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Hey -- i'm not trying knock ya. Just saying maybe things have changed. you should try the new ubuntu liveCD so you can poke around. I've been using debian since 1997. I switch to Ubuntu when warty came out. It is based on debian sid (so it is very up to date) and is very end-user oriented.
It is still being polished up, but it is good enough for my very un-tech savvy parents. Especially when, like you say, they don't do much with it. I have a "web browser" link on the desktop, a "email" icon, and a "word processor" icon. And, to convert my mother, who loves Spider (the MS version,) I installed the firefox extension. hehe.
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agreed -- if it was shit ppl wouldn't want it. not exactly the market-leaders-leads-due-to-product-superiority, but better than every-product-is-better-than-the-market-leader.
i want to say though, that i doubt my mother could set up windows XP. i don't know anything about the OSX install, so i can't speak to that. but my mother _uses_ a already setup ubuntu box. so it is at least usable once it is set up.
but i'd also say that it would take quite a shitty product for people to leave what they know. i mean, the virus management on windows is a nightmare. but interoperability and familiarity (and cost) are keeping then with what they know.
that's why firefox has taken off but other competing products can't -- it is basically 100% interoperable, mostly familiar, and better.
unfortunately, linux doesn't get the same chance -- the popular web standards are largely open. the popular desktop standards aren't.
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I think that they release pretty good products.
Then why did you change it so much?
And rebuttals to your points:
1) You can use themes in gnu/linux too. (i'm sure you can with OSX, too, but I've been exclusively linux since 1997 so I don't know.) 2) linux has a hell of a lot of nice browsers. Some are lightweight, some are heavier. I don't know a lot about litestep, but I doubt that something very similar doesn't exist in the linux world 3) XFCE has a dock. GNOME can have a dock. A bunch of other WMs/DEs can have docks. 4) It's free
You haven't said how windows is better, only that is has "more games and apps." That's a valid argument -- if you have some device that isn't supported in linux, or some game/app that only runs in windows then the choice is yours. But you didn't list any of those.
It seems hireing Firefox developers is the new fad. Google just picked up a few, and if I rember correctly, there's no shortage of other companies who have one or two.
I doubt it, considerting that there are less than ten dedicated mozilla developers. I want to say there may only be five.
i think the point is that the profit margin for good will be tiny. and if it is tiny, you have no money for R&D so you can differentiate yourself. services doesn't yet have that issue.
I don't think it is a necessary human reaction, though. there are plenty of people who find that stuff repulsive. i think the proportion of such dissenters is different in every country. maybe we have so many people who love this crap because we are so obsessed with competition that we love it when people fail.
well -- i don't know if that would really be "artificial," then, since that is how many islands are formed, especially along convergent plate boundries. it is exactly as happens it happens with "hot spots." the issue would be making the hole large enough and keeping the hole open, since it would fill up pretty quickly and just make a little mountain under the sea.
We are known for our graduate schools, especially.
I wouldn't say that the youth are any more well rounded, though. While it is hard to measure since "roundedness" is somewhat cultural, I have found that American kids aren't terribly well rounded. When I came back to America when I was 15 I was surprised to find that there was so much depression, obsession with cloths and fitting in, etc. I had not seen as much of that before I came back.
I will say that they generally have a broader education, though. (Even if it is a pretty weak one.)
I also dislike it when people who don't have authority speak as if they do. I think, though, that there needs to be a great allowance for people who don't have authority to question those who do. that's why i asked my questions -- to get answers from people, like you, who have some authority (it seems)
that's why i had the disclaimer, "I am not a lawyer" and was only throwing in some speculation as to what the logic of the argument might be. i am sorry i did not make my lack of authority clear enough.
I don't know if people do have that right. I'm not a lawyer.
Is it legal for me to give you a mixtape or CD i made for a road trip? I don't know. But if it is, then isn't it legal for me to connect to you directly (peer 2 peer) and send you the CD image?
I think the fight for p2p isn't about being allowed to use illegally. It is about it not being an illegal technology because it can be used legally. Certainly distributing debian ISOs using BitTorrent is legal, for instance.
