Yes. I think that is there to distract you from parts of it like this:
Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights.
There is a huge section about forfiture. Now copyright infringment is the same a trafficking drugs or terrorism.
Look at what this bill proposes to add to the DMCA:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
It's even worse then you think when you read down through it: "Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
Forfiture for DMCA acusation that requires no underlying copyright infringment. Or have I read that worng?
It's even worse then that. Using the same logic/arguments the War on Drugs has used to expand forfiture to anything they want to sell for money and apling it to copyright infringment means that not jsut yor computer, but your house or car (could be used to store/transport pirate media) are also fair game.
Check out this part: "Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
So now forfiture is added to DMCA violations (and we know how easy it is to make false claims and take down servers) that do not require an underlying breach of copyright law.
One thing no one seems to be talking about is the forfiture part of it.
All it takes is (using RIAA/MPAA math) a few cd's or dvd's worth of downloads (especially on a p2p platform) and they can take your stuff.
"* Allow computers to be seized more readily. Specifically, property such as a PC "intended to be used in any manner" to commit a copyright crime would be subject to forfeiture, including civil asset forfeiture. Civil asset forfeiture has become popular among police agencies in drug cases as a way to gain additional revenue, and it is problematic and controversial."
They can argue your car/house/any possession they can sell for some quick cash is intended to bu used in commiting the copyright crime (car for transport, house as a base of operations).
Also check this out:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
So now a easy to fake/trump up DMCA violation can cause someone to lose personal property who might not have actually commited a breach of copyright.
So did crime go up in surrounding counties? If so could those counties blame the increase of firearms (just being silly)? So in a way the firearms did cause more crime (just not where they were) if that was the case.
For some reason this make me thing about the panhandler episode of South Park I saw recently.
Thats better then the dude who is a registered sex offender because he "restrained a minor" when after nearly running her over he got out of his car (foolish IMO) and lectured her on the importants of looking before stepping into the street so as to not get run over. I saw it on/. so it may or may not be true.
"Maybe his chain could have been shot off the door. I can imagine a number of mechanisms."
Mythbusters covered the whole shooting locks thing, I think there would be more danger of students dying from ricochet. The problem with imagination is it isn't real or reality based a majority of the time.
To quote Han Solo "I cam imagine an awful lot".
Lets say you imaginary well armed student body is doing the daily class thing. Now my imaginary nutjob with an imaginary point to make drives up to the imaginary building with an imaginary uhaul (not an unusual thing for a number of reasons). It then imaginairly explodes with the nutjob in it, taking out at least half the building (think Oklahoma City).
Many imaginary people have died and the imaginary guns did not save them from the imaginary bomb.
Now that was all hypotheoreticalastic.
It's as much of a sure thing as all the "If...." people posting in this thread. Sure there is a chance the well armed students at VT would have stopped him and then free kittens would be given out. Things might have turned out no different then they did for a number of reasons. Possibly it could have some how been worse.
I seem to remember seeing out of the corner of my eye a tv show that had about an hours footage of various driving incidents that ended with people shooting at the other driver/each other. This was an america show with as far as I could tell footage all from american incidents.
My observation is that bad drivers, guns, and anger do not make for polite discorse on the fine points of proper vehicle operation.
When people are angry it seems they can easily justify using a gun to show they are right, even over a trivial thing. Ususally it's because there is a larger non trivial thing that is bothering them,but the trivial thing is "the last straw" so to speak.
In one class, only four people were left mobile (only 2 were completely uninjured) by the time he needed to reload. From the way they tell it until he left the room they each thought everyone else was dead.
This new science amazes me, explain again how a 3 pound german texbook (Deutsch: Na klar! An Introductory German Course (Student Edition) (Hardcover)) may be employed to stop deranged shooters from twenty feet away?
Oh look, a bunch of internet tough guys with fantasies of how they would have saved the day (you and the others).
"I can't comprehend why everyone apparently just rolled over and waited to die."
They didn't.
How about all of you actually read the survivors accounts instead of calling them sheep and wusses for dieing after being shot several times.
It would have been great if the situation turned out with less loss of life, but don't shit on the victims because they don't live up to your action movie induced fantasy scenario.
The desks were not any sort of protection according to accounts. From my experience in higher education settings many will be fixed to the floor so no chance of tossing them, same goes for the chairs.
