Hypocrisy (n) 1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
Hypocrisy is only that when you are currently acting in opposition to your beliefs. If your beliefs change, one would expect your actions to do so as well.
If I were currently downloading pirated games and ripping others for doing so, then yes, I would be a hypocrite.
Here's an analogy for you: Say that for years I am a hard core practicing Catholic. After a while, I decide that the whole thing is whooey and I become an atheist. Does that mean I am a hypocrite for all those years of confessions and communions? Of course not.
As for the "Mr. High & Mighty"... it's hard NOT to look like such when opposed by pea-brained knuckle draggers.
Yet another error on your part: I didn't write the original mistaken post, nor the first rebuttal to your idiocy. Nice try though, game over, you lose. Woof woof, go back to not thinking, it's easier for you that way.
You're right, as far as that goes. But what if I'm not all that familiar with Gentoo. How do I know to look in "app-portage", and how do I even know to look at "porthole"?
Have you look at/usr/portage lately? There's thousands in there! Are simple, "uneducated" users supposed to click thru all of them? or nano them all?
Exactly which character in LOTR is one character from "Azghoul"? Nazgul? Not quite one letter, is it?
I'll answer exactly one question in your rambling nonsense: I'm arguing here, for two reasons. 1, it's fun to watch you get increasingly upset about it. I'm having a grand time poking holes in your attempted arguments, demonstrating various non sequiturs and other fallacies in your rantings. 2, I'm hoping that by getting a verbal spanking, you'll think twice about spouting off with your immature nonsense next time, though I expect I've failed in that regard.
I have to admit, though, you did have a great line in here. It was uproarious reading that I'm arguing against the dictionary, coming from someone with limited spelling, grammatical, and critical thinking skills.
However, the enjoyment is starting to wane. This really is like pushing around a toddler. Fun to watch him fall over, but after a while, you move on. So, unless you really enjoy this kind of nonsensical ranting, next time you read that someone doesn't know something you do, respond with a little civility, rather than your particularly childish and embarrassing "hey dumbass, you can too play it online...get a cluestick please". Asshole.
See, the trouble is not looking thru the list of what's in/usr/portage. Even a trained monkey can do that.:) The trouble is, there's no indication of what's actually/worth/ installing.
The GUI I mentioned, for instance. Where did you find out about Kpackage, guitoo or porthole (none of which I'd ever heard of)? Searching the Gentoo forums, I suppose, but assume I couldn't figure out the right keywords to search for.
I'm saying, the list of what's there and what's actually valuable is incomplete, and not particularly n00b (or simply Gentoo-n00b, which was my position a couple months ago) friendly.
Ah, back for more I see. It's interesting, watching the dregs that come out of the American educational system these years.
Your lack of reading comprehension speaks volumes about the intellect (or lack thereof, in this case) behind the keyboard. I'd try to explain further but you're already so confused that it wouldn't help anything. However, since I'm really enjoying this, I'll point out more silliness in your post.
1. "basically after a LOTR character". Funny, but not close. 2. First declarative sentence means absolutely nothing. Total confusion. 3. I never claimed to be correct, only to suspect certain truths. Given your increasingly hostile, incomprehensible replies, I suspect I am closer to the truth than you care to admit. 4. "another" is quite different from "the other", which is what you said originally. "the other" is generally assumed to be Kerry, which you obviously thought. 5. "Obtuse ass". What does the angle of my ass have to do with anything? 6. Pretty fucking funny that your cut/pasted definition of "other" is exactly what I was goofing on you about. Reading comprehension is apparently not your strong suit. 7. "a duh you fucktard". More etymological brilliance. An instant classic. Well done.
Keep it coming though. I'm hoping once you reach 20 or so you'll look back on this discussion and realize your shrill, nonsensical replies for the immature blathering that they are.
One bit of advice though, as you reach your adult years. Communication is one of the most important skills an adult possesses. The ability to convey one's thoughts in a precise, well-formed manner will open many doors. Effective communication makes communication with you worthwhile. Trying to shout someone down with disconnected thoughts, fallacious arguments and sheer white noise will earn you no friends in the long run.
And finally, on the ever-so-slight chance that you are telling the truth, and you are, say, 28ish, then I have simply two words for you: grow up.
packages.gentoo.org is nice, but it's not marked obviously enough on the site. "online package database" mixed in with the rest of the links on the front page isn't really user-friendly.
