Isn't all information potential file data? Is Microsoft really doing something different than has been done before?
Not really, WinFS is a service that runs in the background to help in categorizing and searching for files that are stored in the good ol' NTFS file system. WinFS internally uses NTFS streams to store metadata. NTFS streams are already present and fully supported in both Windows 2000 and XP already, but not that widely used by these operating systems.
You can make some basic use of streams by right clicking on a file in Windows XP, selecting Properties, and then selecting the Summary tab. The information you type in there is associated with the file as streams. There's a program at Sysinternals.com to display and set any streams for any file.
Similarly, NTFS supports hard links, junctions (to mount drives as folders), sparse files and more "cool" stuff that the OS doesn't have graphical interfaces for. A bit funny.:-P
Here's a slighly more detailed list of changed plans:
- No WinFS - WinFX, the new API to replace Win32 will also be released for Windows 2000 and XP. - Indigo, the new communications infrastructure for Longhorn will be released for Windows 2000 and XP. - Avalon, the presentational subsystem in Longhorn will be released for Windows 2000 and XP.
So, in essence, it seems like the difference will be as great as that between Windows 2000 and XP -- a bit of polish and a new interface, maybe semi-3D this time. And that's when Microsoft is working hard? I have no idea why I should check out Longhorn as Windows XP will be far more mature at the time (and maturity plays a huge role in Microsoft's products), and Longhorn seemingly won't even bring any major new features.:-S
I have no idea why they're backporting a lot of key features to XP and 2000 either. I would understand it better if they developed under an open source model, but this company should want profit from selling licenses! Huh?
By the way, WinFS was never a file system, it's supposed to be an extension to NTFS. So one of the links that say "more than a file system" is horribly incorrect.
All MS is doing is going back over old ground doing the same old things all over again. Where the heck's the innovation Mr Bill was concerned about losing his freedom in which to engage?
Last time I checked, updates to ReiserFS and replicas of WinFS, new/improved windowing systems (KDE 3.4, Gnome 2.6) and improved security were all either in planning or under development for e.g. Linux distros. But I suppose you'd whine in a thread about Linux too, or?
Then there was some confusion, because "WinFS" sounded like a new file system. Then it was called a service on top of NTFS, which wasn't as dramatic. Now it's unclear what it'll end up being.
It always was a service running on top of NTFS, that utilized NTFS streams (that are already supported in Windows 2000 and Windows XP). Well, at least it was even back in the first alphas seen. The latest pre-beta builds of Longhorn has shown that WinFS is still implemented as a service.
WinFS isn't (and, again, never was) "Windows File System", it's Windows Future Storage. It's called like this since to the user the files will look like they're stored in a vastly different way. But not really to NTFS. "Storages" is a more abstract way for MS to represent actual file locations that are unbound to the devices and directories they're stored on. It's a term they're using in WinFS.
One is going to be "beta" and two are going to be released for current OSes. MS *has* scaled their plans back.
No, beta is what you call prerelease quality implementations. While some might say "this is what MS always do", reducing the scope of WinFS doesn't turn it into beta quality. It just turns it into a file system extension that will do a bit less. It's two completely different things. Beta is a stage in software development, not in a feature set. If they in the future expands the WinFS feature set, it'll just be a new version of WinFS, just like how they did with NTFS in 2000 and XP.
- TCP data cannot be sent over raw sockets. - UDP datagrams with invalid source addresses cannot be sent over raw sockets.
Some changes to combat worms:
- Updated TCP/IP stack to limit the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. After the limit has been reached, subsequent connection attempts are put in a queue and will be resolved at a fixed rate. This only applies when connecting to unavailable hosts, for example worms like Sasser guessing where to spread to.
Bah, I see that was a Telecine... Maybe I confused them with those.:-) Anyway, although these are higher quality than TS's, these are also sub-DVD quality.
I'd say it's more like this: What format is used for piracy is directly related to how common the media is on the market. CD's are probably still more commonly used than DVD's, but one can't say that DVD hasn't became much more common only the last few years without lying.
I've also seen some Telesync rips being more and more commonly as DVDR to minimize quality loss.
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All the cost and none of the sex? Whats the friggin point?!?!?!
I heard she's into anal sex.
Turn on the phone's vibrator and put it in to see yourself!
I use Miranda myself, and gets a clean and powerful interface while maintaining the benefits with being ad-free while still having offline messaging, etc.