Did you know that the bodies (according to the doctor examining them) of the deceased had at least 3 bullet wounds. The 9mm he was using was loaded with hollow point rounds. I don't know what ammo was used in the.22 but I bet more of the same. If you don't know what a hollow point round does to living things, I suggest you see how up for action you are after a few have been fired into you.
In one classroom, after his first volley everyone was on the floor, only about 4 were alive/uninjured enough to move. When he left and they did shut the door. They held the door when he came back and he started firing through it.
Another kid said he was shot at and missed four times, so he dropped and played dead. The shooter stopped firing and went looking for other targets.
One professor held the door and prevented the shooter from entering the classroom while the students escaped. He was shot 5 times and died.
Another professor attempted to barricade a door and was killed as were some of the students.
A few rooms managed to block the door and prevent him from gaining access.
A few more people died while confronting/distracting him from others.
In another room the only survivor was pinned under another person. Sure I guess he could have gotten up and tried to do something while the shooter was walking from body to body putting additional rounds into them, but chances are he would have just gotten killed. In fact the student on top of him blocked any shots from hitting him. What would you have him do in that situation (other then what he did) that would not have ended up with him dead?
I'm sorry if my tone is angry and hostile, it took me several rewrites to bring the tone down to what I consider an acceptable level.
That said, I am disgusted by you people and you disgrace the memory of those who tried to/did do something. I think the proper current saying is "Go die in a fire!". It is not right, I should not be thinking that about people I don't know, but why should I afford you more thought then you gave those people?
Halo was fun for me (PC version) until I hit the areas with multiple copies of the same room in a row. I actually got turned around and backtracked a bunch before I figured out that happened. Another point where it became not fun was the library level. I can see what they wanted, but they drug it out too long and it just got annoying. It also suffered from the same problem as the earlier area I got turned around in, and at that point in the game that kind of mix-up could get you a game over. That means starting the damn level over again.
I'm not saying the level design was Oni bad, but it could have used a little less repetition/mirroring/genericism.
I hope someday more level designers will say to themselves "What does this room get used for and what will it look like after it has been used for a while" and work towards that. The only thing that sould end up cookie cutter are large warehouse compleses (contents better varry enough to make some mental map) and houses from Poltergeist.
Halflife 1 while not perfect it did seem to have an eye towards that concept in a lot of areas.
Have you heard any of the recent dubbed games. it sounds like they asked the cleaning staff to come in an hour early. Most games developed and acted in their native tongue (Prince of Persia for instance) tend to be much better acted then what we see in the overdubs (AR Tonelico only has english dub cutscenes, the pain!). This excludes the "it will be cool to talk in english" titles like Biohazard/Resident Evil "I hope this isnt chrises blood". I do note they have gotten better with that.
I think if anyone could make those subjects into games that are fun to play it would be him, he helped with Chibi-Robo.
Chibi-robo made cleaning, dealing with vermin, cooking dinner, domestic trouble, irresponsible spending, traumatized children and shattered dreams fun.
I live up in Ohio. We sometimes get days where when I start up the car it tells me it's -15 out. So far I have only seen the hybrid system "too cold" indicator (turtle) once since 2002 when I purchased the car (gen 1 model).
In our cold winters I am not noticing the huge mileage drop you see during yours. But my trips are all over 10-20 miles except for the occasional (once or twice a week) 5 mile trip.
The car seems to be warmed up to operating temp (the blue thermometer light turns off) before I make it 3 miles up the road in the above winter conditions.
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Yes. I think that is there to distract you from parts of it like this:
Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and
restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution
provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also
consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that
were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a
violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element
of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders
in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights.
There is a huge section about forfiture. Now copyright infringment is the same a trafficking drugs or terrorism.
Look at what this bill proposes to add to the DMCA:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and
restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution
provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also
consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that
were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a
violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element
of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders
in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
"properly bought and audited by the BSA"
Sounds like Scientology to me.
It's even worse then you think when you read down through it:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and
restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution
provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also
consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that
were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a
violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element
of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders
in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
Forfiture for DMCA acusation that requires no underlying copyright infringment. Or have I read that worng?
It's even worse then that.