What would be nicer would be: "Looking for packages?" in large, friendly letters...:)
packages itself is okay for what it does... but it's no more than "emerge -s" really. What's needed is a friendly site something on the order of Tucows that can say, "Here's some good stuff". As it is now, packages is no better (nor worse) than Freshmeat.
New users need guidance. If I can't do X, what's the consensus recommendation of the Gentoo community? Now that would be useful.
"stereotypical bullshit" is pretty funny. I'm certainly able to comprehend the options - It's when a 1337 d00d like you talks about running a crack for a game (read your original post, smart guy, you never said "I bought this game and then I cracked it because..."), there's usually one reason: you borrowed it from a buddy and want to play it w/o paying.
You're also a hypocrite: You claim that you, the mature teenager that you are, can "comprehend all the different options", while later in the same, run-on paragraph, you claim that I'll be voting for the "other guy".
Where's your "all options" comprehension here, genius? Do you even realize that there are more than 2 people running for President this year? Good job jumping to that conclusion. I guess when one can't vote, one doesn't bother to pay much attention. Go back to playing your cracked games, you nitwit.
Okay, I'm not your usual Gentoo zealot, but I have converted my home and work machines to it.
I'm also not a linux n00b... but really, installing something by running "emerge something" is not that tough, is it?
Maybe someone needs to make a nice clicky version of that.:-P One thing I think is missing is a nice searchable GUI interface for the portage stuff... There probably even IS one, but who the heck knows where to look?:)
Wow, more evidence. How many years before you're even allowed to vote, young man?
You'll be crying in your beer when he wins.
I'm curious why you'd think someone who pays for their software or uses Free software would be a Bush voter? I didn't vote for him then and I won't again this time, but that doesn't matter in your simple, childish world-view, does it?
It hurts to be dressed down by someone, doesn't it?
Oh it can, huh? Like with Mozilla pop-up and image blockers? Flash plugins that allow click-to-run? Click-thru that nets nearly 0?
Yeah, online advertizing is going great alright.
The day they find a way to force online advertizing is the day people like you will start bitching loud and clear about it: "How dare they force us to sit thru their stupid commercialization!? If they can't make money, their business model is bad!!"
I'm not sure if you aren't actually reading what I'm writing, or if you're just not understanding it. Let me try again.
1. The US gov't is based on some pretty nice principles. The fact that even with the limited powers granted, humans have continually made a mess of things. You seem to be considering the current state of affairs with the way the nation was put together 200 years ago. Quite different, obviously.
I have NO EARTHLY IDEA what you're talking about with your "believing the US government even cares about you" line. Isn't it obvious by my arguments that YOU are the one who believes gov't is good? I am the one here who believes that gov't, given the tools, will screw the populace, every time. It's human nature.
2. You didn't read what I wrote. How, exactly, will your wonderful black box prevent someone from getting away with a hit and run? And if it's not constantly monitoring you as a driver, why is it there?
3. Not sure what your argument has to do with the price of tea in China. "When you have an accident, you've broken the law. It's that simple." What?? That's demonstrably false.
4. You are missing the reason behind my point. If I have done nothing wrong, what business is it of the government how I am driving? Following your logic to a similar conclusion, I assume you believe we should all submit to drug testing every day, just in case we took a hit off a bong last night. Our hard drives should be scanned constantly to make sure we have no kiddie porn. We should all be monitored when we enter and leave stores to make sure we haven't stolen anything. Where does it end, in your "socially being responsible" world?
Your silly mailman comment has no bearing on this: I can choose to receive all my mail at a post office box. Or not to receive mail at all. There is no law that says I MUST receive mail at my home. Besides, there are laws against anyone messing with my mail. What laws will there be to prevent mis-use of black box data? Any?
5. Gee, is that what insurance is for? Thanks for clearing that up. But again, of what business is it of the government's, that isn't already handled by police and accident investigators? Please explain to me why, in the case of an every-day fender-bender, why the government should be involved at all?
6. I don't care that any technology can work flawlessly or not. People obviously cannot. If you really did study your history you would know that. Please provide to me one example of a benevolent government that has shown no corruption in the history of mankind. In the meantime, the less power we the people give to any government the better: Avoid the whole issue of corruptive uses of the data by NOT GIVING GOV'T the data in the first place!
Please, if we're going to continue this conversation, bone up on your critical thinking skills, or at least make sure you take the time to read my post completely. You're missing any number of my points, ignoring others, and generally not progressing from point A to point B very well.
