The problem is, first: it's illegal. Sorry, it is. I download mp3s... but damn it is illegal. DMCA?
If you think music is going to stay free while they are throwing a million new DVD formats at us trying to squeeze more cash out... think again.
If [for example] EMI signs a deal with KaZaa to distribute music on their label for a price, expect EMI and KaZaa to sue anyone to distributes EMI music any other way. It's that simple.
You think it's going to stay free? I don't think so. They are trying to find a way to make sure they get every nickel out of you right now. When they do, lawsuits will spring up so fast.
All of your P2P networks will be watched closely if they aren't shut down. It could take a strong legal precedent to wipe out file sharing across the board.
It's not about copyrights, it's about distribution rights. It's about who gets what share.
Why should anyone pay for USENET service when it's included with the service? Simply don't offer it, offer text only services and advertise that, or sell USENET extra. But for god sakes drop the price of the overall service. For $50 a month, they should guarantee great server retention. $50 is too much for cable, considering other providers offer no-cap, for $10 less.
But cable providers are special. If they were smart they would have the news server local relative to the customers. There is no reason ATT or even AOL and the rest can't set up a local news server. They have the lines.
If the server is local, they don't share the server between cities - cutting down the load. They also save $ on bandwidth considering the server is only a few hops away, those hops being within the same building.
And when it comes to warez or porn... whose business is it what they are doing? What if I want to take a daily backup of alt.religion.scientology? or even alt.religion.* ? Maybe I'm a linux enthusiast and want to archive comp.os.linux.* ? Or even alt.linux.sucks.?
Maybe they want to download them all [mentioned above]. It shouldn't matter.
It would be like saying... "you get this open, fast, connection. We will provide a news server somewhere within our own net. But you can download more on IRC, Napster, the web and FTP sites... you're welcome"
Other than the Discovery channel crap I studied no Q. Physics. That book was an easy read for anyone who's taken algebra, and I finished it in less than a month. [not bad, I read it when I took a shit... you know]
Hey, I'm not suggesting they actually do this. I like the system the way it is. We pay our tax and we get to copy stuff.
I just cooked up this big fantasy because this is the type of thing we are going to see from the great media empires.
At least I trust AOL. Don't ask me why. It just seems that their plan isn't charge for every usage, or even bother tracking you. Their model has always been pay the same rate month after month. [premium services never really took off]
Give us tiered pricing plans on the mp3's we can legally download. 10 bucks a month for 75MB, 15 for 100MB... let them cook it up.
I've known for years that Carpal Tunnel isn't a disablility. How do I know this?
First not everyone that gets CTS is a computer user. It usually strikes factory line workers. My father works in a printer/binder shop [printing those IDG books is a million $ acct] on the line.
The older women who work there doing routine things often talked about 'early retirement'. This was getting CTS and going on SSDI. But years ago they stopped giving out SSDI for CTS because it can be fixed with simple surgury.
I can't buy the fact that piracy fears is what holds back broadband.
Among the plenty of other problems posted above, lack of real, non-pirate content is the problem. Up until Napster and the open piracy market there was no way for John User to get movies or music online.
Sure there was a few things, like real video - but it is still somewhat limited. If we all could get commercial paid video, or some sort of system - broadband would explode.
Only haxor elite such as myself have a use for broadband. I download linux iso's at least once a week [depending on if I used a CDRW or not]. How many newbies are going to use that?
But alas, the video content provided [legally] is growing. I love netbroadcaster.com, for example because I can watch full movies - only at the price of a few pop-ups.
Get rid of the bullshit, commercial type video clips and we'd be happy. Don't dangle the hook, give us the worm!
I'm a TW-RoadRunner customer and they are showing some promise on thier own. Although, here in Cincinnati the DSL service offers WB over the net... we are on the right track.
But where are cool things for people on the straight and narrow?
Well, here is one I've been watching all day. Full screen too, amazing... I can actually see the camera focus before I get the video!
