...but AOL is pretty big and might be able to grab even MS employees.
Hell, AOL has the cash to throw around to clone him if they got a piece of that lovely hair.
I can see how he says he would be insulted, in a way, but is it for the right reasons?
Do you really think that AOL would fire the whole staff and replace them with monkeys? No, they would keep most everyone and not touch the company until they've watched in action for a while. It's not like they are buying a cable network.
Is he just going to quit because AOL is 'lame'? IMHO, that is a silly reason. I mean, that is a big thing to do in your life because you are 'too cool'.
This is just the first thing I thought when I read this.
Is this a record for smallest story on slashdot? He only has one sentence, yet it will the most replies ever
I just downloaded Morpheus this morning because a major HD crash pushed Kazaa off with the rest of my data.
Now I read on that site in the RIAA letter that they [RIAA] is teaming up with the Fast Track team [MC&Kazaa].
Not good for me since my registered name on Morpheus is: IH8URIAA.
I must also report that about 30 mins ago I wasn't getting files [segments] from Kazaa users, but now I'm doing that and also getting great speeds.
I'm going to gnutella [mainstream] if Limewire puts a tad more work into their program. It's great now, and so is gnutella in general. But it doesn't have the 'juice' like Fast Track does. I know I will get flamed for this.
I used that article as a source for a paper I wrote in the 11th grade. The teacher was a boozer, she hated me, and hated my mom when she had her.
I got an A though. I had to read my paper "Who should hold the keys to encryption" in front of the class, and a bunch of college prep kids all looked at me with a stale look.
This was about the same time that there was a big push for gov't storage of private keys, like an escrow service. Of course my paper was against this.
Linux is friendly, if you can read. Slackware may not be, but Red Hat and Mandrake are.
Yes, I know what an API is. My best friend is a MCSE eng, and a full time programmer. Trust me he is smart. He also is a Windows lover, but hates creating programs for it because in his words: "the API system is like a net, it all connects, has huge holes, and all those connections don't touch the things they need to." He _is_ a MS zealot though.
Again though: My point about AOL [!] is that they could get marketshare, and by your own words, driver support would show up. There are a lot of companies that support hardware just because enough people complained. These aren't even a fraction of that ".25%". How do you think linux boots, runs and plays music [video etc]? By a miracle? Do you think EVERY driver was written by Linus and Alan?
... but still, there are plenty of hardware companies that actually have stayed in business. Some were around before windows or linux.
But still, more and more, you are seeing "tested with linux" or "works with linux" on boxes. These are companies that have been around for a long time too.
Let's not forget that nVidia releases drivers for linux, themselves. Some complain that the drivers aren't opened, but at least they have done all the work and not made some other people do it for them.
To make a long story short: XP and USB doesn't get along for me.
Tried to move the XP partition to the end, and then install '98 [don't worry, I use linux on my other PC... my GF won't give up RA2, and this machine has software based hardware]
I had the PM 7.0 'rescue' disks; but because of the software that I used to format the drive [about 1.5 yrs ago] I couldn't use them... some crap that came with my HD. EZ-bios or some sort of thing.
I since reformatted loosing so much. But I gained disk space! lol
Don't worry though, most of my mp3's are backed up on CD [about 40-50 CDs], as well as most things. The thing that really gets me is my Webshots stuff. I loved that program and had so much 'custom' pictures on it. I need to hunt down that lego porn...
First thing he does when he gets to the island is set up his laptop and start trading coffee beans [which is funny that he is trading in NY when the coffee is harvested only miles to the south].
This sort of thing would help a lot if let's say, you were the president of Enron and you wanted to be out of the country when you bail on the stock. You don't want to play Quake over this, but trading stock would be nice. Pick a few quotes, and just have those streamed. Then you've got that huge uplink to make sure your purchases get sent.
Don't say that 300 baud [d/l] isn't fast enough to get quotes. My ***** has an old computer he _has_ to use to get quotes for work and the modem is 300 baud. Slow enough to make a present calculator able to break the encryption in real time.
I guess it would also be nice if you are hosting warez and want to stay on the run. Are we going to start seeing mobile pr0n sites from the jungle?