The world is a interconnected place. More so all the time. We don't really have choices as to who we will work with and who we won't work with. This is more true the larger/richer/more powerful and influential the country is.
i think this is a good thing. there are too many weird ideas floating around among different world populations. i hope having to deal with them will spread the idea of ethnorelativism around some.
also, regardless of your opinion of the government, there are still 1.3 billion people who shouldn't be excluded from the global dialogue. if you want to change the government, then find ways to increase financial stability, social mobility and general education.
"social entrepreneurship" is a good place to start -- C.K. Prahalad has some good articles and books on it from a macro level. There are also many sources for learning how to do it on a microlevel. northsouthdev.org is one micro-level institution in nigeria doing social entrepreneurship. it was started by a Brit with 50,000 dollars. It has helped something like 1000 nigerians contribute to the economy. Micro Financing Institutes like his help local entrepreneurs who don't have the collateral to go to a normal bank get loans to start businesses. He has had a 0% default rate on the loans and has made a lot of money helping people.
With financial stability, social mobility and quality education, change in the government can happen. If these "democratic norms" don't exist, any government that was more free would have a serious likelihood of collapse.
I spent seven years in China. It is a wonderful place. I don't approve of everything the Chinese government does, but I do think that they are managing the economy well. I think that China will become an increasingly free country over the next 45 years.
It is important to understand that different peoples want different types of lives. The Chinese don't dream of an American life. They would not want to obsess over politics as much. In fact, the interest in politics would be so low if there was a democractic government put in place now, it would collapse or be twice as corrupt for that lack of interest alone. That's one of the reasons why Russia's government has regressed. That's why a lot of new democracies regress. Without the democratic norms already being in place, democracy fails one way or another.
I highly doubt that this really the big concession that the ZDNet blog says it is.
Ah, but it is. Admitting that people have _any_ rights to their purchase (other than listening to it in its original form) is a big step. After all, you can't argue that you have the right to share something legally until you have crossed the very basic step of establishing that you have the right to do something with it besides listen to it on the original medium.
you are very correct -- i should have said, "congress along with many other religious conservatives." or something like that, at least.
i do actually know conservatives. it's amazing how little the conservative political bodies represent what has historically been conservatism.
but you have to admit, "conservatives," when popularly used, usually implies Bushes, Delays, O'Reillys, Hannity, etc.
i actually speak to "conservatives" frequently about those conservatives you mentioned. and i tell them to read the WSJ. I (and my conservative girlfriend -- though i'm a liberal) read it and the ny times daily (at least the editorials in both daily. i usually read the news from ny times.)
i was telling myself five minutes after i hit submit that i should have been less flame-like. but its been a long day and i just had to say it.
Exactly. Otherwise you could have most of your workers in Texas while you have a great location in manhattan. no benefits? the benefit is the location and all amenities NY provides that allows it to be successful.
is that the employee's concern? is it NY's business to care about the employee and not just the business? it is when the office is staffed minimally but employs 500 people out of state who don't pay taxes. then NY is getting taxes from other business's and their employees but next to nothing from this one
Good god, shut up. Every time a conservative uses the term "judicial activism", gay marriage or otherwise, they use it to describe judges who use court rulings ideological goals rather than rule on the basis of law and precedent.
but somehow they want activist judges, by your definition, to rule in favor of terri.
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Hey -- i'm not trying knock ya. Just saying maybe things have changed. you should try the new ubuntu liveCD so you can poke around. I've been using debian since 1997. I switch to Ubuntu when warty came out. It is based on debian sid (so it is very up to date) and is very end-user oriented.
