I do wish people would stop opening these sites and saying that only people from one particular country are allowed to use them. What happened to the Internet being an International resource?
"They don't hack the kernel or mount file systems or whatever you and your roomate occupy your time with."
What do you think happens every time you put a CD or floppy disk in the drive and it's icon appears on your desktop (or in My Computer or wherever your vendor decides it will be hidden away)?
If you're going to bring the discussion to that level,
Referring to a previous post... There are some things that Windows can't do today (although I'd be really happy if someone can find a way to make it happen):
"Particularly the support of remote filesystem browsing through SSH. And I don't mean like Secure iXplore does - I mean properly integrated with the File Open/Save dialogs of all applications and the file manager."
In the UK, licence is the noun, and license is the verb. Just like Canada. I think it may also be the same in Australia. I'd be surprised if the US is any different.
Yes, I must say it is a bit disconcerting to see a blue screen of death when standing in an airport's departure lounge, thinking "the people who choose the software to run their aircraft-related systems on chose THIS!".
Haha, yeah if this problem was on Unix or similar OSes, you'd just run the network client app with "truss -D" (or equivalent) and you can tell from the output what's causing it to take ages.
Ok, the desktop icon thing is just a matter of getting used to it (but still means it takes a bit of time for people who have been using Win 2k since it came out).
As for the pop-up windows (look like speach bubbles)... I get one about every 10 mins reminding me to either: enable automatic windows updates, or sign up to MSN. I've got an ISP and an IM client, so don't need MSN. And I'm behind a firewall and don't use software that I don't trust, so really don't care that much about Windows updates (the machine seems perfectly stable as it is - why whould I want to potentially break it?)
I feel that for the control panel, the KDE team have made a much better job of it. The main control panel contains several sections, each of which contains related control panels. Microsoft was almost there with Windows 2000, where they had some sub-folders in the Control Panel, but with XP, they have this weird mixture of "Tasks" and "Control Panel Icons", some of which appear to be yet more folders of settings. Navigating through KDE's tree view of settings seems much easier, but that's maybe just beacuse I'm more used to it.
I too would love to know why the command prompt window has the old-style title bar. It just looks very out of place. Microsoft Interix/SFU windows and Cygwin windows have the same title bar.
Of course we have the braindamaged idea that deleting an open file is impossible. Just unlink it. It's worked fine for years and years in other filesystems -- get with the program. I don't want to hunt down every process that might have something open when trying to trash a large directory. Just get rid of it.
I agree that's a silly idea. Supposedly Interix (or SFU3) gives you a compatability layer that allows you to compile Unix apps on your Windows box, and have them act like they're in a Unix environment. Despite having it's own I/O layer (to get round problems of Windows's filesystem), it still can't delete some open files. It's okay with files opened with open() but not if they're opened and then mmap()'d. I don't know of any other OS where this causes a problem.
I have a dual boot with Redhat 9 and Windows XP. I'll reconsider using Windows more when it catches up with some of the points that comment mentions. Particularly the support of remote filesystem browsing through SSH. And I don't mean like Secure iXplore does - I mean properly integrated with the File Open/Save dialogs of all applications and the file manager.
Some things that KDE definitely has the lead with:
The fish:// protocol. Being able to browse remote computers' filesystems through SSH is increasingly important in a world where firewalls are being implemented and security is being tightened. I require to use it every day that I work from home. And it doens't require any additional software.
The audiocd:// protocol. Being able to insert a CD that I bought, and drag and drop the audio tracks on to my home directory (while they're automatically turned into MP3 or OGG) is very convenient - and again, doesn't require any additional software.
Having a text editor that has the option of doing nice things like syntax highlighting, auto-indentation, etc. (Okay, this will only be good for "power users", but still I don't require to install anything extra to get it).
The ability to add applets to the panel and choose from a decent selection of pre-installed ones like the Dictionary applet. This is useful for any user who types documents.
The thing I've noticed about other responses to the parent is people suggesting URLs to get software from that mimics some of the stuff KDE already does. The brilliant thing about KDE is that it already does it - a lot of people don't want to go and hunt for software to do these things. I know a lot of people who wouldn't have even thought of these features unless it came with their desktop environment, and would miss them if then had to use another environment.
I found going from KDE 2 to KDE 3 much easier than going from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. They seem to have re-arranged some things in XP purely because they felt like it, instead of making it easier to use. They've removed icons from the desktop that people are used to, annoying "pop up" windos appear next to the clock every 5 minutes, the control panel is re-arranged in a way that hides the more important controls away from the user (computer management console, security settings, changing the colour of your desktop or widgets) and they've changed the theme for most applications but left the old Windows 2000 window titlebar theme for others (e.g. Command Prompt).