But just in case [i've been up all night eating chocolate mints] here it goes.
My point was that Gracenote would only provide a database for disc id's.
Let's say you make a CD with a Roxio product [or plugg'd app]. Before you eject it the ID is taken from that CD. Not the serial, but the unique ID and it's furnished to Gracenote.
But how do they know what songs are on your CD? They [being whatever online emusic retailer] knows because you bought it from them. The track list is sent with the ID to Gracenote, they know what songs match that CD.
Now, here is the fun part. When you play that CD, Gracenote knows what songs you listened to and to what frequency. Whatever app you use to listen to music uploads the stats. Hell, even car radios could do this soon. Of course you get a weekly e-mail suggesting you buy this or that music.
With a format such as wma, you can listen before you buy. Buy, burn listen. Now, if you put that CD you've legally bought and burned into a CD-Rom and try to rip it, you get a nice little note: "sorry, but you can't copy this custom CD".
I've just spelled it out for the whole industry. In fact, they only need to find a distribution method. Agree on some restricting format. Come up with a numbering method. Roll out software [XP service pack 3]. And really not make a new format. If they just use Roxio burning soft, then they can come up with some sort of copy-protection method which would burn onto the disc. Considering it's against the DMCA to try to break it, they have the law behind them.
If they would like to roll out hardware later on, then they would. Maybe a CD player component that shows the information on your TV screen, such as lyrics or what not. All through the internet.
Considering Roxio is moving towards the pay-for-online music market I'm guessing that the reason for the sealed settlement is because there is something we shouldn't know [yet].
Look at the big players:
* Microsoft - Why not, they aren't there yet. WindowsXP has the media player built in, and also CD burning. If you do install their CD writing software you can't use other software because of conflicts. On purpose? They also have their own music format which proves to be great at keeping songs from being copied. Trust me, I've backed up wma files I created and when my system crashed I couldn't play the restored files. [livid]
* Real - They used to charge for the player, now they are offering more and more for-pay content. This 'Real-One' software also has a built in CD burning component. Let's also bring up the fact that both players mentioned thus far use Roxio 'plug-ins'. Real needs to compete with MS so expect a internet for-pay system from them.
* Roxio - To my knowledge, the biggest recording software around. If the RIAA wants to be friends with someone, it's them. If we should be expecting a new CD Audio format soon, Roxio will likely be the only ones to let us record using it. Don't say there won't be a new CD Audio format, because there seems to be a new DVD format coming from MS. [don't forget their own for-pay systems]
* RIAA - The biggest bastards of them all! They want every penny, "all your fair use..." and of course double taxation is their favorite pastime.
So how does Gracenote fit in? Maybe there will be a new CD Audio format. That format one day may also have a user-id [.NET?] that makes you check in before you play, rip etc.
Who knows what they will cook up. They've already produced the copy-protected CD's. Buy Gracenote will likely be the center point where your CD will be cataloged. RIAA provides the artist names, Gracenote provides stats [where, when, what songs]. Gracenote also dishes out the serial number which helps the RIAA catch you when you 'donate' your music to a P2P network.
Maybe every subsequent copy made from a master disc [or master media file] will have a trailing number which keeps track of how many copies you've made.
When you pop in that CD you get a call[AIM, ICQ or MSN message]:
"Mr. Smith? You've copied that disc 47 times. Do you really need that many?"
This is Mr. Johnson... who the fsck is this?
Stay there sir, you are BUSTED!
Fall out for linux users? If we aren't required to use a DRM system by law, freedb will be sued - all non-compliant cdrecording software will go underground and don't expect to be able to play music CD's.
I know the seal is because one of the two companies are pussies but expect this system to come about. The world is absolute disarray - eXpect Problems.
