so you think a small woman with a knife is going to fend off a determined rapist. a firearm does a much better job of 1) making someone feel safer. With that feeling comes being more calm and level headed. 2) works much better than a knife one swing of a knife and thats it, you re done, person steps inside your attack and you are trapped. knives are very poor defensive weapons. Other options of pepper spray, are situational, can cause just as much harm to the user, and commercial pepper spray is not much better than pepper mixed with water. it is not the same strength as police pepper spray.
someone who is depressed over a low paying job and not being able to find another one i would call a mild case of depression, they have no one to project on other than themselves, they have no reason to kill their wife or kids.
now someone going through a divorce where their SO is taking everything. then there may be cause for alarm.
Do you know the reason to stay away from a motor vehicle ? its because it causes drowsiness, and poor motor skills. not because its going to make you deliberately drive into a group of people. Having a gun in the house while on these meds is not going to be an issue.
generally around here, if they come to us telling us to conserve they get told to pound sand. they allocated 90,000 liters of water to us, we paid for that much, we will use it.
actually had a co worker have a guy from the municipality drive around and told him to turn off his hose as he was watering his garden. He looked at the guy and said "There is 1 person living in this house, i pay the same amount per month as the family of 6 across the road, i will use as much water as i want, now fuck off" and put the hose down on his driveway still running and walked inside.
what the fuck is wrong with you ? Prove that mild depression is going to make this person kill himself or others. There are thousands upon thousands of people across the united states suffering from mild depression that never have any thoughts of killing themselves or others and are just, depressed.
So unless you can show that this person is a danger to others why would you take away his right to own a firearm ?
But all that seems to matter to these people on their conquest is that they aren't killing themselves with GUNS. and when that drops off (as seen in England) they will want a Knife registry. because GOD forbid someone kill themselves with a knife. because it is all those chefs killing people with knives.
Sorry, but mass shootings do not count as the VAST majority of people shooting others. in fact actual mass shootings in the united states accounted for less than 100 people.
You do realize that banning guns or making them harder to get changes the suicide statistics in no way ?
Australia had no change in Total suicides after their gun buy back.
And no, Mild Depression is not a reason to ban people from owning a firearm. If that were the case, they should be banned from drinking alcohol, or driving for that matter, as it makes it to easy for them to drive into a crowded street corner.
How do you stop Criminals from getting guns ? That is the problem, All these gun laws just make it harder for law abiding people to obtain a firearm. It makes it no harder for a criminal to get them.
It will never be reliable, Police wont accept the the use of a current handgun if it fails just once in 500 rounds. it goes back for a good cleaning, repair, parts replacement ETC.
It is because of that 1 in a million time that the gun WONT work that they wont use them.
The place i live now is a Flat rate unless i use more than 90SqM of water, then they charge me more (i can fill my swimming pool 3 times with that amount)
When i lived in the small city, they charged me as i used the water. no flat rate. my ater bill there was significantly smaller than where i live now. (like $30 a month, as opposed to $100 a month)
We would all agree that a Paranoid Schizophrenic, with Violent tendencies is mentally ill and should not own guns.
Would you say a Husband that is suffering from depression because he cant find a better job to make his families life better and went to the Dr about it. is he mentally ill ? i would say no. would the government ?
Id like to see your reasoning for the "Most shooters" part. MOST shooters are law abiding citizens that don't go around shooting street signs. With the number of gun owners in the united states if MOST went around shooting street signs and hydro transformers then it would be a mess out there as there wouldn't be a single sign you could read, and everyone would be without power.
The only suicides it will help prevent are those by firearm, and the ones that cant do it by firearm will find another way. Any place that has banned firearms saw no change in overall suicides.
Mine is flat rate for 3 months (unless i some how use more than 90SqM of water in those 3 months. (i could fill my swimming pool 3 times with that amount)
Or weld one up out of plumbing supplies, or in a machine shop. Much safer with both of those, and likely take less time. Because things like that never happen *cough* prisons *cough cough*
I have no real problem with refugees. The problem right now is. These "refugees" arent acting like it. Refugees should be thankful for what they get, thankful to be out of where they were. Not complaining about being cold, not having TV. And guilting countries into spending even more money building these people homes to live in.
If you are going to bitch about my hospitality in letting you in and giving you places to live and food. Then you can just fuck off back to the refugee camp.
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so you think a small woman with a knife is going to fend off a determined rapist. a firearm does a much better job of 1) making someone feel safer. With that feeling comes being more calm and level headed. 2) works much better than a knife one swing of a knife and thats it, you re done, person steps inside your attack and you are trapped. knives are very poor defensive weapons.
Other options of pepper spray, are situational, can cause just as much harm to the user, and commercial pepper spray is not much better than pepper mixed with water. it is not the same strength as police pepper spray.