These things make it more confusing to use than Windows 2000 for someone who's used to Windows 2000. The new locations of these things, and the changes they've made, make things less intuitive.
I wouldn't say it gives anyone (except infrequent computer users) a "hard" time, but it certainly is less intuitive than its predecessors.
KDE's advanements appear to be making it simper to use, and the article agrees with that opinion.
The first time XP looks for shares on a machine, it tries to get a list of "scheduled tasks". It will keep on trying for 10 to 30 seconds, even if the remote machine doesn't tell it any.
To solve this, open Regedit and go to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Curr ent Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace
and delete this entry from there:
{D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}
This will cause XP not to bother waiting on the list of scheduled tasks. We had the same problem at work and that solved it. Looks like another instance of a software company adding bloat that causes more problems than it fixes.
From your link, "Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland". He was born in Scotland so he was Scottish. He only lived in Canada.
(From Wordnet: Nationality (n): the status of belonging to a particular nation by birth).
The article uses the phrase "trusted systems". From what I've seen of XP and Longhorn, they're not Trusted systems. This is a trusted operating system. Does XP or Longhorn prevent users who don't have high enough security clearance from copying (using software) text from a document they are reading? This is what Trusted Operating Systems are all about - preventing people who don't have appropriate security clearance from gaining access to information they shouldn't be allowed to see, and preventing people from making data on the system available to others.
i don't think this will make a noticeable difference to Redhat's revenue. Isn't their biggest source of income their corporate customers? i.e. those buying things like Enterprise Edition with a support contract?
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I do wish people would stop opening these sites and saying that only people from one particular country are allowed to use them. What happened to the Internet being an International resource?
"They don't hack the kernel or mount file systems or whatever you and your roomate occupy your time with."
What do you think happens every time you put a CD or floppy disk in the drive and it's icon appears on your desktop (or in My Computer or wherever your vendor decides it will be hidden away)?
It gets mounted.
If you're going to bring the discussion to that level,
Referring to a previous post... There are some things that Windows can't do today (although I'd be really happy if someone can find a way to make it happen):
"Particularly the support of remote filesystem browsing through SSH. And I don't mean like Secure iXplore does - I mean properly integrated with the File Open/Save dialogs of all applications and the file manager."
This one's funnier, and reflects a period of time after IBM counter-sued.
In the UK, licence is the noun, and license is the verb. Just like Canada. I think it may also be the same in Australia. I'd be surprised if the US is any different.
Yes, I must say it is a bit disconcerting to see a blue screen of death when standing in an airport's departure lounge, thinking "the people who choose the software to run their aircraft-related systems on chose THIS!".
to properly license SCO's IP
;-)
I thought it was Al Gore who invented IP?
"system international to US" - that just doesn't sound right. It's either a US thing or an International thing.
Haha, yeah if this problem was on Unix or similar OSes, you'd just run the network client app with "truss -D" (or equivalent) and you can tell from the output what's causing it to take ages.
Is there a Windows equivalent of this?
Ok, the desktop icon thing is just a matter of getting used to it (but still means it takes a bit of time for people who have been using Win 2k since it came out).
As for the pop-up windows (look like speach bubbles)... I get one about every 10 mins reminding me to either: enable automatic windows updates, or sign up to MSN. I've got an ISP and an IM client, so don't need MSN. And I'm behind a firewall and don't use software that I don't trust, so really don't care that much about Windows updates (the machine seems perfectly stable as it is - why whould I want to potentially break it?)
I feel that for the control panel, the KDE team have made a much better job of it. The main control panel contains several sections, each of which contains related control panels. Microsoft was almost there with Windows 2000, where they had some sub-folders in the Control Panel, but with XP, they have this weird mixture of "Tasks" and "Control Panel Icons", some of which appear to be yet more folders of settings. Navigating through KDE's tree view of settings seems much easier, but that's maybe just beacuse I'm more used to it.
I too would love to know why the command prompt window has the old-style title bar. It just looks very out of place. Microsoft Interix/SFU windows and Cygwin windows have the same title bar.
Of course we have the braindamaged idea that deleting an open file is impossible. Just unlink it. It's worked fine for years and years in other filesystems -- get with the program. I don't want to hunt down every process that might have something open when trying to trash a large directory. Just get rid of it.