I understand what they are saying. They had the kernel. They took the ideas in it, an rewrote it.
But rewritten from scratch isn't correct. It's rewritten. It's written from scratch. Which is it?
No seriously, which is it? Did they actually rewrite it? Or did they completely start from a blank sheet and name the new kernel after the old one?
Either way, I'd like to try this. I ran the 'OS on a disk' version a few years ago and loved it. Of course I could nit-pick there too. OS on a disk? I hope so if it's an embedded OS, because a hard drive would defeat the purpose.
Is the reason for high cost access in AU because of the fact that it's basically an island, or is it because the service has to reach into areas that aren't so populated?
I know to AU's that may seem so stupid, but which is it? Could satellite access [on the ISP end] solve this problem?
Forgive me for my ignorance. It makes sense that they charge their users so much if there is a cable from Asia/Indo-China or Hawaii going to AU, but other than that... it doesn't make sense at all.
I know they can't 0wn the source code. But by owning Red Hat they DO have an incentive when it comes to modifying said source.
Red Hat does make linux friendly, just as other distros. Have you made your system by scratch? And have you installed Red Hat or Mandrake? These two make it waaaaaay easier than doing it by hand. I guess that RPM is an example of Red Hat sitting on thier asses not doing a thing?
It isn't a bitch to maintain, unless you are a fucking moron. This is the point we've come to. Seperating the morons from the regular people.
Ok, you are a MS fanboy. I guess you can't understand that if they're was another major player in town that hardware vendors would notice.
You have showed me how much of a fucking moron you are. At one point, hardware vendors were more in-tuned to what 'AOLites' wanted than other users.
Linux drivers would cost no more than windows drivers. Considering that linux drivers could be written in a standard language, compared to windows' use of API's and what not which confuse even the most talented developers.
Get your head out of your ass, and realize that if AOL did market RHat, that they would give Windows a run for it's money. Also don't forget that you have no clue what AOL users want or need.
Hardware vendors also will not give a fuck. They make shit margins on their products.
Sure, that is why they NEVER come out with new products. Come on, why do you think they stay in business for so long. Nvidia is an example. They never have new products every six months because they can't make cash on them... what a fucking idiot!
You mean other than supporting all of the peripherals you might want to buy, or running the other 99% of the software out there that isn't available for linux?
I said no counting if MS did dirty shit to get to where they are now. Sure Windows has a lot, but not all, of the hardware supported under the sun. That is because of restrictive agreements by them, not because people like them so much. You also are mistaken when it comes to software. MS doesn't have more software under their belt than the linux community. You must be thinking MS Office, which of course will never be supported by linux. Sorry. Linux has more software available for it than Windows... face it. PS: when my USB devices fail, MS doesn't do shit to support them, they tell me to buy a PCI USB card. That is against their ads which portray them as supporting all the hardware available.
Let me tell you a little clue about 24 hour news networks - unless there is a crisis going on, they are by no means "rolling in it". Prior to 9/11, CNN was bleeding money, badly. Once things settle down, they will go back to bleeding money. Don't believe me - check AOL/TW financials.
I guess that is why CNN has TWO 24 hour news channels? You dumb piece of shit, people like being able to turn on a channel and catching the news.
Regardless, you missed my whole point. I won't type it again because you can't read.
lol.... I don't think that Clinton asked to send people to Somalia. It was Bush.
Just like Waco, people act as if Clinton was the one to blame. Both conflicts were started under Bush. Please remember that.
Also try to remember that this fight wasn't our own. Clinton was smart by not sending in more troops than necessary. Most Americans don't want to fight for others. That is just how it is.
In fact, Aidid should have had his butt kicked. He was someone who raped his own people for power. Clinton knew that furthering this war would have made him look bad. The Rangers didn't want more, they wanted out.
Clinton did the right thing by not going on with a Bush era war that would have made their oil hungry family rich.
Linux + four years development and application support = Windows
Netscape + 80% market share lost = IE
WMP isn't Winamp because Winamp does not own its protocol, and like it or lump it, WMA is taking off.
MSN is still inferior to AOL, you're right there.
