There are enough people cruising the web who would use this information for nefarious purposes, that even if weev had strict White Hat intentions with the data found, it looks suspicious, and gets his ass over 3 years in prison.
There've been pedicabs in downtown San Diego for years now, at least in the areas I frequent. AFAIK, they don't have any coordinated cell phone texting app... they just hang out by the parking structures early on in the evening, and closer to the bars later in the evening. They cruise around with a big inviting empty seat and pick up sore-footed drinkers.
I've never utilized their services myself, but they've always been readily available anytime I'm in the Gaslamp.
What if you buy a car? No leasing, no financing... cash money straight up.
Now you own the car, and it's still illegal to modify it. Want to install new headers? Dual Carbs? Conversion to biodiesel... all illegal in your car analogy. And if the car breaks down, you can either buy a new one, or use the old one offroad only.
P.S. on the subject of cars, don't even bring up the concept of "Street legal." The state has set certain rules and restrictions to limit the amount and severity of modifications you can make to a car. Those laws do not prevent you from making any changes whatsoever, only from making drastic changes that specifically endanger other drivers or the environment. Switching my phone from ATT to Verizon doesn't endanger anything, except a CEOs bottom line.
Sounds like the "too big to fail" mindset. We must keep single and multi together, because they'd obviously fail if we broke them up.
To that, I say "good." Split them up, let them each stand on their own merit and evolve in their own direction. If they can't stand on their own, then they deserve to crash. It happened to Warcraft, and now we have WoW and DotA. Not saying either of those are perfect solutions, but letting those two games evolve on their own spawned a whole new genre (MOBAs) and redefined an existing genre (MMORPGs).
Keeping the two together is why we use the term DotA and not AoS
The fuss is about more than just phones, though phones are included. And right now, it's illegal to hack your phone, even after those 24 months are up, or even if you don't buy a contract. If I walked into an Apple store right now, paid $650 for a new iPhone outright... it would still be illegal to unlock it to work on any network.
The fuss is also about digital media. As another poster up higher elaborated on (it's +5, you should be able to find it easily) it's illegal to take a CD or DVD that you purchased, and copy the files to your own computer. Note : I'm not talking about sharing it with others or downloading it from the interwebz, or anything else. It's illegal to copy your own stuff from 1 place to another.
The fuss is also about video game consoles. Once you buy the console, it is illegal to mess around with the internal components. A few years back, a group of people figured out how to install Linux on their Playstations. Sony's response was to remotely brick the hardware, effectively destroying hardware that these people bought and paid for. This would be like Ford or Chevy blowing up your car if they didn't approve of the color you painted it, or if you didn't use Ford/Chevy brand spark plugs in an upgrade
The fuss is about a lot of things... but mostly it's about how this practice is becoming MORE pervasive, and becoming more accepted. Ten years ago, Sony's rootkit was a huge ordeal and earned the company a massive black eye. These days, they sort of thing would be standard practice.
If a bank didn't have a door on it's vault, or any forms of security whatsoever, would you walk in and take out all the money? Even if you proceeded directly to the local police department to report the security flaw and deliver the unguarded money, you'd find yourself in quite a bit of trouble.
I'm cheap and I'd rather not pay for content I have no interest in using. Especially in this instance, where that extra content is virtually identical to the extra content I already purchased two years ago.
Probably a losing battle though, in the age of full-retail-price map packs for Call of Modern Battlefield, and full-retail-price roster updates for Madden n+1
I just wish blizz would split Starcraft into the two games it clearly is : Single- and Multi-player.
I thoroughly enough the campaign missions, the overarching story, and everything else associated with the single player mode, but have zero interest in multiplayer. I've got plenty of other PvP games. I'd wager that there are plenty of people in my camp, as well as people who never touch the campaign, instead favoring multiplayer.
If anything, we just need a more organized boycott method.
Sure, most of the fine folk here on/. know about DRM, why it's bad, and how to look for good games without it... I fear the majority of the gaming populace has very little insight or knowledge on the subject matter. Especially these days, now that the Wii and it's ilk have expanded "casual gaming" to just about every nook and cranny (and granny) of the populace.
