My great grandfather died 2 years ago at the ripe age of 104. He ate a fry up/every/ morning with copious amounts of bacon, smoked more pipes than popeye, drank whiskey literally all the time.
My grandmother was given 2 years to live 30 years ago due to heart problems. She still knocks back the bottle and fries chips in lard twice a week.
No - you are actually totally clueless here and are just trying to get karma by jumping on the anti-Java bandwagon.
No our application is not contributing any such risk whatsoever:
1. We shipped the JVM with the application in its own standalone directory. No applets, no browser plugins. It's launched by a wrapper exe on windows and a script on Linux+Solaris. Basically it runs java[.exe] -jar application.jar. There is no target vector for this exploit.
Last place I worked, I was the lead architect for a real-time patient care system deployed to 120,000 users across 2500 hospital sites around western Europe across Windows, Linux and Solaris platforms.
It stopped the users' patients from dying, so they are quite happy with it as are their patients. It is incredibly fast (2 orders of magnitude faster than the C++ based MFC native Windows app our competitor was throwing out), it has had no downtime (ever!) by nature of the architecture which must not go down under any circumstance (everything was fully distributed), the UI definitely does not suck and it's certainly not bloated at 52Mb including the JVM (our competitor hit 2Gb including the local SQL server instance installation).
What do you propose we use instead and how do you propose we start rewriting the 1.9 million lines of code we've already got?
There genuinely isn't anything out there which matches it at any level simply because you can kick out functionality that works and has test coverage in unbelievably short amounts of time. I discount C#/.Net because the community is shitty and it is definitely not cross platform (sorry Mono - but you don't do WWF+WCF+WPF properly so you don't count).
There is no post-Java (yet).
Please don't mention virtualization - stupid fucking idea designed to generate even more revenue from people who don't actually get the fact that their servers can run more than one cleanly isolated process without having to invoke a VSphere license cost...
I'm sure if you don't watch it from end to end, you won't miss Jesus riding in on a dinosaur of the voice of God telling Dawkin's to shut the fuck up. No magic snakes, no apple trees, no incestuous events, no stonings and definitely no baby slapping out of the vagina of a virgin.
They are just licenses these days. They are not tangible so it's hard to apply property rights to them.
It's a great business model though - you have to buy it again rather than passing it on through death or disinterest.
This sort of shit disgusts me, so I still buy real books and CDs. If new content is not being produced in this way, there is still plenty to read and listen to.
He has volunteered to be extradited to Sweden to face the allegations, but only if they guarantee he will not be extradited to the US. They couldn't promise that so no banana.
We've just thrown £9.3 billion at a load of running, jumping, swimming, mr Bean, Boris stuck dangling on a wire, nothing on television and a bunch of missiles on a council block. Paying for Assange is a good investment compared to that.
Well actually no. It proves that we will break international extradition and asylum treaties on a political whim...
Assange said he'd willingly go to Sweden to face charges if they guaranteed it wasn't a ploy to extradite him to the US. They could not guarantee that which is why he's seeking asylum. He's not trying to escape the allegations.
I think the guy is an asshat generally, but he's right on this one.
Yes I was clarifying the source of the comment as requested by the OP.
However, the paratroopers or at least armed police WILL be sent in the moment they revoke the diplomatic immunity of the Ecuadorian Embassy which IS their legal route to arresting him.
He stated that he would go to Stockholm to face his allegations, but only if they guaranteed that they would not extradite him to the US. The Swedish government confirmed that they couldn't promise that.
That is the human rights violation - it's effectively a one stop trip to Guantanamo for him without a rape trial.
Assange is being very reasonable, but only if International Treaties such as the Vienna Convention are adhered to.
I imagine that other countries with embassies in the UK are now starting to sound a little worried as if the government are threatening Ecuador, then what are they going to face potentially?
This is not going to end well, possibly due to other countries.
The Magna Carta has been pretty useless for at least a century. Unfortunately, unlike some software licenses, there are ways to amend it to insignificance which they have taken to the extreme.
Time will come where the rulers when society will descend into the ruling class and the rest. A small proportion of "the rest" will be responsible for fixing the above mistake.
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My great grandfather died 2 years ago at the ripe age of 104. He ate a fry up /every/ morning with copious amounts of bacon, smoked more pipes than popeye, drank whiskey literally all the time.
My grandmother was given 2 years to live 30 years ago due to heart problems. She still knocks back the bottle and fries chips in lard twice a week.
There is no magic balance.
No - you are actually totally clueless here and are just trying to get karma by jumping on the anti-Java bandwagon.
No our application is not contributing any such risk whatsoever:
1. We shipped the JVM with the application in its own standalone directory. No applets, no browser plugins. It's launched by a wrapper exe on windows and a script on Linux+Solaris. Basically it runs java[.exe] -jar application.jar. There is no target vector for this exploit.
2. we ship JVM 1.6 which is not vulnerable.
3. It uses SWT which looks native on all platforms - look it's not ugly at all: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/
*choke* OpenJDK?
Dear Blakey Troll,
Java desktop application guy here
Last place I worked, I was the lead architect for a real-time patient care system deployed to 120,000 users across 2500 hospital sites around western Europe across Windows, Linux and Solaris platforms.
