The scripts have been able to install the kernel itself by itself for quite a while and also detect lilo or grub or whatever. I have no idea why people keep telling the n00bs to cp./arch/what/ever/
Because it doesn't work very well on all systems. I've tried the "make install" last stage and always ended up having to edit lilo.conf anyway to be sure the machines could boot afterward. Far easier to just mv the old bzImage and System.map (optional), then copy the new ones into the/boot partition and run lilo... Never failed me in years.
Grub, well, that's failed me several times, and I certainly wouldn't ever use it or recommend it again (unless you need a pretty boot screen and don't mind the risk).
If your boss is basing his buying descisions upon the views of a young person who only has experience with a single technology, he's a fool. I too use mainly linux servers, but also recognise the HPUX machines (and grudgingly the NT exchange servers - though I'm pushing to test SuSE's alternative) have their place.
Re:Kiss and say goodbye to Java language!!
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No its not. It really isn't - and this myth should die. Sun's 1.4 Java VM runs Java code at only 10-40% slower than the IDENTICAL C code. IBM's 1.4 Java VM can run Java numerica code FASTER than the identical C code.
Examples???
Re:Kiss and say goodbye to Java language!!
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No Java, no JSP man. Simply use PHP for web development. Forget Java man and go to PHP! PHP is 4 times faster than Java technology 'JSP' (Java server pages).
This tallies because compiled "C" program is 4 times faster than Java.
How on Earth was the above article modded as "interesting"? It's absolute garbage! I use both PHP and Java (and C from time to time) and Mr Coward's "statistics" have zero basis in reality. For one, C is a hell of a lot faster than Java or PHP (unless really really really badly written - like, you'd have to work hard at writing some real crap C code for it to be only 4 times as quick as Java). For another thing, it depends upon the application - Java does have an edge when there's heavy database use, due to it using a pool, rather than PHP's idea of locking a db connection to each httpd child process (which leads to the sight we see rather a lot here, of PHP sites "unable to connect to the database").
The fact that PHP is a "scripting language" should have clued AC in to the fact it's not actually "C" - it's being interpreted, which doesn't make it anywhere near as fast as C. I love PHP (used to use Perl, but never need to touch it any more - even for shell scripts) but I know it has limitations and is not always the best choice.
Well, anything that stops Balmer dancing about like a happy, sweaty monkey sounds good to me. I'm only surprised Windows scored so highly!
As an aside, we use Star Office at work on about half the Windows machines, but the people using it do seem to be envious of the staff with MS Office installed. Problems with printing multi-page spreadsheets/images, problems opening files etc, and lack of speed seem the biggest problems.
Although, since the sales/service people are still mostly using PIIs with 64-128MB of RAM, it's little wonder. I recently built OpenOffice on my Gentoo box to see how it compared, and it does seem a lot faster, even though my Gentoo machine has a slower CPU (Athlon 1.4ghz) than my office machine (2.4ghz P4 - although the office machine has a shit SiS onboard graphic chipset).
I doubt the management would like all the PCs building OO from source for 3 days though;-)
I want to know if you have ever had read access to proprietary Unix source code (not just binaries and documentation) under circumstances where either no non-disclosure agreement was required or whatever non-disclosure agreement you had was not enforced.
Well obviously I have - I've taken sneaky peeks at the linux kernel source on many occasions;-)
Erm, they both censor (BBC and SKY). If you've seen the video/DVD versions of certain episodes then you'll notice gaps in the TV editions. EG, the episode where Spike was boning the buffy-bot had quite a bit removed. Likewise the episode where the 3 stooges had convinced Buffy she'd killed that chick. The scene where she continually punches Spike's face to a pulp was cut completely from the TV feeds I watched...
I'm in the UK, and watched the finale last night courtesy of BT;-) In fact I've been watching the entire series 7 using Kazaa and BT - it's nice to be able to see the episodes without the censoring we get on Sky and the BBC over here... Of course, no adverts is also nice!
I'd like to see the offer some enterprise support, but it's really just not that kind of distro.
I'd just like to say here that I've found the #gentoo channel on undernet to be one of the friendliest and most helpful linux focused chatroom I've ever visited. I'd more or less given up on IRC due to the overwhelming number of arrogant assholes who've managed to somehow brown-nose their way to OP status, but this channel is very helpful.
... if you're in a position to help increase Linux' piece of the market, use it! I recently started a new job at a company running virtually all MS kit, but soon realised they were far from happy about the cost of renewing licenses and keeping tag of all their paperwork to prove they'd bought everything.
