I think a mixed name based / ip based web hosting solution would be best. Let the client decide which he/she wants and charge a little extra for having your own ip number.
That way, many people will _choose_ for the name based solution. It's a win either way.
Heh, these guys don't seem to be the smartest, no. They seem to be stupid kids or whatever to whom 'sex' is still a big deal, heh.. fun. No biggie.. move along now.
I'm a tad bit jealous of Adam, though (read the part about the female member);-)
Well, I've been a Red Hat user for quite a while.. even paid for a distro or two, but after the current interesting events I have decided to switch to another distribution.
The next distro I install will be Debian:-) Bye bye, buggy Red Hat.
Hhm.. that last comment applied to spammers in general (or at least the ones I had the misfortune to deal with), not to you. I don't know your background, your activities, what kind of person you are, etc. I'm sorry.. attacking you personally is not good.
I am fairly sure that if you spend tens to hundreds of hours dealing with the damage resulting from some spammers abusing _your_ mail server and getting thousands upon thousands of people mad at YOU because they think YOU were responsible for the spam, you too would be somewhat less openminded about spammers.
You see.. people who let YOU take the heat for things THEY did are not people I like. I (the company I work for, rather) gets thousands worth of damage, not to mention a bad name so that some spammer can earn some quick bucks without too much work.
How exactly can this be justified?
Spam results in real damage - maybe not per se for the individuals who just have to 'click delete', but somebody ends up getting hurt. And in most societies, people do not have the freedom to inflict damage onto other people.
"If you know where I can get 5GB of bandwidth for free, please let me know."
Well, doesn't that seem to be the problem now? You want something for free so you can sell it for money. That looks like theft to me. *somebody* ends up paying for it.
Also, mr. spammer.. why are you asking where *you* can get 5GB of bandwidth for free?;-) It looks like you have unwittingly revealed yourself.
Is it possible for me to post my email address in a public forum and state "don't send me ANY spam!"? Will that be respected by spammers? I doubt it. They even seem to filter out "NOSPAM" segments in email addresses.
If I willingly publish my fax number somewhere, am I also inviting people to send me junk faxes? Oh, wait.. that was illegal. Speaking of which, all too often illegal practices are used in the spam sending process. Addresses are forged, service is stolen, etc. This is highly anti-social and unethical.
If you have no other way to provide yourself with an income, you should consider more profitable criminal activities.
The point is that these "honest" people are shoving the cost onto OTHER people. Therefore, they never make the investments, but do gather the profits. The fact that they often forge headers and use cracked servers does not contribute to their image.
You admit that spam costs each person a few k of bandwidth. Let's say that an average junkmail is 5k in size. In an average mailing action we are talking about more than 1M addresses. This means at least 5GB of data transfer per mailing action.
Multiply this by the number of spammers and you can begin to see the scope of the problem.
It wouldn't be so much of a problem if they PAID to send their junk. One of the problems is that they victimize innocent people and they end up with damages ranging in the thousands of dollars so that the spammer in question can earn at most a few hundred.
Perhaps this is why the term 'leeches' is often used with this sort of people.
There is no fix on the number of junkmails one gets. You could be 'lucky' and get only a few per day or you could get over 50. If you try to be removed from the list you will get more junk.
It is good that you have a tolerance for spam. I will consider you 'opt-in' if I ever feel the need to send bulkmails.
I like this second part - I was somewhat sceptical at first and a friend of mine could somehow only focus on testing routines for GUI's and the like; this might provide some good counterargument.
I agree... currently I'm using Red Hat on all my linux systems, but after their series of bloopers I'm inclined to start experimenting with other distro's. I've used Red Hat since 1996, but my next distro will be Debian.
Well, what one often sees in games like starcraft it usually comes down to dumb mass offensives. The trick lies in making fairly good defences, pumping up production of armies (don't just build one factory, build 10) and then attacking.
I think the correlation would be higher where the player gets more time to think. Risk, simcity, civ, etc are good examples.
I personally like Quake 3, simply because while playing it, it keeps my mind off of other things. It's more a reflex/anticipation game than strategy IMO.
According to the article, the entire ride lasts about 8 minutes. Hhm... they're throwing almost a *billion* bucks at a 20-mile 8 minute ride? How much would the cost be for more realistic distances???