SimCity is a perfect storm of problems too, which can be used as an example. It's a popular name brand that most people know. It's marketed toward casual gamers. And the launch was absolutely crippled by the DRM.
I'm not exactly sure how to broach the subject, or spread the word. Maybe some of the more social-network-inclined people around here can help with that... but until knowledge is spread, bad games and horrible business practices will continue
Just playing devil's advocate here, but I would argue that we cannot conclusively prove that we humans are causing global warming. We certainly didn't cause the ice age.
That said, I do not disagree with most of the "green" things we're doing. Lowering CO2 emissions, electric cars, riding bicycles, plant a tree, etc... all very good things, in their own right.
... pretty sure that was GP's point. Most cities simply don't have viable mass transit in place. Especially if you live out in the suburbs, and especially especially for the use case presented : the elderly.
I know in my little SoCal suburb, the nearest transit stop is almost two miles away from my house. Factor in the distance from the drop off point to the actual destination, and you could easily walk 5 miles on a single round-trip bus ride. Asking a young, fit person to use that kind of mass transit on a daily basis is a stretch. Asking gramma and grampa to make that hike every day is pushing the boundaries of what's physically possible
Codecs already exist, so they clearly can not be the subject of a new patent. We obviously have a brand new concept, the likes of which has never been seen before : All hail endec!
Can't speak for Origin (as I don't use it) but at least Steam provides a lot of benefits to outweigh the DRM inherent.
I will never misplace or damage a game disk, I don't have to put the CD in to play a game (or swap everytime I change games) I can effortlessly install any or all of my steam games on a new computer, and of course Steam Sales! Plus Steam also provides their own in-game chat, achivement trackers, and a ton of other little things.
This. This is how you DRM. Steam's DRM is fairly unobtrusive. Just a quick check-in at start, and away you go... and it provides plenty of benefits. EA, on the other hand, has demonstrated exactly how NOTto DRM.
You're thinking of wasps. Bees are actually pretty friendly, and will mind their own business for the most part. Wasps will chase you down, stab you repeatedly, and then they'll go to work on your family and loved ones.
I never understood this argument... turning our clocks back and forth doesn't actually change the amount of sunlight per day. Just moves the hour from morning to evening, and back.
If you have a job that requires sunlight late in the day, just wake up an hour earlier. Does a farmer get more daylight hours working from 7am - 8pm, as opposed to working 6am - 7pm?
You're giving *FAR* too much credit to the post office, and business practice in general
I suspect that the USPS arrived at those prices because some lobbyists bought the proper amount of hookers and blow for the USPS upper management. You talk about conflict of interest like it's something to be avoided. Right now, conflict of interest is standard operating procedure for big business and government.
But it wouldn't cost the spammers anything, just like snail mail
Right now, you and I pay $0.46 per letter we want to send. How much do you think PennySaver, Best Buy, etc pay to send you spam? Check out the USPS Price List, paying special attention to page 28. You'll notice that bulk mail classified as Carrier Route, Saturation mail costs the sender $0.032. Just a bit over three freaking pennies.
If the USPS wants to make more money, charge Snail-Mail spammers full stamp price.
This is partly true. Sure, if I sell you my old digital copy of Harry Potter, it won't suffer any physical damage like a real book... but you're still a decade behind the times. Value is more than the physical condition of an item.
The hard part (from a copyright-holder perspective) is ensuring loss on the part of a seller. If I sell a physical item, I no longer have the item. If I make a copy of my ebook, well now we both have a copy.
You're assuming far to much common sense be applied here. If we allow that kind of thinking to grow, what are the thousands of loophole abusing lawyers and congress critters supposed to do? Get real jobs??
Ironically, both tie into their "old world" mentality: Women should shut up and stay in the kitchen, and you should get off my lawn
Meanwhile the rest of the country is trying to be "progressive" in both categories. Women have rights, and big brother is installing video cameras on your lawn.
Dropping your Vocab-word-of-the-day, decennia, to try and sound smart (especially when the much more common 'decades' would perfectly suffice)... then misspelling ridiculous 3 words later.
Bingo.
There are enough people cruising the web who would use this information for nefarious purposes, that even if weev had strict White Hat intentions with the data found, it looks suspicious, and gets his ass over 3 years in prison.
