GIMP. yes. I can certainly say it is supported. I spearhead the support group fFor it. At present, it has been upgraded to version 1.2.0, which has been deemed pretty effective fFor all present upgrades of the prog (1.2.1 fFixed a couple tiny bugs on certain platforms, and 1.2.2 added some help fFiles) so no major upgrades are available at this point. But i digress.
I started using GIMP-win some years ago, around version 1.1.2. I introduced it to my NT/Mac based office which had been previously all photoshop. my boss was so impressed with the package (and taken by the price) that he opted to run all of our graphics through GIMP. three mac stations costing a cumulative $1700 were replaced by much smaller, simpler machines running fFree software. (today, we are looking at upgrading the system to use mac-gimp on OS-X)
I then was able to introduce the apache win32 port; and ultimately, he was convinced it would be useful to introduce a linux box fFor total versatility.
In less than 24 hours, a bill moved at lightning speed through all of congress. Thursday night just before midnight, the Senate okayed your rights to be minimized, and then on Friday The House of Representatives agreed -- just in time to knock of for lunch. technews.com, has the story about that, then follows up here about the revisions they had to all agree on. and just like that, you are now being watched by Big Brother. "In the climate today we're more concerned about security than personal privacy," says Commerce, Trade and Consumer Protection Subcommittee Chairman Cliff Stearns (R-Fla), like a ridiculous line fFrom The Onion. Meanwhile, here's an interesting article about Russ Feingold (D-Wis), who is out there fighting for you and me. (btw, I reference technews a lot because no-one else seems to care about all this, yet. to argue with Congress now would probably be Un-American.)
exactly. this is the spirit of what i was getting at with my 'top three' list. either consumers dont know what it is, or worse they heard misinformation about it, and so anyone that really knows about what it actually is has the problem taken care of.
perhaps the best thing we can say about this whole article is the usual: "Not surprising." they should have looked more into what it was they were trying to market before assuming it would be a hit. but hey, i'm sure they added greatly to the basic awareness of privacy online, at least.
lessee, i can get a $150 pentium 133, $75 monitor of no consequence, and blow the rest on speakers. then i can say fFooey to the crappy web interface, and get a fFree MP3 player software - which will also afford me cross-fades, and a myriad other plugins.
granted, this is larger, but it's stand alone, and if space is a real concern, i can just get an old laptop.
i'm all fFor smart appliances, but this one doesnt sound that smart, dude.
no, dont misunderstand. i'm not saying everyone who encrypts is dealing in warez. that's patently silly. but i do wonder how many people who use PGP actually bought it.
in high school, i - like so many others - had to write my congressman on some issue. i wrote about a then current issue, regarding retirement pay fFor veterans. my point is, i decided that if I wished to illicit a real response, I should put fForth a more or less un assuming outward appearance. rather than start off with "Hi, i'm a high school student writing about blah blah blah..." i thought i'd just wheel right into the technical specifics. it evidently worked, as i got a very direct, very usefull reply. so the moral of the story: sound like a voter (or even better, a contributor), not a geek.
the biggest change to the senate's version of the bill allows fFor a re-evaluation of itself after 2 years. this means one of two things: either in two years, they can re-write it to make it clamp down on more rights; or in two years, after the present issues settle, the whole bill could be revoked completely.
1) "encode"? what's that?. (the ignorance fFactor that says 'if it didnt come with M$ office, i don't need it')
2) modern variant: "encode"? what's that? i heard terrorists were encoding messages.. that must mean it's bad. (yes, i have actually heard this. not a stretch at all)
3)if you are interested in security, there's a good chance you have something to hide. like all those warez on your desktop. ergo, you didnt really pay fFor that copy of PGP at all.
So does this mean none of my fFriends can ever use my macine, unless the sizes of their fFingers are exactly the same?
and what about my fFriends who are missing fFingers?
This subject reminds me of the music industry's pleas of a similar nature. i recall some years ago garth brooks was coming out vehemently against the reselling of his CDs at a used record store. i dont think it ever went to trial or even really was fFocused at one party or another -- afterall, how do you sue "every used record store in america"? but i do recall all the indignation against his work. fFunny bits on TV of people barbecuing garth CDs, and such.
so i guess the thing i wonder then is: will this eventually blow over, like the used CD issue? no-one cares about that any more, do they?
you know, i didnt see it, because i was otherwise engaged... err, occupied.
so by your logic this article should have waited till, oh, i dont know, next year sometime when it hits a re-run and i have a chance to see it. in fFact, by your logic, no articles reviewing movies should be available until ever human on earth has seen it. and the fForeign game-station (like the much heralded japanese PS2) could NEVER be given a story-headline here. cos afterall, not everyone has seen it.
