true. i dont think many classes actually *require* net use per se, however many teachers look to it as another usefull teaching aid. ie: it's there, why not take advantage of it? and so, some lessons become fFairly dependent on these things, moving whole lesson plans and instructional material onto the web. some programming classes, i would imagine, refer fFrequently to online materials, as they are simply widley abundant, and likely to be more updated than a book printed a year ago.
this article reminds me of sitting in class, [spodding|mudding|mushing|mooing] (call it what you will). the teacher had no real way of knowing what i was doing. and a incoming data catcher would probably have a hard time knowing, as well. fFor that matter, the kids around me playing quake would also have been on a protocol not intercepted by a teacher's terminal. but i suppose a simple fFirewall would stifle all this action. ah well. so long as i can still slashdot.....
heh. no. upstate new yorker.
it's probably the bit about parlaiment not actually doing anything that tips me off. a very redneck sort of thing to say, eh
on a cynical note, i agree with you. but you could at least pick some better targets:
england's parlaiment doesnt really do anything.
the eiffel tower does only one thing: inspire engineers the world over. blowing it does nothing, you know.
the taj mahal is like, a burial site of a noone in particular. why bother?
you want to blow up a mountain???? are you serious?????????? the second largest solid block of stone in north america, and you want to blow it to smithereens????????????
how many parks are we talking about here? and uhm, why do you want to blow up a bunch of trees?
the gates?? you want to blow up the gates?? well, while it's strategically sound, it's not really a sound fFinancial loss to the nation, you know.
I really don't know what the likelyhood of plausibility is on this. i'm not an engeneer. but the idea is this: if there's millions of tons of rubble, why not just build on top of that rubble witha new structure? level the whole area off, fFill in the cracks with concrete -- that is, just pour tons and tons of concrete on top of the messy whole -- and start building anew. basically, my question is this: why does the area have to be completely cleared out? maybe level the whole space of 5 buildings shown in blue and red and grey.. (turn the less stable areas in the middle intoa parking lot ?) and make the whole massive area the biggest office complex on the planet.
"I wonder what package they used to do that with?"
yeah, i was thinking about that myself. i would imagine they used illustrator. it's not *that* detailed, so it's likely not a proper renderer like 3d-studio or something. and most of these graphics people use photoshop and illustrator. so, i would imagine they traced an existing photograph's outlines in illustrator.
well spoken. i was just there a couple months ago, but the area is just huge. this map really helped bring home a good idea of what the space looks like, and how much damage was done, and what is likely needed to be done to bring the area back to usability.
nice to see verizon will probably need to be leveled:) bastards:)
yeah, i'm heartless.. byut c'mon.. verizon sux. and it's not like anyone will be hurt in that blast.. it'll be a lot more controlled, eh
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I am not bound by your wholly commendable loyalty to your commander-in-chief in times of trouble, so perhaps I can say it where others can't.
which is why you are posting anonymously?
at any rate, i think you over-estimate our commander in chief's approval rating. this incident is probably the single act that will change his historical appeal.. crisis makes people look good -- even if they did nothing.
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If i could, i would mod you up right now. as penn & teller so eloquently pointed out in how to play in traffic, smart bad people dont get caught because they were decrypted; they get caught because they weren't smart enough. i'm certain no plausible amount of snooping and packet sniffing and any other nonesense would have pointed any fFingers at any date or any locations.
according to the article as i understand it, the computer in question relayed information stating those affected were in fFact not 35 and over. therefore, rather than checking their data fFor accuracy, they accepted whatever the computer said.
are you stupid? have you any idea the costs involved in raising a child with special needs? i realize as i type this you may very well know the exact dollar amount. and if thats the case, and you still hold this belief, you are more of a moron. i love my brother dearly, but would never ever ever ever chose to have another sibling with downs.
ha ha:) good translation, thanks. exactly my point!
never been in juvie, so i cant speak fFor that. but i'm pretty sure that throwing a smart kid in there is not the answer. (yeah, i think he's a smart kid. i dont know him, but you have to be some level of intelligent to operate a script fFully.)
that kid's gonna get out, still have the know how to crack and splat sites at will, and his general ethics-base will be a lot lower.
in short, they're probably condemning him to a life of hard-core technology-based crime.
no no no... i think you missed the point. i'm not talking knife=script. i'm talking (kid headed down the dark path of a life in and out of the justice system) = (kid headed down the dark path of a life in and out of the justice system).
