[Free products driving out proprietory software]...and why you don't hear anything about webservers other than Apache and IIS.
As far as I'm aware, IIS is not, in fact, free. It's clearly not free of bugs, performance issues, horrific security flaws, and its image as the "Web server for bloody idiots" AKA the Internet Infection System;-)
So they can't do anything about it except the post they just made.
"Can't do anything" - that's defeatist thinking, man! It's my understanding that the author's copyright statements must be left intact when any software is distributed under the GPL. So... Why not display the author's copyright when Samba starts up (for 10 seconds or so) e.g. something like:
"Samba 3.x - Copyright Samba team. SCO ARE ATTEMPTING TO KILL OUR OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE!!!!"
Also maybe evolve Samba to become as SCO unfriendly as possible. Bind it to Linux and BSD libraries, accept patches to the main tree that willfully cause crashes on the SCO platform maybe...... ah, who cares, SCO will be long dead before Samba v4 arrives so what does it matter;-)
why would teenagers message their friends that a movie stinks?
maybe, just maybe, it's because the movie stinks.
Damn straight. When a new movie appears, I pay no attention to the trailers or "Quotes" on the posters. I check IMDB, and ask friends who have seen it (of course, it helps if you have lemmings for friends who'll go and see anything;-). Too many movies these days just show all the highlights in the trailers - so you've seen everything worth watching before you even pay for admission...
What these greedy manipulative cretins in Hollywood fail to realise is that their audiences aren't all braindead morons who'll slap down their cash with a dribbling moon-faced, slack-jawed grin after seeing their favourite overpaid, rude obnoxious actor/actress slapped up 12 feed high on a billboard. Well, excepting the Britney Spears fans I guess...
If you want to slashdot it, the IP address is visible in some of the screen shots. It's 169.254.226.132, but I'm not cruel enough to actually turn that into a hyperlink.:-)
Yeah, and anyone stupid enough to believe it'll work outside of a local network should also try 127.0.0.1 for a cool Pr0n site!
Well said. I'm also confused by all the RH bashing that takes place here. I run Gentoo and RH on various machines at home and work, and RH has been a great OS for me! True, it's a little bloated, and I don't use RPM at all due to its dependency problems, but the OS does work out of the box, and works well!
Redhat pay a lot of the main Linux coders, they offer their own training courses and they are currently the only Linux distri putting their money where their mouth is in the SCO case. In fact, I'll be buying and installing more RH systems to support them!
Well I must say that was a surprise! I wasn't aware SCO actually still paid people to develop software. Tell me Kean, are you the last non-lawyer/scumbag at the company?
As far as I'm concerned, allowing a SCO employee to contribute to a GPL project is little different to allowing a child molester access to your children.
I've been saying this for ages! If only a few thousand people would start "visiting" spamvertised sites over and over again we could cause serious damage to their "business model". If the scum had to pay for several hundred gigs of bandwidth with no sales every time they ran out a batch of spam they might think twice next time (probably not, seeing as they're brainless scum themselves, but still we can hope).
Just when I'm trying to convince my higher-ups that emailing that graphics-laden instruction manual (10 MB) to everyone in the company is NOT a good idea.
We've adopted a name and shame policy at my company. Once we see some huge mailshot clogging up the server (eg, last Thursday one bright spark attempted to send a 4MB attachment to 8,000 customers) we announce it like so:
"To all staff; in case you're wondering why email/web/ftp access is slow, please direct your complaints to (INSERT LUSERNAME ). Despite the fact we've explained this issue to staff numerous times, this person has sent a huge mailshot out that will prevent all net access for the rest of the day."
Then we wait around for an hour or so (to give LUSER's colleagues a chance to give them a good hiding;-) before clearing the queue...
A lot of these posts are abot GNU or unix things--like gnome or NFS--. I wonder if the book uses the term linux generically to mean anything open source or if the book just includes kernel annoyances.
