FYI, those drivers always give me slightly higher frame rates on my Gentoo 1.2 (2.4.19r7) than in WinXP Pro (same machine, same games - QIII, UT, same driver version). Where are you getting the 95-99% figure?
I bought the game because I believed that the Linux client was on the CD (that was a day or two after it was released). Hadn't returned it (I should have!) believing there'll be a Linux client soon (fall). I still haven't played the damn game! I know at least a dozen people who are in the same boat as me. They got a lot free marketing and some sales from the Linux propaganda for sure.
I am really disappointed at Bioware. Carmack/Epic own them. Epic never really promised a Linux client for UT2K3 and boom, it was there on the CD on the day it shipped. That's the way to do it.
I should mention I'm not an American so this may be a bit out of line but I still have to say it. You people put too much trust into FCC and your government. Didn't FCC just allow baby Bells and cable comanies monopolies on their networks? OK, cable companes built cable networks so that may be OK but phone lines were built by public money I assume. And you still expect them do something about all this *AA / Disney BS. It looks to me they are all in bed together. I think they'll shove the Broadcast flag / Palladium / (whatever you want to call it) down your throats whether you want it or not.
but I find the idea of buying overpriced hardware ridiculous
I just bought a PowerBook from Apple. The same thing (feature-wise) from Dell (DVD burner, Radeon 9000, 15.2'' screen...) would have cost me about the same (yeah, and it wouldn't be 5 lb, 1'' thick...). True, some of the stuff is way overpriced (high end PowerMacs come to mind) but some things just aren't (laptops I think). On the flip side Macs last longer and sell for a lot more money after a few years than any PC (check Ebay).
Am I the only one who thinks that MSDN is worst piece (heap?) of documentation ever created. I have no problems reading gcc, make, cups, bind documentation (just stuff I recently touched on). I have a *hard* time finding anything useful in that huge pile of crap called MSDN. And it's commercial.
I know what you mean. Apple is a lot more open now then some years ago and the OS isn't a peice of crap (typing that on a new PB). I hope they keep it up...
Linux isn't even remotely in the running for the game market yet
Hm, I keep that PC around only for gaming and I do it in Linux only. I know it isn't a gaming platform yet but it's getting there (on desktop too):/
No UNIX environment that I know of (definitely no lightweight one) has real, Win2k-level alpha-blending support.
Errr, how about OS X? That's a UNIX OS. You get all the alpha blending goodness and then some (yes, to get to be snappy you need a $50 GeForce2 MX video card). Looks 10 times better than and Windows I've seen. I agree X is a bit slower but on newer hardware (mine is a dual PIII 1Ghz, GeForce4 Ti - Nvidia drivers) you'd have to look *really* closely to tell any difference (UT & QIII are slightly faster than on XP though). You don't have to run Gnome/KDE as you have noticed. Also try applying the low latency patches - that helps X a lot (as will the 2.6 kernel once it's released).
He can make sure that the content is protected easily enough. He can release it in a locked down format/media that only *AA approved players can play (read: no PC/Macs). But who would want it? Everything is fine for us as it is. Instead he's gonna get *us* to willingly (or by the force of law) pay for DRM in out PCs/other gadgets to protect his contect (and generally restrict otherwise prefectly versative and capable machinery). No free lunch? BS! Georgie, you me to pay for your nect one.
And since when do you need tones of money to produce good art. Best stuff was produced for miniscule amounts comapred to latest Hollywood stuff.
No doubt they can port it to Mac OS. But Apple hasn't promised them Screw-The-Dumb-Customers Palladium (not wanting to step all over their customers' rights) so they won't do it. You aren't missing out anything though - the stuff they serve is expensive and low quality:)
Ah? I bought the educational WordPerfect circa 1994 and it cost me about $40 US. MS VC++ (4.2) with NT 4.0 cost me about $70 US around the same time. Just doesn't sound like educational pricing. Where are you getting those figures?
1) The server applications are also strongly in black.
I wounder how well would they fare without the monopoly on the desktop. My guess is they wouldn't even be on the chart (think Code Red & friends). On top of that thier monopoly on the desktop gives them the power to overcharge customers, squash competitiors, and finance forays into other areas...
2) These numbers do not reflect the cost of MS Research. MSR is costing Microsoft a hefty sum every year, and they actually do provide many interesting things, especially for Windows internals.
I know there will be about 10000 people here saying Fujitsu sucks but I have to say that my experience has been different. I have a bunch of ATA Fujitsus (MPDxxxx & MPExxxx). They have been all on 24/7, some for four years straight. Excellent drives, running very cool, unlike the stupid IBM's 34 & 75 GXP series.
Did you actually bother to read the article you linked to? They improved sales in cheap servers not Itanium. Quote:
While acknowledging improvement in Intel server sales, IDC isn't ready to declare a bull market yet. Much of the growth was driven by inexpensive models, purchased in small numbers by companies in the United States or the Asia-Pacific region that were looking to shore up their current computing capacity, IDC said.
Itanium sold only 1135 servers total! That is a *big* flop in my vocabulary considering that it cost so many billions & years to develop.