There've been pedicabs in downtown San Diego for years now, at least in the areas I frequent. AFAIK, they don't have any coordinated cell phone texting app... they just hang out by the parking structures early on in the evening, and closer to the bars later in the evening. They cruise around with a big inviting empty seat and pick up sore-footed drinkers.
I've never utilized their services myself, but they've always been readily available anytime I'm in the Gaslamp.
What if you buy a car? No leasing, no financing... cash money straight up.
Now you own the car, and it's still illegal to modify it. Want to install new headers? Dual Carbs? Conversion to biodiesel ... all illegal in your car analogy. And if the car breaks down, you can either buy a new one, or use the old one offroad only.
P.S. on the subject of cars, don't even bring up the concept of "Street legal." The state has set certain rules and restrictions to limit the amount and severity of modifications you can make to a car. Those laws do not prevent you from making any changes whatsoever, only from making drastic changes that specifically endanger other drivers or the environment. Switching my phone from ATT to Verizon doesn't endanger anything, except a CEOs bottom line.
Sounds like the "too big to fail" mindset. We must keep single and multi together, because they'd obviously fail if we broke them up.
To that, I say "good." Split them up, let them each stand on their own merit and evolve in their own direction. If they can't stand on their own, then they deserve to crash. It happened to Warcraft, and now we have WoW and DotA. Not saying either of those are perfect solutions, but letting those two games evolve on their own spawned a whole new genre (MOBAs) and redefined an existing genre (MMORPGs).
Keeping the two together is why we use the term DotA and not AoS
The fuss is about more than just phones, though phones are included. And right now, it's illegal to hack your phone, even after those 24 months are up, or even if you don't buy a contract. If I walked into an Apple store right now, paid $650 for a new iPhone outright... it would still be illegal to unlock it to work on any network.
The fuss is also about digital media. As another poster up higher elaborated on (it's +5, you should be able to find it easily) it's illegal to take a CD or DVD that you purchased, and copy the files to your own computer. Note : I'm not talking about sharing it with others or downloading it from the interwebz, or anything else. It's illegal to copy your own stuff from 1 place to another.
The fuss is also about video game consoles. Once you buy the console, it is illegal to mess around with the internal components. A few years back, a group of people figured out how to install Linux on their Playstations. Sony's response was to remotely brick the hardware, effectively destroying hardware that these people bought and paid for. This would be like Ford or Chevy blowing up your car if they didn't approve of the color you painted it, or if you didn't use Ford/Chevy brand spark plugs in an upgrade
The fuss is about a lot of things... but mostly it's about how this practice is becoming MORE pervasive, and becoming more accepted. Ten years ago, Sony's rootkit was a huge ordeal and earned the company a massive black eye. These days, they sort of thing would be standard practice.
Meatspace analogy :
If a bank didn't have a door on it's vault, or any forms of security whatsoever, would you walk in and take out all the money? Even if you proceeded directly to the local police department to report the security flaw and deliver the unguarded money, you'd find yourself in quite a bit of trouble.
The issue here is cost
I'm cheap and I'd rather not pay for content I have no interest in using. Especially in this instance, where that extra content is virtually identical to the extra content I already purchased two years ago.
Probably a losing battle though, in the age of full-retail-price map packs for Call of Modern Battlefield, and full-retail-price roster updates for Madden n+1
I just wish blizz would split Starcraft into the two games it clearly is : Single- and Multi-player.
I thoroughly enough the campaign missions, the overarching story, and everything else associated with the single player mode, but have zero interest in multiplayer. I've got plenty of other PvP games. I'd wager that there are plenty of people in my camp, as well as people who never touch the campaign, instead favoring multiplayer.
If anything, we just need a more organized boycott method.
Sure, most of the fine folk here on /. know about DRM, why it's bad, and how to look for good games without it ... I fear the majority of the gaming populace has very little insight or knowledge on the subject matter. Especially these days, now that the Wii and it's ilk have expanded "casual gaming" to just about every nook and cranny (and granny) of the populace.
SimCity is a perfect storm of problems too, which can be used as an example. It's a popular name brand that most people know. It's marketed toward casual gamers. And the launch was absolutely crippled by the DRM.