Well in my case I'd file the NFS+CD problem as a linux issue since NFS and CD filesystem support are compiled into the Linux kernel...
One annoying problem with NFS is that it will not release its hold on a CD, meaning that if you mount a CD, then share it via NFS, you cannot then unmount it unless you stop NFS first. I've found this extremely inconvenient at times.
Given that most of the people are not techies, they did not know how to ssh in and shutdown -r now, so they would just hit the reset button whenever they thought something was wrong and I wasn't around.
I've found users doing that to my servers before now. I find that hitting them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and shouting "No! Bad monkey!" in a stern voice tends to stop this behaviour...
here in the UK, the data protection act means (IANAL) that you must be provided with a copy of all footage of yourself if requested.
There was a series on UK TV a couple of years back - "The Mark Thomas Product", where the presenter urged members of the public to go into banks, garages and department stores, and dance about in front of a camera, so they could then demand any footage of themselves under the terms of the data-protection act. I thought that was a genius idea - imagine if a few thousand people did this at a bank; they'd be compelled to comply with requests, it'd be a nightmare for them;-)
Is this going to be made a part of Mozilla Firebird too? I hope not, because wasn't the whole point of Phoenix to avoid all of these extra "features" and just make a fast, no-frills browser?
You just can't please some people. If you want a fast, no-frills browser, use lynx. If you're using an OS browser, then I'm sure you can compile it without SVG support; see how it works??
This just proves you've never had to factor in hosting requirements/costs. If you can fit all your hardware into one or two 1u boxes, you're going to save an awful lot of money over a year compared to a bunch of desktops. This is assuming these small companies (mentioned in the article) haven't splashed out on fat pipes into their offices to serve from there (a security nightmare, since the OP seems to be a Windows donkey).
How about fixing the current filesystems?!
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Really, I think someone should get on with finishing the NTFS filesystem access in the kernel. With people migrating to XP it's really becoming more important that this driver is fixed (how long has it been declared "dangerous" for write use now?!).
I'd really like to know why this driver has taken so long to complete - is there some information that the developers don't have access to? Some technical reason? What?!
I actually meant not to build the kernel with specific support for the sound hardware in the machine. You would need soundcard support, just not the modules, (or building support for card X into the kernel). Otherwise (I'm guessing) the kernel would grab the soundcards first, and ALSA wouldn't be able to access them...
I've used SMS in the US for 3 years now and I have received 0 (read: ZERO) SMS-Spam and this is definately not due to the fact thta the sender has to pay for it, since they don't!
Well let's see if you're still saying that in a years time when the scumbags cotton on to the fact they can send junk to your phone for nothing. It's so obviously a bad idea I can't believe you're actually trying to defend your phone company charging YOU for the pleasure of receiving crap.
The sh*tbags that push junk mail/spam only do so since it's a cheap racket for them to make some fast cash. If they had to pay for each email/text message, they'd move on to conning little old ladies or some other scummy occupation.
On my Nokias I can turn off the ring tone for SMS independently of the normal voice tone. If you're not interested in SMS, just do this - after a while when your phone's memory fills with SMS messages it'll just refuse to accept any more.
Personally I couldn't be without SMS though. Much more efficient than voice a lot of the time.
Make the sender pay with what? A $0.05 credit card charge? Mail them a bill? Require them to establish an account beforehand?
If you make the sender pay, then you're severely reducing the usefulness of the service.
Please tell me you're joking here! You're honestly asking how a mobile phone user could pay to send an SMS message (data) when they already pay to make calls (more data). Pretty simple really, isn't it? You bill them per message - it's what we all do in Europe and it makes SMS spam prohibitively expensive (not to mention the fact it's also illegal and carries huge penalties now).
Like the previous poster, I'm now a big Gentoo fan, previously being mostly a Redhat user. I have no idea how good the hardware support is under Debian (which I presume you're using) - I only tried Deb once, and found it ridiculously outdated - I think the 2.2 kernel was still being used at the time, even though 2.4.10 or something was around.
