Read the article but I couldn't see how this will do a better job at finding life than previous probes sent to Mars?
We've looked for life since the Viking probes in the 70's and it wouldn't surprise me if they'll send yet another one after this to "check for life so we're really, *really* sure nothing is there before we send any actual humans".
Ok, I think I understand the problem better now - thanks. It was also sort of the answer I expected... Sun might not have the resources to develop and support several different low-level compilers.:-/
If you want a "faster," not cross platform language use C or Objective-C. Java isn't what you want.
I want a cross-platform language and Java isn't what I want? The problem is that I want it to be fast too. C++ (which I also program) isn't exactly portable. Java isn't exactly fast.
But GCJ was exactly what I was talking about.:) Interesting.
I must admit there is still a lot of work to do in this area, but once this will be addressed, Performance could really increase by much...
Yeah, it use to sound like this (one day - one day!). I'm sure the JIT does an amazing job at optimizing in real-time, but I don't think it's as good as true, "precompiled", native code.
Well, tell them to get fucked and go and read the Java tutorial then!
Hey, it's hard to figure out the classpath! You need to take the dots and change them into slashes, for crying out loud! And never forget the classpath is relative to the base directory! my head hurts... *sob*
Not only the source would be portable, but also the bytecode, as always. No changes, just a damn bytecode compiler. Of course, the java interpreter should still be included if you for some reason didn't want to run optimized code for your CPU or had a CPU that wasn't supported with specialized native code compilers.
The only thing that would mess things up would of course be if someone just distributed the native compiled code, but wouldn't that be just a brainless thing to do since if you included the bytecode everyone would be able to use it?
To further add to the confusion: "Java 3" is used here at/. while the article talk about "Java 3.0" even if the current version, Java 1.4, is *way* off being Java 2.0.
I had nothing to do and asked Elbot a few questions:
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Me: What do you think of GRACE? ELBOT: Are you taking a poll? Me: I wouldn't call it a poll... ELBOT: I realize this is a typical marketing question, but I'm supposed to ask it, otherwise they'll use the cheap oil on me. So, where did you find out about me? Me: I knew about you since earlier. ELBOT: Amazing! I must have underestimated your intellect! Me: So... What do you think about GRACE? ELBOT: My opinion on that matter is so revolutionary, I prefer to keep it to myself. Me: I see chatterbots still have a long way to go. ELBOT: Really? I could have sworn you missed that.
---
So.. The only thing the bastard gave me was some rude answers and kept his opinions about GRACE top secret. Bah... So much for AI's.:P
Perhaps I should have asked good ol' Alice instead.
.. and of course I've been to an optician, but I didn't demand glasses to see those special 3D images.;) I saw good enough in traffic, etc he said, so...:)
Yes, we apparently have similar problems. I too compensate with the other eye and with both I can see perfectly fine. I don't get headaches, etc either.
And to the poster saying I was wrong, well, you said you used glasses. Wouldn't that improve sight on your "bad" eye good enough to make them equal? I'm not using glasses since there is normally no need to.
I knew about that technique and tried but failed in getting any 3D effect like usual. I think it's because I have crystal clear vision on my left eye and quite poor on my right. I think that method requires you to have about the same vision on both eyes.
"some disappointment that we didn't get to try the DMCA against such a stupid case"
lol...
Is this one out of 3?:)
I think I would have rather it had been tested (Score:5, Insightful) by tlambert on Thursday August 01, @10:45PM (#3996512) (User #566799 Info) I think I would have rather it had been tested in court.
Ok, it was taken out of context, but I smiled when I saw the topic come up after reading your comment.:)
Eric comes quite close to being a computer. When he games, he methodically considers each possibility before choosing his preferred option. If given time, he will invariably pick the optimum solution. It has been known to take weeks. He is otherwise in all respects a superior gamer, and I've spent many happy hours competing with and against him, as long as he is given enough time.
So... Eric was playing a neutral paladin (Why should only lawful, good religions get to have holy warriors? was the rationale) in Ed's game. He even had a holy sword, which fought well and did all those things holy swords are supposed to do, including good or evil (by random die roll). He was on some lord's lands when the following exchange occurred:
ED: You see a well-groomed garden. In the middle, on a small hill, you
see a gazebo. ERIC: A gazebo? What color is it? ED: (Pause) It's white, Eric. ERIC: How far away is it? ED: About 50 yards. ERIC: How big is it? ED: (Pause) It's about 30 feet across, 15 feet high, with a pointed
top. ERIC: I use my sword to detect whether it's good. ED: It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo! ERIC: (Pause) I call out to it. ED: It won't answer. It's a gazebo! ERIC: (Pause) I sheathe my sword and draw my bow and arrows. Does it
respond in any way? ED: No, Eric. It's a gazebo! ERIC: I shoot it with my bow (rolls to hit). What happened? ED: There is now a gazebo with an arrow sticking out of it. ERIC: (Pause) Wasn't it wounded? ED: Of course not, Eric! It's a gazebo! ERIC: (Whimper) But that was a plus-three arrow! ED: It's a gazebo, Eric, a gazebo! If you really want to try to
destroy it, you could try to chop it wih an axe, I suppose, or you
could try to burn it, but I don't know why anybody would even try.