You weren't talking about "legit and totally legal reasons for cracking a game" in your original post. You were talking about getting the game and running it on a private server with some other crack so you didn't need the CD key.
Hmm, I wonder what your "legit reason" would be for not requiring a CD key?
Yes, I do equate growing up with not cracking games just to be able to play online without paying for it. Sorry, you'll understand someday when you grow up.
Your answer to #1 makes it incredibly hard to believe that you've studied anything more than cursory history. To suggest that the revolutionary brothers who built this country screwed it up is a wonderful example of ignorance.
"religious nutjobs" and "smoked too much reefer" displays more than you know about your lack of education on the subject.
It has nothing to do with brainwashing, in my case: it's a simple reflection on the vast history of different governments, what's worked, and what's happened time and time again: whenever the opportunity presents itself, government takes more control from its people. It's as close to a "natural law" as you can get.
As for #2, if I'm driving in a reckless manner (pathetic swipe at SUVs aside) and I am caught, I will be ticketed right now. I don't need a black box for that. If I am NOT, the government has no right to monitor or record what I'm doing.
For #3... but in #2 you said I should have my "details sent out to every cop in the area." Seems like they're watching over me, to me! Your "government is good" bias shows through here: I ask simply: If it truly was an accident, of what business is it of the government at all? In my mind, it's between the driver, anyone else affected, and insurance companies.
#4. Total non-sequitur, but thanks. If the cops stop me after I've run someone over, what does a black box have to do with it? You and your benevolent government are going to put a box in my car/just in case/ I might do something wrong. In other words, I'm guilty before committing the crime. That's sheer folly.
#5. You didn't respond to my concession of insurance - car owner contracts, but that's okay. If I crash and drive off, how exactly does the black box solve that, without monitoring my every move at other times?
As for #6, another complete non-sequitur. It doesn't matter what wonderful utopian ideals you see: Human nature and the nature of bureaucracy demonstrates time and time again that such information will never be used in an objective manner: You get politics involved (which happens because, hey, it's public sector!), you will have a mess on your hands in the long term.
Let me state it for you very simply: The wonderful, nice, "government would never do anything bad with this data" mindset is incredibly naive. Perhaps a black box would help determine the cause of certain accidents, perhaps not. But in the long run, the power given to government with such a system is virtually guaranteed to come back and bite us in the ass.
I also might point out the difference in our mod scores, but I'm sure you wouldn't care.:)
1. Please study history. It's not the people in power, it's the nature of power itself. Throughout history the same things happen. The USA was designed to be different, but only if the populace remains vigilant (and of course, we're not any longer).
2. Do you seriously believe that once the black boxes are in cars, and once the populace is used to the idea, that government WON'T expand on its use? 30 minutes? Why not 90 minutes in case the car's involved in a hit-and-run? Who can argue against that? Why not RFID transmitters on your car too so when you speed past a checkpoint, they can ring you up for speeding? At that point, why not an RFID transmitter implanted in your arm so that the speed trap can detect exactly who was behind the wheel?
3. There is no reason for the government to be monitoring our activities. This should really be the first argument against this kind of nonsense. What I do in my car, even for 30 minutes at a time, is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS. The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution denies the government the ability to watch over us without probable cause. Are you seriously suggesting that all drivers will probably do something illegal with their cars?
4. I believe privacy concerns would be assuaged somewhat if you limited such "black boxes" to only those who've been convicted of traffic crimes more serious than a simple speeding ticket, and only for a limited time (a form of parole or probation).
5. If an insurance company wanted to give out a large discount for drivers who plant these devices in their cars, more power to them. I'm sure many consumers, who are not worried about privacy, would be more than happy to get a 40% discount on their insurance. The libertarian in me wants to say that's between the insurance company and the driver, but the problem is, our nannies, er, I mean, government, has decreed that all shall have insurance, and there's a slight bit of regulation on the whole industry, so that plan wouldn't work.
6. Please, please stop with the "benefit each and every person" platitudes. It only serves to mark you as naive.
Well, considering you missed the damn point as well, I might as well humor you with a direct reply.
Monica Lewinsky was an intern right? In your version of reality? Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but sexual relations (the legal def as intercourse or otherwise!) by a boss with an underling is essentially the essence of sexual harrassment right?
