I'd still argue that the vast majority of these mis-features shouldn't exist *at all*. Each of those additional features means more code bloat, more places for bugs to turn up, greater complexity for porting, etc. Are those tiny little options REALLY worth all that? They seem cool, but their overall "cost" to the project becomes overwhelming. There's a zillion different configurable options in Sawfish, but most of them shouldn't exist - a sane default should just be decided on, and the vast majority of people will breathe a sigh of relief.
Mind you, this is why Free OS's are so cool - if you decide you just can't live without changing some tiny aspect of your WM's behavior, you're perfectly free to run/write a WM that allows you to change that particular behavior!
HA! Two *serious* reasons why Sawfish doesn't really "work nicely":
1) I won't link directly, because in this case, it's a Bad Thing(TM), but go check Bugzilla for Sawfish... it's a nasty sight.
2) Ever looked at the configuration dialogs for that beast!? They're INSANE. Let me give you an example. This is an actual preference in Sawfish: "Offset (%) from left window edge when warping pointer" Pardon my shouting, but WHO THE FSCK WANTS TO CONFIGURE THAT?! What's so wrong about just setting a sane default and leaving it at that? (ie: the way Metacity does it)
That said, for day to day use, Sawfish is ok, but it's got huge issues and it needs to *go*. While it'll throw things into some turmoil, I have to admit I'm pretty happy that Sun made this decision.
Yeah, I'm grinnin' ear to ear as well. While I don't think it was RIAA that created this, I found this part f*cking brilliant:
Congratulations on your free copy of photoshop (which is alright because you wouldn't have bought it), Windows XP (which is alright, because Microsoft is evil), the new Dave Matthews Band CD (which is alright, because the RIAA is evil), and that DivX of episode 2 (which is alright, because the MPAA is evil).
I agree with you on the "Open source would not solve this problem" bit... Sometimes I wonder if the editors put up that kind of stuff just to laugh at it.
The mozilla jab is low, though. Yeah, it's been a while, but it's a damn fine result. Besides, it was basically written from scratch, and the original netscape took just as long to get to where *it* was when they announced the founding of the mozilla project...
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Ah, yes, that is a stipulation - gotta run a UNIX. Oh, well. Maybe WINE will become mature enough in the future to allow you to leave Windows.:)
Heh... it's not likely to come from Sun, though, seeing as how they're moving to GNOME for their default desktop for Solaris 9. There were rumblings at one point, if I'm not mistaken, that OO.o may get ported to GTK2, which would be cool.
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If you've got a Palm, you're set to go then. OpenOffice.org/StarOffice + Evolution work very nicely together, and Evo's PIM support for the palm is quite nice.
Note that by giving something away that another company was selling, the agency would be actively shrinking the economy -- reducing the GNP by the cost of unsold software.
Oh my god, Bill & Co were RIGHT! Open Source WILL destroy the economy!
Orrr..... maybe the money that would have been spent on the thing being given will just go to something else, putting more cash flow into a difference sector.
Yeah, I'm usually pretty hardcore in my support of the GPL license, but that's because authors can *choose* that license. If a license were to be mandated for this kind of work, I think BSD really might be the best.
Space travel involves finite resources - finite amounts of time, materials, etc. However, once software is produced, the cost in distributing it is extremely small, and thus making it possible to give it back to the citizens who paid for it.
As James Gosling recently said: "OS X is like Linux, only with Q/A [Quality Assurance] and taste!".
Well, the QA thing is bullshit - Red Hat does some serious Q&A and torture testing of their releases. What interested me more was the other half of that....
TASTE?!
They overlooked the GNU toolchain and went BSD instead, and you're telling me it's got "taste"?;)
Scary, huh? It's made me always turn my cam towards the wall when I'm not using it.
Interesting solution...
Me, I just deleted my FAT32 partition and switched completely to Linux. Yeah, the FBI *could* try to slip some malicious code into the driver, but since it would found, they'd never do it - after all, they couldn't possibly deny it.;)
Me too, actually. I LOVE my SiS735-based board (the ECS one) but SiS is apparently getting back out of the Athlon biz for now - they're focusing on the P4, as their P4 chipsets are apparently incredibly popular. Oh well... maybe they'll make more of a splash in the AMD market when ClawHammer comes out.
I'm usually on the "left" of most arguments, but software is one area where the "market" should be allowed to make these decisions. If someone doesn't like a piece of software, go use something else! If anything, bad commercial software being allowed to exist only pushes FS/OSS software usage way up anyhow.:)
The only instance I'd be ok with this is in embedded systems for medical devices, etc, where if stuff doesn't work... people DIE. So in this case, the problems of intervention are definitely outweighed by the possible weight of what could happen if the gov't doesn't stand in. As it is, most embedded systems like this do have a good reputation (if they didn't, they'd cease to exist), but when actual lives are at stake, it's a different issue, so the added weight of punishment for negligence, etc, is acceptable.
