This is the kind of attitude that stops technological progress. Hey, what if Foo Bar happens.
Let the technology flourish, let's see how it works. If there is going to be a problem, we'll find out soon enough. We're not going to die out that easily.
Nukes were supposed to kill us 50 years ago. Surprise! We still haven't managed to blow ourselves up. Ditto for any number of things.
If it's going to be allergic, then ways around it will be found. You will not find them by banning them, but rather by letting people experiment and find out.
I'm honestly sick and tired of this bullshit argument that something should be banned, because a bunch of whiners come up with a what if scenario.
Good response, AC. Would have added you as a friend had you not been AC.
Yes, I'm quite well aware of that. I just meant to say that they do not accept any payments through Paypal. Wasn't nitpicking, just offering information.
You are still trusting the person at the other end. After all this, if the spooks could install sniffers at the other end, your data is still compromised.
Why go that far, the spooks need install stuff on just your machine, or use other means.
Carnivore will never entirely go out of the pictures, it's always a Cat & Mouse game. If this becomes widespread, something else would come up to counter it.
Besides, all this is good only until QC becomes viable and widespread, and at which point your existing encryption systems become quite moot.
True, but there are situations where having such a tool around would be quite handy.
The problem is that one cannot always carry one's laptop all the time, wherever they are. Often times, you end up needing your laptop at a time and place when you are least prepared for it -- I'm sure those of us here who need to shuttle all over the place to meet clients have encountered this.
And besides, the laptop is an insecurity in and of itself. Thieves view it as something that can be stolen, and it is a device that can be physically bugged.
True, you don't necessarily trust a computer off an airport in Paris. However, using that computer with your safe-toolkit is probably a whole lot safer than using your laptop with a bug in it -- hypohetically, ofcourse:-)
So, I suppose this is a good security tool. Not the solution to all the problems, but a good tool neverthless.
Or maybe I'm just being too paranoid. And that black helicopter outside my apartment probably belongs to that hot chick across the street. Who knows!;)
The nesting didn't come out the way he wanted - when you do not give both the closing LI and UL tags, Firefox gets a little confused. This affects nested elements, bold and italic tags and a few other things.
Slash allows you to not close the UL and LI tags. HTML 3.0 spec says that you can omit closing LI, but not UL. When you don't give/close UL, Firefox puts up the closing of all tags at the end of all HTML, or in this case, the post.
You're right - ideally if people did that properly, all is well and good. But he did not and hence the problem. Maybe he did have shards in his eyes and is dying in some hospital. Who knows.
It's early, and here I'm in a stupid class discussing encoding strategies. Bleh.
What I meant was that this is merely an observation, there are some things in nature I do not quite think we can prove completely through purely experimental means except through observation.
I suspect if even the LIGO and LISA experiments conclusively -prove- it experimentally, I think they are more of particular measurements and observation.
I was under the impression that there has been experimental evidence for the existence of Spin Distortions in Lense Thirring effect?
This would mean that inward spiralling matter observed near black-hole like phenomenon were indeed valid physically.
But as the Nature article points out, the accuracy of Ciufolini's work not yet certain, since the value is not absolutely the same as that predicted by relativity (only 99%, with an error of upto 10%). And anyway, the last major prediction of GR -- gravity waves -- is not yet done.
So until then, three cheers for experimental physics!
Slashdot Mirror
No.
;-)
The ego would be too big to fit into an animal that small
Well said.
This is the kind of attitude that stops technological progress. Hey, what if Foo Bar happens.
Let the technology flourish, let's see how it works. If there is going to be a problem, we'll find out soon enough. We're not going to die out that easily.
Nukes were supposed to kill us 50 years ago. Surprise! We still haven't managed to blow ourselves up. Ditto for any number of things.
If it's going to be allergic, then ways around it will be found. You will not find them by banning them, but rather by letting people experiment and find out.
I'm honestly sick and tired of this bullshit argument that something should be banned, because a bunch of whiners come up with a what if scenario.
Good response, AC. Would have added you as a friend had you not been AC.
Yes, I'm quite well aware of that. I just meant to say that they do not accept any payments through Paypal. Wasn't nitpicking, just offering information.
You don't have to grammernazi him over the fact.
:)
Grammernazi is now a verb, too?
And yes, I'm quite aware that the site is down because it's being Slashdotted.
No.
You are still trusting the person at the other end. After all this, if the spooks could install sniffers at the other end, your data is still compromised.
Why go that far, the spooks need install stuff on just your machine, or use other means.