Using the same logic/arguments the War on Drugs has used to expand forfiture to anything they want to sell for money and apling it to copyright infringment means that not jsut yor computer, but your house or car (could be used to store/transport pirate media) are also fair game.
Check out this part:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and
restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution
provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also
consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that
were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a
violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element
of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders
in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
So now forfiture is added to DMCA violations (and we know how easy it is to make false claims and take down servers) that do not require an underlying breach of copyright law.
One thing no one seems to be talking about is the forfiture part of it.
All it takes is (using RIAA/MPAA math) a few cd's or dvd's worth of downloads (especially on a p2p platform) and they can take your stuff.
"* Allow computers to be seized more readily. Specifically, property such as a PC "intended to be used in any manner" to commit a copyright crime would be subject to forfeiture, including civil asset forfeiture. Civil asset forfeiture has become popular among police agencies in drug cases as a way to gain additional revenue, and it is problematic and controversial."
They can argue your car/house/any possession they can sell for some quick cash is intended to bu used in commiting the copyright crime (car for transport, house as a base of operations).
Also check this out:
"Section 6 of the Administration's proposal would create new forfeiture, destruction, and
restitution provisions for the offenses contained in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
("DMCA). This provision has been harmonized with the other forfeiture and restitution
provisions contained in the bill, as descrihed in the discussion of subsection 4(b), and is also
consistent with the forfeiture, destruction, and restitution provisions for counterfeiting cases that
were enacted in 2006 as part of the Stop Counterfeiting in Manufactured Goods Act. Although a
violation of the DMCA does not require an underlying infringement of a copyright as an element
of the offense. the restitution provision is tailored to provide for restitution to copyright holders
in those cases where the offense conduct does involve violation of a copyright owner's rights."
So now a easy to fake/trump up DMCA violation can cause someone to lose personal property who might not have actually commited a breach of copyright.
His earlier young adult stuff, most short stories and books like the door into summer and have spacesuit were not creapy or that bad IMO.
"Good people outnumber murderous madmen by thousands to one."
I'd like to think the odds are many orders of magnitude better then that.
So did crime go up in surrounding counties?
If so could those counties blame the increase of firearms (just being silly)? So in a way the firearms did cause more crime (just not where they were) if that was the case.
For some reason this make me thing about the panhandler episode of South Park I saw recently.
Ever been in a classroom where the desks are attached to the floor (usually fold out style) as are the chairs?
Havent you seen Mean Guns?
Thats better then the dude who is a registered sex offender because he "restrained a minor" when after nearly running her over he got out of his car (foolish IMO) and lectured her on the importants of looking before stepping into the street so as to not get run over. I saw it on /. so it may or may not be true.
"Maybe his chain could have been shot off the door. I can imagine a number of mechanisms."
Mythbusters covered the whole shooting locks thing, I think there would be more danger of students dying from ricochet. The problem with imagination is it isn't real or reality based a majority of the time.
To quote Han Solo "I cam imagine an awful lot".
Lets say you imaginary well armed student body is doing the daily class thing. Now my imaginary nutjob with an imaginary point to make drives up to the imaginary building with an imaginary uhaul (not an unusual thing for a number of reasons). It then imaginairly explodes with the nutjob in it, taking out at least half the building (think Oklahoma City).
Many imaginary people have died and the imaginary guns did not save them from the imaginary bomb.
Now that was all hypotheoreticalastic.
It's as much of a sure thing as all the "If...." people posting in this thread.
Sure there is a chance the well armed students at VT would have stopped him and then free kittens would be given out. Things might have turned out no different then they did for a number of reasons. Possibly it could have some how been worse.
I seem to remember seeing out of the corner of my eye a tv show that had about an hours footage of various driving incidents that ended with people shooting at the other driver/each other. This was an america show with as far as I could tell footage all from american incidents.
,but the trivial thing is "the last straw" so to speak.
My observation is that bad drivers, guns, and anger do not make for polite discorse on the fine points of proper vehicle operation.
When people are angry it seems they can easily justify using a gun to show they are right, even over a trivial thing. Ususally it's because there is a larger non trivial thing that is bothering them
Dude, you are in a library. You have all the ammo you need to take down a shooter.