My former uber-boss Colleen Carr, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, knew not only about the supervisor sleeping with sales reps [which is strictly forbidden in the handbook!], but that she let the woman [Kim Gordon] keep her job after she slept with someone under age! That is plain illegal in this state. Not only did she not report the situation to the police, but she let her keep her job.
There are also rumors that she was going to fire a whistle blower. The whistle blower was a beloved co-worker and, to our knowledge, quit before she could have been fired.
So basically I can't say this? Oh, ok I can say this because I've not e-mailed the company, lied, acted with malice [maybe a little[JOKE!]], or tried to be anonymous. [e-mail me Enq, if you want].
So I'm safe because the story is true and they won't want to bring it up in court since they could be sued, and the whole story would come out
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Troll? WTF is going on today... kill those moders.
Well, I guess 'acceptable usage' is defined by what ONE SPECIAL PREDEFINED user will use, and not what the user can use.
Simply, it is defeating the purpose of BB access.
I guess, even legit binary groups are out. There are plenty of groups which deal with trading your OWN art. Bryce works etc....
look at the groups, it's not all newbie/help questions, pr0n and warez.
The problem is, first: it's illegal. Sorry, it is. I download mp3s... but damn it is illegal. DMCA?
If you think music is going to stay free while they are throwing a million new DVD formats at us trying to squeeze more cash out... think again.
If [for example] EMI signs a deal with KaZaa to distribute music on their label for a price, expect EMI and KaZaa to sue anyone to distributes EMI music any other way. It's that simple.
You think it's going to stay free? I don't think so. They are trying to find a way to make sure they get every nickel out of you right now. When they do, lawsuits will spring up so fast.
All of your P2P networks will be watched closely if they aren't shut down. It could take a strong legal precedent to wipe out file sharing across the board.
It's not about copyrights, it's about distribution rights. It's about who gets what share.
Flamebait? Fuck I should go for broke!
Someone please tell me what is wrong with the uber-parent post?
Slowly I lose my karma.
Not unreasonable?
Why should anyone pay for USENET service when it's included with the service? Simply don't offer it, offer text only services and advertise that, or sell USENET extra. But for god sakes drop the price of the overall service. For $50 a month, they should guarantee great server retention. $50 is too much for cable, considering other providers offer no-cap, for $10 less.
But cable providers are special. If they were smart they would have the news server local relative to the customers. There is no reason ATT or even AOL and the rest can't set up a local news server. They have the lines.
If the server is local, they don't share the server between cities - cutting down the load. They also save $ on bandwidth considering the server is only a few hops away, those hops being within the same building.
And when it comes to warez or porn... whose business is it what they are doing? What if I want to take a daily backup of alt.religion.scientology? or even alt.religion.* ? Maybe I'm a linux enthusiast and want to archive comp.os.linux.* ? Or even alt.linux.sucks.?
Maybe they want to download them all [mentioned above]. It shouldn't matter.
It would be like saying... "you get this open, fast, connection. We will provide a news server somewhere within our own net. But you can download more on IRC, Napster, the web and FTP sites... you're welcome"
I think the point was that they want to use the binaries groups.
Of course they can read and post text messages... even if they cap it.
And why should they limit the ability of this service? This is like selling a car with a potato up the tailpipe.
Actually, I noticed someone earlier [above] saying that the light somewhat went 'back in time'.
This is nothing new as it's be a theory for years that particles move back in time for a moment.
Read more here if you want more info.
It's actually a mind bender, but I haven't read the page above. Another source would be a book called "In Search of Schrodinger's Cat?". A review here.
Other than the Discovery channel crap I studied no Q. Physics. That book was an easy read for anyone who's taken algebra, and I finished it in less than a month. [not bad, I read it when I took a shit... you know]
Troll? Fuck me man... there goes my karma when I finally get some.
Wait, it was supposed to be funny. And can this infect XP? Seriously kids... my sister is a huge SWF fan.
When I made the backups there were no such options in Windows Media Player.
I know the option was added a tenth of a version later.
