So that'll be the solution then, have Linus et al peer review all OSS code and problem solved?
Just how much code do you think Linus is actually involved with? Really now. Last I checked, him especially, and most of the rest of the crew you mention, live and breath in kernal land. Think they've been over the code in every module out there? Think they know the code for Open Office inside and out? Come now.
Bottom line, if security is _that_ important, the code will be written and maintained IN HOUSE. Period. There is just NO viable alternative to this that is as secure, and even at that level (which is how this kind of thing is done NOW), there are usually many people working on any given coding project, broken into little bitty units that aren't useful on their own, and implemented in parallel by multiple developers so that cross-checking etc can be done to reduce the possibility of a mole actually being able to do any kind of damage.
So, the bigger question is then deciding which projects it is acceptable to use OSS for, and which are not. I am quite sure I'll be modded into oblivion for saying this, but it is the blatant truth: OSS is NOT a silver bullet. It will NOT solve all of the worlds programming problems. And it is NOT appropriate for all situations.
I have to agree with you, but I'm not convinced that digital extremes has done this by design, or at least that is a somewhat new mentality for them. Remember when Unreal came out? That game sold a LOT of first-gen 3D cards, because it NEEDED IT. It was a beast of a game in all ways at the time, really required bleeding edge hardware.
Remember when Halflife came out shortly thereafter? It really doesn't get the credit it deserves in this area, totally playable fps that didn't look half bad - in software mode!
Back to Digital Extremes though, I feel too that they're making the right decisions in this area. Make the core game work, and work well, on standard hardware. THEN add optional eye candy out the wazoo. I never play Quake3 anymore, but I still play all sorts of UT(varions flavours). I was quite pissed when Quake3 came out, requiring even beefier hardware than the beta had for chrissakes, and what did it add to the game? Personal opinion totally, but f*^# all as far as I'm concerned. All those extra hardware requirements so you could play the same game as always, but looking like a cartoon.
Something to be learned here, some will, and some won't.
No, but he was most certainly hooked on it, and he'd be the first to say so. That was one of his biggest anti-drug-law arguments: That the government created LSD, got him hooked on it and then made it illegal. Man, there's whole books written on this subject, so lets not be so damning about which facts are 'straight'.
Remember, we may like black and white, but everything is really a shade of gray.
Maybe if "the artists" actually kept the rights to their own music they could possibly have some say over this. For the most part, this is not the case. To be a main stream artist on a major label requires selling ones soul, and of course giving up pretty much all rights to ones own work. Thus, if the artist gives up all rights to the label, of course they won't have any say in what's done with their work.
Artists have choices too, and unfortunately choosing to make lots of money usually goes hand in hand with giving all of your work away. It doesn't have to be this way, and most of the artists I love and support don't take this road.
Can you explain exactly what the point of MetaData is?
If you can figure that out, I think you'll be able to extrapolate that to XML.
And if you really need an example, take this page you're viewing right now, copy the source to a text editor, remove all tags, save and load in your browser.
Yeah, I know, almost guaranteed to be trolling but ah well, maybe they're not.
Not to mention the article stating that it's best to use Oracle specific drivers (OK, they said DB specific, but with a pretty major Oracle slant) from PHP or ASP.NET, and then try to explain why to convince you that you WANT your web app tied down to oracle.
Sure, in the rarest of cases you really want to use some DB providers proprietary features, WHERE REQUIRED. And even then, you abstract it so there is no impact on your front end if this needs to change in the future.
This whole article was slanted around an Oracle lock-in and is total complete FUD.
Damned, they even insinuate that you not only should, but MUST use vendor-specific drivers to access databases from ASP.NET. MS doesn't even go this far for chrissakes!
I guess I must apologise for defending my use of ogg, or rather, defending attacks against my use of ogg. You're right, I'll go convert my entire 50GB library of music to MP3 right away so as to avoid this unfortunate situation in the future.