I'd like to know the guy (I assume it's a guy) that made this virus. "Woo, I just got this idea -- if I write a virus to see other users, I might see pr0n!"
Hmm, on second though I'm not sure I'd like to know him.:-S
In one scene, a character named Greedy, played by George Lucas himself, will shoot a character called Hastwo Scriptoo first... The movie will end up among the most watched movies of the year and everyone will hate it.
Yes, all of these accidents are bad, but neither affect the nature as bad as a meltdown. Going boom and killing a bunch isn't as bad as killing a bunch and making the land uninhabitable for decades after. Windmills kill birds? Oh noes, think of the birdies! Let's go for nuclear power, that can impossibly kill birds!
has sources in stable countries
While I agree fossil fuels are also not a good choice, I don't see what you're trying to say here. Guess why Norway has among the highest GDP in the world? Hmm, maybe because it's the third largest oil exporter in the world...
The greatest terrorist there is probably DVD-Jon, at least according to MPAA.:-P
Probably, but I guess it's more convenient to just let them all have their own IP address. Otherwise each home would need some sort of standardized device that gets an IP address that all internet-enabled devices you can think of would have to support. Sounds a bit awkward to me:-/
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Isn't all information potential file data? Is Microsoft really doing something different than has been done before?
:-P
Not really, WinFS is a service that runs in the background to help in categorizing and searching for files that are stored in the good ol' NTFS file system. WinFS internally uses NTFS streams to store metadata. NTFS streams are already present and fully supported in both Windows 2000 and XP already, but not that widely used by these operating systems.
You can make some basic use of streams by right clicking on a file in Windows XP, selecting Properties, and then selecting the Summary tab. The information you type in there is associated with the file as streams. There's a program at Sysinternals.com to display and set any streams for any file.
Similarly, NTFS supports hard links, junctions (to mount drives as folders), sparse files and more "cool" stuff that the OS doesn't have graphical interfaces for. A bit funny.
Here's a slighly more detailed list of changed plans:
:-S
- No WinFS
- WinFX, the new API to replace Win32 will also be released for Windows 2000 and XP.
- Indigo, the new communications infrastructure for Longhorn will be released for Windows 2000 and XP.
- Avalon, the presentational subsystem in Longhorn will be released for Windows 2000 and XP.
So, in essence, it seems like the difference will be as great as that between Windows 2000 and XP -- a bit of polish and a new interface, maybe semi-3D this time. And that's when Microsoft is working hard? I have no idea why I should check out Longhorn as Windows XP will be far more mature at the time (and maturity plays a huge role in Microsoft's products), and Longhorn seemingly won't even bring any major new features.
I have no idea why they're backporting a lot of key features to XP and 2000 either. I would understand it better if they developed under an open source model, but this company should want profit from selling licenses! Huh?
By the way, WinFS was never a file system, it's supposed to be an extension to NTFS. So one of the links that say "more than a file system" is horribly incorrect.
All MS is doing is going back over old ground doing the same old things all over again. Where the heck's the innovation Mr Bill was concerned about losing his freedom in which to engage?
Last time I checked, updates to ReiserFS and replicas of WinFS, new/improved windowing systems (KDE 3.4, Gnome 2.6) and improved security were all either in planning or under development for e.g. Linux distros. But I suppose you'd whine in a thread about Linux too, or?
Then there was some confusion, because "WinFS" sounded like a new file system. Then it was called a service on top of NTFS, which wasn't as dramatic. Now it's unclear what it'll end up being.
It always was a service running on top of NTFS, that utilized NTFS streams (that are already supported in Windows 2000 and Windows XP). Well, at least it was even back in the first alphas seen. The latest pre-beta builds of Longhorn has shown that WinFS is still implemented as a service.
WinFS isn't (and, again, never was) "Windows File System", it's Windows Future Storage. It's called like this since to the user the files will look like they're stored in a vastly different way. But not really to NTFS. "Storages" is a more abstract way for MS to represent actual file locations that are unbound to the devices and directories they're stored on. It's a term they're using in WinFS.
One is going to be "beta" and two are going to be released for current OSes. MS *has* scaled their plans back.
No, beta is what you call prerelease quality implementations. While some might say "this is what MS always do", reducing the scope of WinFS doesn't turn it into beta quality. It just turns it into a file system extension that will do a bit less. It's two completely different things. Beta is a stage in software development, not in a feature set. If they in the future expands the WinFS feature set, it'll just be a new version of WinFS, just like how they did with NTFS in 2000 and XP.