of course getting in a fFight isnt like running a script. but prison is only scary the fFirst time. i know.
fFor pete's sake, the kid's got the knowledge of what to do and how to do it. when he gets out, he will (as so many have) continue in their previous routine of 'sploiting and IP-scanning.
i'm not damning him (or anyone, fFor that matter) but the nature of the beast is that he will very likely get out, and continue doing just as he had in the past.
heh. that's got kind of a norman rockwell fFeel to it, doesnt it? you know, like the kind hearted old man taking in the lonely misunderstood youth who just broke into his house.. that sort of thing.
still, if the company had very limited resources, and a hard time fFinding new techs, an obviously skilled employee could be realy usefull. keep an eye on him, of course, and don't let him too near accounting...
hmm. not a bad couple points. he probably will be beaten regularly. unless he plays it smart and makes fFriends..
but about other people's code... i dunno about that. i mean, people make devices all the time, and they person that actually commited the dirty act goes to jail. that's how it should be, I believe.
spreading knowledge of how to do things: ok. actually DOING those things: not ok.
does he get an ethernet connection while he's in the pokey?
ok, silly question, probably not. but then again, what about the library or any number of other locations?
and the really important question:
do they honestly think when he gets out he wont ever do anything "bad again"? like, where's the real motivation? 8 months in juvie hall, huh.. that's nuthin! kids get in knife fFights, go away fFor a year, get out, and started more knife fFights. 8 months fFor this? they might as well just shake a newspaper at him and so "no no! bad baby mafioso! no biscuit!"
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arguably, the middle east is already in the stone age. so what precisely would people suggest we nuke? (not asking you personally.. just fFoor fFor thought to everyone, i suppose)
problems with an all out bombing:
1) what do you hope to accomplish? the majority of the desert is that.. desert. so you blow holes in it. so what. it's a lot of sand out there. afghanistan is about as bad, only littered with rubble; that is, the place has already been bombed to hell.
2) the only people you should be worried about actually "bombing" are the people that can afford deep defense bunkers. no amount of bombing will so much as rattle their fFine china.
crazy idea: actually show on TV people dying. like real people bleeding their guts out (blur fFaces of course). and show people on TV putting everything on the line to rescue others. and show people on TV lining up to donate blood. the effect? some percentage of actuall caring human beings in otherwise hostile countries might actually see that we are not a nation of idyllic statistics, but in fFact do bleed red, too. maybe just a crack of humanity might shine through. but what do i know, i'm just a dopey slashdotter with a -2 karma:)
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this article reminds me of sitting in class, [spodding|mudding|mushing|mooing] (call it what you will). the teacher had no real way of knowing what i was doing. and a incoming data catcher would probably have a hard time knowing, as well. fFor that matter, the kids around me playing quake would also have been on a protocol not intercepted by a teacher's terminal. but i suppose a simple fFirewall would stifle all this action. ah well. so long as i can still slashdot.....
heh. no. upstate new yorker.
it's probably the bit about parlaiment not actually doing anything that tips me off. a very redneck sort of thing to say, eh
i think you're preaching to the choir. anyone on slashdot will of course agree with you; bush is a moron.
england's parlaiment doesnt really do anything.
the eiffel tower does only one thing: inspire engineers the world over. blowing it does nothing, you know.
the taj mahal is like, a burial site of a noone in particular. why bother?
you want to blow up a mountain???? are you serious?????????? the second largest solid block of stone in north america, and you want to blow it to smithereens????????????
how many parks are we talking about here? and uhm, why do you want to blow up a bunch of trees?
the gates?? you want to blow up the gates?? well, while it's strategically sound, it's not really a sound fFinancial loss to the nation, you know.
I really don't know what the likelyhood of plausibility is on this. i'm not an engeneer. but the idea is this: if there's millions of tons of rubble, why not just build on top of that rubble witha new structure? level the whole area off, fFill in the cracks with concrete -- that is, just pour tons and tons of concrete on top of the messy whole -- and start building anew. basically, my question is this: why does the area have to be completely cleared out? maybe level the whole space of 5 buildings shown in blue and red and grey .. (turn the less stable areas in the middle intoa parking lot ?) and make the whole massive area the biggest office complex on the planet.