There was a glimmer of hope though, a couple of rack-mount linux boxes sitting idle. It was obvious that someone had attempted to set up some services at some point, but given up I presume so they were mostly badly configured or just plain broken. So I set to work in my (brief periods of) spare time. Samba, named, squid, apache, dhcpd, PHP, MySQL, iptables and some other bits and bobs later and just about everyone was impressed at how well they intgrated with the rest of the network. They actually make it much easier to manage the hundreds of Win98/2K PCs in use around the place! In fact, all server replacements/upgrades and additions will now be Linux boxes (currently changing all printing servers over too). I'm no hairy-chinned guru; so if I can manage this, I'm sure plenty of others (especially here) could take some time out to do some good;-)
The only hurdle is Exchange, although I'm sure the management would be thrilled to find a "Free" replacement without the quota limits (the version in use has a limit on the amount of disk space that can be used for mail storage, apparently you can pay more for a version with the FILESIZE_LIMIT=xxx constant set to -1;-) I've never tried the Linux exchange alternatives, but I'd be interested to hear of anyone who's done this...
Can't see the desktops changing over to KDE or Gnome, since the software just isn't available for our needs, but in the server room, MS is simply an innefficient and unnecessary expense.
I understand your viewpoint for most of the examples there (Flash especially - as having the source would mean I could actually compile it for my Mac PPC running Gentoo). However, I'm very happy with Nvidia releasing their own drivers for their own hardware. They work great, and I doubt anyone could do a better job. I believe that about any low-level hardware drivers; if they work well for my distros, then I'm happy. If they don't then I return the hardware (luckily many manufacturers, when they mention "Linux" compatibility, don't specify a distro, so you have a leg to stand on when returning the product).
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Not only that, but the Anti-aliasing examples look a bit suspicious to me.
I recently installed KDE 3.1 onto my Gentoo machine (it's usually a headless box, but I was curious to see the improvements in KDE). The sans-serif fonts were all very nice, but bring up Slashdot with the "Times" font and it looked horrific! I'm not saying that/. is the last word in beautiful Web design, but the anti-aliasing actually made it look worse. I might try throwing some Windows fonts onto the box to see if it's better at some point...
I'm not sure if I follow you with this. Are you suggesting the MTAs reject if the signature is invalid, or the recipient runs a client to drop bad sigs?
If the former, then this would add a huge CPU load to the MTAs processing millions of messages per day, wouldn't it? If the latter, then it's hardly going to help the bandwidth wastage we're already suffering...
This was the first game that really shook me up - even with the comparatively course graphics of the time. Recently, RTCW (single player) was pretty creepy in the catacomb levels...
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Well forging headers is only effective before you send the mail to a machine that's not under your control. So in ANY mail, you can trace the hops back until you hit an invalid domain or a discrepancy that indicates forgery. This is almost certainly the point at which the spam was injected.
If it's an open relay, then the "admin" there had better be keeping good logs, as this would be the only way to prove THEY hadn't injected the spam. Sorry, but you have to be ruthless to cure this apathy.
There's *always* a path back unless the spammer is calling from a stolen/pay-as-you-go mobile phone to a stolen account on some ISP. But then, how much throughput would they get?
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The messages can always be traced back to a source via the headers. The technology is there, but the political will to sue the asses off the miserable scum is not. The scumbags posting from DSL lines can be traced right back to their phone numbers since their ISP will (hopefully) know the account using the IP address, and presumably also the phone number used to dial in.
If the RIAA can subpeona customer details for P2P filesharing, surely the government agencies can smoke out these spamming shitballs. For off-shore spam havens, just have ALL ISPs block them. Prevent known spammers from registering new netblocks, or being involved with a company that does this. Change the law so the Ralsky's and other assorted human waste laughing in our faces as they get rich pushing filth into the 'net face prosecution and HUGE fines every time they go online.
Either that, or we could just all chip in and hire a few hit-men to get rid of the source of the problems the old fashioned way;-)
I actually meant 2 pop servers, not email addresses. So the customer could choose which feed to download mail from. It wasn't that clear from my article though. My bad...
Well I believe all ISPs should offer two separate pop addresses for their customers. One would be totally open - free to spew all manner of sewage from the scumbags sending spam. The other would be filtered. Subscribers would be free to choose which they used.
I'm guessing option 2 would see by far the most use. Hell, if the filter worked 90% of the time I'd use it at my ISP...
It's pretty simple to make their businesses unviable. Just visit the sites they're advertising! Not just once, not twice, but 24/7. Reload the biggest pages all day long everyone! Think a spamvertised company can still turn a profit while paying for 500GB bandwidth per day? I don't think so...
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The scripts have been able to install the kernel itself by itself for quite a while and also detect lilo or grub or whatever. I have no idea why people keep telling the n00bs to cp ./arch/what/ever/
/boot partition and run lilo... Never failed me in years.