Yeah, except for that whole "creates mind-bogglingly-toxic waste that is so utterly difficult to get rid of that all we can think of to do is just bury it for 100,000 years and beyond" thing.
Bring me fusion and THEN tell me about the wonders of nuclear power. Fission is DIRTY, LETHAL SHIT. Just because it produces no greenhouse gasses doesn't make it safe, jackass!
Agreed! And no restricting it to just namby-pamby cheesy looking cheap white shirts with flimsy looking text and a lame graphic - I want a QUALITY black shirt featuring that big, red "Commie" star on the front, with the lizard's head in the middle, and something simple on the back; maybe just "mozilla.org" in a kickass font or some such.
The world is riddled stupid looking cheap, white software promo t-shirts. Mozilla folks: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't do this. Charge the whole whopping $2-$3 you'll need to make it a NICE shirt.
Well almost anything is possible, it's just a matter of equipment and know-how. RCAs just can't be uncapped through the ethernet port, as it refuses to look for the file on anything but the cable interface.
If it was anything less than next-to-impossible, why wouldn't there be a hack utility out there for it? RCA's got huge market penetration, there's certainly incentive and a user base.
Besides, that's where MD5 "shared secret" comes in.:P
This vulnerability only exists in Surfboard modems. RCA, who has a HUGE market penetration, especially since they're cheaper, smaller, and better featured (for ISPs anyhow) than the competition, are *not* vulnerable to this, and can't be "uncapped."
I'm really surprised I haven't heard more about what other ISPs who have rolled out more Surfboards plan to ask *Motorola* about this. Couldn't they just turn off the damn ethernet port for the duration of the initialization sequence?
Kickass! There are at least one or two Mandrake hackers active on Nautilus HEAD, so hopefully these patches make it back upstream... that'd be *so* cool.
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I'd still argue that the vast majority of these mis-features shouldn't exist *at all*. Each of those additional features means more code bloat, more places for bugs to turn up, greater complexity for porting, etc. Are those tiny little options REALLY worth all that? They seem cool, but their overall "cost" to the project becomes overwhelming. There's a zillion different configurable options in Sawfish, but most of them shouldn't exist - a sane default should just be decided on, and the vast majority of people will breathe a sigh of relief.
Mind you, this is why Free OS's are so cool - if you decide you just can't live without changing some tiny aspect of your WM's behavior, you're perfectly free to run/write a WM that allows you to change that particular behavior!
from the sawfish-works-nicely-though dept.
HA! Two *serious* reasons why Sawfish doesn't really "work nicely":
1) I won't link directly, because in this case, it's a Bad Thing(TM), but go check Bugzilla for Sawfish... it's a nasty sight.
2) Ever looked at the configuration dialogs for that beast!? They're INSANE. Let me give you an example. This is an actual preference in Sawfish: "Offset (%) from left window edge when warping pointer" Pardon my shouting, but WHO THE FSCK WANTS TO CONFIGURE THAT?! What's so wrong about just setting a sane default and leaving it at that? (ie: the way Metacity does it)
That said, for day to day use, Sawfish is ok, but it's got huge issues and it needs to *go*. While it'll throw things into some turmoil, I have to admit I'm pretty happy that Sun made this decision.
grr. my Lameness Engine must be kicking in - i re-re-reread your post, and you obviously don't think that RIAA made the worm either.
happypollylogies all around.
Yeah, I'm grinnin' ear to ear as well. While I don't think it was RIAA that created this, I found this part f*cking brilliant:
Congratulations on your free copy of photoshop (which is alright because you wouldn't have bought it), Windows XP (which is alright, because Microsoft is evil), the new Dave Matthews Band CD (which is alright, because the RIAA is evil), and that DivX of episode 2 (which is alright, because the MPAA is evil).
Couldn't have said it better. *applause*
Well, for one thing, there are a lot of IDE updates and fixes going in for 2.4.19, which is why there are so many 19-pre* releases...
And as another poster has said, a backport of the *working* NTFS-NG driver!
F*** the BSA.
;)
*applause*
While "vulgar", I couldn't have said it better myself.
Doesn't have quite the same ring as Ice Cube's "Fuck tha Police" though.
I agree with you on the "Open source would not solve this problem" bit... Sometimes I wonder if the editors put up that kind of stuff just to laugh at it.
The mozilla jab is low, though. Yeah, it's been a while, but it's a damn fine result. Besides, it was basically written from scratch, and the original netscape took just as long to get to where *it* was when they announced the founding of the mozilla project...
Ah, yes, that is a stipulation - gotta run a UNIX. Oh, well. Maybe WINE will become mature enough in the future to allow you to leave Windows. :)
I'd love to see a KDE wrapper for SO/OO
Heh... it's not likely to come from Sun, though, seeing as how they're moving to GNOME for their default desktop for Solaris 9. There were rumblings at one point, if I'm not mistaken, that OO.o may get ported to GTK2, which would be cool.