Face the fact: Clinton got away with murder (figuratively and, if you buy into the more paranoid fantasies, literally) because of expert lawyers and technicalities so many times it's ridiculous that "people like you continue to insinuate" that he's just a poor, trod-upon soul.
Bush has done some major things wrong, and a few bigger things wrong (Abu Ghraib alone should be enough to kick his ass out of office). I was in HS at the time, but I don't remember Bush Sr doing much of anything... Some might suggest that Clinton brought the hounds upon himself, no? But "people like you continue to insinuate" that poor ol' Clinton was just a victim of the vast, right-wing conspiracy I guess.
Clinton is the worst sort of politician. And before you think I'm just bashing him, Bush is at least as bad. Kerry is no better. The poll-driven mentality of these career blood-suckers is pathetic. Jefferson would cry. And then secede.
Fair enough. I never really cared about it and ran with the "common wisdom". Of course, it's not the point of my post (interesting that yours got the big mod bump, however).
Really, your point makes mine: Clinton, the slippery rogue that he is, essentially got away with all sorts of shenanigans, and people continue to give him a pass.
Fischer will never get that treatment because of the offensive things he's apparently said.
Since, for all eternity, the more popular you are, the less likely your ruling government can destroy you.
If this Fischer guy is a charismatic trickster type, people will love him, and shit that would stick to you and me will slide right off (modern day example: Bill Clinton. Lying under oath, no matter what it's about, is a crime).
If he's an asshole advocating more terrorism and wiping out the Jews, he's not going to get any sympathy from the vast majority of Americans.
Unfortunately for this nutjob, he's apparently the latter.
It's the "figuring out what you want to do" part that is the toughest.
So enlighten us, how did you "find yourself"? Just curious. Most of my loser friends claim their sitting around in a dead-end $10/hr job is because they don't know what to do with themselves, but I believe it's just sloth.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, that's SO MUCH BETTER!
Holy shit, 15% of my expensive fucking software is broken and needs to be replaced? Yikes!
Oh good, another nibble:
Hypocrisy (n)
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
Hypocrisy is only that when you are currently acting in opposition to your beliefs. If your beliefs change, one would expect your actions to do so as well.
If I were currently downloading pirated games and ripping others for doing so, then yes, I would be a hypocrite.
Here's an analogy for you: Say that for years I am a hard core practicing Catholic. After a while, I decide that the whole thing is whooey and I become an atheist. Does that mean I am a hypocrite for all those years of confessions and communions? Of course not.
As for the "Mr. High & Mighty"... it's hard NOT to look like such when opposed by pea-brained knuckle draggers.
Holy shit. Thanks man, I just spewed iced tea on my monitor.
Yet another error on your part: I didn't write the original mistaken post, nor the first rebuttal to your idiocy. Nice try though, game over, you lose.
Woof woof, go back to not thinking, it's easier for you that way.
You're right, as far as that goes. But what if I'm not all that familiar with Gentoo. How do I know to look in "app-portage", and how do I even know to look at "porthole"?
/usr/portage lately? There's thousands in there! Are simple, "uneducated" users supposed to click thru all of them? or nano them all?
Have you look at
My god, it's like arguing with a dog.
Exactly which character in LOTR is one character from "Azghoul"? Nazgul? Not quite one letter, is it?
I'll answer exactly one question in your rambling nonsense: I'm arguing here, for two reasons. 1, it's fun to watch you get increasingly upset about it. I'm having a grand time poking holes in your attempted arguments, demonstrating various non sequiturs and other fallacies in your rantings. 2, I'm hoping that by getting a verbal spanking, you'll think twice about spouting off with your immature nonsense next time, though I expect I've failed in that regard.
I have to admit, though, you did have a great line in here. It was uproarious reading that I'm arguing against the dictionary, coming from someone with limited spelling, grammatical, and critical thinking skills.
However, the enjoyment is starting to wane. This really is like pushing around a toddler. Fun to watch him fall over, but after a while, you move on. So, unless you really enjoy this kind of nonsensical ranting, next time you read that someone doesn't know something you do, respond with a little civility, rather than your particularly childish and embarrassing "hey dumbass, you can too play it online...get a cluestick please". Asshole.
See, the trouble is not looking thru the list of what's in /usr/portage. Even a trained monkey can do that. :) The trouble is, there's no indication of what's actually /worth/ installing.
:)
The GUI I mentioned, for instance. Where did you find out about Kpackage, guitoo or porthole (none of which I'd ever heard of)? Searching the Gentoo forums, I suppose, but assume I couldn't figure out the right keywords to search for.