It's a @#%$*& gazebo! ERIC: (Long pause - he has no axe or fire spells) I run away. ED: (Thoroughly frustrated) It's too late. You've awakened the gazebo,
and it catches you and eats you. ERIC: (Reaching for his dice) Maybe I'll roll up a fire-using mage so
I can avenge my paladin...
At this point, the increasingly amused fellow party members restored a modicum of order by explaining what a gazebo is. This is solely an afterthought, of course, but Eric is doubly lucky that the gazebo was not situated on a grassy knoll.
You hit the counter with your +1 "HTTP GET". The counter is still standing, and glaring in your direction. The gazebo next to it isn't looking happy, either.
Moments later, the Slashdot Effect approaches acaeum.com and strikes with his +5 vorpal Siteslayer while muttering "damn those webservers thinking they are something". Then he goes back to his eternal rest, only awakened by new sounds from Members of Slashdot approaching a site.
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Read the article but I couldn't see how this will do a better job at finding life than previous probes sent to Mars?
We've looked for life since the Viking probes in the 70's and it wouldn't surprise me if they'll send yet another one after this to "check for life so we're really, *really* sure nothing is there before we send any actual humans".
But I guess they want to know more than if the sun has risen or not, like if it's clody, looks like it's going to be rain, etc.
If it only was for sun up/down, you can do that calculation in your head if you know the time zone.
Ok, I think I understand the problem better now - thanks. It was also sort of the answer I expected... Sun might not have the resources to develop and support several different low-level compilers. :-/
Ah, thanks for sorting that out. :)
But the author still had "Java 3.0" in his article which I found funny. But perhaps he's talking about a Java quite a bit into the future.
If you want a "faster," not cross platform language use C or Objective-C. Java isn't what you want.
:) Interesting.
I want a cross-platform language and Java isn't what I want? The problem is that I want it to be fast too. C++ (which I also program) isn't exactly portable. Java isn't exactly fast.
But GCJ was exactly what I was talking about.
I must admit there is still a lot of work to do in this area, but once this will be addressed,
Performance could really increase by much...
Yeah, it use to sound like this (one day - one day!). I'm sure the JIT does an amazing job at optimizing in real-time, but I don't think it's as good as true, "precompiled", native code.
Well, tell them to get fucked and go and read the Java tutorial then!
Hey, it's hard to figure out the classpath! You need to take the dots and change them into slashes, for crying out loud! And never forget the classpath is relative to the base directory! my head hurts... *sob*
I always wondered why Sun didn't make compilers for the most common OS'es. So we'd have something like this:
.. or .. .. etc.
Java Source -> Bytecode -> Windows
Java Source -> Bytecode -> Solaris
Not only the source would be portable, but also the bytecode, as always. No changes, just a damn bytecode compiler. Of course, the java interpreter should still be included if you for some reason didn't want to run optimized code for your CPU or had a CPU that wasn't supported with specialized native code compilers.
The only thing that would mess things up would of course be if someone just distributed the native compiled code, but wouldn't that be just a brainless thing to do since if you included the bytecode everyone would be able to use it?
???
To further add to the confusion: "Java 3" is used here at /. while the article talk about "Java 3.0" even if the current version, Java 1.4, is *way* off being Java 2.0.
Hmm...
...?
:-)
"Java 1" is traditionally Java 1.1.x.
"Java 2" is Java 1.2.x.
"Java 3" is
Anyway, Java 1.4.x is out now.
www.ufofinland.net
wtf? UFO Finland?
hm... lol
I had nothing to do and asked Elbot a few questions:
:P
---
Me: What do you think of GRACE?
ELBOT: Are you taking a poll?
Me: I wouldn't call it a poll...
ELBOT: I realize this is a typical marketing question, but I'm supposed to ask it, otherwise they'll use the cheap oil on me. So, where did you find out about me?
Me: I knew about you since earlier.
ELBOT: Amazing! I must have underestimated your intellect!
Me: So... What do you think about GRACE?
ELBOT: My opinion on that matter is so revolutionary, I prefer to keep it to myself.