Easier to mod as a troll than to have an actual conversation I know, but I much prefer the meaningful conversation.
Nice randomly inflated guess at a possible price point for implementing ogg support. Unlike all of the other proprietary formats, there are no royalties to be paid to vorbis just to support ogg, and thus the cost would be a one-time development of an implementation that would run on the iPod. And, if I'm not mistaken there is already an implementation somewhere on vorbis' site for ARM processors.
I would think you would have picked up on the fact that this thread was discussing the fact that it doesn't support ogg, which is a problem for those of us that use ogg exclusively.
We already know that it works with MP3 and that the DRM isn't that big a deal so quit beating a dead horse.
STFU Troll, you as a linux user (or osx) are getting a good deal hear and you know it. Anyone that buys the boxed game, which is required to play the game on ANY platform, gives you access to play it on ANY platform they release binaries for in the future. This would include linux and OSX binaries apparantly in the VERY near future.
Do NOT turn this into yet another "poor us linux users abused again" argument, especially whey you're targeting it at one of the very few game companies that even give a flying fuck about linux.
You should be happy for chrissakes that you a) will even be able to play it on linux and b) that should you for some reason want to install it on both linux and windows (to prove how much better it is on linux of course, or whatever floats your boat) WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT TWICE!
I know, I'm feeding the troll but I couldn't let that crap go without saying _something_.
Yes, it does. I was just trying to show that the answer is not always spend more. The correct decision in any case is determined by a number of factors. Given a tight budget and the fact that I am an amateur, I'd be silly to just spend the most on everything to end up with a sub 20lb bike, though it would certainly be nice.
Personally, in regards to my forks, I actually quite like my RST 381 shocks. Very solid, fully serviceable, quite simple. I would have to spend a LOT more money to get something better (quality) and lighter. My personal decision in this case is that it's not worth the money for me at this point. Doesn't mean it's not right for anyone else though.
BTW, Diore does not by any means guarantee quality, I've had some kraptastic diore components in my day.
Technical uphill is where a soft-tail does indeed have great benefit. Since I'm an XC rider though, I have to balance across all types of terrain and in my personal experience overall the hardtail wins still. Though there are some nice, albeit expensive, full suspension systems out there I would like to try in the future that may sway me eventually;)
Yeah, I have thought of a lockout soft tail, but it'd have to be a light bike to compensate, and there's the expense. I probably will some day though. I've been quite interested in systems like the i-Drive from GT. I haven't ridden one yet, but the newer model ones have simplified quite significantly and are supposed to do a very good job at reducing loss of power through the shocks.
FYI, SRAM has a new toggle-switch shifter for their 1:1 ratio shifting systems. I hate, really really hate with a passion, grip shifters. but sram makes a mean derailer and the new system looks slick!
Now, one of the great "innovations" that is annoying is 9 speed drivetrains. 8 was fine (and arguably 7 before that). At least SRAM gear doesn't ghost on it though. I'll never go back to shimano after losing all of my gearing at a race earlier this year.
Oh do I hear that! All of my stock drivetrain, mid range shimano, gone, blown to crap, always at the worst time. (I can fix a chain on the trail in a minute or so, only from experience under pressure, really wish I didn't need that skill;) I replaced it all with race face/sram setup, no more problems!
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So that'll be the solution then, have Linus et al peer review all OSS code and problem solved?
Just how much code do you think Linus is actually involved with? Really now. Last I checked, him especially, and most of the rest of the crew you mention, live and breath in kernal land. Think they've been over the code in every module out there? Think they know the code for Open Office inside and out? Come now.
Bottom line, if security is _that_ important, the code will be written and maintained IN HOUSE. Period. There is just NO viable alternative to this that is as secure, and even at that level (which is how this kind of thing is done NOW), there are usually many people working on any given coding project, broken into little bitty units that aren't useful on their own, and implemented in parallel by multiple developers so that cross-checking etc can be done to reduce the possibility of a mole actually being able to do any kind of damage.