I'm saying, the list of what's there and what's actually valuable is incomplete, and not particularly n00b (or simply Gentoo-n00b, which was my position a couple months ago) friendly.
Thanks for the info though!
Ah, back for more I see. It's interesting, watching the dregs that come out of the American educational system these years.
Your lack of reading comprehension speaks volumes about the intellect (or lack thereof, in this case) behind the keyboard. I'd try to explain further but you're already so confused that it wouldn't help anything. However, since I'm really enjoying this, I'll point out more silliness in your post.
1. "basically after a LOTR character". Funny, but not close.
2. First declarative sentence means absolutely nothing. Total confusion.
3. I never claimed to be correct, only to suspect certain truths. Given your increasingly hostile, incomprehensible replies, I suspect I am closer to the truth than you care to admit.
4. "another" is quite different from "the other", which is what you said originally. "the other" is generally assumed to be Kerry, which you obviously thought.
5. "Obtuse ass". What does the angle of my ass have to do with anything?
6. Pretty fucking funny that your cut/pasted definition of "other" is exactly what I was goofing on you about. Reading comprehension is apparently not your strong suit.
7. "a duh you fucktard". More etymological brilliance. An instant classic. Well done.
Keep it coming though. I'm hoping once you reach 20 or so you'll look back on this discussion and realize your shrill, nonsensical replies for the immature blathering that they are.
One bit of advice though, as you reach your adult years. Communication is one of the most important skills an adult possesses. The ability to convey one's thoughts in a precise, well-formed manner will open many doors. Effective communication makes communication with you worthwhile. Trying to shout someone down with disconnected thoughts, fallacious arguments and sheer white noise will earn you no friends in the long run.
And finally, on the ever-so-slight chance that you are telling the truth, and you are, say, 28ish, then I have simply two words for you: grow up.
packages.gentoo.org is nice, but it's not marked obviously enough on the site. "online package database" mixed in with the rest of the links on the front page isn't really user-friendly.
:)
What would be nicer would be: "Looking for packages?" in large, friendly letters...
packages itself is okay for what it does... but it's no more than "emerge -s" really. What's needed is a friendly site something on the order of Tucows that can say, "Here's some good stuff". As it is now, packages is no better (nor worse) than Freshmeat.
New users need guidance. If I can't do X, what's the consensus recommendation of the Gentoo community? Now that would be useful.
"stereotypical bullshit" is pretty funny. I'm certainly able to comprehend the options - It's when a 1337 d00d like you talks about running a crack for a game (read your original post, smart guy, you never said "I bought this game and then I cracked it because..."), there's usually one reason: you borrowed it from a buddy and want to play it w/o paying.
You're also a hypocrite: You claim that you, the mature teenager that you are, can "comprehend all the different options", while later in the same, run-on paragraph, you claim that I'll be voting for the "other guy".
Where's your "all options" comprehension here, genius? Do you even realize that there are more than 2 people running for President this year? Good job jumping to that conclusion. I guess when one can't vote, one doesn't bother to pay much attention. Go back to playing your cracked games, you nitwit.
Okay, I'm not your usual Gentoo zealot, but I have converted my home and work machines to it.
:-P One thing I think is missing is a nice searchable GUI interface for the portage stuff... There probably even IS one, but who the heck knows where to look? :)
I'm also not a linux n00b... but really, installing something by running "emerge something" is not that tough, is it?
Maybe someone needs to make a nice clicky version of that.
Wow, more evidence. How many years before you're even allowed to vote, young man?
You'll be crying in your beer when he wins.
I'm curious why you'd think someone who pays for their software or uses Free software would be a Bush voter? I didn't vote for him then and I won't again this time, but that doesn't matter in your simple, childish world-view, does it?
It hurts to be dressed down by someone, doesn't it?
Hey, whatever makes you feel good about downloading high priced games and not paying the authors.
Ah, what our high-priced educational system turns out these days...
Oh it can, huh? Like with Mozilla pop-up and image blockers? Flash plugins that allow click-to-run? Click-thru that nets nearly 0?
Yeah, online advertizing is going great alright.
The day they find a way to force online advertizing is the day people like you will start bitching loud and clear about it: "How dare they force us to sit thru their stupid commercialization!? If they can't make money, their business model is bad!!"
Yeah yeah yeah...