I'm not exactly sure how to broach the subject, or spread the word. Maybe some of the more social-network-inclined people around here can help with that... but until knowledge is spread, bad games and horrible business practices will continue
Just playing devil's advocate here, but I would argue that we cannot conclusively prove that we humans are causing global warming. We certainly didn't cause the ice age.
That said, I do not disagree with most of the "green" things we're doing. Lowering CO2 emissions, electric cars, riding bicycles, plant a tree, etc ... all very good things, in their own right.
... pretty sure that was GP's point. Most cities simply don't have viable mass transit in place. Especially if you live out in the suburbs, and especially especially for the use case presented : the elderly.
I know in my little SoCal suburb, the nearest transit stop is almost two miles away from my house. Factor in the distance from the drop off point to the actual destination, and you could easily walk 5 miles on a single round-trip bus ride. Asking a young, fit person to use that kind of mass transit on a daily basis is a stretch. Asking gramma and grampa to make that hike every day is pushing the boundaries of what's physically possible
False.
Codecs already exist, so they clearly can not be the subject of a new patent. We obviously have a brand new concept, the likes of which has never been seen before : All hail endec!
Can't speak for Origin (as I don't use it) but at least Steam provides a lot of benefits to outweigh the DRM inherent. I will never misplace or damage a game disk, I don't have to put the CD in to play a game (or swap everytime I change games) I can effortlessly install any or all of my steam games on a new computer, and of course Steam Sales! Plus Steam also provides their own in-game chat, achivement trackers, and a ton of other little things. This. This is how you DRM. Steam's DRM is fairly unobtrusive. Just a quick check-in at start, and away you go ... and it provides plenty of benefits. EA, on the other hand, has demonstrated exactly how NOTto DRM.
Next we'll outlaw alcohol, so that we eliminate all DUIs.
I've got no problems with adopting it permanently... just pick one and stick with it, imo.
You're thinking of wasps. Bees are actually pretty friendly, and will mind their own business for the most part. Wasps will chase you down, stab you repeatedly, and then they'll go to work on your family and loved ones.
I never understood this argument... turning our clocks back and forth doesn't actually change the amount of sunlight per day. Just moves the hour from morning to evening, and back.
If you have a job that requires sunlight late in the day, just wake up an hour earlier. Does a farmer get more daylight hours working from 7am - 8pm, as opposed to working 6am - 7pm?
You're giving *FAR* too much credit to the post office, and business practice in general
I suspect that the USPS arrived at those prices because some lobbyists bought the proper amount of hookers and blow for the USPS upper management. You talk about conflict of interest like it's something to be avoided. Right now, conflict of interest is standard operating procedure for big business and government.
But it wouldn't cost the spammers anything, just like snail mail
Right now, you and I pay $0.46 per letter we want to send. How much do you think PennySaver, Best Buy, etc pay to send you spam? Check out the USPS Price List, paying special attention to page 28. You'll notice that bulk mail classified as Carrier Route, Saturation mail costs the sender $0.032. Just a bit over three freaking pennies.
If the USPS wants to make more money, charge Snail-Mail spammers full stamp price.
This is partly true. Sure, if I sell you my old digital copy of Harry Potter, it won't suffer any physical damage like a real book ... but you're still a decade behind the times. Value is more than the physical condition of an item.
The hard part (from a copyright-holder perspective) is ensuring loss on the part of a seller. If I sell a physical item, I no longer have the item. If I make a copy of my ebook, well now we both have a copy.
Quoth Agent K : A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
Politicians, and political pundits are just very very people.
You're assuming far to much common sense be applied here. If we allow that kind of thinking to grow, what are the thousands of loophole abusing lawyers and congress critters supposed to do? Get real jobs??
I agree. We should never generalize. It's always the wrong thing to do...
Ironically, both tie into their "old world" mentality: Women should shut up and stay in the kitchen, and you should get off my lawn
Meanwhile the rest of the country is trying to be "progressive" in both categories. Women have rights, and big brother is installing video cameras on your lawn.
Define irony:
Dropping your Vocab-word-of-the-day, decennia, to try and sound smart (especially when the much more common 'decades' would perfectly suffice) ... then misspelling ridiculous 3 words later.