As for MSNBS and CNN, neither makes money, so who cares.
Development? Into what? A bloated, unstable, insecure piece of crap? What does Windows do that Linux can't? Nothing. No fair counting dirty shit M$ has done to make everything their own. Destroying small companies and restrictive signing contracts is what made Windows big, not development.
Netscape did loose 80% of their market share. I guess someone could argue that was because of a little problem with IE not going away, but I won't. As with other programs, high market share doesn't meant that it's the best thing under the sun.
WMA is taking off? Gee, I wonder why? Is it because it is now part of the OS? Next you are going to say MSN's AIM clone is taking off. It is also part of the OS as well. Winamp could have it's own FORMAT, but that would be silly since people don't want proprietary shit when it comes to media. When is the last time you encoded a CD in real audio? Why do we want to have 100 apps for all the types of media we have? Or will it be one app, WMP?
I never used MSN [ok, once in '96] or AOL [ok, once in '94]... I hear they both suck.
MSNBC and CNN are rolling in it. Plus, it's a media outlet... the first thing taken out in war is these two channels. [fox news can stay on because it's so fucking backwards, i mean 'centered']
I think you missed the point. These products are no where close to being equal. But my point was to show that these two can go head to head.
About the source code... [argh, and some bad words !!!!]
Sure, they have had it. You could to, but what stops you from working with it? Your fanboy ass can't capitalize on it. If AOL buys RHat, they either would need to bury it or work on it.
THAT IS WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM WORK ON THE SOURCE! IT WOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST! IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND. I can't believe I've resorted in typing in all caps.
By saying "they have the source code" like it is some super secret just makes you look like a fucking moron.
Because I was wrong? No. They do... right now. You could have it to. The difference is they can get 'dollars out of consumers wallets' if they own Red Hat. Ergo, they will do something with that source that is available.
Red Hat takes a bunch of software other people wrote that they don't own the rights to (yet are allowed to do this because of the license) and package it behind a cute and cudly installation program and call it Red Hat. With GPL code,...
They do have a right to modify the source. They can't call it their own however. But if someone else does all the work, and then you make it work together, that is doing something! You fucking moron. Sure, it would be easy if someone wrote the whole thing for them, they slapped on a few PNG's of a guy with a hat and put it in a box... but there is a tad more than that. If you haven't noticed, RHat has done some work of their own.
If AOL did buy Red Hat they wouldn't by some magical means get a bunch of drivers written for shit.
Yes they would. That is my point. A lot of hardware vendors would perk up and notice that the game is on. If they couldn't get anywhere, it just goes to prove the monopoly idea. M$ ownes the market on x86, from software to computer mice. Not only is that illegal, but it's plain wrong. If you weren't a fanboy you would notice that.
Do you think them buying the rights to a Linux distributor is somehow going to make them cool dudes and not be out for every fucking dollar in the world?
LOL! It's not about kewl dudes. I could care less either way. It's about the fact that I like linux, and I don't like windows. Sorry, but I don't. Try to wrap your fucking mind around the fact that it isn't the best product to hit the market. Neither is linux, shit, nothing is. But if this gets some work put into linux... I don't care who owns Red Hat. I could always go to, well, any other distro in town.
50%? I won't even check that number, but that is about 137 million people, in the USA alone.
AOL has the marketing power, they have channels to advertise on. They've got magazines to advertise in. They've got a forum, they own the forum. Because they bought Time Warner! Bought.
Next time you see a commercial with linux, it might not be an IBM commercial. It may welcome you into the fuzzy warm world of linux.
Wow! Because of this donation to the Perl guys and gals, my check is in the mail.
I use DynDNS, and have been thinking about sending them *something*. I don't have much, but to see them donate a little something in return is nice. Any donation is cheaper than getting a 'real' domain name. Plus *.ath.cx is kinda cool, I wonder if goatse.ath.cx is available?
I just hope all these donations don't go to stuff like strippers. I could be spending my money on that.
Actually, that's not a really accurate statement. The people in Ohio were complaining because the runways run north-south and the air traffic was routed directly over their houses at low altitude in the late hours of the night. And, large portions of that area aren't "rich" as you put it - I believe the area is mostly lower-middle-class, and they had a real noise complaint.