Carnivore will never entirely go out of the pictures, it's always a Cat & Mouse game. If this becomes widespread, something else would come up to counter it.
Besides, all this is good only until QC becomes viable and widespread, and at which point your existing encryption systems become quite moot.
Well, they've provided a torrent too, which seems quite well seeded for the moment. So, should not be a problem!
I'd certainly be willing to paypal the creators of this when a final version is released.
Paypal is now a verb, too?
Their website seems kinda slow now, but they mention somewhere that they do not accept Paypal.
True, but there are situations where having such a tool around would be quite handy.
:-)
;)
The problem is that one cannot always carry one's laptop all the time, wherever they are. Often times, you end up needing your laptop at a time and place when you are least prepared for it -- I'm sure those of us here who need to shuttle all over the place to meet clients have encountered this.
And besides, the laptop is an insecurity in and of itself. Thieves view it as something that can be stolen, and it is a device that can be physically bugged.
True, you don't necessarily trust a computer off an airport in Paris. However, using that computer with your safe-toolkit is probably a whole lot safer than using your laptop with a bug in it -- hypohetically, ofcourse
So, I suppose this is a good security tool. Not the solution to all the problems, but a good tool neverthless.
Or maybe I'm just being too paranoid. And that black helicopter outside my apartment probably belongs to that hot chick across the street. Who knows!
I wonder how many people got what you were really trying to say :)
Good one, though!
That's why even after using Emacs for all these years, I still have a printout of the commands on my desk :-)
I can almost see it coming...
;-)
"I'm sorry, but my Windows crashed"
"Ouch! I pity you, better get Linux before the insurance folks find out"
Wow. Would add a whole new meaning to the term Blue Screen of Death.
The nesting didn't come out the way he wanted - when you do not give both the closing LI and UL tags, Firefox gets a little confused. This affects nested elements, bold and italic tags and a few other things.
See a variant of it at work here.
Slash allows you to not close the UL and LI tags. HTML 3.0 spec says that you can omit closing LI, but not UL. When you don't give/close UL, Firefox puts up the closing of all tags at the end of all HTML, or in this case, the post.
You're right - ideally if people did that properly, all is well and good. But he did not and hence the problem. Maybe he did have shards in his eyes and is dying in some hospital. Who knows.
It's early, and here I'm in a stupid class discussing encoding strategies. Bleh.
I, for one, welcome our new lawn mowing window washing swim suit wearing robotic over...err...dogs?
Man, you do not know who Britney Spears is?
:-|
She's like this, all American icon man. The Princess of Pop and what not.
Sheesh, she encapsulates the spirit of America, and the spirit of the Free World.
Basically, the world wants to be free of her. If only you knew!
That's a brilliant statement, mind if I used it sometime for a sig?
YHBT :)
Do not feed the trolls.
I'm not sure how that is.
"We just have to get used to the fact that we don't have many more genes than a worm," Rubin said.
So how can humans be so complex with relatively few genes?
Seems to me like the instruction sets are the same, while the coding complexity varies?
Mr. Crusher, please get away from the chicken and eggs, and back to your books.
Well, ofcourse.
I get you now.
What I meant was that this is merely an observation, there are some things in nature I do not quite think we can prove completely through purely experimental means except through observation.
I suspect if even the LIGO and LISA experiments conclusively -prove- it experimentally, I think they are more of particular measurements and observation.
NO! Are you out of your mind?
A law is essentially an axiom, and GR is not yet.
Atleast not until all aspects and effects of it are proven completely.
You're right, except that it's theoretically observed around any massive body - even Earth.
It's just that it is easier to observer the phenomenon around blackholes owing to their massive nature.
It's just the -actual- curving of space-time around massive bodies that affect the way objects are drawn towards the massive body.
Actually Frame Dragging is supposed to happen, just that there seems to be some doubts with regard to this experiment in particular.
Besides, I was under the impression that Frame Dragging was already verified experimentally among certain other massive astronomical bodies out there.
I was under the impression that there has been experimental evidence for the existence of Spin Distortions in Lense Thirring effect?
This would mean that inward spiralling matter observed near black-hole like phenomenon were indeed valid physically.
But as the Nature article points out, the accuracy of Ciufolini's work not yet certain, since the value is not absolutely the same as that predicted by relativity (only 99%, with an error of upto 10%). And anyway, the last major prediction of GR -- gravity waves -- is not yet done.
So until then, three cheers for experimental physics!
That's a firefox bug, not a Slashcode bug.
I thought so too, it's already been reported.