Because it doesn't work very well on all systems. I've tried the "make install" last stage and always ended up having to edit lilo.conf anyway to be sure the machines could boot afterward. Far easier to just mv the old bzImage and System.map (optional), then copy the new ones into the
Grub, well, that's failed me several times, and I certainly wouldn't ever use it or recommend it again (unless you need a pretty boot screen and don't mind the risk).
If your boss is basing his buying descisions upon the views of a young person who only has experience with a single technology, he's a fool. I too use mainly linux servers, but also recognise the HPUX machines (and grudgingly the NT exchange servers - though I'm pushing to test SuSE's alternative) have their place.
No its not. It really isn't - and this myth should die.
Sun's 1.4 Java VM runs Java code at only 10-40% slower than
the IDENTICAL C code. IBM's 1.4 Java VM can run Java numerica
code FASTER than the identical C code.
Examples???
No Java, no JSP man. Simply use PHP for web development.
Forget Java man and go to PHP!
PHP is 4 times faster than Java technology 'JSP' (Java server pages).
This tallies because compiled "C" program is 4 times faster than Java.
How on Earth was the above article modded as "interesting"? It's absolute garbage! I use both PHP and Java (and C from time to time) and Mr Coward's "statistics" have zero basis in reality. For one, C is a hell of a lot faster than Java or PHP (unless really really really badly written - like, you'd have to work hard at writing some real crap C code for it to be only 4 times as quick as Java). For another thing, it depends upon the application - Java does have an edge when there's heavy database use, due to it using a pool, rather than PHP's idea of locking a db connection to each httpd child process (which leads to the sight we see rather a lot here, of PHP sites "unable to connect to the database").
The fact that PHP is a "scripting language" should have clued AC in to the fact it's not actually "C" - it's being interpreted, which doesn't make it anywhere near as fast as C. I love PHP (used to use Perl, but never need to touch it any more - even for shell scripts) but I know it has limitations and is not always the best choice.
and sent it to them next day mail. I signed it Linus Torvalds.
;-)
Well I sign all my mail "Rob Malda", especially my email - it seems to keep my own email address free of spam
Well, anything that stops Balmer dancing about like a happy, sweaty monkey sounds good to me. I'm only surprised Windows scored so highly!
;-)
As an aside, we use Star Office at work on about half the Windows machines, but the people using it do seem to be envious of the staff with MS Office installed. Problems with printing multi-page spreadsheets/images, problems opening files etc, and lack of speed seem the biggest problems.
Although, since the sales/service people are still mostly using PIIs with 64-128MB of RAM, it's little wonder. I recently built OpenOffice on my Gentoo box to see how it compared, and it does seem a lot faster, even though my Gentoo machine has a slower CPU (Athlon 1.4ghz) than my office machine (2.4ghz P4 - although the office machine has a shit SiS onboard graphic chipset).
I doubt the management would like all the PCs building OO from source for 3 days though
I want to know if you have ever had read access to proprietary Unix source code (not just binaries and documentation) under circumstances where either no non-disclosure agreement was required or whatever non-disclosure agreement you had was not enforced.
;-)
Well obviously I have - I've taken sneaky peeks at the linux kernel source on many occasions
Erm, they both censor (BBC and SKY). If you've seen the video/DVD versions of certain episodes then you'll notice gaps in the TV editions. EG, the episode where Spike was boning the buffy-bot had quite a bit removed. Likewise the episode where the 3 stooges had convinced Buffy she'd killed that chick. The scene where she continually punches Spike's face to a pulp was cut completely from the TV feeds I watched...
I'm in the UK, and watched the finale last night courtesy of BT ;-) In fact I've been watching the entire series 7 using Kazaa and BT - it's nice to be able to see the episodes without the censoring we get on Sky and the BBC over here... Of course, no adverts is also nice!
I'd like to see the offer some enterprise support, but it's really just not that kind of distro.
;-)
I'd just like to say here that I've found the #gentoo channel on undernet to be one of the friendliest and most helpful linux focused chatroom I've ever visited. I'd more or less given up on IRC due to the overwhelming number of arrogant assholes who've managed to somehow brown-nose their way to OP status, but this channel is very helpful.
That's it. I just felt like saying that
... if you're in a position to help increase Linux' piece of the market, use it! I recently started a new job at a company running virtually all MS kit, but soon realised they were far from happy about the cost of renewing licenses and keeping tag of all their paperwork to prove they'd bought everything.
;-)
;-) I've never tried the Linux exchange alternatives, but I'd be interested to hear of anyone who's done this...