No, they aren't lower-middle class. The people are upper-middle if not upper class. Lower class people rarely get their compliants on TV because they don't have the 'juice' to do so.
The were complaining because they paid 70,000+ for their homes. They couldn't understand why they didn't go over the cheaper neighborhoods. It wasn't the whole city complaining, it was one specific neighborhood.
I really don't know what they were complaining about. I live a few miles to the east of them. While I'm on the westside of 'nati still. The traffic used to go over our neighborhood, and it wasn't a problem. Sometimes if you talked on your portable phone outside you would get drowned out by engine noise, but that was it.
It was the west siders who complained... not the eastsiders. Eastsiders, mainly, are way richer than the w'siders.
With major news magazines and cable channels under their control they can squash anyone in there way.
Yes, clueless AOL users still use the web, but they won't switch from AOL. For some AOL is great because it's so easy. Can they make linux that easy? Yes. Because they have the source code.
The only bad thing I can see coming out of this is Microsoft Apps for linux. Closed, of course, but IE 7.0?
I kinda support this, because if AOL gets into the linux game device drivers will suddenly pop-up out of no where. I don't think they will be writing them, or the Rhat team. But a bunch of closed source drivers will show up for things we never seen before. Winmodems? First time an AOL/Linux/GNU/TW user says his modem won't work, AOL will step up their power and get him a driver.
I think RHat would be left to do it's own thing, but it will have it's bigger brother AOL/TW to get the tough shit done.
I just hope someone watches the source code.
As far as AOL depending on MS... I don't think so. Every AOL/TW daughter company has a product to kill MS.
Windows = Linux
IE = Netscape
Windows Media Player = Winamp [no video, yet]
MSN = AOL
MSNBC = CNN
What else? These are going to be two heavyweights battling it out. Hopefully AOL wins. Yes, they are lame, but they will still have linux! [zealot? me? yes!]
It's about being practical though. The equipment isn't there to monitor every telephone line and also do voice recognition on all those lines. Do you know how many times I use the phone in one day? So many people use the phone lines, so often... it's impossible.
Really doesn't have to much to do with computers. The phone lines are limited enough.
I think they could be watching every keystroke that comes off my fingers... that is different.
In a way computers could be to the NSA what Goebbels was to the NAZI party.
I already know you are anti-left from previous posts.
The thing is though... look at our history. We started as a right-wing gov't in all respects, but we are becoming more centralized, if not sliding to the left.
I think it's important to have both, but a careful balance of the two.
As far as Communism not working on the 'large scale'... people say the same stuff about capitalism.
I think we could become 'communists' but only through a slow, very slow, transition. We wouldn't even see it happening.
See, it's not a hard wired as you think. There is still a part that makes people want to put on the same level. It's the upper class who doesn't want to go down to a lower class. If by some way we could eliminate the lower classes then we could become 'equals'. Who is the great thinkers/leaders? Jesus, Ghandi, Marx? All people who advocate at least equal treatment.
I don't believe that we will some day become people with no possesions, that isn't a choice. But something will prevail that will look a lot like communism.
The problem with 'basic, evolution-wired' desires is that... you got it! It can evolve right away.
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...but AOL is pretty big and might be able to grab even MS employees.
Hell, AOL has the cash to throw around to clone him if they got a piece of that lovely hair.
I can see how he says he would be insulted, in a way, but is it for the right reasons?
Do you really think that AOL would fire the whole staff and replace them with monkeys? No, they would keep most everyone and not touch the company until they've watched in action for a while. It's not like they are buying a cable network.
Is he just going to quit because AOL is 'lame'? IMHO, that is a silly reason. I mean, that is a big thing to do in your life because you are 'too cool'.
This is just the first thing I thought when I read this.
Is this a record for smallest story on slashdot? He only has one sentence, yet it will the most replies ever
I just downloaded Morpheus this morning because a major HD crash pushed Kazaa off with the rest of my data.
Now I read on that site in the RIAA letter that they [RIAA] is teaming up with the Fast Track team [MC&Kazaa].
