The Wiki article, which we know is not canon for anything, references this text as proof:
But Hinc Pudor! or rather Hinc Dolor, heeres the Diuell! It is not the ratling of all this former haile-shot, that can terrifie our Band of Castalian Pen-men from entring into the field: no, no, the murdring Artillery indeede lyes in the roaring mouthes of a company that looke big as if they were the sole and singular Commanders ouer the maine Army of Poesy, yet (if Hermes muster-booke were searcht ouer) theile be found to be the most pitifull pure fresh-water souldiers: they giue out, that they are heires-apparent to Helicon, but an easy Herald may make them meere yonger brothers, or (to say troth) not so much. Beare witnes all you whose wits make you able to be witnesses in this cause, that heere I meddle not with your good Poets, Nam tales, nusquam sunt hic amplius, If you should rake hell, or (as Aristophanes in his Frog sayes) in any Celler deeper than hell, it is hard to finde Spirits of that Fashion. But those Goblins whom I now am co[n]iuring vp, haue bladder-cheekes puft out like a Swizzers breeches (yet being prickt, there comes out nothing but wind) thin-headed fellowes that liue upon the scraps of inuention and trauell with such vagrant soules, and so like Ghosts in white sheets of paper, that the Statute of Rogues may worthily be sued vpon them, because their wits haue no abiding place, and yet wander without a passe-port. Alas, poore wenches (the nine Muses!) how much are you wrongd, to haue such a number of Bastards lying vpo[n] your hands? But turne them out a begging; or if you cannot be rid of their Riming company (as I thinke it will be very hard) then lay your heauie and immortall curse vpon them, that whatsoeuer they weaue (in the motley-loome of their rustie pates) may like a beggers cloake, be full of stolne patches, and yet neuer a patch like one another, that it may be such true lamentable stuffe, that any honest Christian may be sory to see it. Banish these Word-pirates, (you sacred mistresses of learning) into the gulfe of Barbarisme: doome them euerlastingly to liue among dunces: let them not once lick their lips at the Thespian bowle, but onely be glad (and thanke Apollo for it too) if hereafter (as hitherto they haue alwayes) they may quench their poeticall thirst with small beere. Or if they will needes be stealing your Heliconian Nectar, let them (like the dogs of Nylus,) onely lap and away. For this Goatish swarme are those (that where for these many thousand yeares you went for pure maides) haue taken away your good names, these are they that deflowre your beauties. These are those ranck-riders of Art, that haue so spur-gald your lustie wingd Pegasus, that now he begins to be out of flesh, and (euen only for prouander-sake) is glad to shew tricks like Bancks his Curtall. O you Bookes-sellers (that are Factors to the Liberall Sciences) ouer whose Stalles these Drones do dayly flye humming; let Homer, Hesiod, Euripides, and some other mad Greekes with a band of the Latines, lye like musket-shot in their way, when these Goths and Getes set vpon you in your paper fortifications; it is the only Canon, vpon whose mouth they dare not venture, none but the English will take their parts, therefore feare them not, for such a strong breath haue these chese-eaters, that if they do but blow vpon a booke they imagine straight tis blasted; Quod supra nos; nihil ad nos, (they say) that which is aboue our capacitie, shall not passe vnder our commendation. Yet would I haue these Zoilists (of all other) to reade me, if euer I should write any thing worthily: for the blame that knowne-fooles heape vpon a deseruing labour, does not discredit the same, but makes wise men more perfectly in loue with it. Into such a ones hands therefore if I fortune to fall, I will not shrinke an inche, but euen when his teeth are sharpest, and most ready to bite, I will stop his mouth only with this, Hæc mala sunt, sed tu, non meliora facta.
I don't think the wiki editors are capable of confirming what "Word-pirates" might be talking about there. I will say, the parenthetical "(you sacred mistresses of learning)" really doesn't sound like "copyright violators" to me, but feel free to explain with sources what the f**k you're smoking.
I've only ever seen "multiple" lighters confiscated.
I've done most of my flying post 9/11, I think one trip before. I had one of two lighters confiscated, after the agent confirmed you're only allowed the one, kinda. That was pre 9/11.
My mother is a lighter kleptomaniac, she took a flight once with a dozen lighters in her handbag, only realised when they got confiscated on the return trip.