It is still being polished up, but it is good enough for my very un-tech savvy parents. Especially when, like you say, they don't do much with it. I have a "web browser" link on the desktop, a "email" icon, and a "word processor" icon. And, to convert my mother, who loves Spider (the MS version,) I installed the firefox extension. hehe.
agreed -- if it was shit ppl wouldn't want it. not exactly the market-leaders-leads-due-to-product-superiority, but better than every-product-is-better-than-the-market-leader.
i want to say though, that i doubt my mother could set up windows XP. i don't know anything about the OSX install, so i can't speak to that. but my mother _uses_ a already setup ubuntu box. so it is at least usable once it is set up.
but i'd also say that it would take quite a shitty product for people to leave what they know. i mean, the virus management on windows is a nightmare. but interoperability and familiarity (and cost) are keeping then with what they know.
that's why firefox has taken off but other competing products can't -- it is basically 100% interoperable, mostly familiar, and better.
unfortunately, linux doesn't get the same chance -- the popular web standards are largely open. the popular desktop standards aren't.
I think that they release pretty good products.
Then why did you change it so much?
And rebuttals to your points:
1) You can use themes in gnu/linux too. (i'm sure you can with OSX, too, but I've been exclusively linux since 1997 so I don't know.)
2) linux has a hell of a lot of nice browsers. Some are lightweight, some are heavier. I don't know a lot about litestep, but I doubt that something very similar doesn't exist in the linux world
3) XFCE has a dock. GNOME can have a dock. A bunch of other WMs/DEs can have docks.
4) It's free
You haven't said how windows is better, only that is has "more games and apps." That's a valid argument -- if you have some device that isn't supported in linux, or some game/app that only runs in windows then the choice is yours. But you didn't list any of those.
It seems hireing Firefox developers is the new fad. Google just picked up a few, and if I rember correctly, there's no shortage of other companies who have one or two.
I doubt it, considerting that there are less than ten dedicated mozilla developers. I want to say there may only be five.
i think the point is that the profit margin for good will be tiny. and if it is tiny, you have no money for R&D so you can differentiate yourself. services doesn't yet have that issue.
if what you're doing with the other hand is only twice as fun as typing then you're doing something wrong...
I don't think it is a necessary human reaction, though. there are plenty of people who find that stuff repulsive. i think the proportion of such dissenters is different in every country. maybe we have so many people who love this crap because we are so obsessed with competition that we love it when people fail.
well -- i don't know if that would really be "artificial," then, since that is how many islands are formed, especially along convergent plate boundries. it is exactly as happens it happens with "hot spots." the issue would be making the hole large enough and keeping the hole open, since it would fill up pretty quickly and just make a little mountain under the sea.
We are known for our graduate schools, especially.
I wouldn't say that the youth are any more well rounded, though. While it is hard to measure since "roundedness" is somewhat cultural, I have found that American kids aren't terribly well rounded. When I came back to America when I was 15 I was surprised to find that there was so much depression, obsession with cloths and fitting in, etc. I had not seen as much of that before I came back.
I will say that they generally have a broader education, though. (Even if it is a pretty weak one.)
the default doesn't have universe and multiverse repositories set up. you can find out how to add them on the website wiki.
/etc/apt/sources.list next to the universe and multiverse lines and sudo apt-get update
:)
i think you can just get rid of the hash in the
i can't say whether he default to "no" is a mistake in the installer or by you -- i have been using hoary since shortly after warty came out.
but you can do this:
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
it will download and install a tremendous # of packages and all will be happy.
Mandriva is now merged with conectiva, which funds ubuntu. is this a novell novell/suse/ximian thing?
is the difference in supporting distros with different packaging systems really that minimal?
and keep the radiation to a minimum...
and check for loose wires.
maybe my ubuntu hoary system is patched? or this doesn't affect linux?
I also dislike it when people who don't have authority speak as if they do. I think, though, that there needs to be a great allowance for people who don't have authority to question those who do. that's why i asked my questions -- to get answers from people, like you, who have some authority (it seems)
that's why i had the disclaimer, "I am not a lawyer" and was only throwing in some speculation as to what the logic of the argument might be. i am sorry i did not make my lack of authority clear enough.
I don't know if people do have that right. I'm not a lawyer.
Is it legal for me to give you a mixtape or CD i made for a road trip? I don't know. But if it is, then isn't it legal for me to connect to you directly (peer 2 peer) and send you the CD image?