Total suicides or suicides by firearm.
someone who is depressed over a low paying job and not being able to find another one i would call a mild case of depression, they have no one to project on other than themselves, they have no reason to kill their wife or kids.
now someone going through a divorce where their SO is taking everything. then there may be cause for alarm.
Do you know the reason to stay away from a motor vehicle ? its because it causes drowsiness, and poor motor skills. not because its going to make you deliberately drive into a group of people. Having a gun in the house while on these meds is not going to be an issue.
generally around here, if they come to us telling us to conserve they get told to pound sand. they allocated 90,000 liters of water to us, we paid for that much, we will use it.
actually had a co worker have a guy from the municipality drive around and told him to turn off his hose as he was watering his garden. He looked at the guy and said "There is 1 person living in this house, i pay the same amount per month as the family of 6 across the road, i will use as much water as i want, now fuck off" and put the hose down on his driveway still running and walked inside.
what the fuck is wrong with you ? Prove that mild depression is going to make this person kill himself or others. There are thousands upon thousands of people across the united states suffering from mild depression that never have any thoughts of killing themselves or others and are just, depressed.
So unless you can show that this person is a danger to others why would you take away his right to own a firearm ?
But all that seems to matter to these people on their conquest is that they aren't killing themselves with GUNS. and when that drops off (as seen in England) they will want a Knife registry. because GOD forbid someone kill themselves with a knife. because it is all those chefs killing people with knives.
Sorry, but mass shootings do not count as the VAST majority of people shooting others. in fact actual mass shootings in the united states accounted for less than 100 people.
You do realize that banning guns or making them harder to get changes the suicide statistics in no way ?
Australia had no change in Total suicides after their gun buy back.
And no, Mild Depression is not a reason to ban people from owning a firearm. If that were the case, they should be banned from drinking alcohol, or driving for that matter, as it makes it to easy for them to drive into a crowded street corner.
Also considering the Safety record of Civilians shooting badguys to Police shooting badguys.
Sure, you dont get a dozen people stabbed, you get hundreds of people stabbed, and dozens killed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...
Or one every month with several people killed each
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
How do you stop Criminals from getting guns ? That is the problem, All these gun laws just make it harder for law abiding people to obtain a firearm. It makes it no harder for a criminal to get them.
How about the Police actually enforce the laws in place instead of trying to make more laws to cover the ones NOT being enforced ?
It will never be reliable, Police wont accept the the use of a current handgun if it fails just once in 500 rounds. it goes back for a good cleaning, repair, parts replacement ETC.
It is because of that 1 in a million time that the gun WONT work that they wont use them.
And who will have access to this Broad Background check ? Just when people buy firearms ? or maybe when you want to get that new job ?
What will they put in there for mental illness ? mild depression ?
Depends on where you are.
The place i live now is a Flat rate unless i use more than 90SqM of water, then they charge me more (i can fill my swimming pool 3 times with that amount)
When i lived in the small city, they charged me as i used the water. no flat rate. my ater bill there was significantly smaller than where i live now. (like $30 a month, as opposed to $100 a month)
What do you consider mentally ill ?
We would all agree that a Paranoid Schizophrenic, with Violent tendencies is mentally ill and should not own guns.
Would you say a Husband that is suffering from depression because he cant find a better job to make his families life better and went to the Dr about it. is he mentally ill ? i would say no. would the government ?
Id like to see your reasoning for the "Most shooters" part. MOST shooters are law abiding citizens that don't go around shooting street signs. With the number of gun owners in the united states if MOST went around shooting street signs and hydro transformers then it would be a mess out there as there wouldn't be a single sign you could read, and everyone would be without power.
The only suicides it will help prevent are those by firearm, and the ones that cant do it by firearm will find another way. Any place that has banned firearms saw no change in overall suicides.
since the VAST VAST majority of people shooting others with guns don't go through legal channels to get firearms How is it going to help ?
While it is good in theory, In practice it is bad, What kind of mental illness are they going to fail a background check for ?.
in practice it is going to cause a lot more people who SHOULD be seeking help with mental illness to not get help.
Mine is flat rate for 3 months (unless i some how use more than 90SqM of water in those 3 months. (i could fill my swimming pool 3 times with that amount)
Free ? Really ? only time i see "free" water are houses with a Well. Anyone on town/city water have to pay for it. mine costs me $318 every quarter.
Or weld one up out of plumbing supplies, or in a machine shop. Much safer with both of those, and likely take less time. Because things like that never happen *cough* prisons *cough cough*
In the commission or a crime ?
Yeah tjhats what i thought. Kneejerk reactions to a non issue.
I have no real problem with refugees. The problem right now is. These "refugees" arent acting like it. Refugees should be thankful for what they get, thankful to be out of where they were. Not complaining about being cold, not having TV. And guilting countries into spending even more money building these people homes to live in.
If you are going to bitch about my hospitality in letting you in and giving you places to live and food. Then you can just fuck off back to the refugee camp.