 25-37% of the crop having the right combination of genes naturally.
the part where you get sued if a monsanto crop accidentally grows on your terrain
Good news! At the trials, it was revealed that these two farmers had partial sacks of Monsanto seed in their barns. So the crops weren't "accidentally" grown.
There is a danger of cross-pollination, but the highly publicized cases weren't it.
the ol and good monopoly by infinite patenting everything
Patents only get you 20 years. Patents on several "Round-Up Ready" seeds have expired, resulting in competitors releasing seeds. Though this still serves Bayer's monopoly on "Round Up", so there's still plenty of evil.
But if the seed spreads to farmers who don't want it, they just throw their hands up and say, "Not our problem! The courts say you have to pay to clean it up yourself."
It should be noted that in the cases that actually went to court over this, the farmer's claims were proven false. For example, they found sacks of Monsanto seed in the farmer's barn. Demonstrating that the Monsanto crops he was growing was not from cross-pollination.
Forcing farmers to buy new seeds each year was precisely the goal.
Btw, farmers already buy new seeds each year for many crops.
For example, the only way you know you are growing the right sweet corn is to buy new seeds every year. If you plant from last year's crop, 25% to 50% of the crop won't have the right alleles.
There was a program called Wide Receiver under the W Bush administration, which attempted to sell disabled guns with embedded tracking devices to suspected criminals, who were then followed by US law enforcement and Mexican law enforcement.
Both Fast and Furious and Wide Receiver were part of Project Gunrunner. The new name for Fast and Furious was because there were new targets that were different than Wide Receiver. It was the same program with a new target.
As for disabled guns, tracking devices and Mexican cooperation, remember the bit about the DEA agent not following the rules? You just described what he did. And why he suddenly became a whistle-blower after he massively fucked up.
But imagine the shitshow if Holder had prosecuted him. So Holder, stupidly, let him go.
I think the Bushes are despicable, but "Operation Fast and Furious" was not a Bush admin activity.
Fast and Furious was one of the operations under Project Gunrunner. Fast and Furious was another "gunwalking" operation under that program. The first one was Operation Wide Receiver, which was in 2006.
While Fast and Furious started in 2009, it was a continuation of an existing program. The new name was applied because of the new targets.
bringing up an earlier Bush admin program (called "Operation Wide Reciever") that was NEARLY as stupid but not as illegal and deadly.
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
Under the Bush program, the guns were tagged and tracked and the Mexican government was "in the loop" rather than being victimized by it.
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
Under the Obama program, the guns were not tagged and not tracked and the Mexican government was not aware of the program
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
(a criminal offense normally leading to jail time, but Holder was not about to prosecute himself of course so he got away with the crime)
Contempt of Congress can be prosecuted by Congress. Golly, wonder why they didn't if it was actually as clear as you describe......
Incidentally, this is where Trump got the idea that his Attorney general should be his "wingman".
I think you spent way too long attempting to come up with a retort.
The fundamental point of Sinclair's statement is when someone has a large incentive to not accept the truth, they will refuse to do so. That incentive does not literally have to be a salary. There are plenty of other incentives.
Such as this one, where accepting the truth would require re-examining your worldview. People have a large incentive to not do that, in that admitting they were wrong about a lot of things is painful.
So you declare them a troll, and move on without having to understand it.
but when are they going to arrest any Democrat for blatantly lying before Congress about running arms to al-Qaeda and Mexican drug lords
When they actually do that. Turns out Inforwars isn't the best source of reality.
(Fast and Furious, btw, was a program started under W's administration. It had strict rules about the guns and following them....until one DEA agent broke all the rules about distributing guns, got caught, and started screaming to certain media outlets to cover his own ass. Difficult to indict a "whistle-blower" and Holder didn't want to try.)
giving $billions to Iran
That would be the Reagan administration.
having the GCHQ spy on the opposing party's candidates
[Citation Required]. No need have GCHQ do it when there's already a FISA warrant.
or any of a half dozen other scandals that would have gotten anyone other than America's First Black President impeached
Yeah, like Pizzagate, right? How'd you guys figure out to cover over the fact that the building doesn't have a basement?