Gentoo has been an absolute breeze to set up for servers, desktops and laptops. My Sony Vaio has accelerated 3D, sound, DVD - in fact everything - working. Likewise my servers and home desktop machine. I also use it at work every day, where it integrates mostly seamlessly with the Windows network (although I have to use iMap with the ancient exchange server).
Anyway, my point is, your hardware has been well supported for some considerable time now, and if you're SURE you're following the installation instructions for the modules correctly they really should "just work". I'm pretty sure I've had both those sound chipsets working straight after an install of Redhat 7 thru 9 without doing anything!
One thing I can think of, is that if you're using ALSA, you shouldn't be building the kernel modules (or compiling support into the kernel) for your sound cards. Also worth checking to see if the cards appear in/proc/pci - you can set the interrupts and base address in some soundcard drivers if they're not being probed correctly. Also again, with Gentoo you must add your user to the sound group to use sound with ALSA. Maybe remove one card to see if the other is "found" on its own.
the problem with client side web stuff, new browsers don't mean that you can stop supporting the older ones.
Not strictly true (for DHTML at any rate). Most people with any sense stopped bothering with Netscape 4 long ago. If you keep creating ugly hacks to make otherwise standards compliant code work for a broken browser, you just encourage the unwashed masses to keep on using the damned thing...
So a parlimentary group is is about to hold an enquiry with a view to forming a commitee to creating an organisation which will in turn look into way to implement new laws (which will require a consensus of opinion from a large number of countries) with a view to combating spam.
It's as good as over for Ralsky! Yep, in about 30 years he'll find it tough when the first law is passed!
Everybody knows European MPs (Member of Parliament) are next to useless anyway...
I think you're being a bit unfair here, almost ALL MPs are fucking useless, not just the European brand. And those that aren't complete morons are just plain dangerous...
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[Free products driving out proprietory software] ...and why you don't hear anything about webservers other than Apache and IIS.
;-)
As far as I'm aware, IIS is not, in fact, free. It's clearly not free of bugs, performance issues, horrific security flaws, and its image as the "Web server for bloody idiots" AKA the Internet Infection System
So they can't do anything about it except the post they just made.
... ah, who cares, SCO will be long dead before Samba v4 arrives so what does it matter ;-)
"Can't do anything" - that's defeatist thinking, man! It's my understanding that the author's copyright statements must be left intact when any software is distributed under the GPL. So... Why not display the author's copyright when Samba starts up (for 10 seconds or so) e.g. something like:
"Samba 3.x - Copyright Samba team. SCO ARE ATTEMPTING TO KILL OUR OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE!!!!"
Also maybe evolve Samba to become as SCO unfriendly as possible. Bind it to Linux and BSD libraries, accept patches to the main tree that willfully cause crashes on the SCO platform maybe...
why would teenagers message their friends that a movie stinks?
;-). Too many movies these days just show all the highlights in the trailers - so you've seen everything worth watching before you even pay for admission...
maybe, just maybe, it's because the movie stinks.
Damn straight. When a new movie appears, I pay no attention to the trailers or "Quotes" on the posters. I check IMDB, and ask friends who have seen it (of course, it helps if you have lemmings for friends who'll go and see anything
What these greedy manipulative cretins in Hollywood fail to realise is that their audiences aren't all braindead morons who'll slap down their cash with a dribbling moon-faced, slack-jawed grin after seeing their favourite overpaid, rude obnoxious actor/actress slapped up 12 feed high on a billboard. Well, excepting the Britney Spears fans I guess...
If you want to slashdot it, the IP address is visible in some of the screen shots. It's 169.254.226.132, but I'm not cruel enough to actually turn that into a hyperlink. :-)
Yeah, and anyone stupid enough to believe it'll work outside of a local network should also try 127.0.0.1 for a cool Pr0n site!
