Nonsense. It's barbaric to start a war. It's hardly barbaric to end one.
Well, that depends on how you do it... I sure hope other nations didn't use the American Way of ending a war as a good example of how to best do it...:-P
Here's a list of a few applications that has been reported having problems in the latest betas of SP2, compiled from comments at Neowin when they posted these news:
- Zone Alarm 2 (uninstall stops working) - BS Player (driver fail to load) - Roxio Easy Media Creator 7 - Microsoft Intellipoint 5.0 - Azureus BitTorrent client - ATI's Rage3DTweak for Radeon - Easy CD Creator 5 - eMule - Tritton NAS-120's Managment Interface - Leadtek WINFAST TV PVR (driver fail to load) - ISO Recorder Powertoy
Also, a user reports the Windows XP SP2 firewall blocking incoming FTP traffic even without an installed firewall, and XP's built-in disabled.
Maybe it's "beta diseases", but it does seem like a lot to break for a service pack, even in a beta. These are usually quite stable as they contain mostly bugfixes, not Win32 API changes (which these problems are supposedely caused by).
I know you're trying to make a political point, but it has been estimated that, although different radionuclides were released, the total radioactivity of the material from Chernobyl was 200 times that of the combined releases from the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I think what matters most is that more people died from it in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Even if the radioactivity was 200x less, it still was much more than enough to wipe out entire cities.
Some survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic attacks reported being able to see the flash with their eyes closed. X-rays or not, that's certainly not normal visible light by any means.
I think this proves that this geek has never been to a beach to get a tan.
Since then, when you close your eyes, it's still sure as hell brighter than when you close your eyes in a dark room in front of your computer.
But of course, this geek is probably unable to make the comparison.:-)
You said:
According to your own "UNCONFIRMED" (not "verified") bug, Linux also becomes unstable from using Mozilla FireFox.
Your parent said: When FireFox crashes under Linux, Linux remains completely stable. (I suppose you could have guessed that.)
dyslexic or just too fucking stupid to read the comment you're replying to?
Whoa, chill down a bit and you'll also see that according to his unconfirmed bug, Linux indeed also becomes unstable. I'll spell it out for you:
During the Linux replication, I was able to successfully open 67 new windows (although there was significant system degradation beginning after the 44th window). On the 68th window, Firefox hung. Firefox then proceeded to close all the windows. I had to reboot the machine in order to restore system stability.
Amen brother. This one is years and years old now.
I'm using Mozilla Firefox and it never stalls. Back when I used Mozilla 1.2 or whatever it was, it never stalled for me. Is it a new bug?
Only reason nothing has been done about it is that it's a problem with win32 only. So all those OS linux developers pretend it's not their problem at all.
Win32 only bugs are often fixed. I'll just ignore this assumption.
First, what's the problem? Why not use Slashdot to get help?
Second, why test against Netscape 7? Mozilla share the same rendering engine and that's what matters. You're only creating extra work by testing in Netscape 7.
Yes, and I doubt it's Windows XP on its own crashing it either. Must be some hardware or other software doing it. I'm also having trouble seeing how Firefox, of all software, could take down XP as it very rarely crash due to bad software. Writing outside its allocated memory will for example only force XP to crash the application.
the U.S. has had an established computer base for a longer time than other places
You bring up an interesting point, but I doubt computers stay hijacked for long enough that this should make a difference. Right now, most civilized countries have had computers for several years, so for a US computer to spread spam today due to an infection from US being computerized earlier, it would have to be a computer that's maybe 5-6 years old, without OS reinstalls, hard drive failures, anti virus scans. It would also have to still stay connected to the internet and be in use. I doubt the amount of computers like this are large enough to make a difference.
Yup, XP is 5.1. At least their version numbers (still) tell the truth about how much differences there *really* are beneath the "pretty" surface. 3.1 to 4.0 (95) was a pretty huge leap, not only GUI-wise. So was Windows 2000 (5.0), which some consider Microsoft's greatest improvement. Windows Longhorn will be Windows 6.0.
I don't think that's a too outrageous statement. I can't really recall a wide spread exploit made before MS knew about the flaw at least. Maybe some minor things, but nothing too big. The horrible Blaster worm was for example extremely well spread at its worst, but it wasn't because Microsoft hadn't got a patch for the flaw.
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about Sindarin :-)
It's these huge text masses about weird languages that can make one wonder about the authors mental state!
Nonsense. It's barbaric to start a war. It's hardly barbaric to end one.
:-P
Well, that depends on how you do it... I sure hope other nations didn't use the American Way of ending a war as a good example of how to best do it...
I actually meant 200x LESS. I was comparing Hiroshima with Chernobyl, not the other way around.
The difference here is that you're speculating, while the victims are the hard facts.
