In other words, people who are already in trouble feel compound effects with other changes in their lives.
Can an hour or two really have such a severe effect? If that was the case, shouldn't there be a massive effect when travelling and crossing time zones? A quick PubMed search didn't throw up any studies with jetlag and suicide or heart attack.
You're talking about results of a self-selected study, essentially. Most people who travel have a choice about when to do it, and don't do it when they're not up for it. Start involuntarily loading millions of people into airplanes with no regard whatsoever for their current health status and moving them to new time zones, then see what effect jetlag has on their health.
You know, those of us who want the extra daylight could just get up an hour earlier and go into work earlier.
I can do that. However, I was under the impression the majority of people actually work for someone else, often at companies or organizations that have a set schedule. "You know, those of you who want this can just quit your jobs." Uh huh...
It is... but if it seems silly to you, you treat the entirely arbitrary way we label periods of time entirely too seriously. Among other things, you seem to think that a particular point of time is really 4pm rather than 5pm, which is patently absurd. It's either 4pm or 5pm because we decide to call it that. Neither answer is more "real" than the other.
8.8 on which scale? I recall we abandoned the good old scale for something a lot more vague. Not mentioning which scale is used is what? To add to the confusion?
Um, make up your mind. There's absolutely no confusion or need to mention which scale is being used unless you're lying about us having abandoned the old scale. We can't both abandon it and still use it...
I've been waiting for news of the impact of the waves when they reach Taiwan. Looks like they've come but had no major impact. Yay for that, hopefully the same will be true of the Philippines. I have friends in Manila -- hoping that nothing major in Taiwan means the Philippines will be okay.
Quite right, like a flash flood, except on a huge scale. And it picks up so much stuff that it ends up looking like a giant mudslide, although it's clearly moving way, way too fast and fluidly to *be* mud, despite what it looks like.
But, damn. That tidal wave footage left me speechless.
Yeah, I was watching what looked like some water washing across a field carrying some garbage and debris in it, then they zoom in and you see the "garbage" is composed of large buildings, and the "little bits of debris" is a bunch of cars and buses. At which point, the whole sense of scale snaps in and you realize that that water that at first looked to be slowly flowing inland is in fact going far, far faster than you could possibly run if it was coming towards you...
They've definitely made progress, but there's still something... not quite right about it. Considering that the easiest part of creating an android is probably the static external features such as skin, hair, and eyes (lots of practice from movie/TV makeup), it's interesting that a still photo still triggers the cues which tell us "that's not real."
Actually, I think he looks perfectly real, as long as it's a still shot and his mouth is closed. The movements look wrong, and the mouth looks off even in a still shot if it's open, which I'm guessing is related somehow to how they're controlling the movement -- it doesn't quite properly simulate every last facial muscle that's involved, and so even in a still shot, with the mouth open not everything's where it's supposed to be.
This is panspermia propaganda piece. Interstellar, of course (interplanetary would be too sane and too plausible). They are not as crackpotey as, say, creationists, but after gems like cosmic life cycle in molecular clouds I consider them strictly outside of mainstream science.
A lot of what is currently mainstream science was once outside of the mainstream. That said, in science, you don't get nor deserve accolades for being right, but for proving it.
Not comparable at all, unless you mean that literally, in which case, it's much, much better. Having a full bladder is supposed to improve your ability to make decisions, whereas being distracted by a game of Go, which does require some thought and attention, is almost certainly going to have a negative impact on whatever decision you're trying to make while playing Go, as demonstrated by the fact that you're trying to make important decisions while occupying your mind with something else entirely instead.:p
If you're in danger of dozing off, you shouldn't be driving. Doing some trick to prevent you from actually dozing off is putting yourself and everyone else on the road in greater danger. This isn't a binary condition: either fully alert or dead to the world unconscious. You're still more likely to cause an accident, even if you didn't lapse into actual unconsciousness.
"I've done it -- it keeps me fully alert, too!" Uh huh. This is every bit as believable as the drunk who insists they're not too smashed to drive. You feel fully alert. Good for you. Now pull over, take a piss, and then take a nap, resume driving when you actually are fully alert and don't require any tricks to stay awake.
(Couldn't quickly confirm via google, could a slashdot MD confirm or refute?)