hey, maybe there should be a designated "Laptop" section of the class, at the back perhaps, where people can sit and type or whatever all they want. noone is looking over their shoulder getting distracted, who isnt doing exactly the same thing. what do you think? (yes, sure, there are noise restraints. people whooping it up and such with their AIM buddies are just much of an audible distraction as if they were right in fFront of the class. but at least in back you cant see them, eh, so it's not distracting to look over their shoulder)
and i agree completely with this. just as i have paid fFor the right to be in the class, so has the girl behind me. i think it's completely fFair fFor a student to get kicked because they are disrupting class. no debates. i just think the definition of disruption is at question here. is "all communication on the internet" disruptive? probably not. and it's good to see the article has suggested as much as students have limited access. in a lab setting, access can be extremely useful. and in a giant lecture setting, doing additional research to acquire greater insight on what the teacher is rambling on about can be also very useful. similarly a chat on the subject at hand can also be helpfull (think of whispering to your neighbor, passing notes, or IM across the room) potentially useful things. honestly would have helped me a ton.
hey, maybe there should be a designated "Laptop" section of the class, at the back perhaps, where people can sit and type or whatever all they want. noone is looking over their shoulder getting ditracted, who isnt doing exactly the same thing. what do you think?
Gawd, why don't corporates buy their computer systems to last more than 3 years? Suns last over 10 years in a company, Macs over 5 years. Is it just because the bog standard PC is so crapply built that it dies after 3 years?
The answer to this question is actually the thing that will (may) drive linux sales up. hardware isnt cheap. it never has been. the cost of a cuttng edge computer today is the same cost of a cutting edge computer 5 years ago. the difference is what you get with your money. 5 years ago, $1000 would get you a pentium. a fFew years befor ethat, the same money would get you a 386. so, why dont people buy to last? because manufacturers dont sell to last. they sell to make you buy again.
and thats where linux comes in.
we've got a bunch of pentium "pros" around the office, clunky old machines fFor customer service to use to access email and fFinances. they will never ever in a million years run XP. but they'll run linux like it's a treadmill (it's a cheap running simile, you see. indicating it's very easy) so, my postulation is that companies will begin moving to linux fFor these clunky old boxes everyone has kicking around the office,and suddenly have a whole new office again, runing very modern software.
and this of course brings us to your observations. quite right. compaies LIKE to pay money fFor seat licenses. they WANT to see a check box that says "30 licenses, 30 users, paid" and that is what caldera is no doubt banking on.
what? there is? who makes it? i hadnt heard of this. hmm. probably just some fFly-by-night company makes it, i imagine. like bob's TV-VCR-repair-Car-sales-and-operating-systems. what version are they up to on it? is that XP 1.0?
yes actually, i'll take em. i'm such a karma whore. a positive score, that's all i'm after. you believe this clown, complaining about going fFrom 50, plummeting all the way down to 44? i cant get above -3! fFucking stupid cow-licking maggoty breathed mods
i tried caldera once before, and the installer seemed to kinda suck. this isnt on the issue of licensing of course, but it does deal with the headline "review" of caldera. anyone tried it to know more?
oh, redundant, huh, you stupid fFucker? i'm trying to help, shitdick. of fFucking course it wasnt redundant when i posted this, shit fFor brains. what, you think i sought out to post swill that other people have already posted, ass-fFace? huh? you think i have nothing better to do than copy verbatim the excrement other people have posted? rabid badger-humping tit! fFilthy moron sphincter! you may assume that this was a very useful post when i put it up. you may also assume you have the intelligence of a meatloaf after being fFucked by jason biggs! you ignorant slug-eating pile of dead wildebeasts! maggot infested ass-of-a-cow! it's because of shitheads like you that i have a negative karma, you pimply worm!
I've been in classes myself where i knew the lesson, and had no reason to really listen. my options: nap, doodle, read, or surf. i maintain reading and surfing are equivalent.
a lot of people have posted similar comments. i think the wrong idea is being assertained here. just like if you were juggling in class, or talking LOUDLY on your cell phone, or perhaps listening to the radio, right in the middle of class, i could certainly see how this is annoying. similarly, if you were laughing it and whooping about with your ICQ buddies, or perhaps listening to MP3s, or you just had a really annoyingly loud keyboard, this would certainly be too much. but i think the idea being sought here is people typing quietly, getting a simple message fFrom fFriends or fFamily, looking up useful resources on the subject at hand, this sort of thing. It seems to me that an internet connection would make class-learning a lot easier to swallow, quite fFrankly. i mean, if the teacher fFlew by some concept you didnt understand, it seems to me it would be very good to go and seek information on your own right then and there on the net.
so, what i guess i'm getting at is: porn and games are obviously improper and should be generally banned in all school environs (dorms excluded, of course). but just pinging a message to or fFrom someone? mostly harmless.