Post 9/11 I had an entire computer sans the case in my carry on luggage, including a power supply which just scans as a black box with wire hanging out of it. All I was asked was, "whatcha got, a playstation in there?", once, at one of about 5 scans.
The idea that you can "make a weapon" from shit at the souveneir shops is ludicrous, simply because it's easier to just bring one with you, or at least significant parts of one.
This. Removing the fucking Facebook virus that resisted all attempts to kill the process or opt out is why I spent most of a Saturday rooting my first Android phone.
The type of people who want Facebook are the type that will take the 5 seconds it takes to install that garbage on their phone, so why in hell would you preload it?
Meta AC is right though. And as for the "support for criminal geeks"; believing the best in people is the default, it has nothing to do with./ or any other group.
Whining however does track very closely with certain groups, who interestingly are enough in abundance on a "biased" site to rate that drivel as 4/insightful.
Because by that logic, you're ok with me drugging you in your sleep, sitting around in your livingroom watching the TV and watching your kids sleep, then leaving before you wake up.
And to extend the analogy to the "damage to others", I send your kids a video after your death of their toothbrushes being used to polish your anus.
Yes it's a stupid analogy, but yours is a stupid argument.
If it was a good attack, you didn't even know you were pwned.
I've seen good attacks... and the only reason they were noticed at all is because they had layered security and some small file changes weren't covered up and someone with time on their hands reading the reports. The client reponse was to ask to stop reading the reports because it was more expensive to repond to the attack which caused other people a loss than to ignore it.
So any time I see a jackass suggesting security isn't something you need to worry about too much, and is "hosting" other people's data, I tend to smirk to myself and be glad they're not hosting mine.
Also the question doesn't indicate where they're trying to get to... but if it's "work" then RH/CentOS/SL own the space.
Enthusiasts use Arch, novices use Ubuntu, conservatives use Debian, business use Redhat.
(Debian is awesome if you have hardware old enough to use it, it's rock solid and I've seen it's version of the kernel/IP stack outperform Redhat as well, but it's a steeper learning curve and doesn't get you as many job interviews).
Most games don't need admin to work, it's more usual for sloppy business software my MYOB to "need" admin because they can't be bothered to do the extra work to make them work without it (as I recall MYOB does some ridiculous direct access of the printer spool folder that makes it necessary to relax the permissions on the spool folder or grant the user local admin).
The few games that "need" admin probably have the same issues, however; I suspect someone that was willing to attempt running them under Wine would have few dramas using filemon and regmon to fix those kind of issues.
They have a billion other customers, do you? Or are Apple very nearly your only customer?
Hell, if Apple were 10% of your income I'd expect you to be very circumspect about what you say about them, but I'm thinking from your straw man logic it's a lot more than that.
I'd have though it was pretty obvious from the "About" section of the Technet site:
TechNet Subscriptions is a subscription program designed to help IT Professionals prepare for critical issues and plan for future deployments by providing them with fast and convenient access to the latest software for evaluation purposes
They get more legalese about it later, but basically; you get a licence to run up machines to create test deployments and test your code on, not to "use" at home or work.
The volume licensing twnth refers to as enterprise licensing is an entirely different beast, and a lot more expensive.
I know a lot of people use Technet as a cheap way to avoid activation hassles and installing warez that are full of back doors, but I thought at least they all knew it wasn't legit.
And just to be clear, it's not even like the iPhone/iPad is doing the real work, it's a massive cloud computer which means none of that even works without a solid internet connection, and it still fails a lot at comprehension.
By "people" you mean "people other than me, I've never tried it". As for Siri, you must have missed the hundreds of articles suggesting that she's suffering from some kind of brain injury, including Woz FFS.
I honestly think they must be pumping some neurotoxin into Apple stores.