It turns out, you don't have to actually tell the truth to put a story into the media. Lots of people will believe you are telling the truth when you're lying about, say, birth certificates. And many of a certain set of people will gladly eat up the tabloid reporting, so the tabloids keep doing it.
Not correct about what? You keep dodging the question
No, I keep pointing you to the paper.
Alzheimer's is most definitely also referred to as diabetes 3
This was proposed....and then debunked when the link between metabolic disorder and Alzheimer was disproven. Like in the paper I keep pointing you to.
and the link between sugar and plaque has been well established for over a hundred years
Are you seriously unable to understand the difference between plaque on teeth and plaques in the brain? 'Cause those are two wildly-different things, made up of wildly-different substances at wildly-different locations, with wildly-different causes.
A plaque is just the name for a build-up of material. Any material. Just because it's called "plaque" does not make it the same thing, nor does it have the same cause. Just like "sign" can refer to a street sign, a part of sign language, the act of applying your signature to a document, or a supernatural signal. Same name, wildly different stuff.
And the paper you linked does not even mention plaque
Oh, you are confusing plaque on teeth with plaques in the brain....../facepalm
And I've been hired several times to replace all the young contractors who couldn't deliver anything that was in their contract. Turns out some people are just bad, whether or not they're a contractor or in a union.
It's going to be amusing watching you slowly develop a clue about what's actually going on. And then understanding it. And then watch you react to a younger developer say exactly the same things to you.
But I do twice the work of the old fart over there making 155k.
Sure you do. Because you have any idea how much work he actually does, and what value that work has for the company.
"But looking at hours spent physically located in the office at one's desk is a good measure of value to the company!!" You have a career ahead of you being a terrible manager.
The energy input is the creation of metallic Na, which from my understanding is usually done by electrolysis of NaCl.
So if one was going to use this as part of a carbon sequestration scheme, you'd want to use excess electricity from non-CO2 producing sources to electrolyze NaCl, transport the battery somewhere useful, then have it capture CO2 while it's being a battery.
Depending on how much energy you had to use to refine some sodium compound to create the elemental Na needed for this reaction, it could be a net energy loss.
The laws of thermodynamics demand a net energy loss.
From what I understand, the typical way to make metallic sodium at the moment is electrolysis of NaCl, which would consume more electricity than this produces.
However, nothing says that electricity has to come from a CO2-producing source. So this could be valuable as a carbon sequestration technique, which happens to also include a battery.
The problem with your examples are things that can (and in some cases actually ARE taken care of via private contractor).
Guess what happens when the program isn't funded? The contractors can't do it either because they can't get paid for it.
The contractors also will not get back pay.
As for the 800,000 people? What promise was broken? Did the government suddenly pass a law stating that these people had universal and irrevocable employment until the end of time?
We, through our elected representatives, promised we'd pay them for their work. We aren't paying them for their work. Hell, we are requiring that many of them work for free.
But as I said, you Randians are really not all that big on keeping your promises.
Are these people going to be paid for time they didn't work ANYHOW when the shutdown is over?
Again, that has to be explicitly appropriated. There's no guarantee it will be. Also, those contractors you are so fond of will not be getting paid and never got paid during any previous shutdown.
Still not appropriated. It's not actually guaranteed until it is. This bill is as binding as legislation declaring National Taco Day.
But, you think calling and dealing with your creditors, as opposed to just ignoring it and hoping it'll end five minutes ago, might give them some breathing room?
You've never had to deal with unhappy creditors in your life, have you?
Also, which creditor do they call when they have that pesky desire to eat?
Not an emergency? Hundreds of thousands of people illegally crossing the border every year is a-ok hunky dory normal?
Illegal immigration is down. By a very large amount. It can't be an emergency when it's already dropping.
Also, that hundreds of thousands number requires counting people seeking amnesty as illegally entering the country. US law and treaty obligations make it legal to enter the US to seek amnesty. We are required by law and treaty to let them live into the US while we investigate their claim. And, FYI, the vast majority of asylum seekers 1) report to ICE as required during the investigation (96%) and 2) have their asylum claims approved.
It turns out people don't abandon everything and walk 2000 miles on a whim.