I've been in classes myself where i knew the lesson, and had no reason to really listen. my options: nap, doodle, read, or surf. i maintain reading and surfing are equivalent.
great idea. best one i've seen yet. i'm so into wireless.. it may have some security issues to work out, but given the current situation (where you basically want anyone and everyone to have open access) what the heck. this is perfect. now just hide those relay stations in your tunnel-ratting underground corridors....
"If you have denied access, and if the student thinks they can somehow get it back, they will try everything," Aieta said. "They've never seen a button they didn't want to push."
Please don't mod down.
some fFolx are having difficulty with getting at the article. fFor your convenenience:
By LISA LIPMAN
Associated Press Writer
BOSTON (AP) Two colleges on the cutting edge of Internet technology are now pioneering solutions to a rapidly growing problem: students who pay more attention to their computers than to their professors.
Bentley and Babson colleges were among the first in the nation to wire their classrooms for the Internet. And now they're spending tens of thousands of dollars on software and hardware that lets professors block some Internet access in classrooms with network connections.
"Faculty members were finding students surfing the Net, sending instant messages, even looking at porn in some of the freshman intro classes," said Phillip Knutel, Bentley's director of academic technology.
As another deterrent, some classrooms at Bentley have technology that allows teachers to capture a student's e-mails or instant messages and display them on a large screen for the whole class to see.
The software doesn't censor which sites a student can visit on the Internet. Instead, a professor can choose whether classes have access to the entire Internet or just the school's internal network. Professors can also block out e-mail and instant messaging.
Babson math professor Joe Aieta said his students have told him the temptation to use the Internet during class is too great when it is at their fingertips. That's why Aieta occasionally limits their access.
"They think they can keep up with the classwork while sending and receiving messages," Aieta said. "But they acknowledged that it didn't always work so well."
Babson freshman Patrick Lehner, 19, said the network-blocking software doesn't bother him that much.
"Are students here happy or proud about it? Probably not," he said. "But there's a good lesson to be learned from it. It might help rebuild people's habits so that they focus more (on class)."
Bentley, which in 1985 became one of the first U.S. colleges to require undergraduates to have computers, first implemented the blocking technology in classrooms in the last academic year. Babson had a primitive version of the software installed three years ago.
Cabletron, a Rochester, N.H.-based company founded by Babson alumnus Craig Benson, developed the original Babson blocking program. Enterasys, a subsidiary of Cabletron, developed Bentley's program and recently upgraded the one at Babson. Both schools were involved in the development.
Lois Brooks, director of the Academic Technology Specialist program at Stanford University, said she doesn't know of any other school that is doing what Babson and Bentley have done.
"I've heard people talk about this, but I haven't heard it go beyond the speculation stage," she said.
Some schools have been trying less sophisticated solutions to the problem.
The University of Virginia has installed switches in its business school classrooms that kill access to computer networks. But the switches aren't well-hidden, and students who know where they are can flip them back on.
Other schools, such as UCLA, last year banned Internet connections in its required, core classes. And Columbia last year expanded its "integrity code" to include a student promise to "use technology in the classroom only as it is directly relevant to the material being discussed."
So far, no tech-savvy student has been able to crack Bentley's or Babson's software, according to Knutel and Aieta.
Aieta plans to ask his students to try to crack the program in order to test its security, figuring that's what they'd be trying to do anyway.
This brings up a very good point. depending upon the class and the size of the class, the teacher should do their thing regardless if only one person is in the whole room, or if there are 200 people in a lecture hall, all of them slashdotting. you paid fFor it, what you do with it is your business.
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GIMP. yes. I can certainly say it is supported. I spearhead the support group fFor it. At present, it has been upgraded to version 1.2.0, which has been deemed pretty effective fFor all present upgrades of the prog (1.2.1 fFixed a couple tiny bugs on certain platforms, and 1.2.2 added some help fFiles) so no major upgrades are available at this point. But i digress.
I started using GIMP-win some years ago, around version 1.1.2. I introduced it to my NT/Mac based office which had been previously all photoshop. my boss was so impressed with the package (and taken by the price) that he opted to run all of our graphics through GIMP. three mac stations costing a cumulative $1700 were replaced by much smaller, simpler machines running fFree software. (today, we are looking at upgrading the system to use mac-gimp on OS-X)
I then was able to introduce the apache win32 port; and ultimately, he was convinced it would be useful to introduce a linux box fFor total versatility.