I'm not an MD, but I'm an engineer, which as we all know, qualifies me to answer any question.;)
It makes sense. Nihil ex nihil, the liquid in your bladder is coming from your bloodstream, filtered out by the kidneys. If your bladder is full, then no more matter can be pulled out of your bloodstream (or at least significantly less than usual). The same blood system is going to have higher pressure in it if it contains more fluid than it normally would. Even if the kidneys don't stop sending matter to the bladder entirely, I would assume the higher fluid pressure in the bladder makes adding more more difficult, and thus the rate at which it is being added slows, slowing the process of removing it from the bloodstream, leading to some small elevation in blood pressure.
(There are a number of reasons why this would be wrong -- overlooking alternate means of removal, expanding internal volume, etc. But I believe it's at least mostly right, because I've heard the same thing.)
...and rereading, I just realized the source of your confusion. You were probably parsing the original statement as (using parenthesis to indicating precedence as you would in math) "computers were not (useful to many people)", which is certainly false and contradicted by the statement "computers were useful to many people". However, what was meant was almost certainly "computers were (not useful) to many people", which is certainly true and does not contradict the statement "computers were useful to many people", since many people can find computers useful and many people find computers not useful at the same time, as long as they're different people.
If your point was that computers were useful to many people, then yes, but you seemed to be objecting to the person above you's point that computers were not useful to many people, which is also true. To the extent you seemed to be implying that it's false that computers were not useful to many people, you were definitely wrong, and he's not agreeing with you.
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In other words, people who are already in trouble feel compound effects with other changes in their lives.
Can an hour or two really have such a severe effect? If that was the case, shouldn't there be a massive effect when travelling and crossing time zones? A quick PubMed search didn't throw up any studies with jetlag and suicide or heart attack.
You're talking about results of a self-selected study, essentially. Most people who travel have a choice about when to do it, and don't do it when they're not up for it. Start involuntarily loading millions of people into airplanes with no regard whatsoever for their current health status and moving them to new time zones, then see what effect jetlag has on their health.
You know, those of us who want the extra daylight could just get up an hour earlier and go into work earlier.
I can do that. However, I was under the impression the majority of people actually work for someone else, often at companies or organizations that have a set schedule. "You know, those of you who want this can just quit your jobs." Uh huh...
It is... but if it seems silly to you, you treat the entirely arbitrary way we label periods of time entirely too seriously. Among other things, you seem to think that a particular point of time is really 4pm rather than 5pm, which is patently absurd. It's either 4pm or 5pm because we decide to call it that. Neither answer is more "real" than the other.
How does this compare to people who travel one time zone over, let alone multiple time zones? Aren't these people (millions) in worse shape?
Assuming they move twice a year, yes. Otherwise, no. But, yes, moving is a time of great stress that does indeed have negative health impacts.
Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! They should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
Wouldn't Japan's meteorological agency call it a 7.0 on their 7 point scale?
Not here, where it currently reads:
Occurred at 14:46 JST 11 Mar 2011
Region name Sanriku Oki
Depth about 20km
Magnitude 8.8
8.8 on which scale? I recall we abandoned the good old scale for something a lot more vague. Not mentioning which scale is used is what? To add to the confusion?
Um, make up your mind. There's absolutely no confusion or need to mention which scale is being used unless you're lying about us having abandoned the old scale. We can't both abandon it and still use it...
AC troll... you're feeding it. D:<
"This is a computer-generated message -- this event has not yet been reviewed by a seismologist."
Why is everyone blindly trusting the USGS computer? JMA is still asserting a 7.9.
No they aren't. JMA upgraded their estimate to 8.8 about an hour ago.
I've been waiting for news of the impact of the waves when they reach Taiwan. Looks like they've come but had no major impact. Yay for that, hopefully the same will be true of the Philippines. I have friends in Manila -- hoping that nothing major in Taiwan means the Philippines will be okay.
Japan's meteorological agency is currently saying 8.8 as well.
Quite right, like a flash flood, except on a huge scale. And it picks up so much stuff that it ends up looking like a giant mudslide, although it's clearly moving way, way too fast and fluidly to *be* mud, despite what it looks like.
But, damn. That tidal wave footage left me speechless.