Like the other guys says: some moderators are high/drunk/dumb. When I see something like that I correct if I have moderator points and if no I try catch it on meta moderation...
You make some valid points (fix the freaking clipboard in X pls). But I have had no problems opening any Excel or Word documents in OpenOffice 1.0.1 so far. Oh and Quake III (and UT2k3) is faster under Linux a tee-wee bit (I benchmarked it, NVidia GF4Ti, NVidia 30.31 driver).
I am not an audio buff so I'm not going to dispute your claims. What I will note is that you missed a huge point. Vorbis if *free*, no licensing fees ever, no DRM. That is a huge thing. It is made for me & you and not for a fat ass music company. That's what makes it very special. Oh and BTW is sounds just fine to me...
They aren't. But Palladium will enhance any DRM greatly by enforcing it on the hardware level (much harder to circumvent). I will speculate that is the biggest reason for Palladium.
You don't want rights management? Fine. You can't use this service. Fine! But I don't want to be mandated what I must run on my computer (think TCPBA or whatever that Fritz bill called now). I don't have a problem with xAA/Microsoft/Intel creating their own DRM platorms. I *do* have a problem when someone pushes it down my throat via a piece legislation. The potential for abuse is just to great and the benefits are few. I don't have a problem with the security right now. My machines are quite secure thank you.
I don't think you'll find much comfort in AMD. They are in that DRM working group with MS & Intel. They are also much more eagar to suck up to MS. Their ex-CEO Jerry Whatever said something like: "Wake up, MS has won. I ain't supporting Linux.." in that interview a couple of months ago (it was posted here). I think more appropriate response is: VIA/Apple here I come!
If that indeed is Apple's attitude they will stay exactly where they are now - a 5% niche. I mean my friend built a mean dual Athlon for less money than a low end iMac. You wanna see Photoshop running on that? There are a lot of people interested in buying just the Apple's OS (whatever it costs) but not their ridiculous hardware - me being one of those. Now label me a flamebait all you want but I think Apple were greedy and stupid ten years ago (or just not wanting to conquer the PC market at all) and they still haven't learned anything.
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FYI, those drivers always give me slightly higher frame rates on my Gentoo 1.2 (2.4.19r7) than in WinXP Pro (same machine, same games - QIII, UT, same driver version). Where are you getting the 95-99% figure?
I bought the game because I believed that the Linux client was on the CD (that was a day or two after it was released). Hadn't returned it (I should have!) believing there'll be a Linux client soon (fall). I still haven't played the damn game! I know at least a dozen people who are in the same boat as me. They got a lot free marketing and some sales from the Linux propaganda for sure.
I am really disappointed at Bioware. Carmack/Epic own them. Epic never really promised a Linux client for UT2K3 and boom, it was there on the CD on the day it shipped. That's the way to do it.
I should mention I'm not an American so this may be a bit out of line but I still have to say it. You people put too much trust into FCC and your government. Didn't FCC just allow baby Bells and cable comanies monopolies on their networks? OK, cable companes built cable networks so that may be OK but phone lines were built by public money I assume. And you still expect them do something about all this *AA / Disney BS. It looks to me they are all in bed together. I think they'll shove the Broadcast flag / Palladium / (whatever you want to call it) down your throats whether you want it or not.
You are a disgrace to all geeks on this planet. Put a link in!
but I find the idea of buying overpriced hardware ridiculous
...). True, some of the stuff is way overpriced (high end PowerMacs come to mind) but some things just aren't (laptops I think). On the flip side Macs last longer and sell for a lot more money after a few years than any PC (check Ebay).
I just bought a PowerBook from Apple. The same thing (feature-wise) from Dell (DVD burner, Radeon 9000, 15.2'' screen...) would have cost me about the same (yeah, and it wouldn't be 5 lb, 1'' thick
Netcraft says MA Attorney General's web site is IIS on W2K. DOH!
Am I the only one who thinks that MSDN is worst piece (heap?) of documentation ever created. I have no problems reading gcc, make, cups, bind documentation (just stuff I recently touched on). I have a *hard* time finding anything useful in that huge pile of crap called MSDN. And it's commercial.
Would it be fair to say that the bridge collapsed because a 300 lb man was on it?
CowboyNeal struck again... Of course it's his fault, he does it just for fun, the sadistic bastard.
I know what you mean. Apple is a lot more open now then some years ago and the OS isn't a peice of crap (typing that on a new PB). I hope they keep it up...
Linux isn't even remotely in the running for the game market yet
Hm, I keep that PC around only for gaming and I do it in Linux only. I know it isn't a gaming platform yet but it's getting there (on desktop too):/
No UNIX environment that I know of (definitely no lightweight one) has real, Win2k-level alpha-blending support.
Errr, how about OS X? That's a UNIX OS. You get all the alpha blending goodness and then some (yes, to get to be snappy you need a $50 GeForce2 MX video card). Looks 10 times better than and Windows I've seen. I agree X is a bit slower but on newer hardware (mine is a dual PIII 1Ghz, GeForce4 Ti - Nvidia drivers) you'd have to look *really* closely to tell any difference (UT & QIII are slightly faster than on XP though). You don't have to run Gnome/KDE as you have noticed. Also try applying the low latency patches - that helps X a lot (as will the 2.6 kernel once it's released).