So, the bigger question is then deciding which projects it is acceptable to use OSS for, and which are not. I am quite sure I'll be modded into oblivion for saying this, but it is the blatant truth: OSS is NOT a silver bullet. It will NOT solve all of the worlds programming problems. And it is NOT appropriate for all situations.
No actually, that is not what he was telling you. Me thinks you replied to the wrong post.
I have to agree with you, but I'm not convinced that digital extremes has done this by design, or at least that is a somewhat new mentality for them. Remember when Unreal came out? That game sold a LOT of first-gen 3D cards, because it NEEDED IT. It was a beast of a game in all ways at the time, really required bleeding edge hardware.
Remember when Halflife came out shortly thereafter?
It really doesn't get the credit it deserves in this area, totally playable fps that didn't look half bad - in software mode!
Back to Digital Extremes though, I feel too that they're making the right decisions in this area. Make the core game work, and work well, on standard hardware. THEN add optional eye candy out the wazoo. I never play Quake3 anymore, but I still play all sorts of UT(varions flavours). I was quite pissed when Quake3 came out, requiring even beefier hardware than the beta had for chrissakes, and what did it add to the game? Personal opinion totally, but f*^# all as far as I'm concerned. All those extra hardware requirements so you could play the same game as always, but looking like a cartoon.
Something to be learned here, some will, and some won't.
No, but he was most certainly hooked on it, and he'd be the first to say so. That was one of his biggest anti-drug-law arguments: That the government created LSD, got him hooked on it and then made it illegal. Man, there's whole books written on this subject, so lets not be so damning about which facts are 'straight'.
Remember, we may like black and white, but everything is really a shade of gray.
Maybe if "the artists" actually kept the rights to their own music they could possibly have some say over this. For the most part, this is not the case. To be a main stream artist on a major label requires selling ones soul, and of course giving up pretty much all rights to ones own work. Thus, if the artist gives up all rights to the label, of course they won't have any say in what's done with their work.
Artists have choices too, and unfortunately choosing to make lots of money usually goes hand in hand with giving all of your work away. It doesn't have to be this way, and most of the artists I love and support don't take this road.
Can you explain exactly what the point of MetaData is?
If you can figure that out, I think you'll be able to extrapolate that to XML.
And if you really need an example, take this page you're viewing right now, copy the source to a text editor, remove all tags, save and load in your browser.
Yeah, I know, almost guaranteed to be trolling but ah well, maybe they're not.
Not sure what fps games you're playing, but all the ones I've played have god mode built in already ;)
You have 4000 or so songs purchased off of iTMS?
You've dropped like $4g in the past year or so on proprietary format music files?
Wow. That's really all I can say is wow.
Not to mention the article stating that it's best to use Oracle specific drivers (OK, they said DB specific, but with a pretty major Oracle slant) from PHP or ASP.NET, and then try to explain why to convince you that you WANT your web app tied down to oracle.
Sure, in the rarest of cases you really want to use some DB providers proprietary features, WHERE REQUIRED. And even then, you abstract it so there is no impact on your front end if this needs to change in the future.
This whole article was slanted around an Oracle lock-in and is total complete FUD.
Damned, they even insinuate that you not only should, but MUST use vendor-specific drivers to access databases from ASP.NET. MS doesn't even go this far for chrissakes!
Sure, but not all web sites/applications are simply lists of porn links ;)
On a more serious note, it's all about the right tool for the job. No, there is no silver bullet.
Apparently my post hit a nerve.
I guess I must apologise for defending my use of ogg, or rather, defending attacks against my use of ogg. You're right, I'll go convert my entire 50GB library of music to MP3 right away so as to avoid this unfortunate situation in the future.
Easier to mod as a troll than to have an actual conversation I know, but I much prefer the meaningful conversation.