Hey, I'm not suggesting they actually do this. I like the system the way it is. We pay our tax and we get to copy stuff.
I just cooked up this big fantasy because this is the type of thing we are going to see from the great media empires.
At least I trust AOL. Don't ask me why. It just seems that their plan isn't charge for every usage, or even bother tracking you. Their model has always been pay the same rate month after month. [premium services never really took off]
Give us tiered pricing plans on the mp3's we can legally download. 10 bucks a month for 75MB, 15 for 100MB... let them cook it up.
My brain hurts.
I know I've got that All Your Base swf sitting around.
Unlock it, put in the virus - and viola!
ALL YOUR WINDOWS BOX ARE BELONG TO US!!!
But seriously... XP is built on NT/2000... is this going to be another code red style worm?
First not everyone that gets CTS is a computer user. It usually strikes factory line workers. My father works in a printer/binder shop [printing those IDG books is a million $ acct] on the line.
The older women who work there doing routine things often talked about 'early retirement'. This was getting CTS and going on SSDI. But years ago they stopped giving out SSDI for CTS because it can be fixed with simple surgury.
Sorry kids, it's only a temporary problem.
How is this your rights online? They have the right to track you. But they are going out of business.
Usually I don't 'nock slash, but this is News for Marketers, Stuff that matters to guys in suits.
I can't buy the fact that piracy fears is what holds back broadband.
Among the plenty of other problems posted above, lack of real, non-pirate content is the problem. Up until Napster and the open piracy market there was no way for John User to get movies or music online.
Sure there was a few things, like real video - but it is still somewhat limited. If we all could get commercial paid video, or some sort of system - broadband would explode.
Only haxor elite such as myself have a use for broadband. I download linux iso's at least once a week [depending on if I used a CDRW or not]. How many newbies are going to use that?
But alas, the video content provided [legally] is growing. I love netbroadcaster.com, for example because I can watch full movies - only at the price of a few pop-ups.
Get rid of the bullshit, commercial type video clips and we'd be happy. Don't dangle the hook, give us the worm!
I'm a TW-RoadRunner customer and they are showing some promise on thier own. Although, here in Cincinnati the DSL service offers WB over the net... we are on the right track.
But where are cool things for people on the straight and narrow?
Well, here is one I've been watching all day. Full screen too, amazing... I can actually see the camera focus before I get the video!
Ok. Go back and re-read my post.
But just in case [i've been up all night eating chocolate mints] here it goes.
My point was that Gracenote would only provide a database for disc id's.
Let's say you make a CD with a Roxio product [or plugg'd app]. Before you eject it the ID is taken from that CD. Not the serial, but the unique ID and it's furnished to Gracenote.
But how do they know what songs are on your CD? They [being whatever online emusic retailer] knows because you bought it from them. The track list is sent with the ID to Gracenote, they know what songs match that CD.
Now, here is the fun part. When you play that CD, Gracenote knows what songs you listened to and to what frequency. Whatever app you use to listen to music uploads the stats. Hell, even car radios could do this soon. Of course you get a weekly e-mail suggesting you buy this or that music.
With a format such as wma, you can listen before you buy. Buy, burn listen. Now, if you put that CD you've legally bought and burned into a CD-Rom and try to rip it, you get a nice little note: "sorry, but you can't copy this custom CD".
I've just spelled it out for the whole industry. In fact, they only need to find a distribution method. Agree on some restricting format. Come up with a numbering method. Roll out software [XP service pack 3]. And really not make a new format. If they just use Roxio burning soft, then they can come up with some sort of copy-protection method which would burn onto the disc. Considering it's against the DMCA to try to break it, they have the law behind them.
If they would like to roll out hardware later on, then they would. Maybe a CD player component that shows the information on your TV screen, such as lyrics or what not. All through the internet.
I don't smoke crack.. but I do fondle baby mice.
Story submitters: Try to do this every time. It's provides context, and you know we all want just click and not hunt it down.