There was a glimmer of hope though, a couple of rack-mount linux boxes sitting idle. It was obvious that someone had attempted to set up some services at some point, but given up I presume so they were mostly badly configured or just plain broken. So I set to work in my (brief periods of) spare time. Samba, named, squid, apache, dhcpd, PHP, MySQL, iptables and some other bits and bobs later and just about everyone was impressed at how well they intgrated with the rest of the network. They actually make it much easier to manage the hundreds of Win98/2K PCs in use around the place! In fact, all server replacements/upgrades and additions will now be Linux boxes (currently changing all printing servers over too). I'm no hairy-chinned guru; so if I can manage this, I'm sure plenty of others (especially here) could take some time out to do some good
The only hurdle is Exchange, although I'm sure the management would be thrilled to find a "Free" replacement without the quota limits (the version in use has a limit on the amount of disk space that can be used for mail storage, apparently you can pay more for a version with the FILESIZE_LIMIT=xxx constant set to -1
Can't see the desktops changing over to KDE or Gnome, since the software just isn't available for our needs, but in the server room, MS is simply an innefficient and unnecessary expense.
You know, I've got mod points today - I just wish I could tag the parent post "Fuckhead"...
I understand your viewpoint for most of the examples there (Flash especially - as having the source would mean I could actually compile it for my Mac PPC running Gentoo). However, I'm very happy with Nvidia releasing their own drivers for their own hardware. They work great, and I doubt anyone could do a better job. I believe that about any low-level hardware drivers; if they work well for my distros, then I'm happy. If they don't then I return the hardware (luckily many manufacturers, when they mention "Linux" compatibility, don't specify a distro, so you have a leg to stand on when returning the product).
Not only that, but the Anti-aliasing examples look a bit suspicious to me.
/. is the last word in beautiful Web design, but the anti-aliasing actually made it look worse. I might try throwing some Windows fonts onto the box to see if it's better at some point...
I recently installed KDE 3.1 onto my Gentoo machine (it's usually a headless box, but I was curious to see the improvements in KDE). The sans-serif fonts were all very nice, but bring up Slashdot with the "Times" font and it looked horrific! I'm not saying that
You could just install both...
;-). X on its own has been building all afternoon so far...
Well, yeah, but since it's a 400mhz iMac I don't fancy building both
I'm just building Gentoo on a new machine at the moment - was going to install Gnome, but I think I'll change to KDE now so I can play with this...
I'm not sure if I follow you with this. Are you suggesting the MTAs reject if the signature is invalid, or the recipient runs a client to drop bad sigs?
If the former, then this would add a huge CPU load to the MTAs processing millions of messages per day, wouldn't it? If the latter, then it's hardly going to help the bandwidth wastage we're already suffering...
Maybe Doom 3 will do better.
;-)
I think it will - after all, I think the cost of the hardware to run the game will scare the shit out of most people
This was the first game that really shook me up - even with the comparatively course graphics of the time. Recently, RTCW (single player) was pretty creepy in the catacomb levels...
Well forging headers is only effective before you send the mail to a machine that's not under your control. So in ANY mail, you can trace the hops back until you hit an invalid domain or a discrepancy that indicates forgery. This is almost certainly the point at which the spam was injected.
If it's an open relay, then the "admin" there had better be keeping good logs, as this would be the only way to prove THEY hadn't injected the spam. Sorry, but you have to be ruthless to cure this apathy.
There's *always* a path back unless the spammer is calling from a stolen/pay-as-you-go mobile phone to a stolen account on some ISP. But then, how much throughput would they get?
The messages can always be traced back to a source via the headers. The technology is there, but the political will to sue the asses off the miserable scum is not. The scumbags posting from DSL lines can be traced right back to their phone numbers since their ISP will (hopefully) know the account using the IP address, and presumably also the phone number used to dial in.
;-)
If the RIAA can subpeona customer details for P2P filesharing, surely the government agencies can smoke out these spamming shitballs. For off-shore spam havens, just have ALL ISPs block them. Prevent known spammers from registering new netblocks, or being involved with a company that does this. Change the law so the Ralsky's and other assorted human waste laughing in our faces as they get rich pushing filth into the 'net face prosecution and HUGE fines every time they go online.
Either that, or we could just all chip in and hire a few hit-men to get rid of the source of the problems the old fashioned way
I actually meant 2 pop servers, not email addresses. So the customer could choose which feed to download mail from. It wasn't that clear from my article though. My bad...
Well I believe all ISPs should offer two separate pop addresses for their customers. One would be totally open - free to spew all manner of sewage from the scumbags sending spam. The other would be filtered. Subscribers would be free to choose which they used.
I'm guessing option 2 would see by far the most use. Hell, if the filter worked 90% of the time I'd use it at my ISP...
Would it be funny or just then ?
Yes. In fact I'd pay to watch...
It's pretty simple to make their businesses unviable. Just visit the sites they're advertising! Not just once, not twice, but 24/7. Reload the biggest pages all day long everyone! Think a spamvertised company can still turn a profit while paying for 500GB bandwidth per day? I don't think so...