Yeah, I was watching what looked like some water washing across a field carrying some garbage and debris in it, then they zoom in and you see the "garbage" is composed of large buildings, and the "little bits of debris" is a bunch of cars and buses. At which point, the whole sense of scale snaps in and you realize that that water that at first looked to be slowly flowing inland is in fact going far, far faster than you could possibly run if it was coming towards you...
They've definitely made progress, but there's still something... not quite right about it. Considering that the easiest part of creating an android is probably the static external features such as skin, hair, and eyes (lots of practice from movie/TV makeup), it's interesting that a still photo still triggers the cues which tell us "that's not real."
Actually, I think he looks perfectly real, as long as it's a still shot and his mouth is closed. The movements look wrong, and the mouth looks off even in a still shot if it's open, which I'm guessing is related somehow to how they're controlling the movement -- it doesn't quite properly simulate every last facial muscle that's involved, and so even in a still shot, with the mouth open not everything's where it's supposed to be.
Classic. My own first thought was they better fill it with torches quick, so it'll stop spawning creepers.
This is panspermia propaganda piece. Interstellar, of course (interplanetary would be too sane and too plausible). They are not as crackpotey as, say, creationists, but after gems like cosmic life cycle in molecular clouds I consider them strictly outside of mainstream science.
A lot of what is currently mainstream science was once outside of the mainstream. That said, in science, you don't get nor deserve accolades for being right, but for proving it.
Okay, that may not live up to human standards for a wine snob, but come on, it's a mouse. By mouse standards, that's highly discriminating.
Not comparable at all, unless you mean that literally, in which case, it's much, much better. Having a full bladder is supposed to improve your ability to make decisions, whereas being distracted by a game of Go, which does require some thought and attention, is almost certainly going to have a negative impact on whatever decision you're trying to make while playing Go, as demonstrated by the fact that you're trying to make important decisions while occupying your mind with something else entirely instead. :p
If you're in danger of dozing off, you shouldn't be driving. Doing some trick to prevent you from actually dozing off is putting yourself and everyone else on the road in greater danger. This isn't a binary condition: either fully alert or dead to the world unconscious. You're still more likely to cause an accident, even if you didn't lapse into actual unconsciousness.
"I've done it -- it keeps me fully alert, too!" Uh huh. This is every bit as believable as the drunk who insists they're not too smashed to drive. You feel fully alert. Good for you. Now pull over, take a piss, and then take a nap, resume driving when you actually are fully alert and don't require any tricks to stay awake.
(Couldn't quickly confirm via google, could a slashdot MD confirm or refute?)
I'm not an MD, but I'm an engineer, which as we all know, qualifies me to answer any question. ;)
It makes sense. Nihil ex nihil, the liquid in your bladder is coming from your bloodstream, filtered out by the kidneys. If your bladder is full, then no more matter can be pulled out of your bloodstream (or at least significantly less than usual). The same blood system is going to have higher pressure in it if it contains more fluid than it normally would. Even if the kidneys don't stop sending matter to the bladder entirely, I would assume the higher fluid pressure in the bladder makes adding more more difficult, and thus the rate at which it is being added slows, slowing the process of removing it from the bloodstream, leading to some small elevation in blood pressure.
(There are a number of reasons why this would be wrong -- overlooking alternate means of removal, expanding internal volume, etc. But I believe it's at least mostly right, because I've heard the same thing.)
Stop breathing just to be on the safe side.
Are you sure this is a good id... i... *thud*
Who cares that, technically speaking, everyone depended on computers well before the world wide web and even the Internet came along.
This statement is, technically speaking, false.
...and rereading, I just realized the source of your confusion. You were probably parsing the original statement as (using parenthesis to indicating precedence as you would in math) "computers were not (useful to many people)", which is certainly false and contradicted by the statement "computers were useful to many people". However, what was meant was almost certainly "computers were (not useful) to many people", which is certainly true and does not contradict the statement "computers were useful to many people", since many people can find computers useful and many people find computers not useful at the same time, as long as they're different people.
So you agree with me?
If your point was that computers were useful to many people, then yes, but you seemed to be objecting to the person above you's point that computers were not useful to many people, which is also true. To the extent you seemed to be implying that it's false that computers were not useful to many people, you were definitely wrong, and he's not agreeing with you.
Funny that you know that, given Puppeteer selective memory erasure technology. ;)