I'm not sure if you aren't actually reading what I'm writing, or if you're just not understanding it. Let me try again.
1. The US gov't is based on some pretty nice principles. The fact that even with the limited powers granted, humans have continually made a mess of things. You seem to be considering the current state of affairs with the way the nation was put together 200 years ago. Quite different, obviously.
I have NO EARTHLY IDEA what you're talking about with your "believing the US government even cares about you" line. Isn't it obvious by my arguments that YOU are the one who believes gov't is good? I am the one here who believes that gov't, given the tools, will screw the populace, every time. It's human nature.
2. You didn't read what I wrote. How, exactly, will your wonderful black box prevent someone from getting away with a hit and run? And if it's not constantly monitoring you as a driver, why is it there?
3. Not sure what your argument has to do with the price of tea in China. "When you have an accident, you've broken the law. It's that simple." What?? That's demonstrably false.
4. You are missing the reason behind my point. If I have done nothing wrong, what business is it of the government how I am driving? Following your logic to a similar conclusion, I assume you believe we should all submit to drug testing every day, just in case we took a hit off a bong last night. Our hard drives should be scanned constantly to make sure we have no kiddie porn. We should all be monitored when we enter and leave stores to make sure we haven't stolen anything. Where does it end, in your "socially being responsible" world?
Your silly mailman comment has no bearing on this: I can choose to receive all my mail at a post office box. Or not to receive mail at all. There is no law that says I MUST receive mail at my home. Besides, there are laws against anyone messing with my mail. What laws will there be to prevent mis-use of black box data? Any?
5. Gee, is that what insurance is for? Thanks for clearing that up. But again, of what business is it of the government's, that isn't already handled by police and accident investigators? Please explain to me why, in the case of an every-day fender-bender, why the government should be involved at all?
6. I don't care that any technology can work flawlessly or not. People obviously cannot. If you really did study your history you would know that. Please provide to me one example of a benevolent government that has shown no corruption in the history of mankind. In the meantime, the less power we the people give to any government the better: Avoid the whole issue of corruptive uses of the data by NOT GIVING GOV'T the data in the first place!
Please, if we're going to continue this conversation, bone up on your critical thinking skills, or at least make sure you take the time to read my post completely. You're missing any number of my points, ignoring others, and generally not progressing from point A to point B very well.
LOL, nice attempt, but failed miserably.
You weren't talking about "legit and totally legal reasons for cracking a game" in your original post. You were talking about getting the game and running it on a private server with some other crack so you didn't need the CD key.
Hmm, I wonder what your "legit reason" would be for not requiring a CD key?
Yes, I do equate growing up with not cracking games just to be able to play online without paying for it. Sorry, you'll understand someday when you grow up.
Your answer to #1 makes it incredibly hard to believe that you've studied anything more than cursory history. To suggest that the revolutionary brothers who built this country screwed it up is a wonderful example of ignorance.
/just in case/ I might do something wrong. In other words, I'm guilty before committing the crime. That's sheer folly.
:)
"religious nutjobs" and "smoked too much reefer" displays more than you know about your lack of education on the subject.
It has nothing to do with brainwashing, in my case: it's a simple reflection on the vast history of different governments, what's worked, and what's happened time and time again: whenever the opportunity presents itself, government takes more control from its people. It's as close to a "natural law" as you can get.
As for #2, if I'm driving in a reckless manner (pathetic swipe at SUVs aside) and I am caught, I will be ticketed right now. I don't need a black box for that. If I am NOT, the government has no right to monitor or record what I'm doing.
For #3... but in #2 you said I should have my "details sent out to every cop in the area." Seems like they're watching over me, to me! Your "government is good" bias shows through here: I ask simply: If it truly was an accident, of what business is it of the government at all? In my mind, it's between the driver, anyone else affected, and insurance companies.
#4. Total non-sequitur, but thanks. If the cops stop me after I've run someone over, what does a black box have to do with it? You and your benevolent government are going to put a box in my car
#5. You didn't respond to my concession of insurance - car owner contracts, but that's okay. If I crash and drive off, how exactly does the black box solve that, without monitoring my every move at other times?
As for #6, another complete non-sequitur. It doesn't matter what wonderful utopian ideals you see: Human nature and the nature of bureaucracy demonstrates time and time again that such information will never be used in an objective manner: You get politics involved (which happens because, hey, it's public sector!), you will have a mess on your hands in the long term.