Since you are the one to mention numbers, exactly what number of uneducated useless third worlders from socialist shit holes invading our country would be an emergency for you?
Well, the number would have to be going up instead of dropping substantially. It's also currently 1/3rd the rate in the 80s and 90s, when it wasn't an emergency that required bypassing the Constitution.
And exactly why is it ok if even a single person illegally crosses the border?
Ask the people who employ them. That's the only reason the actual "illegal immigrants" are coming here. No jobs, no immigrants.
I've yet to see anyone on your side propose cracking down on the people who hire undocumented workers. Almost like our agricultural industries have used cheap undocumented labor for more than a century....Oh wait, they have!!
Stupid children in your college echo chambers. Once you start paying taxes you will understand.
As a 40-something who's been paid very well for a very long time, I'm reasonably sure I've paid more in taxes than you have. I also didn't have to resort to strawmen and caricatures to talk about this.
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such as making the plants purposefully infertile so you have to keep buying monsanto seeds
Good news! Those didn't sell well, so they aren't being sold.
Also, lots of crops require buying the seeds every year. For example, if you use last year's crop to plant this year's sweet corn, you're going to have a problem. You need two specific alleles in your corn, and basic Mendelian genetics controls if you get them in the next generation, resulting in about 25-37% of the crop having the right combination of genes naturally.
the part where you get sued if a monsanto crop accidentally grows on your terrain
Good news! At the trials, it was revealed that these two farmers had partial sacks of Monsanto seed in their barns. So the crops weren't "accidentally" grown.
There is a danger of cross-pollination, but the highly publicized cases weren't it.
the ol and good monopoly by infinite patenting everything
Patents only get you 20 years. Patents on several "Round-Up Ready" seeds have expired, resulting in competitors releasing seeds. Though this still serves Bayer's monopoly on "Round Up", so there's still plenty of evil.
Thank you for being a poster child for the people described in the article.
But if the seed spreads to farmers who don't want it, they just throw their hands up and say, "Not our problem! The courts say you have to pay to clean it up yourself."
It should be noted that in the cases that actually went to court over this, the farmer's claims were proven false. For example, they found sacks of Monsanto seed in the farmer's barn. Demonstrating that the Monsanto crops he was growing was not from cross-pollination.
Forcing farmers to buy new seeds each year was precisely the goal.
Btw, farmers already buy new seeds each year for many crops.
For example, the only way you know you are growing the right sweet corn is to buy new seeds every year. If you plant from last year's crop, 25% to 50% of the crop won't have the right alleles.
There was a program called Wide Receiver under the W Bush administration, which attempted to sell disabled guns with embedded tracking devices to suspected criminals, who were then followed by US law enforcement and Mexican law enforcement.
Both Fast and Furious and Wide Receiver were part of Project Gunrunner. The new name for Fast and Furious was because there were new targets that were different than Wide Receiver. It was the same program with a new target.
As for disabled guns, tracking devices and Mexican cooperation, remember the bit about the DEA agent not following the rules? You just described what he did. And why he suddenly became a whistle-blower after he massively fucked up.
But imagine the shitshow if Holder had prosecuted him. So Holder, stupidly, let him go.
I think the Bushes are despicable, but "Operation Fast and Furious" was not a Bush admin activity.
Fast and Furious was one of the operations under Project Gunrunner. Fast and Furious was another "gunwalking" operation under that program. The first one was Operation Wide Receiver, which was in 2006.
While Fast and Furious started in 2009, it was a continuation of an existing program. The new name was applied because of the new targets.
bringing up an earlier Bush admin program (called "Operation Wide Reciever") that was NEARLY as stupid but not as illegal and deadly.
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
Under the Bush program, the guns were tagged and tracked and the Mexican government was "in the loop" rather than being victimized by it.
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
Under the Obama program, the guns were not tagged and not tracked and the Mexican government was not aware of the program
Remember the bit I said about the DEA agent who broke the rules of the program? That is what you are describing here.
(a criminal offense normally leading to jail time, but Holder was not about to prosecute himself of course so he got away with the crime)
Contempt of Congress can be prosecuted by Congress. Golly, wonder why they didn't if it was actually as clear as you describe......
