What did people expect. It's not a new iteration, it's an enhancement. Just because they brand it as a new OS does not make it so.
MS (Steven Sinofsky to be precise) has officially claimed that the kernel version number of 6.1 is only for compatibility reasons, for apps only looking at the major OS version number, and that it otherwise would have been an "NT 7.0". I can't be bothered to find the article now, but some careful Googling on the "Engineering Windows 7" blog would do the trick.
Another of the new Webmaster Tools is Fetch as Googlebot, which shows you a page as Google's crawler sees it.
Heh, could find some use outside of the designed purpose then... A number of pay-to-view web forums allow the Googlebot to freely navigate it, but requires payment from users. Among other boards, those involving erotica.:p
... except that I do mind the means to get them targeted.
Otherwises, besides that, I of course want ads relevant to my interests like an offer to purchase the xkcd book, rather than Viagra and lottery ads. If you must get ads, that is.
Agreed. For all I know, that forces web devs to write according to standards, not browsers. As long as they do this, where's the problem?
It sounds especially odd because Mozilla is one of the web's greatest standard supporters.
Maybe, just, maybe, it's envy because Chrome Frame was released for the web both earlier and with a more complete feature set than their own experimental Screaming Monkey project.
Granted, Mozilla's technology doesn't do as much as Chrome Frame. It does less. But it introduced tag soup into IE. One can now, according to Mozilla's own damn hypocritic opinion because of a technological big brother envy, be sure of how IE render content.
"Once your browser has fragmented into multiple rendering engines, it's very hard to manage information across Web sites" - Mozilla
Oh, and how does adding canvas support reduce confusion when even more complete HTML 5 support won't?
But read on guys... It get funnier.
Ars Technica:
This Canvas plugin is only the first step toward bringing standards-based web technologies to Internet Explorer. Mozilla is working on a much more ambitious initiative called Screaming Monkey that will make it possible to plug Mozilla's entire next-generation JavaScript engine directly into Microsoft's web browser. If these plugins gain widespread acceptance, it will empower web developers and give them the ability to target web standards and not have to compensate as much for Internet Explorer's broken behavior.
Hahaha! I love this! Thanks for the laugh, Mozilla!
Maybe we should just start over completely. Make a new standard that doesn't rely on the rigid and inflexible concept of tags and use a scripting language and have a standard API. Leave HTML for TEXT formatting, and return it back to a document formatting language, leaving dynamic content to a totally separate system....
By now, HTML isn't really used for text formatting anymore, but only a general document structure, with css possible to be dynamically generated through scripting.
That said, I still use Firefox (Somebody PLEASE make AdBlock Plus for Chrome and IE please! )
If you use Firefox, but also want to use Chrome and IE, you'd perhaps be better off with something like Privoxy, set up all your browsers, and uninstall Adblock. Adblocking proxies excels at multibrowser environments, not just for ease of configuration, but with the "one adblocking configuration for all browsers" advantage too.
Actually the ribbon style is not built for eye candy but rather for usability.
True, since large menu hierarchies like those found in Office 2003 may end up as cumbersome and hard to find what you're looking for.
But simple applications like Firefox do not actually suffer from this problem, and I think MS only did this in Windows 7 for Paint and WordPad to showcase their new Ribbon API in Windows 7, much like WordPad was earlier written in MFC to exemplify the MFC C++ library on MSDN.
Stupid, stupid, stupid, IMHO.:-(
Guess why MS isn't releasing the bulk of their apps using the Ribbon UI?
Right. I think I've met more teachers who are better at teaching, than programmers who wish to teach.
I am a programmer, and I am usually quite reluctant to teaching people about e.g. programming, unless I'm paid for it. It is just too much work, much like the idea of helping out random people you barely know because "I know computers". Give me the money, and then we'll talk. And that, without any guarantees that I'm a good teacher, as, like MOST programmers out there, haven't been educated in pedagogy.
I mean, sure, we're many programmers or IT folks here, that's even an understatement.
But let's keep our feet on the ground for a while.
I'm definitely not refuting that you've met programmers who're also good teachers, but this is not an inherent property of being a programmer IMNSHO.
Do you think is is worth it using school-time to do job training that will be obsolete pretty much right after they get a job?
Yes, since the foundation will still be the same, and upgrades are incremental.
We're talking of Windows here, keep that in mind. Not a switch from KDE 3 to KDE 4. At worst, the difference will be like going from XP to Vista, but that's still much "better" (in terms of familiarity) than going from Ubuntu to Vista.
Well, i'll give them this point. But Microsoft has added support for ODF in Office 2007 SP2, however it was the ODF guys who weren't even able to spec out something basic as formulas in a spreadsheet specification.
And, since Windows 7, it even has integrated ODF support in WordPad.
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Feedalizr already does that. :-p It aggregates from FriendFeed, among others, which itself is an aggregator.
Looks like it, like FriendFeed...
I agree, Wave shouldn't even be involved in this discussion.
And this product already exists. Actually, from a number of companies, because this is just social media aggregator, right?
Stuff like this...
* http://friendfeed.com/
* http://www.feedalizr.com/
What did people expect. It's not a new iteration, it's an enhancement. Just because they brand it as a new OS does not make it so.
MS (Steven Sinofsky to be precise) has officially claimed that the kernel version number of 6.1 is only for compatibility reasons, for apps only looking at the major OS version number, and that it otherwise would have been an "NT 7.0". I can't be bothered to find the article now, but some careful Googling on the "Engineering Windows 7" blog would do the trick.