I, for one, welcome our new female overlords.
Learn to read. He said it does NOT stand for that.
:-)
Hehe... OK, let's straighten this out
He said P2P doesn't stand for piracy to make his point that P2P networks should be closed, since he thinks they're all about piracy today.
What did you think? That Ashcroft goes saying "ooh there's no piracy to be seen on P2P networks, move along...", yet advocates home raids!?
'P2P does not stand for 'permission to pilfer,' Ashcroft said
:-P
No, it stands for Peer To Peer, which is unrelated to piracy.
I dunno, but that quote sounded like Ashcroft was thinking P2P = Piracy To People or something like that.
Some changes to combat DDoS attacks:
- TCP data cannot be sent over raw sockets.
- UDP datagrams with invalid source addresses cannot be sent over raw sockets.
Some changes to combat worms:
- Updated TCP/IP stack to limit the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. After the limit has been reached, subsequent connection attempts are put in a queue and will be resolved at a fixed rate. This only applies when connecting to unavailable hosts, for example worms like Sasser guessing where to spread to.
Duh, they're either 74 or 80 minutes long...sheesh!
:-/
And the data they can store weighs in at 650 or 700 MB.
Always hated that terminology.
Hey, that's kind of how my very first CD-R drive worked. A cheap Mitsumi one. Yuck...
:-((
After around maybe 20 CD-R's, I was stuck and it couldn't write any more.
Bah, I see that was a Telecine... Maybe I confused them with those. :-)
Anyway, although these are higher quality than TS's, these are also sub-DVD quality.
A DVD has 4.7Gb right? But people trade quality for size, and rip it to 700Mb files. How about Telesync?
Huh?
I'd say it's more like this: What format is used for piracy is directly related to how common the media is on the market. CD's are probably still more commonly used than DVD's, but one can't say that DVD hasn't became much more common only the last few years without lying.
I've also seen some Telesync rips being more and more commonly as DVDR to minimize quality loss.
All the cost and none of the sex? Whats the friggin point?!?!?!
I heard she's into anal sex.
Turn on the phone's vibrator and put it in to see yourself!
So use a client that supports the ICQ network?
I use Miranda myself, and gets a clean and powerful interface while maintaining the benefits with being ad-free while still having offline messaging, etc.
Oh, it was you! :-)
http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2004/01/star_ wars_episode_vii_viii_ix.html
Geeks can just go any lengths to meet a girl. :-o
:-S
I'd like to know the guy (I assume it's a guy) that made this virus. "Woo, I just got this idea -- if I write a virus to see other users, I might see pr0n!"
Hmm, on second though I'm not sure I'd like to know him.
In one scene, a character named Greedy, played by George Lucas himself, will shoot a character called Hastwo Scriptoo first...
The movie will end up among the most watched movies of the year and everyone will hate it.
Doh! You missed one!
:-)
The -- dum-di-dum -- intelligent computers!
You know, those installed in all spaceships.
Well, we have those chatterbots.
I guess you could call that a start too.
We have wireless tasers that use a laser to ionise the air then an electric current jumps towards the victim from a battery.
:-)
I guess this is one of those in action.
But I'm not jumping in joy until we have portable tesla coils. Mwahaha!
Just imagine all the uses...
I tried unsuccessfully for about 5 times before I read the instructions. And yes, it really is that easy.
OMG! Don't trust that translation, it was written by an evil Microsoft MVP!
Yes, I know even some geeks that have done it. :-)
:D
I think I'll try it out later today.
When did you stop trusting sponsored 'research'?"
When I heard about the sponsors of said research?
Yes, all of these accidents are bad, but neither affect the nature as bad as a meltdown. Going boom and killing a bunch isn't as bad as killing a bunch and making the land uninhabitable for decades after. Windmills kill birds? Oh noes, think of the birdies! Let's go for nuclear power, that can impossibly kill birds!
:-P
has sources in stable countries
While I agree fossil fuels are also not a good choice, I don't see what you're trying to say here. Guess why Norway has among the highest GDP in the world? Hmm, maybe because it's the third largest oil exporter in the world...
The greatest terrorist there is probably DVD-Jon, at least according to MPAA.
Probably, but I guess it's more convenient to just let them all have their own IP address. Otherwise each home would need some sort of standardized device that gets an IP address that all internet-enabled devices you can think of would have to support. Sounds a bit awkward to me :-/