Well said. I'm also confused by all the RH bashing that takes place here. I run Gentoo and RH on various machines at home and work, and RH has been a great OS for me! True, it's a little bloated, and I don't use RPM at all due to its dependency problems, but the OS does work out of the box, and works well!
Redhat pay a lot of the main Linux coders, they offer their own training courses and they are currently the only Linux distri putting their money where their mouth is in the SCO case. In fact, I'll be buying and installing more RH systems to support them!
Well I must say that was a surprise! I wasn't aware SCO actually still paid people to develop software. Tell me Kean, are you the last non-lawyer/scumbag at the company?
As far as I'm concerned, allowing a SCO employee to contribute to a GPL project is little different to allowing a child molester access to your children.
No offence.
with a bit of luck it will lead to another huge influx of Linux developers who speak English
/. every day, it seems there's very few English Linux users who speak English.
From the standard of most of the stories/comments I read on
I've been saying this for ages! If only a few thousand people would start "visiting" spamvertised sites over and over again we could cause serious damage to their "business model". If the scum had to pay for several hundred gigs of bandwidth with no sales every time they ran out a batch of spam they might think twice next time (probably not, seeing as they're brainless scum themselves, but still we can hope).
Just when I'm trying to convince my higher-ups that emailing that graphics-laden instruction manual (10 MB) to everyone in the company is NOT a good idea.
;-) before clearing the queue...
We've adopted a name and shame policy at my company. Once we see some huge mailshot clogging up the server (eg, last Thursday one bright spark attempted to send a 4MB attachment to 8,000 customers) we announce it like so:
"To all staff; in case you're wondering why email/web/ftp access is slow, please direct your complaints to (INSERT LUSERNAME ). Despite the fact we've explained this issue to staff numerous times, this person has sent a huge mailshot out that will prevent all net access for the rest of the day."
Then we wait around for an hour or so (to give LUSER's colleagues a chance to give them a good hiding
A lot of these posts are abot GNU or unix things--like gnome or NFS--. I wonder if the book uses the term linux generically to mean anything open source or if the book just includes kernel annoyances.
Well in my case I'd file the NFS+CD problem as a linux issue since NFS and CD filesystem support are compiled into the Linux kernel...
One annoying problem with NFS is that it will not release its hold on a CD, meaning that if you mount a CD, then share it via NFS, you cannot then unmount it unless you stop NFS first. I've found this extremely inconvenient at times.
Given that most of the people are not techies, they did not know how to ssh in and shutdown -r now, so they would just hit the reset button whenever they thought something was wrong and I wasn't around.
I've found users doing that to my servers before now. I find that hitting them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and shouting "No! Bad monkey!" in a stern voice tends to stop this behaviour...
Could this be applied to wireless games on cell phones?
Why, that's just crazy talk!!
Oh yeah: "Duh!"
here in the UK, the data protection act means (IANAL) that you must be provided with a copy of all footage of yourself if requested.
;-)
There was a series on UK TV a couple of years back - "The Mark Thomas Product", where the presenter urged members of the public to go into banks, garages and department stores, and dance about in front of a camera, so they could then demand any footage of themselves under the terms of the data-protection act. I thought that was a genius idea - imagine if a few thousand people did this at a bank; they'd be compelled to comply with requests, it'd be a nightmare for them
Is this going to be made a part of Mozilla Firebird too? I hope not, because wasn't the whole point of Phoenix to avoid all of these extra "features" and just make a fast, no-frills browser?
You just can't please some people. If you want a fast, no-frills browser, use lynx. If you're using an OS browser, then I'm sure you can compile it without SVG support; see how it works??
This just proves you've never had to factor in hosting requirements/costs. If you can fit all your hardware into one or two 1u boxes, you're going to save an awful lot of money over a year compared to a bunch of desktops. This is assuming these small companies (mentioned in the article) haven't splashed out on fat pipes into their offices to serve from there (a security nightmare, since the OP seems to be a Windows donkey).