Let me state it for you very simply: The wonderful, nice, "government would never do anything bad with this data" mindset is incredibly naive. Perhaps a black box would help determine the cause of certain accidents, perhaps not. But in the long run, the power given to government with such a system is virtually guaranteed to come back and bite us in the ass.
I also might point out the difference in our mod scores, but I'm sure you wouldn't care.
1. Please study history. It's not the people in power, it's the nature of power itself. Throughout history the same things happen. The USA was designed to be different, but only if the populace remains vigilant (and of course, we're not any longer).
2. Do you seriously believe that once the black boxes are in cars, and once the populace is used to the idea, that government WON'T expand on its use? 30 minutes? Why not 90 minutes in case the car's involved in a hit-and-run? Who can argue against that? Why not RFID transmitters on your car too so when you speed past a checkpoint, they can ring you up for speeding? At that point, why not an RFID transmitter implanted in your arm so that the speed trap can detect exactly who was behind the wheel?
3. There is no reason for the government to be monitoring our activities. This should really be the first argument against this kind of nonsense. What I do in my car, even for 30 minutes at a time, is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS. The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution denies the government the ability to watch over us without probable cause. Are you seriously suggesting that all drivers will probably do something illegal with their cars?
4. I believe privacy concerns would be assuaged somewhat if you limited such "black boxes" to only those who've been convicted of traffic crimes more serious than a simple speeding ticket, and only for a limited time (a form of parole or probation).
5. If an insurance company wanted to give out a large discount for drivers who plant these devices in their cars, more power to them. I'm sure many consumers, who are not worried about privacy, would be more than happy to get a 40% discount on their insurance. The libertarian in me wants to say that's between the insurance company and the driver, but the problem is, our nannies, er, I mean, government, has decreed that all shall have insurance, and there's a slight bit of regulation on the whole industry, so that plan wouldn't work.
6. Please, please stop with the "benefit each and every person" platitudes. It only serves to mark you as naive.
I remember when I thought it was cool to copy games from the boys, run some crack to bust it open and so on and so forth. Then I grew up.
Let me see, the same could be said about many IT companies, churches, governments...
Lies, cover-ups, deceit. Seems like human nature to me!
Agreed. The breathless "only way it can survive!" bullshit let me form my opinion in about as much time as it took to read it.
Well, considering you missed the damn point as well, I might as well humor you with a direct reply.
Monica Lewinsky was an intern right? In your version of reality? Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but sexual relations (the legal def as intercourse or otherwise!) by a boss with an underling is essentially the essence of sexual harrassment right?
Face the fact: Clinton got away with murder (figuratively and, if you buy into the more paranoid fantasies, literally) because of expert lawyers and technicalities so many times it's ridiculous that "people like you continue to insinuate" that he's just a poor, trod-upon soul.
Bush has done some major things wrong, and a few bigger things wrong (Abu Ghraib alone should be enough to kick his ass out of office). I was in HS at the time, but I don't remember Bush Sr doing much of anything... Some might suggest that Clinton brought the hounds upon himself, no? But "people like you continue to insinuate" that poor ol' Clinton was just a victim of the vast, right-wing conspiracy I guess.
Clinton is the worst sort of politician. And before you think I'm just bashing him, Bush is at least as bad. Kerry is no better. The poll-driven mentality of these career blood-suckers is pathetic. Jefferson would cry. And then secede.
Fair enough. I never really cared about it and ran with the "common wisdom". Of course, it's not the point of my post (interesting that yours got the big mod bump, however).
Really, your point makes mine: Clinton, the slippery rogue that he is, essentially got away with all sorts of shenanigans, and people continue to give him a pass.
Fischer will never get that treatment because of the offensive things he's apparently said.
Since, for all eternity, the more popular you are, the less likely your ruling government can destroy you.
If this Fischer guy is a charismatic trickster type, people will love him, and shit that would stick to you and me will slide right off (modern day example: Bill Clinton. Lying under oath, no matter what it's about, is a crime).
If he's an asshole advocating more terrorism and wiping out the Jews, he's not going to get any sympathy from the vast majority of Americans.
Unfortunately for this nutjob, he's apparently the latter.
It's the "figuring out what you want to do" part that is the toughest.
So enlighten us, how did you "find yourself"? Just curious. Most of my loser friends claim their sitting around in a dead-end $10/hr job is because they don't know what to do with themselves, but I believe it's just sloth.