Incidentally, this is where Trump got the idea that his Attorney general should be his "wingman".
So there was this President named Kennedy.......
I think you spent way too long attempting to come up with a retort.
The fundamental point of Sinclair's statement is when someone has a large incentive to not accept the truth, they will refuse to do so. That incentive does not literally have to be a salary. There are plenty of other incentives.
Such as this one, where accepting the truth would require re-examining your worldview. People have a large incentive to not do that, in that admitting they were wrong about a lot of things is painful.
So you declare them a troll, and move on without having to understand it.
but when are they going to arrest any Democrat for blatantly lying before Congress about running arms to al-Qaeda and Mexican drug lords
When they actually do that. Turns out Inforwars isn't the best source of reality.
(Fast and Furious, btw, was a program started under W's administration. It had strict rules about the guns and following them....until one DEA agent broke all the rules about distributing guns, got caught, and started screaming to certain media outlets to cover his own ass. Difficult to indict a "whistle-blower" and Holder didn't want to try.)
giving $billions to Iran
That would be the Reagan administration.
having the GCHQ spy on the opposing party's candidates
[Citation Required]. No need have GCHQ do it when there's already a FISA warrant.
or any of a half dozen other scandals that would have gotten anyone other than America's First Black President impeached
Yeah, like Pizzagate, right? How'd you guys figure out to cover over the fact that the building doesn't have a basement?
It turns out, you don't have to actually tell the truth to put a story into the media. Lots of people will believe you are telling the truth when you're lying about, say, birth certificates. And many of a certain set of people will gladly eat up the tabloid reporting, so the tabloids keep doing it.
Can't understand how your [amicusNYCL's] long argument with such an obvious troll earned an insightful mod.
I think we'll turn this over to an expert:
t is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it
Not correct about what? You keep dodging the question
No, I keep pointing you to the paper.
Alzheimer's is most definitely also referred to as diabetes 3
This was proposed....and then debunked when the link between metabolic disorder and Alzheimer was disproven. Like in the paper I keep pointing you to.
and the link between sugar and plaque has been well established for over a hundred years
Are you seriously unable to understand the difference between plaque on teeth and plaques in the brain? 'Cause those are two wildly-different things, made up of wildly-different substances at wildly-different locations, with wildly-different causes.
A plaque is just the name for a build-up of material. Any material. Just because it's called "plaque" does not make it the same thing, nor does it have the same cause. Just like "sign" can refer to a street sign, a part of sign language, the act of applying your signature to a document, or a supernatural signal. Same name, wildly different stuff.
And the paper you linked does not even mention plaque
Oh, you are confusing plaque on teeth with plaques in the brain....../facepalm
And I've been hired several times to replace all the young contractors who couldn't deliver anything that was in their contract. Turns out some people are just bad, whether or not they're a contractor or in a union.
You really think getting rid of crunch time would solve that?
Yes. The error rate of a programmer goes up after 30 hours/week. It skyrockets after 60 hours/week.
Crunch time means getting 20 hours/week of work done while being at the office 80 hours/week......if you give a damn about bugs.
It's going to be amusing watching you slowly develop a clue about what's actually going on. And then understanding it. And then watch you react to a younger developer say exactly the same things to you.
Real developers are proud to work crunch time to get a game out on time. They know it makes for a better product.
Given the enormous numbers of bugs that are shipped in virtually every title these days, I'm gonna put a [Citation Required] on this one.
They put out 3/4ths done crap, and hope they can patch it fast enough to quell the uproar.
But I do twice the work of the old fart over there making 155k.
Sure you do. Because you have any idea how much work he actually does, and what value that work has for the company.
"But looking at hours spent physically located in the office at one's desk is a good measure of value to the company!!"
You have a career ahead of you being a terrible manager.
I can assure you both statements are correct.
I can assure you the paper I linked says you are not correct.
It was an interesting lead in 2008, which is why they did the study that culminated in the 2009 paper I linked.
No, they don't invest because they don't have to invest. They are protected by a natural monopoly, so they don't have to invest.
Nope. Vascular dementia is different from Alzheimers.