Not good for me since my registered name on Morpheus is: IH8URIAA.
I must also report that about 30 mins ago I wasn't getting files [segments] from Kazaa users, but now I'm doing that and also getting great speeds.
I'm going to gnutella [mainstream] if Limewire puts a tad more work into their program. It's great now, and so is gnutella in general. But it doesn't have the 'juice' like Fast Track does. I know I will get flamed for this.
I used that article as a source for a paper I wrote in the 11th grade. The teacher was a boozer, she hated me, and hated my mom when she had her.
I got an A though. I had to read my paper "Who should hold the keys to encryption" in front of the class, and a bunch of college prep kids all looked at me with a stale look.
This was about the same time that there was a big push for gov't storage of private keys, like an escrow service. Of course my paper was against this.
Yes, as people pointed out... I didn't spell "Grammar" right.
I never said I was the Spelling Nazi, thankfully we have some here on slashdot.
Linux is friendly, if you can read. Slackware may not be, but Red Hat and Mandrake are.
Yes, I know what an API is. My best friend is a MCSE eng, and a full time programmer. Trust me he is smart. He also is a Windows lover, but hates creating programs for it because in his words: "the API system is like a net, it all connects, has huge holes, and all those connections don't touch the things they need to." He _is_ a MS zealot though.
Again though: My point about AOL [!] is that they could get marketshare, and by your own words, driver support would show up. There are a lot of companies that support hardware just because enough people complained. These aren't even a fraction of that ".25%". How do you think linux boots, runs and plays music [video etc]? By a miracle? Do you think EVERY driver was written by Linus and Alan?
... but still, there are plenty of hardware companies that actually have stayed in business. Some were around before windows or linux.
But still, more and more, you are seeing "tested with linux" or "works with linux" on boxes. These are companies that have been around for a long time too.
Let's not forget that nVidia releases drivers for linux, themselves. Some complain that the drivers aren't opened, but at least they have done all the work and not made some other people do it for them.
To make a long story short: XP and USB doesn't get along for me.
Tried to move the XP partition to the end, and then install '98 [don't worry, I use linux on my other PC... my GF won't give up RA2, and this machine has software based hardware]
I had the PM 7.0 'rescue' disks; but because of the software that I used to format the drive [about 1.5 yrs ago] I couldn't use them... some crap that came with my HD. EZ-bios or some sort of thing.
I since reformatted loosing so much. But I gained disk space! lol
Don't worry though, most of my mp3's are backed up on CD [about 40-50 CDs], as well as most things. The thing that really gets me is my Webshots stuff. I loved that program and had so much 'custom' pictures on it. I need to hunt down that lego porn...
ok, not so short.
...that Disney[?] movie with Tim Allen?
First thing he does when he gets to the island is set up his laptop and start trading coffee beans [which is funny that he is trading in NY when the coffee is harvested only miles to the south].
This sort of thing would help a lot if let's say, you were the president of Enron and you wanted to be out of the country when you bail on the stock. You don't want to play Quake over this, but trading stock would be nice. Pick a few quotes, and just have those streamed. Then you've got that huge uplink to make sure your purchases get sent.
Don't say that 300 baud [d/l] isn't fast enough to get quotes. My ***** has an old computer he _has_ to use to get quotes for work and the modem is 300 baud. Slow enough to make a present calculator able to break the encryption in real time.
I guess it would also be nice if you are hosting warez and want to stay on the run. Are we going to start seeing mobile pr0n sites from the jungle?
...rewritten from scratch...
I understand what they are saying. They had the kernel. They took the ideas in it, an rewrote it.
But rewritten from scratch isn't correct. It's rewritten. It's written from scratch. Which is it?
No seriously, which is it? Did they actually rewrite it? Or did they completely start from a blank sheet and name the new kernel after the old one?
Either way, I'd like to try this. I ran the 'OS on a disk' version a few years ago and loved it. Of course I could nit-pick there too. OS on a disk? I hope so if it's an embedded OS, because a hard drive would defeat the purpose.
Is the reason for high cost access in AU because of the fact that it's basically an island, or is it because the service has to reach into areas that aren't so populated?