Really, I think someone should get on with finishing the NTFS filesystem access in the kernel. With people migrating to XP it's really becoming more important that this driver is fixed (how long has it been declared "dangerous" for write use now?!).
I'd really like to know why this driver has taken so long to complete - is there some information that the developers don't have access to? Some technical reason? What?!
I actually meant not to build the kernel with specific support for the sound hardware in the machine. You would need soundcard support, just not the modules, (or building support for card X into the kernel). Otherwise (I'm guessing) the kernel would grab the soundcards first, and ALSA wouldn't be able to access them...
I've used SMS in the US for 3 years now and I have received 0 (read: ZERO) SMS-Spam and this is definately not due to the fact thta the sender has to pay for it, since they don't!
Well let's see if you're still saying that in a years time when the scumbags cotton on to the fact they can send junk to your phone for nothing. It's so obviously a bad idea I can't believe you're actually trying to defend your phone company charging YOU for the pleasure of receiving crap.
The sh*tbags that push junk mail/spam only do so since it's a cheap racket for them to make some fast cash. If they had to pay for each email/text message, they'd move on to conning little old ladies or some other scummy occupation.
On my Nokias I can turn off the ring tone for SMS independently of the normal voice tone. If you're not interested in SMS, just do this - after a while when your phone's memory fills with SMS messages it'll just refuse to accept any more.
Personally I couldn't be without SMS though. Much more efficient than voice a lot of the time.
Make the sender pay with what? A $0.05 credit card charge? Mail them a bill? Require them to establish an account beforehand?
If you make the sender pay, then you're severely reducing the usefulness of the service.
Please tell me you're joking here! You're honestly asking how a mobile phone user could pay to send an SMS message (data) when they already pay to make calls (more data). Pretty simple really, isn't it? You bill them per message - it's what we all do in Europe and it makes SMS spam prohibitively expensive (not to mention the fact it's also illegal and carries huge penalties now).
Like the previous poster, I'm now a big Gentoo fan, previously being mostly a Redhat user. I have no idea how good the hardware support is under Debian (which I presume you're using) - I only tried Deb once, and found it ridiculously outdated - I think the 2.2 kernel was still being used at the time, even though 2.4.10 or something was around.
/proc/pci - you can set the interrupts and base address in some soundcard drivers if they're not being probed correctly. Also again, with Gentoo you must add your user to the sound group to use sound with ALSA. Maybe remove one card to see if the other is "found" on its own.
Gentoo has been an absolute breeze to set up for servers, desktops and laptops. My Sony Vaio has accelerated 3D, sound, DVD - in fact everything - working. Likewise my servers and home desktop machine. I also use it at work every day, where it integrates mostly seamlessly with the Windows network (although I have to use iMap with the ancient exchange server).
Anyway, my point is, your hardware has been well supported for some considerable time now, and if you're SURE you're following the installation instructions for the modules correctly they really should "just work". I'm pretty sure I've had both those sound chipsets working straight after an install of Redhat 7 thru 9 without doing anything!
One thing I can think of, is that if you're using ALSA, you shouldn't be building the kernel modules (or compiling support into the kernel) for your sound cards. Also worth checking to see if the cards appear in
the problem with client side web stuff, new browsers don't mean that you can stop supporting the older ones.
Not strictly true (for DHTML at any rate). Most people with any sense stopped bothering with Netscape 4 long ago. If you keep creating ugly hacks to make otherwise standards compliant code work for a broken browser, you just encourage the unwashed masses to keep on using the damned thing...
So a parlimentary group is is about to hold an enquiry with a view to forming a commitee to creating an organisation which will in turn look into way to implement new laws (which will require a consensus of opinion from a large number of countries) with a view to combating spam.
It's as good as over for Ralsky! Yep, in about 30 years he'll find it tough when the first law is passed!
Everybody knows European MPs (Member of Parliament) are next to useless anyway...
I think you're being a bit unfair here, almost ALL MPs are fucking useless, not just the European brand. And those that aren't complete morons are just plain dangerous...