I agree that's a silly idea. Supposedly Interix (or SFU3) gives you a compatability layer that allows you to compile Unix apps on your Windows box, and have them act like they're in a Unix environment. Despite having it's own I/O layer (to get round problems of Windows's filesystem), it still can't delete some open files. It's okay with files opened with open() but not if they're opened and then mmap()'d. I don't know of any other OS where this causes a problem.
They've already started doing innovative things.
I have a dual boot with Redhat 9 and Windows XP. I'll reconsider using Windows more when it catches up with some of the points that comment mentions. Particularly the support of remote filesystem browsing through SSH. And I don't mean like Secure iXplore does - I mean properly integrated with the File Open/Save dialogs of all applications and the file manager.
- The fish:// protocol. Being able to browse remote computers' filesystems through SSH is increasingly important in a world where firewalls are being implemented and security is being tightened. I require to use it every day that I work from home. And it doens't require any additional software.
- The audiocd:// protocol. Being able to insert a CD that I bought, and drag and drop the audio tracks on to my home directory (while they're automatically turned into MP3 or OGG) is very convenient - and again, doesn't require any additional software.
- Having a text editor that has the option of doing nice things like syntax highlighting, auto-indentation, etc. (Okay, this will only be good for "power users", but still I don't require to install anything extra to get it).
- The ability to add applets to the panel and choose from a decent selection of pre-installed ones like the Dictionary applet. This is useful for any user who types documents.
The thing I've noticed about other responses to the parent is people suggesting URLs to get software from that mimics some of the stuff KDE already does. The brilliant thing about KDE is that it already does it - a lot of people don't want to go and hunt for software to do these things. I know a lot of people who wouldn't have even thought of these features unless it came with their desktop environment, and would miss them if then had to use another environment.I found going from KDE 2 to KDE 3 much easier than going from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. They seem to have re-arranged some things in XP purely because they felt like it, instead of making it easier to use. They've removed icons from the desktop that people are used to, annoying "pop up" windos appear next to the clock every 5 minutes, the control panel is re-arranged in a way that hides the more important controls away from the user (computer management console, security settings, changing the colour of your desktop or widgets) and they've changed the theme for most applications but left the old Windows 2000 window titlebar theme for others (e.g. Command Prompt).
These things make it more confusing to use than Windows 2000 for someone who's used to Windows 2000. The new locations of these things, and the changes they've made, make things less intuitive.
I wouldn't say it gives anyone (except infrequent computer users) a "hard" time, but it certainly is less intuitive than its predecessors.
KDE's advanements appear to be making it simper to use, and the article agrees with that opinion.
The first time XP looks for shares on a machine, it tries to get a list of "scheduled tasks". It will keep on trying for 10 to 30 seconds, even if the remote machine doesn't tell it any.
r ent Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace
To solve this, open Regedit and go to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Cur
and delete this entry from there:
{D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}
This will cause XP not to bother waiting on the list of scheduled tasks. We had the same problem at work and that solved it. Looks like another instance of a software company adding bloat that causes more problems than it fixes.
Oops. Yeah, that's better, although both ways work.
Or even better:
#define FREE(x) if (x!=NULL) free(x);x=NULL;
That way you can't accidentally free the same memory twice, as might happen if you were being careless with memory in a loop.
This:
http://www.dawningusa.com/image\arrow-right.gif
is not a valid URL for the web as far as I know...
Maybe there's something wrong with your browser?
It's not surprising when things like these get past too:
- Patent 5,546,528 - Adobe patented "Tabbed palettes"
- Patent 6,499,344 - AOL patented instant messaging
I'm sure there must be a lot more silly software patents out there.
A Slashdot-approved secure zipper would stop Hot Grits getting in too.
From your link, "Alexander Graham Bell was born on March 3, 1847 in Edinburgh, Scotland". He was born in Scotland so he was Scottish. He only lived in Canada.
(From Wordnet: Nationality (n): the status of belonging to a particular nation by birth).
Nah, we find the Internet tends to be a bit faster ;-)
The article uses the phrase "trusted systems". From what I've seen of XP and Longhorn, they're not Trusted systems. This is a trusted operating system. Does XP or Longhorn prevent users who don't have high enough security clearance from copying (using software) text from a document they are reading? This is what Trusted Operating Systems are all about - preventing people who don't have appropriate security clearance from gaining access to information they shouldn't be allowed to see, and preventing people from making data on the system available to others.
Is zlib not GPL'd too? They use that in Mozilla too.
i don't think this will make a noticeable difference to Redhat's revenue. Isn't their biggest source of income their corporate customers? i.e. those buying things like Enterprise Edition with a support contract?