I agree, it sounds so much out of the loop that the only way out might be to open-source the whole thing.
Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL
I guess it was running on an Amiga... :-(
Another of the new Webmaster Tools is Fetch as Googlebot, which shows you a page as Google's crawler sees it.
Heh, could find some use outside of the designed purpose then... A number of pay-to-view web forums allow the Googlebot to freely navigate it, but requires payment from users. Among other boards, those involving erotica. :p
Of course, I didn't RTFA
RTFASummary.
And Microsoft's "Live" moniker.
It's as if someone picked Apple + MS + IBM brands and baked them together.
MAXIMUM RECOGNITION FOR A NEW SERVICE, yeee-haw!
... except that I do mind the means to get them targeted.
Otherwises, besides that, I of course want ads relevant to my interests like an offer to purchase the xkcd book, rather than Viagra and lottery ads. If you must get ads, that is.
I think pretty much everyone agree.
Agreed. For all I know, that forces web devs to write according to standards, not browsers. As long as they do this, where's the problem?
It sounds especially odd because Mozilla is one of the web's greatest standard supporters.
Maybe, just, maybe, it's envy because Chrome Frame was released for the web both earlier and with a more complete feature set than their own experimental Screaming Monkey project.
Oh boy. Here we go.
Mozilla drags IE into the future with Canvas element plugin
Granted, Mozilla's technology doesn't do as much as Chrome Frame. It does less. But it introduced tag soup into IE. One can now, according to Mozilla's own damn hypocritic opinion because of a technological big brother envy, be sure of how IE render content.
"Once your browser has fragmented into multiple rendering engines, it's very hard to manage information across Web sites" - Mozilla
Oh, and how does adding canvas support reduce confusion when even more complete HTML 5 support won't?
But read on guys... It get funnier.
Ars Technica:
This Canvas plugin is only the first step toward bringing standards-based web technologies to Internet Explorer. Mozilla is working on a much more ambitious initiative called Screaming Monkey that will make it possible to plug Mozilla's entire next-generation JavaScript engine directly into Microsoft's web browser. If these plugins gain widespread acceptance, it will empower web developers and give them the ability to target web standards and not have to compensate as much for Internet Explorer's broken behavior.
Hahaha! I love this! Thanks for the laugh, Mozilla!
Maybe we should just start over completely. Make a new standard that doesn't rely on the rigid and inflexible concept of tags and use a scripting language and have a standard API. Leave HTML for TEXT formatting, and return it back to a document formatting language, leaving dynamic content to a totally separate system....
By now, HTML isn't really used for text formatting anymore, but only a general document structure, with css possible to be dynamically generated through scripting.
That said, I still use Firefox (Somebody PLEASE make AdBlock Plus for Chrome and IE please! )
If you use Firefox, but also want to use Chrome and IE, you'd perhaps be better off with something like Privoxy, set up all your browsers, and uninstall Adblock. Adblocking proxies excels at multibrowser environments, not just for ease of configuration, but with the "one adblocking configuration for all browsers" advantage too.
Gone are the menus that go halfway down the screen. Gone are the submenus nested three layers deep.
True, but the issue here is that Firefox do not even suffer from these problems.
Actually the ribbon style is not built for eye candy but rather for usability.
True, since large menu hierarchies like those found in Office 2003 may end up as cumbersome and hard to find what you're looking for.
But simple applications like Firefox do not actually suffer from this problem, and I think MS only did this in Windows 7 for Paint and WordPad to showcase their new Ribbon API in Windows 7, much like WordPad was earlier written in MFC to exemplify the MFC C++ library on MSDN.
Stupid, stupid, stupid, IMHO. :-(
Guess why MS isn't releasing the bulk of their apps using the Ribbon UI?
Killjoy! Here I was hoping they would end with a bang. :-(
Dick Pick
LOL. Oh, I'm sorry... *blush*
The only problem
with Haiku is that you just
get started and then
Yeah, fuck this test if IE won!
Right. I think I've met more teachers who are better at teaching, than programmers who wish to teach.
I am a programmer, and I am usually quite reluctant to teaching people about e.g. programming, unless I'm paid for it. It is just too much work, much like the idea of helping out random people you barely know because "I know computers". Give me the money, and then we'll talk. And that, without any guarantees that I'm a good teacher, as, like MOST programmers out there, haven't been educated in pedagogy.
I mean, sure, we're many programmers or IT folks here, that's even an understatement.
But let's keep our feet on the ground for a while.
I'm definitely not refuting that you've met programmers who're also good teachers, but this is not an inherent property of being a programmer IMNSHO.
"This was actually the planet Jupiter and it can be characterised by being by far the brightest star in the entire night sky," he said.
... and Jupiter is apparently promoted to "star" status now too. What the HELL. *cries*
and the other was a rock from space
A meteor, in other words?
Damn idiocracy.
Do you think is is worth it using school-time to do job training that will be obsolete pretty much right after they get a job?
Yes, since the foundation will still be the same, and upgrades are incremental.
We're talking of Windows here, keep that in mind. Not a switch from KDE 3 to KDE 4. At worst, the difference will be like going from XP to Vista, but that's still much "better" (in terms of familiarity) than going from Ubuntu to Vista.
Well, i'll give them this point. But Microsoft has added support for ODF in Office 2007 SP2, however it was the ODF guys who weren't even able to spec out something basic as formulas in a spreadsheet specification.
And, since Windows 7, it even has integrated ODF support in WordPad.