He can make sure that the content is protected easily enough. He can release it in a locked down format/media that only *AA approved players can play (read: no PC/Macs). But who would want it? Everything is fine for us as it is. Instead he's gonna get *us* to willingly (or by the force of law) pay for DRM in out PCs/other gadgets to protect his contect (and generally restrict otherwise prefectly versative and capable machinery). No free lunch? BS! Georgie, you me to pay for your nect one.
And since when do you need tones of money to produce good art. Best stuff was produced for miniscule amounts comapred to latest Hollywood stuff.
No doubt they can port it to Mac OS. But Apple hasn't promised them Screw-The-Dumb-Customers Palladium (not wanting to step all over their customers' rights) so they won't do it. You aren't missing out anything though - the stuff they serve is expensive and low quality :)
My 2 cents...
Ah? I bought the educational WordPerfect circa 1994 and it cost me about $40 US. MS VC++ (4.2) with NT 4.0 cost me about $70 US around the same time. Just doesn't sound like educational pricing. Where are you getting those figures?
1) The server applications are also strongly in black.
I wounder how well would they fare without the monopoly on the desktop. My guess is they wouldn't even be on the chart (think Code Red & friends). On top of that thier monopoly on the desktop gives them the power to overcharge customers, squash competitiors, and finance forays into other areas...
2) These numbers do not reflect the cost of MS Research. MSR is costing Microsoft a hefty sum every year, and they actually do provide many interesting things, especially for Windows internals.
Ah? Can you come up with an example please?
I know there will be about 10000 people here saying Fujitsu sucks but I have to say that my experience has been different. I have a bunch of ATA Fujitsus (MPDxxxx & MPExxxx). They have been all on 24/7, some for four years straight. Excellent drives, running very cool, unlike the stupid IBM's 34 & 75 GXP series.
My two cents...
Philip's SFFO 3cm 4Gig Optical Discs
That Philip is a mighty smart guy. I wish I could make optical discs.
Did you actually bother to read the article you linked to? They improved sales in cheap servers not Itanium. Quote:
While acknowledging improvement in Intel server sales, IDC isn't ready to declare a bull market yet. Much of the growth was driven by inexpensive models, purchased in small numbers by companies in the United States or the Asia-Pacific region that were looking to shore up their current computing capacity, IDC said.
Itanium sold only 1135 servers total! That is a *big* flop in my vocabulary considering that it cost so many billions & years to develop.
Same here. I'm typing on it right now. He probably mixed it up with XFS as the other guy suggested. Too bad XFS doesn't work yet...
I'd say that Intel will have to pay, because if Intergraph stops the Itanium series of processors, it will mean an even bigger loss of money
If anything it'll probably *save* them money. Itanic has been a huge flop so far.
Like the other guys says: some moderators are high/drunk/dumb. When I see something like that I correct if I have moderator points and if no I try catch it on meta moderation...
You make some valid points (fix the freaking clipboard in X pls). But I have had no problems opening any Excel or Word documents in OpenOffice 1.0.1 so far. Oh and Quake III (and UT2k3) is faster under Linux a tee-wee bit (I benchmarked it, NVidia GF4Ti, NVidia 30.31 driver).
I am not an audio buff so I'm not going to dispute your claims. What I will note is that you missed a huge point. Vorbis if *free*, no licensing fees ever, no DRM. That is a huge thing. It is made for me & you and not for a fat ass music company. That's what makes it very special. Oh and BTW is sounds just fine to me...
D.
DRM exists.
Palladium doesn't exist.
So tell me how they're the same thing?
They aren't. But Palladium will enhance any DRM greatly by enforcing it on the hardware level (much harder to circumvent). I will speculate that is the biggest reason for Palladium.
You don't want rights management? Fine. You can't use this service.
Fine! But I don't want to be mandated what I must run on my computer (think TCPBA or whatever that Fritz bill called now). I don't have a problem with xAA/Microsoft/Intel creating their own DRM platorms. I *do* have a problem when someone pushes it down my throat via a piece legislation. The potential for abuse is just to great and the benefits are few. I don't have a problem with the security right now. My machines are quite secure thank you.
AMD, here I come
I don't think you'll find much comfort in AMD. They are in that DRM working group with MS & Intel. They are also much more eagar to suck up to MS. Their ex-CEO Jerry Whatever said something like: "Wake up, MS has won. I ain't supporting Linux.." in that interview a couple of months ago (it was posted here). I think more appropriate response is: VIA/Apple here I come!
If that indeed is Apple's attitude they will stay exactly where they are now - a 5% niche. I mean my friend built a mean dual Athlon for less money than a low end iMac. You wanna see Photoshop running on that? There are a lot of people interested in buying just the Apple's OS (whatever it costs) but not their ridiculous hardware - me being one of those. Now label me a flamebait all you want but I think Apple were greedy and stupid ten years ago (or just not wanting to conquer the PC market at all) and they still haven't learned anything.