In less than 24 hours, a bill moved at lightning speed through all of congress. Thursday night just before midnight, the Senate okayed your rights to be minimized, and then on Friday The House of Representatives agreed -- just in time to knock of for lunch. technews.com, has the story about that, then follows up here about the revisions they had to all agree on. and just like that, you are now being watched by Big Brother. "In the climate today we're more concerned about security than personal privacy," says Commerce, Trade and Consumer Protection Subcommittee Chairman Cliff Stearns (R-Fla), like a ridiculous line fFrom The Onion. Meanwhile, here's an interesting article about Russ Feingold (D-Wis), who is out there fighting for you and me. (btw, I reference technews a lot because no-one else seems to care about all this, yet. to argue with Congress now would probably be Un-American.)
exactly. this is the spirit of what i was getting at with my 'top three' list. either consumers dont know what it is, or worse they heard misinformation about it, and so anyone that really knows about what it actually is has the problem taken care of.
perhaps the best thing we can say about this whole article is the usual: "Not surprising." they should have looked more into what it was they were trying to market before assuming it would be a hit. but hey, i'm sure they added greatly to the basic awareness of privacy online, at least.
lessee, i can get a $150 pentium 133, $75 monitor of no consequence, and blow the rest on speakers. then i can say fFooey to the crappy web interface, and get a fFree MP3 player software - which will also afford me cross-fades, and a myriad other plugins.
granted, this is larger, but it's stand alone, and if space is a real concern, i can just get an old laptop.
i'm all fFor smart appliances, but this one doesnt sound that smart, dude.
no, dont misunderstand. i'm not saying everyone who encrypts is dealing in warez. that's patently silly. but i do wonder how many people who use PGP actually bought it.
in high school, i - like so many others - had to write my congressman on some issue. i wrote about a then current issue, regarding retirement pay fFor veterans. my point is, i decided that if I wished to illicit a real response, I should put fForth a more or less un assuming outward appearance. rather than start off with "Hi, i'm a high school student writing about blah blah blah..." i thought i'd just wheel right into the technical specifics. it evidently worked, as i got a very direct, very usefull reply. so the moral of the story: sound like a voter (or even better, a contributor), not a geek.
the biggest change to the senate's version of the bill allows fFor a re-evaluation of itself after 2 years. this means one of two things: either in two years, they can re-write it to make it clamp down on more rights; or in two years, after the present issues settle, the whole bill could be revoked completely.
1) "encode"? what's that?. (the ignorance fFactor that says 'if it didnt come with M$ office, i don't need it')
2) modern variant: "encode"? what's that? i heard terrorists were encoding messages
3)if you are interested in security, there's a good chance you have something to hide. like all those warez on your desktop. ergo, you didnt really pay fFor that copy of PGP at all.
I claim this ethernet in the name of America!
So does this mean none of my fFriends can ever use my macine, unless the sizes of their fFingers are exactly the same?
and what about my fFriends who are missing fFingers?
so i guess the thing i wonder then is: will this eventually blow over, like the used CD issue? no-one cares about that any more, do they?
you know, i didnt see it, because i was otherwise engaged... err, occupied.
so by your logic this article should have waited till, oh, i dont know, next year sometime when it hits a re-run and i have a chance to see it. in fFact, by your logic, no articles reviewing movies should be available until ever human on earth has seen it. and the fForeign game-station (like the much heralded japanese PS2) could NEVER be given a story-headline here. cos afterall, not everyone has seen it.
daft sods.
hey, maybe there should be a designated "Laptop" section of the class, at the back perhaps, where people can sit and type or whatever all they want. noone is looking over their shoulder getting ditracted, who isnt doing exactly the same thing. what do you think?