Well, this seems interesting for most people enthusiastic about Linux, etc. Learning more about how things work internally can make it somewhat easier to diagnose/fix problems IMO.
About the windows source... hhm.. there must be some internal documents explaining things, I'm guessing. Or maybe not...
Hhm.. that's a nice idea. Too bad it most likely wouldn't work on here. You'd have multiple ratings, I suppose: 1) total (includes anonymous), 2) registered users, 3) karma weighted
I foresee more 'spikes' with method 1 than with the other methods. 2 and 3 should be fairly close IMO.
Ok, I'm wondering... how much does ICQ/IM/etc have to suffer from DOS attacks relative to e.g. IRC?
I'm guessing AOL has some bandwidth to spare, but still...
Is this less bad since there are no 'channels' to take over or what?
Fewer DOS attacks perhaps...? My experience with IRC is (at least in some channels) that people often childishly pingflood, etc whatever person they dislike. Fun....
Well, inevitably, there are going to be differences between the 'picture' in your head and how it appears on screen, not matter how accurately made. That's why books are neat -- everybody has a slightly different mental picture of sights and sounds.
Well, since they are implementing the processor in an FPGA, I really don't think it'll come down to _really_ slow speeds or refrigerator sized casings as some have suggested.
I like this idea, but I see some problems... how open is this opt-out list? Can anybody join this list or what? It seems only norwegian spammers are going to be held accountable, so anybody else can ignore this list or even abuse it... that is: use it as a free source of email addresses.
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The link doesn't give a whole lot of information.
I think a mixed name based / ip based web hosting solution would be best. Let the client decide which he/she wants and charge a little extra for having your own ip number.
That way, many people will _choose_ for the name based solution. It's a win either way.
Moz.
Heh, these guys don't seem to be the smartest, no. They seem to be stupid kids or whatever to whom 'sex' is still a big deal, heh.. fun. No biggie.. move along now.
;-)
I'm a tad bit jealous of Adam, though (read the part about the female member)
Moz.
Heh :-)
I guess it shouldn't hurt to at least have tried it once... perhaps I'll do some kind of dual or triple boot setup on my next compu.
Moz.
Well, I've been a Red Hat user for quite a while.. even paid for a distro or two, but after the current interesting events I have decided to switch to another distribution.
:-) Bye bye, buggy Red Hat.
The next distro I install will be Debian
Moz.
Hhm.. that last comment applied to spammers in general (or at least the ones I had the misfortune to deal with), not to you. I don't know your background, your activities, what kind of person you are, etc. I'm sorry.. attacking you personally is not good.
I am fairly sure that if you spend tens to hundreds of hours dealing with the damage resulting from some spammers abusing _your_ mail server and getting thousands upon thousands of people mad at YOU because they think YOU were responsible for the spam, you too would be somewhat less openminded about spammers.
You see.. people who let YOU take the heat for things THEY did are not people I like. I (the company I work for, rather) gets thousands worth of damage, not to mention a bad name so that some spammer can earn some quick bucks without too much work.
How exactly can this be justified?
Spam results in real damage - maybe not per se for the individuals who just have to 'click delete', but somebody ends up getting hurt. And in most societies, people do not have the freedom to inflict damage onto other people.
Cheers,
Moz.
"If you know where I can get 5GB of bandwidth for free, please let me know."
;-) It looks like you have unwittingly revealed yourself.
Well, doesn't that seem to be the problem now? You want something for free so you can sell it for money. That looks like theft to me. *somebody* ends up paying for it.
Also, mr. spammer.. why are you asking where *you* can get 5GB of bandwidth for free?
Is it possible for me to post my email address in a public forum and state "don't send me ANY spam!"? Will that be respected by spammers? I doubt it. They even seem to filter out "NOSPAM" segments in email addresses.
If I willingly publish my fax number somewhere, am I also inviting people to send me junk faxes? Oh, wait.. that was illegal. Speaking of which, all too often illegal practices are used in the spam sending process. Addresses are forged, service is stolen, etc. This is highly anti-social and unethical.
If you have no other way to provide yourself with an income, you should consider more profitable criminal activities.
Moz.
