I think VS.NET will shine in the classroom
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Think about it. VS.NET would be a dream come true for CS lecturers. You basically install one run time and can teach the nuances of programming in different languages alot more elegantly. I mean, students can easily now find out why it was a good or bad idea to leave enums for example out of Java. Or compare delegates to function pointers. As more languages get added to the fray (Python.NET and Perl.NET are underway as we speak) it would be a great teaching aid.
You know, here's where I think too many Slashdotters are hypocrites. First they say I have Linux running on a 486 or a P100 or whatever old computer that can't run MS's bloated OS. I mean Christ 128 meg of RAM??? etc etc. Then they root for a technology they can't even use on those same computers.
What gives?
Re:Good to see desktop enviroments live and well
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err, precisely when did "MS" say linux on the desktop was dead? References please.
I like your use of the word "forcing" even though you've put it in quotes to imply joviality. You should have also pt in quotes the entire sentence...'The best way to learn something is under pressure'
So let me get this straight, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...you think the only way to get non geek people to use Linux is to force it on them?
Gee.
err, what exactly do you mean by, your average Windows programmer? What is a Windows programmer? If a Windows programmer uses C++ what is he? How about Java? How about Python or Perl? What do you mean by Windows programmer? I suppose you call yourself a Linux/Unix programmer. What does that mean? Do you patch kernels? What do you mean?
Knucklehead with a superiority complex, that's what I think YOU are.
err, I live and work in the tech industry in South Africa. Yes crime is high here, but I'm curious as to where it is that you live. You don't get hijacked just anywhere. I'd like to see you walking around in Harlem at night too. But wait, Harlem is a black district so I guess I'm shooting myself in the foot there.
Ah well, I can't win.
But after all the cloning they've done of Microsoft products, I beg to differ. The interesting thing for me here, is that it just shows how much people hate Microsoft for the sake of it. Rather than say..."wow, what they're trying to do is very cool from a technology standpoint" they stand there and yell,.NET sucks!!! It won't work!!! We don't need it!!! And now look.
You all love and respect Miguel right? Well he happens to think.NET and C# are cool. So what do you think of him now?
Someone earlier mentioned the fact that without Microsoft, linux development would become sloppy as there would be noone to race against. Well I think it works both ways. I'd argue that MS was at it's sloppiest when Linux and other competitors were not serious threats. All Linux has done is re-awoken the dragon. It's actually cool for the end user. We get better products from Redmond now because they know they can't afford to slip up. Thank you Linux, for helping to make my Windows2000 box so stable!
Think about it. VS.NET would be a dream come true for CS lecturers. You basically install one run time and can teach the nuances of programming in different languages alot more elegantly. I mean, students can easily now find out why it was a good or bad idea to leave enums for example out of Java. Or compare delegates to function pointers. As more languages get added to the fray (Python.NET and Perl.NET are underway as we speak) it would be a great teaching aid.
>this is such a classic microsoft-ism: thinking >up a really good idea, and totally fucking up >the implementation ([d]com, ole, activex, etc).
err, all the above are esentially the same. We call them COM based technologies. Don't let MS marketing dept get to you.
And, by saying that COM is poorly implemented technology, just how do you mean? I suppose CORBA is great. EJB's even better.
Please refrain from making such statements if you have no proof of what you're talking about.
Regards
Chandas
You know, here's where I think too many Slashdotters are hypocrites. First they say I have Linux running on a 486 or a P100 or whatever old computer that can't run MS's bloated OS. I mean Christ 128 meg of RAM??? etc etc. Then they root for a technology they can't even use on those same computers. What gives?
err, precisely when did "MS" say linux on the desktop was dead? References please.
I like your use of the word "forcing" even though you've put it in quotes to imply joviality. You should have also pt in quotes the entire sentence...'The best way to learn something is under pressure' So let me get this straight, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...you think the only way to get non geek people to use Linux is to force it on them? Gee.
err, what exactly do you mean by, your average Windows programmer? What is a Windows programmer? If a Windows programmer uses C++ what is he? How about Java? How about Python or Perl? What do you mean by Windows programmer? I suppose you call yourself a Linux/Unix programmer. What does that mean? Do you patch kernels? What do you mean? Knucklehead with a superiority complex, that's what I think YOU are.
err, I live and work in the tech industry in South Africa. Yes crime is high here, but I'm curious as to where it is that you live. You don't get hijacked just anywhere. I'd like to see you walking around in Harlem at night too. But wait, Harlem is a black district so I guess I'm shooting myself in the foot there. Ah well, I can't win.
But after all the cloning they've done of Microsoft products, I beg to differ. The interesting thing for me here, is that it just shows how much people hate Microsoft for the sake of it. Rather than say..."wow, what they're trying to do is very cool from a technology standpoint" they stand there and yell, .NET sucks!!! It won't work!!! We don't need it!!! And now look.
You all love and respect Miguel right? Well he happens to think .NET and C# are cool. So what do you think of him now?
Someone earlier mentioned the fact that without Microsoft, linux development would become sloppy as there would be noone to race against. Well I think it works both ways. I'd argue that MS was at it's sloppiest when Linux and other competitors were not serious threats. All Linux has done is re-awoken the dragon. It's actually cool for the end user. We get better products from Redmond now because they know they can't afford to slip up. Thank you Linux, for helping to make my Windows2000 box so stable!