The energy input is the creation of metallic Na, which from my understanding is usually done by electrolysis of NaCl.
So if one was going to use this as part of a carbon sequestration scheme, you'd want to use excess electricity from non-CO2 producing sources to electrolyze NaCl, transport the battery somewhere useful, then have it capture CO2 while it's being a battery.
The O comes from the water in one of the electrolytes. That's why this releases hydrogen.
The thing you'd have to add to this system is the Na. Which is not that hard to produce.
Keep in mind the most efficient CO2 scrubber consumes an H2O per CO2 molecule (photosynthesis).
This isn't really a CO2 capture system because it does nothing to actually capture CO2
Uh....it converts atmospheric CO2 into sodium bicarbonate (aka baking soda). That makes it a capture system.
But why not use something efficient instead, so you don't waste most of the energy?
Because this includes CO2 sequestration (assuming you get your Na from something like electrolysis of NaCl).
This is a carbon sequestration scheme that happens to include a battery. Not a fantastic new battery.
Depending on how much energy you had to use to refine some sodium compound to create the elemental Na needed for this reaction, it could be a net energy loss.
The laws of thermodynamics demand a net energy loss.
From what I understand, the typical way to make metallic sodium at the moment is electrolysis of NaCl, which would consume more electricity than this produces.
However, nothing says that electricity has to come from a CO2-producing source. So this could be valuable as a carbon sequestration technique, which happens to also include a battery.
The problem with your examples are things that can (and in some cases actually ARE taken care of via private contractor).
Guess what happens when the program isn't funded? The contractors can't do it either because they can't get paid for it.
The contractors also will not get back pay.
As for the 800,000 people? What promise was broken? Did the government suddenly pass a law stating that these people had universal and irrevocable employment until the end of time?
We, through our elected representatives, promised we'd pay them for their work. We aren't paying them for their work. Hell, we are requiring that many of them work for free.
But as I said, you Randians are really not all that big on keeping your promises.
Are these people going to be paid for time they didn't work ANYHOW when the shutdown is over?
Again, that has to be explicitly appropriated. There's no guarantee it will be. Also, those contractors you are so fond of will not be getting paid and never got paid during any previous shutdown.
"Not guaranteed"
https://www.foxnews.com/politi... [foxnews.com]
You were saying?
Still not appropriated. It's not actually guaranteed until it is. This bill is as binding as legislation declaring National Taco Day.
But, you think calling and dealing with your creditors, as opposed to just ignoring it and hoping it'll end five minutes ago, might give them some breathing room?
You've never had to deal with unhappy creditors in your life, have you?
Also, which creditor do they call when they have that pesky desire to eat?
Not an emergency? Hundreds of thousands of people illegally crossing the border every year is a-ok hunky dory normal?
Illegal immigration is down. By a very large amount. It can't be an emergency when it's already dropping.
Also, that hundreds of thousands number requires counting people seeking amnesty as illegally entering the country. US law and treaty obligations make it legal to enter the US to seek amnesty. We are required by law and treaty to let them live into the US while we investigate their claim. And, FYI, the vast majority of asylum seekers 1) report to ICE as required during the investigation (96%) and 2) have their asylum claims approved.
It turns out people don't abandon everything and walk 2000 miles on a whim.
Since you are the one to mention numbers, exactly what number of uneducated useless third worlders from socialist shit holes invading our country would be an emergency for you?
Well, the number would have to be going up instead of dropping substantially. It's also currently 1/3rd the rate in the 80s and 90s, when it wasn't an emergency that required bypassing the Constitution.
And exactly why is it ok if even a single person illegally crosses the border?
Ask the people who employ them. That's the only reason the actual "illegal immigrants" are coming here. No jobs, no immigrants.
I've yet to see anyone on your side propose cracking down on the people who hire undocumented workers. Almost like our agricultural industries have used cheap undocumented labor for more than a century....Oh wait, they have!!
Stupid children in your college echo chambers. Once you start paying taxes you will understand.
As a 40-something who's been paid very well for a very long time, I'm reasonably sure I've paid more in taxes than you have. I also didn't have to resort to strawmen and caricatures to talk about this.