If you've got a Palm, you're set to go then. OpenOffice.org/StarOffice + Evolution work very nicely together, and Evo's PIM support for the palm is quite nice.
Note that by giving something away that another company was selling, the agency would be actively shrinking the economy -- reducing the GNP by the cost of unsold software.
Oh my god, Bill & Co were RIGHT! Open Source WILL destroy the economy!
Orrr..... maybe the money that would have been spent on the thing being given will just go to something else, putting more cash flow into a difference sector.
Not a bad idea either.
While on the topic (sort of) - what's the difference between Public Domain and BSD license?
Yeah, I'm usually pretty hardcore in my support of the GPL license, but that's because authors can *choose* that license. If a license were to be mandated for this kind of work, I think BSD really might be the best.
That's apples and oranges.
Space travel involves finite resources - finite amounts of time, materials, etc. However, once software is produced, the cost in distributing it is extremely small, and thus making it possible to give it back to the citizens who paid for it.
Hey, we're paying for it so we should get to use it.
The only question for me is whether it needs to be GPL, LGPL, or BSD licensed.
As James Gosling recently said: "OS X is like Linux, only with Q/A [Quality Assurance] and taste!".
;)
Well, the QA thing is bullshit - Red Hat does some serious Q&A and torture testing of their releases. What interested me more was the other half of that....
TASTE?!
They overlooked the GNU toolchain and went BSD instead, and you're telling me it's got "taste"?
Scary, huh? It's made me always turn my cam towards the wall when I'm not using it.
Interesting solution...
Me, I just deleted my FAT32 partition and switched completely to Linux. Yeah, the FBI *could* try to slip some malicious code into the driver, but since it would found, they'd never do it - after all, they couldn't possibly deny it.
Me too, actually. I LOVE my SiS735-based board (the ECS one) but SiS is apparently getting back out of the Athlon biz for now - they're focusing on the P4, as their P4 chipsets are apparently incredibly popular. Oh well... maybe they'll make more of a splash in the AMD market when ClawHammer comes out.
gah... more proof that VIA is the fucking devil incarnate. If only Intel would make Athlon chipsets... ;)
I'm usually on the "left" of most arguments, but software is one area where the "market" should be allowed to make these decisions. If someone doesn't like a piece of software, go use something else! If anything, bad commercial software being allowed to exist only pushes FS/OSS software usage way up anyhow. :)
The only instance I'd be ok with this is in embedded systems for medical devices, etc, where if stuff doesn't work... people DIE. So in this case, the problems of intervention are definitely outweighed by the possible weight of what could happen if the gov't doesn't stand in. As it is, most embedded systems like this do have a good reputation (if they didn't, they'd cease to exist), but when actual lives are at stake, it's a different issue, so the added weight of punishment for negligence, etc, is acceptable.
Yeah, except for that whole "creates mind-bogglingly-toxic waste that is so utterly difficult to get rid of that all we can think of to do is just bury it for 100,000 years and beyond" thing.
Bring me fusion and THEN tell me about the wonders of nuclear power. Fission is DIRTY, LETHAL SHIT. Just because it produces no greenhouse gasses doesn't make it safe, jackass!
Agreed! And no restricting it to just namby-pamby cheesy looking cheap white shirts with flimsy looking text and a lame graphic - I want a QUALITY black shirt featuring that big, red "Commie" star on the front, with the lizard's head in the middle, and something simple on the back; maybe just "mozilla.org" in a kickass font or some such.
The world is riddled stupid looking cheap, white software promo t-shirts. Mozilla folks: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't do this. Charge the whole whopping $2-$3 you'll need to make it a NICE shirt.
Well almost anything is possible, it's just a matter of equipment and know-how. RCAs just can't be uncapped through the ethernet port, as it refuses to look for the file on anything but the cable interface.
:P
If it was anything less than next-to-impossible, why wouldn't there be a hack utility out there for it? RCA's got huge market penetration, there's certainly incentive and a user base.
Besides, that's where MD5 "shared secret" comes in.
(note: I work for a cable ISP)
This vulnerability only exists in Surfboard modems. RCA, who has a HUGE market penetration, especially since they're cheaper, smaller, and better featured (for ISPs anyhow) than the competition, are *not* vulnerable to this, and can't be "uncapped."
I'm really surprised I haven't heard more about what other ISPs who have rolled out more Surfboards plan to ask *Motorola* about this. Couldn't they just turn off the damn ethernet port for the duration of the initialization sequence?
Kickass! There are at least one or two Mandrake hackers active on Nautilus HEAD, so hopefully these patches make it back upstream... that'd be *so* cool.