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The Wiki article, which we know is not canon for anything, references this text as proof:
But Hinc Pudor! or rather Hinc Dolor, heeres the Diuell! It is not the ratling of all this former haile-shot, that can terrifie our Band of Castalian Pen-men from entring into the field: no, no, the murdring Artillery indeede lyes in the roaring mouthes of a company that looke big as if they were the sole and singular Commanders ouer the maine Army of Poesy, yet (if Hermes muster-booke were searcht ouer) theile be found to be the most pitifull pure fresh-water souldiers: they giue out, that they are heires-apparent to Helicon, but an easy Herald may make them meere yonger brothers, or (to say troth) not so much. Beare witnes all you whose wits make you able to be witnesses in this cause, that heere I meddle not with your good Poets, Nam tales, nusquam sunt hic amplius, If you should rake hell, or (as Aristophanes in his Frog sayes) in any Celler deeper than hell, it is hard to finde Spirits of that Fashion. But those Goblins whom I now am co[n]iuring vp, haue bladder-cheekes puft out like a Swizzers breeches (yet being prickt, there comes out nothing but wind) thin-headed fellowes that liue upon the scraps of inuention and trauell with such vagrant soules, and so like Ghosts in white sheets of paper, that the Statute of Rogues may worthily be sued vpon them, because their wits haue no abiding place, and yet wander without a passe-port. Alas, poore wenches (the nine Muses!) how much are you wrongd, to haue such a number of Bastards lying vpo[n] your hands? But turne them out a begging; or if you cannot be rid of their Riming company (as I thinke it will be very hard) then lay your heauie and immortall curse vpon them, that whatsoeuer they weaue (in the motley-loome of their rustie pates) may like a beggers cloake, be full of stolne patches, and yet neuer a patch like one another, that it may be such true lamentable stuffe, that any honest Christian may be sory to see it. Banish these Word-pirates, (you sacred mistresses of learning) into the gulfe of Barbarisme: doome them euerlastingly to liue among dunces: let them not once lick their lips at the Thespian bowle, but onely be glad (and thanke Apollo for it too) if hereafter (as hitherto they haue alwayes) they may quench their poeticall thirst with small beere. Or if they will needes be stealing your Heliconian Nectar, let them (like the dogs of Nylus,) onely lap and away. For this Goatish swarme are those (that where for these many thousand yeares you went for pure maides) haue taken away your good names, these are they that deflowre your beauties. These are those ranck-riders of Art, that haue so spur-gald your lustie wingd Pegasus, that now he begins to be out of flesh, and (euen only for prouander-sake) is glad to shew tricks like Bancks his Curtall. O you Bookes-sellers (that are Factors to the Liberall Sciences) ouer whose Stalles these Drones do dayly flye humming; let Homer, Hesiod, Euripides, and some other mad Greekes with a band of the Latines, lye like musket-shot in their way, when these Goths and Getes set vpon you in your paper fortifications; it is the only Canon, vpon whose mouth they dare not venture, none but the English will take their parts, therefore feare them not, for such a strong breath haue these chese-eaters, that if they do but blow vpon a booke they imagine straight tis blasted; Quod supra nos; nihil ad nos, (they say) that which is aboue our capacitie, shall not passe vnder our commendation. Yet would I haue these Zoilists (of all other) to reade me, if euer I should write any thing worthily: for the blame that knowne-fooles heape vpon a deseruing labour, does not discredit the same, but makes wise men more perfectly in loue with it. Into such a ones hands therefore if I fortune to fall, I will not shrinke an inche, but euen when his teeth are sharpest, and most ready to bite, I will stop his mouth only with this, Hæc mala sunt, sed tu, non meliora facta.
I don't think the wiki editors are capable of confirming what "Word-pirates" might be talking about there. I will say, the parenthetical "(you sacred mistresses of learning)" really doesn't sound like "copyright violators" to me, but feel free to explain with sources what the f**k you're smoking.
Ah, that most credible of primary sources, the blog....
You're forgetting that the term "piracy" has been used to describe copyright violation for over 400 years. [citation required]
Yes?
Mod Parent Up... GP is a blowhard.
Obligatory? http://xkcd.com/927/
I've only ever seen "multiple" lighters confiscated.
I've done most of my flying post 9/11, I think one trip before. I had one of two lighters confiscated, after the agent confirmed you're only allowed the one, kinda. That was pre 9/11.
My mother is a lighter kleptomaniac, she took a flight once with a dozen lighters in her handbag, only realised when they got confiscated on the return trip.
Post 9/11 I had an entire computer sans the case in my carry on luggage, including a power supply which just scans as a black box with wire hanging out of it. All I was asked was, "whatcha got, a playstation in there?", once, at one of about 5 scans.
The idea that you can "make a weapon" from shit at the souveneir shops is ludicrous, simply because it's easier to just bring one with you, or at least significant parts of one.
No, Google are like the greasy loser that fucks your sister.
Facebook are like the greasy loser that sells your sister for crack.