It stopped the users' patients from dying, so they are quite happy with it as are their patients. It is incredibly fast (2 orders of magnitude faster than the C++ based MFC native Windows app our competitor was throwing out), it has had no downtime (ever!) by nature of the architecture which must not go down under any circumstance (everything was fully distributed), the UI definitely does not suck and it's certainly not bloated at 52Mb including the JVM (our competitor hit 2Gb including the local SQL server instance installation).
What do you propose we use instead and how do you propose we start rewriting the 1.9 million lines of code we've already got?
There genuinely isn't anything out there which matches it at any level simply because you can kick out functionality that works and has test coverage in unbelievably short amounts of time. I discount C#/.Net because the community is shitty and it is definitely not cross platform (sorry Mono - but you don't do WWF+WCF+WPF properly so you don't count).
There is no post-Java (yet).
Please don't mention virtualization - stupid fucking idea designed to generate even more revenue from people who don't actually get the fact that their servers can run more than one cleanly isolated process without having to invoke a VSphere license cost...
Sorry but I'd have the balls to do kill myself before I get there (if it is indeed degenerative).
A philosophical point, but literally it can be taken like this:
Right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdU-UtEJEIA - I'm one of the numerous unshaved guys with the glasses. I am the least unshaved "unshaved" guy.
I'm sure if you don't watch it from end to end, you won't miss Jesus riding in on a dinosaur of the voice of God telling Dawkin's to shut the fuck up. No magic snakes, no apple trees, no incestuous events, no stonings and definitely no baby slapping out of the vagina of a virgin.
Sorry if it bores you.
Perhaps you should deal with them in the style of Death Race 2000 (not the shitty remake)?
I don't get the fact that the legal system has to be involved. It shows how little control we perceive that we have which is not true.
You can murder a load of people if you really want and get chucked in jail (Brevik for example).
You can steal stuff and get chucked in jail.
You can cut your own fingers off and post them to the president and you'll get chucked in a nut farm.
The pattern above is consequences.
There are no applicable consequences if you are dead. Assisted suicide is easy enough to "configure" without incriminating any other parties.
Plenty of people kill themselves successfully without satisfying any legal conditions.
Despite the invitations, neither Jesus or God ever showed up to an event I was invited to. Dawkins did.
They are just licenses these days. They are not tangible so it's hard to apply property rights to them.
It's a great business model though - you have to buy it again rather than passing it on through death or disinterest.
This sort of shit disgusts me, so I still buy real books and CDs. If new content is not being produced in this way, there is still plenty to read and listen to.
There pretty much aren't any.
What we need is a fully open HDL SoC which can be built on silicon (by vendors) or inside an FPGA.
The nearest thing there is to it is the Loongson so far...
USADA, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah. Hmm... corporate justice rules again.
They don't sell anything here.
All they do is polish stuff that kids have wiped McDonalds all over and feel important.
This is the most insightful comment I've read on Slashdot. I wish I had mod points.
You're an uninformed troll.
He has volunteered to be extradited to Sweden to face the allegations, but only if they guarantee he will not be extradited to the US. They couldn't promise that so no banana.
I'd do the same.
As a high rate taxpayer in the UK, I don't mind.
We've just thrown £9.3 billion at a load of running, jumping, swimming, mr Bean, Boris stuck dangling on a wire, nothing on television and a bunch of missiles on a council block. Paying for Assange is a good investment compared to that.
They aren't making deals. He's trying to get a fair unbiased trial for one **allegation** which he has not been charged for.
I'd rather go t oa 3rd world dictatorship than face this 1st world tyranny...
Well actually no. It proves that we will break international extradition and asylum treaties on a political whim...
Assange said he'd willingly go to Sweden to face charges if they guaranteed it wasn't a ploy to extradite him to the US. They could not guarantee that which is why he's seeking asylum. He's not trying to escape the allegations.
I think the guy is an asshat generally, but he's right on this one.
Yes I was clarifying the source of the comment as requested by the OP.
However, the paratroopers or at least armed police WILL be sent in the moment they revoke the diplomatic immunity of the Ecuadorian Embassy which IS their legal route to arresting him.
He stated that he would go to Stockholm to face his allegations, but only if they guaranteed that they would not extradite him to the US. The Swedish government confirmed that they couldn't promise that.
That is the human rights violation - it's effectively a one stop trip to Guantanamo for him without a rape trial.
Assange is being very reasonable, but only if International Treaties such as the Vienna Convention are adhered to.
Channel 4 stated that the UK government were going to storm the Ecuadorian embassy this morning on television.
Let's not forget this fuck up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Embassy_siege
I imagine that other countries with embassies in the UK are now starting to sound a little worried as if the government are threatening Ecuador, then what are they going to face potentially?
This is not going to end well, possibly due to other countries.
The Magna Carta has been pretty useless for at least a century. Unfortunately, unlike some software licenses, there are ways to amend it to insignificance which they have taken to the extreme.
Time will come where the rulers when society will descend into the ruling class and the rest. A small proportion of "the rest" will be responsible for fixing the above mistake.
So when are youtube's owning stake in the UK being locked up for this one then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBn4RMTU9SU (the crow - full movie)