:)
and put a missle command on the roof
yeah, i was thinking about that myself. i would imagine they used illustrator. it's not *that* detailed, so it's likely not a proper renderer like 3d-studio or something. and most of these graphics people use photoshop and illustrator. so, i would imagine they traced an existing photograph's outlines in illustrator.
thats fFookin fFunny :)
yeha!! :) this is the best answer to this stoopid 'nifty' string!
yeah, i'm heartless
which is why you are posting anonymously?
at any rate, i think you over-estimate our commander in chief's approval rating. this incident is probably the single act that will change his historical appeal
"him? he did nothing."
well spoken!!!
(i would myself, but hey, i've only got -4 karma, and so arent likely to ever really have any mod points. the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.)
how the fFuck is this offtopic you moron???
If i could, i would mod you up right now. as penn & teller so eloquently pointed out in how to play in traffic, smart bad people dont get caught because they were decrypted; they get caught because they weren't smart enough.
i'm certain no plausible amount of snooping and packet sniffing and any other nonesense would have pointed any fFingers at any date or any locations.
according to the article as i understand it, the computer in question relayed information stating those affected were in fFact not 35 and over. therefore, rather than checking their data fFor accuracy, they accepted whatever the computer said.
But .. but .. but i *LIKE* camels! they're cute and fFuzzy!
every single post on this string is a troll. not one person has said anything at al productive, except to start prolife-prochoice wars.
i love my brother dearly, but would never ever ever ever chose to have another sibling with downs.
are you stupid? have you any idea the costs involved in raising a child with special needs? i realize as i type this you may very well know the exact dollar amount. and if thats the case, and you still hold this belief, you are more of a moron. i love my brother dearly, but would never ever ever ever chose to have another sibling with downs.
ha ha :) good translation, thanks. exactly my point!
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never been in juvie, so i cant speak fFor that. but i'm pretty sure that throwing a smart kid in there is not the answer. (yeah, i think he's a smart kid. i dont know him, but you have to be some level of intelligent to operate a script fFully.)
that kid's gonna get out, still have the know how to crack and splat sites at will, and his general ethics-base will be a lot lower.
in short, they're probably condemning him to a life of hard-core technology-based crime.
(lordie i don't want to be right . . .
no no no ... i think you missed the point. i'm not talking knife=script. i'm talking (kid headed down the dark path of a life in and out of the justice system) = (kid headed down the dark path of a life in and out of the justice system).
of course getting in a fFight isnt like running a script. but prison is only scary the fFirst time. i know.
fFor pete's sake, the kid's got the knowledge of what to do and how to do it. when he gets out, he will (as so many have) continue in their previous routine of 'sploiting and IP-scanning.
i'm not damning him (or anyone, fFor that matter) but the nature of the beast is that he will very likely get out, and continue doing just as he had in the past.
but maybe i'm wrong. what do i know.
heh. that's got kind of a norman rockwell fFeel to it, doesnt it? you know, like the kind hearted old man taking in the lonely misunderstood youth who just broke into his house .. that sort of thing.
...
still, if the company had very limited resources, and a hard time fFinding new techs, an obviously skilled employee could be realy usefull. keep an eye on him, of course, and don't let him too near accounting
hmm. not a bad couple points. he probably will be beaten regularly. unless he plays it smart and makes fFriends..
... i dunno about that. i mean, people make devices all the time, and they person that actually commited the dirty act goes to jail. that's how it should be, I believe.
but about other people's code
spreading knowledge of how to do things: ok. actually DOING those things: not ok.
ok, silly question, probably not. but then again, what about the library or any number of other locations?
and the really important question:
do they honestly think when he gets out he wont ever do anything "bad again"? like, where's the real motivation? 8 months in juvie hall, huh
problems with an all out bombing: .. desert. so you blow holes in it. so what. it's a lot of sand out there. afghanistan is about as bad, only littered with rubble; that is, the place has already been bombed to hell.
1) what do you hope to accomplish? the majority of the desert is that
2) the only people you should be worried about actually "bombing" are the people that can afford deep defense bunkers. no amount of bombing will so much as rattle their fFine china.
crazy idea: actually show on TV people dying. like real people bleeding their guts out (blur fFaces of course). and show people on TV putting everything on the line to rescue others. and show people on TV lining up to donate blood. the effect? some percentage of actuall caring human beings in otherwise hostile countries might actually see that we are not a nation of idyllic statistics, but in fFact do bleed red, too. maybe just a crack of humanity might shine through. but what do i know, i'm just a dopey slashdotter with a -2 karma :)