I know to AU's that may seem so stupid, but which is it? Could satellite access [on the ISP end] solve this problem?
Forgive me for my ignorance. It makes sense that they charge their users so much if there is a cable from Asia/Indo-China or Hawaii going to AU, but other than that... it doesn't make sense at all.
Don't users in Hawaii get better rates than AU?
I wish I had a fuel cell yesterday to power my computer.
The power went out while trying to repartition [XP sux, wanted to go back to '98] and I lost all my data. Everything was one huge file.
Lost about 20+ GB of 'legal' mp3's.
Sorry, I just wanted to bitch about it.
I guess you are an idiot.
I know they can't 0wn the source code. But by owning Red Hat they DO have an incentive when it comes to modifying said source.
Red Hat does make linux friendly, just as other distros. Have you made your system by scratch? And have you installed Red Hat or Mandrake? These two make it waaaaaay easier than doing it by hand. I guess that RPM is an example of Red Hat sitting on thier asses not doing a thing?
It isn't a bitch to maintain, unless you are a fucking moron. This is the point we've come to. Seperating the morons from the regular people.
Ok, you are a MS fanboy. I guess you can't understand that if they're was another major player in town that hardware vendors would notice.
You have showed me how much of a fucking moron you are. At one point, hardware vendors were more in-tuned to what 'AOLites' wanted than other users.
Linux drivers would cost no more than windows drivers. Considering that linux drivers could be written in a standard language, compared to windows' use of API's and what not which confuse even the most talented developers.
Get your head out of your ass, and realize that if AOL did market RHat, that they would give Windows a run for it's money. Also don't forget that you have no clue what AOL users want or need.
Hardware vendors also will not give a fuck. They make shit margins on their products.
Sure, that is why they NEVER come out with new products. Come on, why do you think they stay in business for so long. Nvidia is an example. They never have new products every six months because they can't make cash on them... what a fucking idiot!
You mean other than supporting all of the peripherals you might want to buy, or running the other 99% of the software out there that isn't available for linux?
I said no counting if MS did dirty shit to get to where they are now. Sure Windows has a lot, but not all, of the hardware supported under the sun. That is because of restrictive agreements by them, not because people like them so much. You also are mistaken when it comes to software. MS doesn't have more software under their belt than the linux community. You must be thinking MS Office, which of course will never be supported by linux. Sorry. Linux has more software available for it than Windows... face it. PS: when my USB devices fail, MS doesn't do shit to support them, they tell me to buy a PCI USB card. That is against their ads which portray them as supporting all the hardware available.
Let me tell you a little clue about 24 hour news networks - unless there is a crisis going on, they are by no means "rolling in it". Prior to 9/11, CNN was bleeding money, badly. Once things settle down, they will go back to bleeding money. Don't believe me - check AOL/TW financials.
I guess that is why CNN has TWO 24 hour news channels? You dumb piece of shit, people like being able to turn on a channel and catching the news.
Regardless, you missed my whole point. I won't type it again because you can't read.
lol.... I don't think that Clinton asked to send people to Somalia. It was Bush.
Just like Waco, people act as if Clinton was the one to blame. Both conflicts were started under Bush. Please remember that.
Also try to remember that this fight wasn't our own. Clinton was smart by not sending in more troops than necessary. Most Americans don't want to fight for others. That is just how it is.
In fact, Aidid should have had his butt kicked. He was someone who raped his own people for power. Clinton knew that furthering this war would have made him look bad. The Rangers didn't want more, they wanted out.
Clinton did the right thing by not going on with a Bush era war that would have made their oil hungry family rich.
not for mod points:
But the guardian is paper which natuarally points out the things [even un-true] which are anti-American.
Lets correct these -
Linux + four years development and application support = Windows
Netscape + 80% market share lost = IE
WMP isn't Winamp because Winamp does not own its protocol, and like it or lump it, WMA is taking off.
MSN is still inferior to AOL, you're right there.
As for MSNBS and CNN, neither makes money, so who cares.