I think the fight for p2p isn't about being allowed to use illegally. It is about it not being an illegal technology because it can be used legally. Certainly distributing debian ISOs using BitTorrent is legal, for instance.
The world is a interconnected place. More so all the time. We don't really have choices as to who we will work with and who we won't work with. This is more true the larger/richer/more powerful and influential the country is.
i think this is a good thing. there are too many weird ideas floating around among different world populations. i hope having to deal with them will spread the idea of ethnorelativism around some.
also, regardless of your opinion of the government, there are still 1.3 billion people who shouldn't be excluded from the global dialogue. if you want to change the government, then find ways to increase financial stability, social mobility and general education.
"social entrepreneurship" is a good place to start -- C.K. Prahalad has some good articles and books on it from a macro level. There are also many sources for learning how to do it on a microlevel. northsouthdev.org is one micro-level institution in nigeria doing social entrepreneurship. it was started by a Brit with 50,000 dollars. It has helped something like 1000 nigerians contribute to the economy. Micro Financing Institutes like his help local entrepreneurs who don't have the collateral to go to a normal bank get loans to start businesses. He has had a 0% default rate on the loans and has made a lot of money helping people.
With financial stability, social mobility and quality education, change in the government can happen. If these "democratic norms" don't exist, any government that was more free would have a serious likelihood of collapse.
I spent seven years in China. It is a wonderful place. I don't approve of everything the Chinese government does, but I do think that they are managing the economy well. I think that China will become an increasingly free country over the next 45 years.
It is important to understand that different peoples want different types of lives. The Chinese don't dream of an American life. They would not want to obsess over politics as much. In fact, the interest in politics would be so low if there was a democractic government put in place now, it would collapse or be twice as corrupt for that lack of interest alone. That's one of the reasons why Russia's government has regressed. That's why a lot of new democracies regress. Without the democratic norms already being in place, democracy fails one way or another.
I highly doubt that this really the big concession that the ZDNet blog says it is.
Ah, but it is. Admitting that people have _any_ rights to their purchase (other than listening to it in its original form) is a big step. After all, you can't argue that you have the right to share something legally until you have crossed the very basic step of establishing that you have the right to do something with it besides listen to it on the original medium.
i saw it a few days ago. might be real.
you are very correct -- i should have said, "congress along with many other religious conservatives." or something like that, at least.
i do actually know conservatives. it's amazing how little the conservative political bodies represent what has historically been conservatism.
but you have to admit, "conservatives," when popularly used, usually implies Bushes, Delays, O'Reillys, Hannity, etc.
i actually speak to "conservatives" frequently about those conservatives you mentioned. and i tell them to read the WSJ. I (and my conservative girlfriend -- though i'm a liberal) read it and the ny times daily (at least the editorials in both daily. i usually read the news from ny times.)
i was telling myself five minutes after i hit submit that i should have been less flame-like. but its been a long day and i just had to say it.
Exactly. Otherwise you could have most of your workers in Texas while you have a great location in manhattan. no benefits? the benefit is the location and all amenities NY provides that allows it to be successful.
is that the employee's concern? is it NY's business to care about the employee and not just the business? it is when the office is staffed minimally but employs 500 people out of state who don't pay taxes. then NY is getting taxes from other business's and their employees but next to nothing from this one
Good god, shut up. Every time a conservative uses the term "judicial activism", gay marriage or otherwise, they use it to describe judges who use court rulings ideological goals rather than rule on the basis of law and precedent.
but somehow they want activist judges, by your definition, to rule in favor of terri.
the logic isn't that it will certainly cause YOU to do it, but that it will increase the chances of the population who plays it doing it.
sort of how a song preaching racial hatred can lead to racial violence, even if only for 2% of the people who listen to it.
...that's like posting free porn.
I don't know if it is good or bad when "X Window Eye Candy" is like porn...
Just seems that it would allow people to gamble their money away (since most lose) as recreation and then get a benefit (a tax write-off) with it.
people don't get to write off the money they spend at Disney.
Am I missing something?