Wow, +5 insightful for what? Being a conformist? Being a sheep?
/., almost forgot.
So because you have no need for ogg support, and neither do a lot of people, that totally negates anyone elses needs for ogg support?
Right, this would be
Let me put this another way that might interest you:
Fuck linux support because most people use windows anyways.
There, you like that? Sounds pretty fucking stupid, especially around here right?
Now I've gotta go check on my siberian tigers out back, hope I don't trip on one.
PS: When was the last time you bought a cake WITHOUT icing? Right. I'll buy an iPod when it's already iced thanks.
Nice randomly inflated guess at a possible price point for implementing ogg support. Unlike all of the other proprietary formats, there are no royalties to be paid to vorbis just to support ogg, and thus the cost would be a one-time development of an implementation that would run on the iPod. And, if I'm not mistaken there is already an implementation somewhere on vorbis' site for ARM processors.
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about so please stop now.
I would think you would have picked up on the fact that this thread was discussing the fact that it doesn't support ogg, which is a problem for those of us that use ogg exclusively.
We already know that it works with MP3 and that the DRM isn't that big a deal so quit beating a dead horse.
Don't worry, you aren't invited anyways, just your jobs ;)
That's what allows me to make legal copies of cd's that I own, or that I borrow from friends. I don't complain.
No, not even a little bit.
Really man, how dumb would you have to be to accept such an offer for an interview? Dude got his just due to greed.
Simple really, move along.
STFU Troll, you as a linux user (or osx) are getting a good deal hear and you know it. Anyone that buys the boxed game, which is required to play the game on ANY platform, gives you access to play it on ANY platform they release binaries for in the future. This would include linux and OSX binaries apparantly in the VERY near future.
Do NOT turn this into yet another "poor us linux users abused again" argument, especially whey you're targeting it at one of the very few game companies that even give a flying fuck about linux.
You should be happy for chrissakes that you a) will even be able to play it on linux and b) that should you for some reason want to install it on both linux and windows (to prove how much better it is on linux of course, or whatever floats your boat) WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT TWICE!
I know, I'm feeding the troll but I couldn't let that crap go without saying _something_.
Yes, it does. I was just trying to show that the answer is not always spend more. The correct decision in any case is determined by a number of factors. Given a tight budget and the fact that I am an amateur, I'd be silly to just spend the most on everything to end up with a sub 20lb bike, though it would certainly be nice.
Personally, in regards to my forks, I actually quite like my RST 381 shocks. Very solid, fully serviceable, quite simple. I would have to spend a LOT more money to get something better (quality) and lighter. My personal decision in this case is that it's not worth the money for me at this point. Doesn't mean it's not right for anyone else though.
BTW, Diore does not by any means guarantee quality, I've had some kraptastic diore components in my day.
Technical uphill is where a soft-tail does indeed have great benefit. Since I'm an XC rider though, I have to balance across all types of terrain and in my personal experience overall the hardtail wins still. Though there are some nice, albeit expensive, full suspension systems out there I would like to try in the future that may sway me eventually ;)
Yeah, I have thought of a lockout soft tail, but it'd have to be a light bike to compensate, and there's the expense. I probably will some day though. I've been quite interested in systems like the i-Drive from GT. I haven't ridden one yet, but the newer model ones have simplified quite significantly and are supposed to do a very good job at reducing loss of power through the shocks.
Gotta love the bike shops.
I get the same thing for something as simple as using presta valve tires on my xc bike, they think I'm on crack.
FYI, SRAM has a new toggle-switch shifter for their 1:1 ratio shifting systems. I hate, really really hate with a passion, grip shifters. but sram makes a mean derailer and the new system looks slick!
Oh do I hear that! All of my stock drivetrain, mid range shimano, gone, blown to crap, always at the worst time. (I can fix a chain on the trail in a minute or so, only from experience under pressure, really wish I didn't need that skill
I replaced it all with race face/sram setup, no more problems!