Development? Into what? A bloated, unstable, insecure piece of crap? What does Windows do that Linux can't? Nothing. No fair counting dirty shit M$ has done to make everything their own. Destroying small companies and restrictive signing contracts is what made Windows big, not development.
Netscape did loose 80% of their market share. I guess someone could argue that was because of a little problem with IE not going away, but I won't. As with other programs, high market share doesn't meant that it's the best thing under the sun.
WMA is taking off? Gee, I wonder why? Is it because it is now part of the OS? Next you are going to say MSN's AIM clone is taking off. It is also part of the OS as well. Winamp could have it's own FORMAT, but that would be silly since people don't want proprietary shit when it comes to media. When is the last time you encoded a CD in real audio? Why do we want to have 100 apps for all the types of media we have? Or will it be one app, WMP?
I never used MSN [ok, once in '96] or AOL [ok, once in '94]... I hear they both suck.
MSNBC and CNN are rolling in it. Plus, it's a media outlet... the first thing taken out in war is these two channels. [fox news can stay on because it's so fucking backwards, i mean 'centered']
I think you missed the point. These products are no where close to being equal. But my point was to show that these two can go head to head.
About the source code... [argh, and some bad words !!!!]
Sure, they have had it. You could to, but what stops you from working with it? Your fanboy ass can't capitalize on it. If AOL buys RHat, they either would need to bury it or work on it.
THAT IS WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM WORK ON THE SOURCE! IT WOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST! IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND. I can't believe I've resorted in typing in all caps.
ok... very nice reply.
By saying "they have the source code" like it is some super secret just makes you look like a fucking moron.
Because I was wrong? No. They do... right now. You could have it to. The difference is they can get 'dollars out of consumers wallets' if they own Red Hat. Ergo, they will do something with that source that is available.
Red Hat takes a bunch of software other people wrote that they don't own the rights to (yet are allowed to do this because of the license) and package it behind a cute and cudly installation program and call it Red Hat. With GPL code,...
They do have a right to modify the source. They can't call it their own however. But if someone else does all the work, and then you make it work together, that is doing something! You fucking moron. Sure, it would be easy if someone wrote the whole thing for them, they slapped on a few PNG's of a guy with a hat and put it in a box... but there is a tad more than that. If you haven't noticed, RHat has done some work of their own.
If AOL did buy Red Hat they wouldn't by some magical means get a bunch of drivers written for shit.
Yes they would. That is my point. A lot of hardware vendors would perk up and notice that the game is on. If they couldn't get anywhere, it just goes to prove the monopoly idea. M$ ownes the market on x86, from software to computer mice. Not only is that illegal, but it's plain wrong. If you weren't a fanboy you would notice that.
Do you think them buying the rights to a Linux distributor is somehow going to make them cool dudes and not be out for every fucking dollar in the world?
LOL! It's not about kewl dudes. I could care less either way. It's about the fact that I like linux, and I don't like windows. Sorry, but I don't. Try to wrap your fucking mind around the fact that it isn't the best product to hit the market. Neither is linux, shit, nothing is. But if this gets some work put into linux... I don't care who owns Red Hat. I could always go to, well, any other distro in town.
50%? I won't even check that number, but that is about 137 million people, in the USA alone.
AOL has the marketing power, they have channels to advertise on. They've got magazines to advertise in. They've got a forum, they own the forum. Because they bought Time Warner! Bought.
Next time you see a commercial with linux, it might not be an IBM commercial. It may welcome you into the fuzzy warm world of linux.
Wow! Because of this donation to the Perl guys and gals, my check is in the mail.
I use DynDNS, and have been thinking about sending them *something*. I don't have much, but to see them donate a little something in return is nice. Any donation is cheaper than getting a 'real' domain name. Plus *.ath.cx is kinda cool, I wonder if goatse.ath.cx is available?
I just hope all these donations don't go to stuff like strippers. I could be spending my money on that.
How about illegal.
Just as an AC posted about two mins ago, it's like 'slamming'.
If my local bell switched my phone service over to another company, and then signed some sort of contract on my behalf....
...sounds very illegal to me.
So if you are using Eudora (or linux), you're out of luck.
Wow, that is pretty bad. If it is true.