This. Removing the fucking Facebook virus that resisted all attempts to kill the process or opt out is why I spent most of a Saturday rooting my first Android phone.
The type of people who want Facebook are the type that will take the 5 seconds it takes to install that garbage on their phone, so why in hell would you preload it?
Meta AC is right though. And as for the "support for criminal geeks"; believing the best in people is the default, it has nothing to do with ./ or any other group.
Whining however does track very closely with certain groups, who interestingly are enough in abundance on a "biased" site to rate that drivel as 4/insightful.
Because by that logic, you're ok with me drugging you in your sleep, sitting around in your livingroom watching the TV and watching your kids sleep, then leaving before you wake up.
And to extend the analogy to the "damage to others", I send your kids a video after your death of their toothbrushes being used to polish your anus.
Yes it's a stupid analogy, but yours is a stupid argument.
If it was a good attack, you didn't even know you were pwned.
I've seen good attacks... and the only reason they were noticed at all is because they had layered security and some small file changes weren't covered up and someone with time on their hands reading the reports. The client reponse was to ask to stop reading the reports because it was more expensive to repond to the attack which caused other people a loss than to ignore it.
So any time I see a jackass suggesting security isn't something you need to worry about too much, and is "hosting" other people's data, I tend to smirk to myself and be glad they're not hosting mine.
Mod parent up.
Also the question doesn't indicate where they're trying to get to... but if it's "work" then RH/CentOS/SL own the space.
Enthusiasts use Arch, novices use Ubuntu, conservatives use Debian, business use Redhat.
(Debian is awesome if you have hardware old enough to use it, it's rock solid and I've seen it's version of the kernel/IP stack outperform Redhat as well, but it's a steeper learning curve and doesn't get you as many job interviews).
I'd bet my left nut "a well-known provider of tools for the Systems Administration community" is Atlassian, and they claim there's no issue.
Yeah, the reasoning being "no one's being jailed or killed by the court".
It seems a reasonable standard, until you see it being applied by Judge Judy (is that still on?)
To add: he's got to prove the damages to his business first, then the burden shifts to her to prove his business ripped her off.
You're confusing criminal law and civil; as the defendant she's the one with the burden of proof.
Virtualized NTP is about the dumbest thing I've read on /.
Yes, worse than various conspiracy theories and fanboi wars.
Most games don't need admin to work, it's more usual for sloppy business software my MYOB to "need" admin because they can't be bothered to do the extra work to make them work without it (as I recall MYOB does some ridiculous direct access of the printer spool folder that makes it necessary to relax the permissions on the spool folder or grant the user local admin).
The few games that "need" admin probably have the same issues, however; I suspect someone that was willing to attempt running them under Wine would have few dramas using filemon and regmon to fix those kind of issues.
They have a billion other customers, do you? Or are Apple very nearly your only customer?
Hell, if Apple were 10% of your income I'd expect you to be very circumspect about what you say about them, but I'm thinking from your straw man logic it's a lot more than that.
I'd have though it was pretty obvious from the "About" section of the Technet site:
TechNet Subscriptions is a subscription program designed to help IT Professionals prepare for critical issues and plan for future deployments by providing them with fast and convenient access to the latest software for evaluation purposes
They get more legalese about it later, but basically; you get a licence to run up machines to create test deployments and test your code on, not to "use" at home or work.
The volume licensing twnth refers to as enterprise licensing is an entirely different beast, and a lot more expensive.
I know a lot of people use Technet as a cheap way to avoid activation hassles and installing warez that are full of back doors, but I thought at least they all knew it wasn't legit.
But, of course, that's not actually legal.
Zombie Jobs would go unnoticed in the collective.
Remember the good old days when we used to laugh at the Thais for jailing people for mocking their royal family?
And just to be clear, it's not even like the iPhone/iPad is doing the real work, it's a massive cloud computer which means none of that even works without a solid internet connection, and it still fails a lot at comprehension.
From Apple's own TOS http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/ios51.pdf
When you use Siri or Dictation, the things you say will be recorded and sent to Apple in order to convert what you say into text.
By "people" you mean "people other than me, I've never tried it". As for Siri, you must have missed the hundreds of articles suggesting that she's suffering from some kind of brain injury, including Woz FFS.
I honestly think they must be pumping some neurotoxin into Apple stores.