Here's a list of a few applications that has been reported having problems in the latest betas of SP2, compiled from comments at Neowin when they posted these news:
- Zone Alarm 2 (uninstall stops working)
- BS Player (driver fail to load)
- Roxio Easy Media Creator 7
- Microsoft Intellipoint 5.0
- Azureus BitTorrent client
- ATI's Rage3DTweak for Radeon
- Easy CD Creator 5
- eMule
- Tritton NAS-120's Managment Interface
- Leadtek WINFAST TV PVR (driver fail to load)
- ISO Recorder Powertoy
Also, a user reports the Windows XP SP2 firewall blocking incoming FTP traffic even without an installed firewall, and XP's built-in disabled.
Maybe it's "beta diseases", but it does seem like a lot to break for a service pack, even in a beta. These are usually quite stable as they contain mostly bugfixes, not Win32 API changes (which these problems are supposedely caused by).
I know you're trying to make a political point, but it has been estimated that, although different radionuclides were released, the total radioactivity of the material from Chernobyl was 200 times that of the combined releases from the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I think what matters most is that more people died from it in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Even if the radioactivity was 200x less, it still was much more than enough to wipe out entire cities.
Some survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic attacks reported being able to see the flash with their eyes closed.
:-)
X-rays or not, that's certainly not normal visible light by any means.
I think this proves that this geek has never been to a beach to get a tan.
Since then, when you close your eyes, it's still sure as hell brighter than when you close your eyes in a dark room in front of your computer.
But of course, this geek is probably unable to make the comparison.
A hot chick on a motorcycle cruising through radioactive ruins pursued by marauders has 80's postapocolyptic action flick written all over it.
:-)
Hehe, that quote actually made me think of the Dark Angel series
Or maybe it's used because it has two meanings... Unreal graphics in an unreal world...
Also, in Windows XP, killing explorer.exe usually cause it auto-relaunch itself with no further actions necessary.
Whoa, chill down a bit and you'll also see that according to his unconfirmed bug, Linux indeed also becomes unstable. I'll spell it out for you:
That was all he was saying.
Amen brother. This one is years and years old now.
I'm using Mozilla Firefox and it never stalls. Back when I used Mozilla 1.2 or whatever it was, it never stalled for me. Is it a new bug?
Only reason nothing has been done about it is that it's a problem with win32 only. So all those OS linux developers pretend it's not their problem at all.
Win32 only bugs are often fixed. I'll just ignore this assumption.
First, what's the problem? Why not use Slashdot to get help?
Second, why test against Netscape 7? Mozilla share the same rendering engine and that's what matters. You're only creating extra work by testing in Netscape 7.
Yes, and I doubt it's Windows XP on its own crashing it either. Must be some hardware or other software doing it. I'm also having trouble seeing how Firefox, of all software, could take down XP as it very rarely crash due to bad software. Writing outside its allocated memory will for example only force XP to crash the application.
Mozilla's Asa Dotzler may also post a transcript from the press conference later at his blog.
Now that's the level I'd like this discussion to be on. :)
Meh... It's even worse than Microsoft's naming scheme. At least they still know the difference between years and version numbers and don't mix them.
Haldeman is probably also right in that the taxpayer deserves a thorough analysis.
Probably lawsuits in general too, like fat kids suing McDonalds because they get fat and RIAA suing because their business model has stopped working.
:-)
:-(
:-P
Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the country between DVD-Jon and Linus.
But some US bad influences (like DMCA) are slowly making its way here too.
I'll enjoy my rights to download copyrighted material legally while it lasts (only uploading forbidden yet).
the U.S. has had an established computer base for a longer time than other places
You bring up an interesting point, but I doubt computers stay hijacked for long enough that this should make a difference. Right now, most civilized countries have had computers for several years, so for a US computer to spread spam today due to an infection from US being computerized earlier, it would have to be a computer that's maybe 5-6 years old, without OS reinstalls, hard drive failures, anti virus scans. It would also have to still stay connected to the internet and be in use. I doubt the amount of computers like this are large enough to make a difference.
Yup, XP is 5.1. At least their version numbers (still) tell the truth about how much differences there *really* are beneath the "pretty" surface. 3.1 to 4.0 (95) was a pretty huge leap, not only GUI-wise. So was Windows 2000 (5.0), which some consider Microsoft's greatest improvement. Windows Longhorn will be Windows 6.0.
I don't think that's a too outrageous statement. I can't really recall a wide spread exploit made before MS knew about the flaw at least. Maybe some minor things, but nothing too big. The horrible Blaster worm was for example extremely well spread at its worst, but it wasn't because Microsoft hadn't got a patch for the flaw.
The implication there is that only Microsoft finds exploits. Forgive me if I'm skeptical.
Hmm, +5 Insightful? Did everyone suddenly forget about SecurityFocus.com, etc? Microsoft doesn't find much at all in my opinion.
I've had the unfortunate experience of attempting to generate XML using Microsoft's MSXML object.
.NET framework seems to be very easy to use.
:-)
If you want to stick with MS API's, creating XML parsers in the
But maybe you want to stick with hardcore MSXML coding now that you learnt it the hard way.
lol!
A funny thing is that it stays on the gogole.com domain and doesn't redirect you? Hmm