Specifically locking out competitor products is the kind of thing that brings down a company when they are selling services to the public.
I think if your local phone company made them buy the phone from you, they would get into some trouble.
I like to watch gorillas!
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rtsp://63.237.143.140/encoder/d-zoone.rm [real players
Sometimes you can watch the camera focus. That is pretty cool considering you are getting the feed faster than the camera can adjust.
Real cool in full screen.
Actually, that's not a really accurate statement. The people in Ohio were complaining because the runways run north-south and the air traffic was routed directly over their houses at low altitude in the late hours of the night. And, large portions of that area aren't "rich" as you put it - I believe the area is mostly lower-middle-class, and they had a real noise complaint.
No, they aren't lower-middle class. The people are upper-middle if not upper class. Lower class people rarely get their compliants on TV because they don't have the 'juice' to do so.
The were complaining because they paid 70,000+ for their homes. They couldn't understand why they didn't go over the cheaper neighborhoods. It wasn't the whole city complaining, it was one specific neighborhood.
I really don't know what they were complaining about. I live a few miles to the east of them. While I'm on the westside of 'nati still. The traffic used to go over our neighborhood, and it wasn't a problem. Sometimes if you talked on your portable phone outside you would get drowned out by engine noise, but that was it.
It was the west siders who complained... not the eastsiders. Eastsiders, mainly, are way richer than the w'siders.
I know it could save lives, but that doesn't make it legal.
Sorry, but that is how things are.
I think you are overlookin AOL's control.
With major news magazines and cable channels under their control they can squash anyone in there way.
Yes, clueless AOL users still use the web, but they won't switch from AOL. For some AOL is great because it's so easy. Can they make linux that easy? Yes. Because they have the source code.
The only bad thing I can see coming out of this is Microsoft Apps for linux. Closed, of course, but IE 7.0?
I kinda support this, because if AOL gets into the linux game device drivers will suddenly pop-up out of no where. I don't think they will be writing them, or the Rhat team. But a bunch of closed source drivers will show up for things we never seen before. Winmodems? First time an AOL/Linux/GNU/TW user says his modem won't work, AOL will step up their power and get him a driver.
I think RHat would be left to do it's own thing, but it will have it's bigger brother AOL/TW to get the tough shit done.
I just hope someone watches the source code.
As far as AOL depending on MS... I don't think so. Every AOL/TW daughter company has a product to kill MS.
Windows = Linux
IE = Netscape
Windows Media Player = Winamp [no video, yet]
MSN = AOL
MSNBC = CNN
What else? These are going to be two heavyweights battling it out. Hopefully AOL wins. Yes, they are lame, but they will still have linux! [zealot? me? yes!]
It's gonna be a good fight to watch.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:doodoo%40 hooked.net&num=100&hl=en&sa=N&tab=dg
Johnny Walker's posts above.
It's about being practical though. The equipment isn't there to monitor every telephone line and also do voice recognition on all those lines. Do you know how many times I use the phone in one day? So many people use the phone lines, so often... it's impossible.
Really doesn't have to much to do with computers. The phone lines are limited enough.
I think they could be watching every keystroke that comes off my fingers... that is different.
In a way computers could be to the NSA what Goebbels was to the NAZI party.
I already know you are anti-left from previous posts.
The thing is though... look at our history. We started as a right-wing gov't in all respects, but we are becoming more centralized, if not sliding to the left.
I think it's important to have both, but a careful balance of the two.
As far as Communism not working on the 'large scale'... people say the same stuff about capitalism.
I think we could become 'communists' but only through a slow, very slow, transition. We wouldn't even see it happening.
See, it's not a hard wired as you think. There is still a part that makes people want to put on the same level. It's the upper class who doesn't want to go down to a lower class. If by some way we could eliminate the lower classes then we could become 'equals'. Who is the great thinkers/leaders? Jesus, Ghandi, Marx? All people who advocate at least equal treatment.
I don't believe that we will some day become people with no possesions, that isn't a choice. But something will prevail that will look a lot like communism.
The problem with 'basic, evolution-wired' desires is that... you got it! It can evolve right away.