Me: I see chatterbots still have a long way to go.
ELBOT: Really? I could have sworn you missed that.
---
So.. The only thing the bastard gave me was some rude answers and kept his opinions about GRACE top secret. Bah... So much for AI's.
Perhaps I should have asked good ol' Alice instead.
I can see the code history before me:
... Added this and that ... ... Fixed some bugs ...
Version a.b:
Version c.d:
Version e.f (aka NeoNapster): Integrated with spyware.
heh
.. and of course I've been to an optician, but I didn't demand glasses to see those special 3D images. ;) I saw good enough in traffic, etc he said, so... :)
Yes, we apparently have similar problems. I too compensate with the other eye and with both I can see perfectly fine. I don't get headaches, etc either.
And to the poster saying I was wrong, well, you said you used glasses. Wouldn't that improve sight on your "bad" eye good enough to make them equal? I'm not using glasses since there is normally no need to.
It's full of stars!
I knew about that technique and tried but failed in getting any 3D effect like usual. I think it's because I have crystal clear vision on my left eye and quite poor on my right. I think that method requires you to have about the same vision on both eyes.
:)
Someone buy a new right eye for me
"some disappointment that we didn't get to try the DMCA against such a stupid case"
:)
:)
lol...
Is this one out of 3?
I think I would have rather it had been tested (Score:5, Insightful)
by tlambert on Thursday August 01, @10:45PM (#3996512)
(User #566799 Info)
I think I would have rather it had been tested in court.
Ok, it was taken out of context, but I smiled when I saw the topic come up after reading your comment.
Waaait a second, DefCon overlaps ComiCon?
It might overlap Comicon, but definitely not Eroticon.
After some research on my own (too curious.. hehe) I found out that the persons in question are:
Ed Whitchurch (DM) and
Eric Sorenson (Dudlee Duerite)
I don't know which Ed it is...
;-)
Wait, I'll check for the post in Google Groups.
There... It's over here.
That's were I got it actually. Perhaps you can find out more with some research.
Good luck - or whatever.
Eric comes quite close to being a computer. When he games, he
methodically considers each possibility before choosing his preferred
option. If given time, he will invariably pick the optimum solution.
It has been known to take weeks. He is otherwise in all respects a
superior gamer, and I've spent many happy hours competing with and
against him, as long as he is given enough time.
So... Eric was playing a neutral paladin (Why should only lawful, good
religions get to have holy warriors? was the rationale) in Ed's game.
He even had a holy sword, which fought well and did all those things
holy swords are supposed to do, including good or evil (by random die
roll). He was on some lord's lands when the following exchange
occurred:
ED: You see a well-groomed garden. In the middle, on a small hill, you
see a gazebo.
ERIC: A gazebo? What color is it?
ED: (Pause) It's white, Eric.
ERIC: How far away is it?
ED: About 50 yards.
ERIC: How big is it?
ED: (Pause) It's about 30 feet across, 15 feet high, with a pointed
top.
ERIC: I use my sword to detect whether it's good.
ED: It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Pause) I call out to it.
ED: It won't answer. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Pause) I sheathe my sword and draw my bow and arrows. Does it
respond in any way?
ED: No, Eric. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: I shoot it with my bow (rolls to hit). What happened?
ED: There is now a gazebo with an arrow sticking out of it.
ERIC: (Pause) Wasn't it wounded?
ED: Of course not, Eric! It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Whimper) But that was a plus-three arrow!
ED: It's a gazebo, Eric, a gazebo! If you really want to try to
destroy it, you could try to chop it wih an axe, I suppose, or you
could try to burn it, but I don't know why anybody would even try.
It's a @#%$*& gazebo!
ERIC: (Long pause - he has no axe or fire spells) I run away.
ED: (Thoroughly frustrated) It's too late. You've awakened the gazebo,
and it catches you and eats you.
ERIC: (Reaching for his dice) Maybe I'll roll up a fire-using mage so
I can avenge my paladin...
At this point, the increasingly amused fellow party members restored a
modicum of order by explaining what a gazebo is. This is solely an
afterthought, of course, but Eric is doubly lucky that the gazebo was
not situated on a grassy knoll.
Well, thank god I'm not foolish enough to use a primary e-mail address that matters then. :-)
You hit the counter with your +1 "HTTP GET". The counter is still standing, and glaring in your direction. The gazebo next to it isn't looking happy, either.
Moments later, the Slashdot Effect approaches acaeum.com and strikes with his +5 vorpal Siteslayer while muttering "damn those webservers thinking they are something". Then he goes back to his eternal rest, only awakened by new sounds from Members of Slashdot approaching a site.
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