[yoshi@ilp.ath.cx]# apt-get zeosync /dev/hda* HD_backup.zeo
[yoshi@ilp.ath.cx]# zeosync -compress
[yoshi@ilp.ath.cx]# ls
-rw------- 1 yoshi users 1 Jan 08 14:25 HD_backup.zeo
Oh, that's right never.
[windows users: the bold 1 would be the file size of all backed up partitions on the primary disk]
(Score:3, Informative) ?
Informative? I understood the german much more...
... and I took spanish and latin!
Look at the big players:
* Microsoft - Why not, they aren't there yet. WindowsXP has the media player built in, and also CD burning. If you do install their CD writing software you can't use other software because of conflicts. On purpose? They also have their own music format which proves to be great at keeping songs from being copied. Trust me, I've backed up wma files I created and when my system crashed I couldn't play the restored files. [livid]
* Real - They used to charge for the player, now they are offering more and more for-pay content. This 'Real-One' software also has a built in CD burning component. Let's also bring up the fact that both players mentioned thus far use Roxio 'plug-ins'. Real needs to compete with MS so expect a internet for-pay system from them.
* Roxio - To my knowledge, the biggest recording software around. If the RIAA wants to be friends with someone, it's them. If we should be expecting a new CD Audio format soon, Roxio will likely be the only ones to let us record using it. Don't say there won't be a new CD Audio format, because there seems to be a new DVD format coming from MS. [don't forget their own for-pay systems]
* RIAA - The biggest bastards of them all! They want every penny, "all your fair use..." and of course double taxation is their favorite pastime.
So how does Gracenote fit in? Maybe there will be a new CD Audio format. That format one day may also have a user-id [.NET?] that makes you check in before you play, rip etc.
Who knows what they will cook up. They've already produced the copy-protected CD's. Buy Gracenote will likely be the center point where your CD will be cataloged. RIAA provides the artist names, Gracenote provides stats [where, when, what songs]. Gracenote also dishes out the serial number which helps the RIAA catch you when you 'donate' your music to a P2P network.
Maybe every subsequent copy made from a master disc [or master media file] will have a trailing number which keeps track of how many copies you've made.
When you pop in that CD you get a call[AIM, ICQ or MSN message]:
"Mr. Smith? You've copied that disc 47 times. Do you really need that many?"
This is Mr. Johnson... who the fsck is this?
Stay there sir, you are BUSTED!
Fall out for linux users? If we aren't required to use a DRM system by law, freedb will be sued - all non-compliant cdrecording software will go underground and don't expect to be able to play music CD's.
I know the seal is because one of the two companies are pussies but expect this system to come about. The world is absolute disarray - eXpect Problems.
Exactly, at Blockbuster and Hollywood you couldn't find stuff even if it was mainstream.
What if I'm making a statement like this: [true]
My former uber-boss Colleen Carr, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, knew not only about the supervisor sleeping with sales reps [which is strictly forbidden in the handbook!], but that she let the woman [Kim Gordon] keep her job after she slept with someone under age! That is plain illegal in this state. Not only did she not report the situation to the police, but she let her keep her job.
There are also rumors that she was going to fire a whistle blower. The whistle blower was a beloved co-worker and, to our knowledge, quit before she could have been fired.
So basically I can't say this? Oh, ok I can say this because I've not e-mailed the company, lied, acted with malice [maybe a little[JOKE!]], or tried to be anonymous. [e-mail me Enq, if you want].
So I'm safe because the story is true and they won't want to bring it up in court since they could be sued, and the whole story would come out
Yes, google saved the historical record of the USENET, but it needed not to save the USENET from anything else. USENET is alive and well.
I really can't wait.
When I see someone walking down the street with one of these things, I'm gonna smash it into little pieces all over the place.
Every day I think of a million ideas to stomp and squash on standards... but being a good person I keep it to myself.