The point is that these "honest" people are shoving the cost onto OTHER people. Therefore, they never make the investments, but do gather the profits. The fact that they often forge headers and use cracked servers does not contribute to their image.
You admit that spam costs each person a few k of bandwidth. Let's say that an average junkmail is 5k in size. In an average mailing action we are talking about more than 1M addresses. This means at least 5GB of data transfer per mailing action.
Multiply this by the number of spammers and you can begin to see the scope of the problem.
It wouldn't be so much of a problem if they PAID to send their junk. One of the problems is that they victimize innocent people and they end up with damages ranging in the thousands of dollars so that the spammer in question can earn at most a few hundred.
Perhaps this is why the term 'leeches' is often used with this sort of people.
There is no fix on the number of junkmails one gets. You could be 'lucky' and get only a few per day or you could get over 50. If you try to be removed from the list you will get more junk.
It is good that you have a tolerance for spam. I will consider you 'opt-in' if I ever feel the need to send bulkmails.
Moz.
Perhaps even better is that they can get the hand-eye coordination skills as well on this (gaming) platform ;-)
Moz.
It's still the same machine.. plus, don't even start thinking about (sniffable?) network connections, keyboards, etc.
IMO for complete security you want the physical boxes to be secure too...
Moz.
I like this second part - I was somewhat sceptical at first and a friend of mine could somehow only focus on testing routines for GUI's and the like; this might provide some good counterargument.
Moz.
I agree... currently I'm using Red Hat on all my linux systems, but after their series of bloopers I'm inclined to start experimenting with other distro's. I've used Red Hat since 1996, but my next distro will be Debian.
Moz.
Well, what one often sees in games like starcraft it usually comes down to dumb mass offensives. The trick lies in making fairly good defences, pumping up production of armies (don't just build one factory, build 10) and then attacking.
I think the correlation would be higher where the player gets more time to think. Risk, simcity, civ, etc are good examples.
I personally like Quake 3, simply because while playing it, it keeps my mind off of other things. It's more a reflex/anticipation game than strategy IMO.
Moz.
According to the article, the entire ride lasts about 8 minutes. Hhm... they're throwing almost a *billion* bucks at a 20-mile 8 minute ride? How much would the cost be for more realistic distances???
Moz.
So do we also get special features where we can 'follow the white rabbit'? ;-)
Moz.
Well, this seems interesting for most people enthusiastic about Linux, etc. Learning more about how things work internally can make it somewhat easier to diagnose/fix problems IMO.
About the windows source... hhm.. there must be some internal documents explaining things, I'm guessing. Or maybe not...
Moz.
Hhm.. that's a nice idea. Too bad it most likely wouldn't work on here. You'd have multiple ratings, I suppose: 1) total (includes anonymous), 2) registered users, 3) karma weighted
I foresee more 'spikes' with method 1 than with the other methods. 2 and 3 should be fairly close IMO.
Moz.
Ok, I'm wondering... how much does ICQ/IM/etc have to suffer from DOS attacks relative to e.g. IRC?
I'm guessing AOL has some bandwidth to spare, but still...
Is this less bad since there are no 'channels' to take over or what?
Moz.
Fewer DOS attacks perhaps...? My experience with IRC is (at least in some channels) that people often childishly pingflood, etc whatever person they dislike. Fun....
Moz.
Well, inevitably, there are going to be differences between the 'picture' in your head and how it appears on screen, not matter how accurately made. That's why books are neat -- everybody has a slightly different mental picture of sights and sounds.
Moz.
When light is 'stopped', does it decrease in intensity after a while or can it just be stored indefinitely?
Moz.
Well, since they are implementing the processor in an FPGA, I really don't think it'll come down to _really_ slow speeds or refrigerator sized casings as some have suggested.
Moz.
I guess just because it's cool..?
Moz.
I like this idea, but I see some problems... how open is this opt-out list? Can anybody join this list or what? It seems only norwegian spammers are going to be held accountable, so anybody else can ignore this list or even abuse it... that is: use it as a free source of email addresses.
I'm interested to see where this goes.
Moz.
This reminds me, I have some overdue bills to pay... oops.
Moz.
From what I read, Borland was pretty unresponsive initially. Looks like it might just have been laziness.
Moz.