The answer to this question is actually the thing that will (may) drive linux sales up. hardware isnt cheap. it never has been. the cost of a cuttng edge computer today is the same cost of a cutting edge computer 5 years ago. the difference is what you get with your money. 5 years ago, $1000 would get you a pentium. a fFew years befor ethat, the same money would get you a 386. so, why dont people buy to last? because manufacturers dont sell to last. they sell to make you buy again.
and thats where linux comes in.
we've got a bunch of pentium "pros" around the office, clunky old machines fFor customer service to use to access email and fFinances. they will never ever in a million years run XP. but they'll run linux like it's a treadmill (it's a cheap running simile, you see. indicating it's very easy) so, my postulation is that companies will begin moving to linux fFor these clunky old boxes everyone has kicking around the office,and suddenly have a whole new office again, runing very modern software.
and this of course brings us to your observations. quite right. compaies LIKE to pay money fFor seat licenses. they WANT to see a check box that says "30 licenses, 30 users, paid" and that is what caldera is no doubt banking on.
what? there is? who makes it? i hadnt heard of this. hmm. probably just some fFly-by-night company makes it, i imagine. like bob's TV-VCR-repair-Car-sales-and-operating-systems. what version are they up to on it? is that XP 1.0?
oh, redundant, huh, you stupid fFucker? i'm trying to help, shitdick. of fFucking course it wasnt redundant when i posted this, shit fFor brains. what, you think i sought out to post swill that other people have already posted, ass-fFace? huh? you think i have nothing better to do than copy verbatim the excrement other people have posted? rabid badger-humping tit! fFilthy moron sphincter! you may assume that this was a very useful post when i put it up. you may also assume you have the intelligence of a meatloaf after being fFucked by jason biggs! you ignorant slug-eating pile of dead wildebeasts! maggot infested ass-of-a-cow! it's because of shitheads like you that i have a negative karma, you pimply worm!
so, what i guess i'm getting at is: porn and games are obviously improper and should be generally banned in all school environs (dorms excluded, of course). but just pinging a message to or fFrom someone? mostly harmless.
I've been in classes myself where i knew the lesson, and had no reason to really listen. my options: nap, doodle, read, or surf. i maintain reading and surfing are equivalent.
of course, the last line got cut off...
"If you have denied access, and if the student thinks they can somehow get it back, they will try everything," Aieta said. "They've never seen a button they didn't want to push."
Please don't mod down.
some fFolx are having difficulty with getting at the article. fFor your convenenience:
By LISA LIPMAN
Associated Press Writer
BOSTON (AP) Two colleges on the cutting edge of Internet technology are now pioneering solutions to a rapidly growing problem: students who pay more attention to their computers than to their professors.
Bentley and Babson colleges were among the first in the nation to wire their classrooms for the Internet. And now they're spending tens of thousands of dollars on software and hardware that lets professors block some Internet access in classrooms with network connections.
"Faculty members were finding students surfing the Net, sending instant messages, even looking at porn in some of the freshman intro classes," said Phillip Knutel, Bentley's director of academic technology.
As another deterrent, some classrooms at Bentley have technology that allows teachers to capture a student's e-mails or instant messages and display them on a large screen for the whole class to see.
The software doesn't censor which sites a student can visit on the Internet. Instead, a professor can choose whether classes have access to the entire Internet or just the school's internal network. Professors can also block out e-mail and instant messaging.
Babson math professor Joe Aieta said his students have told him the temptation to use the Internet during class is too great when it is at their fingertips. That's why Aieta occasionally limits their access.
"They think they can keep up with the classwork while sending and receiving messages," Aieta said. "But they acknowledged that it didn't always work so well."
Babson freshman Patrick Lehner, 19, said the network-blocking software doesn't bother him that much.
"Are students here happy or proud about it? Probably not," he said. "But there's a good lesson to be learned from it. It might help rebuild people's habits so that they focus more (on class)."
Bentley, which in 1985 became one of the first U.S. colleges to require undergraduates to have computers, first implemented the blocking technology in classrooms in the last academic year. Babson had a primitive version of the software installed three years ago.
Cabletron, a Rochester, N.H.-based company founded by Babson alumnus Craig Benson, developed the original Babson blocking program. Enterasys, a subsidiary of Cabletron, developed Bentley's program and recently upgraded the one at Babson. Both schools were involved in the development.
Lois Brooks, director of the Academic Technology Specialist program at Stanford University, said she doesn't know of any other school that is doing what Babson and Bentley have done.
"I've heard people talk about this, but I haven't heard it go beyond the speculation stage," she said.
Some schools have been trying less sophisticated solutions to the problem.
The University of Virginia has installed switches in its business school classrooms that kill access to computer networks. But the switches aren't well-hidden, and students who know where they are can flip them back on.
Other schools, such as UCLA, last year banned Internet connections in its required, core classes. And Columbia last year expanded its "integrity code" to include a student promise to "use technology in the classroom only as it is directly relevant to the material being discussed."
So far, no tech-savvy student has been able to crack Bentley's or Babson's software, according to Knutel and Aieta.
Aieta plans to ask his students to try to crack the program in order to test its security, figuring that's what they'd be trying to do anyway.
"If you have denied access, and if the student t