In one class, only four people were left mobile (only 2 were completely uninjured) by the time he needed to reload. From the way they tell it until he left the room they each thought everyone else was dead.
This new science amazes me, explain again how a 3 pound german texbook (Deutsch: Na klar! An Introductory German Course (Student Edition) (Hardcover)) may be employed to stop deranged shooters from twenty feet away?
Oh look, a bunch of internet tough guys with fantasies of how they would have saved the day (you and the others).
.22 but I bet more of the same. If you don't know what a hollow point round does to living things, I suggest you see how up for action you are after a few have been fired into you.
"I can't comprehend why everyone apparently just rolled over and waited to die."
They didn't.
How about all of you actually read the survivors accounts instead of calling them sheep and wusses for dieing after being shot several times.
It would have been great if the situation turned out with less loss of life, but don't shit on the victims because they don't live up to your action movie induced fantasy scenario.
The desks were not any sort of protection according to accounts. From my experience in higher education settings many will be fixed to the floor so no chance of tossing them, same goes for the chairs.
Did you know that the bodies (according to the doctor examining them) of the deceased had at least 3 bullet wounds. The 9mm he was using was loaded with hollow point rounds. I don't know what ammo was used in the
In one classroom, after his first volley everyone was on the floor, only about 4 were alive/uninjured enough to move. When he left and they did shut the door. They held the door when he came back and he started firing through it.
Another kid said he was shot at and missed four times, so he dropped and played dead. The shooter stopped firing and went looking for other targets.
One professor held the door and prevented the shooter from entering the classroom while the students escaped. He was shot 5 times and died.
Another professor attempted to barricade a door and was killed as were some of the students.
A few rooms managed to block the door and prevent him from gaining access.
A few more people died while confronting/distracting him from others.
In another room the only survivor was pinned under another person. Sure I guess he could have gotten up and tried to do something while the shooter was walking from body to body putting additional rounds into them, but chances are he would have just gotten killed. In fact the student on top of him blocked any shots from hitting him. What would you have him do in that situation (other then what he did) that would not have ended up with him dead?
I'm sorry if my tone is angry and hostile, it took me several rewrites to bring the tone down to what I consider an acceptable level.
That said, I am disgusted by you people and you disgrace the memory of those who tried to/did do something. I think the proper current saying is "Go die in a fire!". It is not right, I should not be thinking that about people I don't know, but why should I afford you more thought then you gave those people?
Halo was fun for me (PC version) until I hit the areas with multiple copies of the same room in a row. I actually got turned around and backtracked a bunch before I figured out that happened. Another point where it became not fun was the library level. I can see what they wanted, but they drug it out too long and it just got annoying. It also suffered from the same problem as the earlier area I got turned around in, and at that point in the game that kind of mix-up could get you a game over. That means starting the damn level over again.
I'm not saying the level design was Oni bad, but it could have used a little less repetition/mirroring/genericism.
I hope someday more level designers will say to themselves "What does this room get used for and what will it look like after it has been used for a while" and work towards that. The only thing that sould end up cookie cutter are large warehouse compleses (contents better varry enough to make some mental map) and houses from Poltergeist.
Halflife 1 while not perfect it did seem to have an eye towards that concept in a lot of areas.
Voice acting?
Have you heard any of the recent dubbed games. it sounds like they asked the cleaning staff to come in an hour early. Most games developed and acted in their native tongue (Prince of Persia for instance) tend to be much better acted then what we see in the overdubs (AR Tonelico only has english dub cutscenes, the pain!). This excludes the "it will be cool to talk in english" titles like Biohazard/Resident Evil "I hope this isnt chrises blood". I do note they have gotten better with that.
I think if anyone could make those subjects into games that are fun to play it would be him, he helped with Chibi-Robo.
Chibi-robo made cleaning, dealing with vermin, cooking dinner, domestic trouble, irresponsible spending, traumatized children and shattered dreams fun.
There is a way to play the Myth 1 missions using the Myth 2 engine.
Ever play Metal Gear Solid or Psychonauts?
The tax refund (the one I am thinking of anyway) is Federal, not state.
As for why it's there, I guess it's there for the same reason buying an SUV (over 6K Lbs.) can get you a $25K tax credit.
I live up in Ohio. We sometimes get days where when I start up the car it tells me it's -15 out.
So far I have only seen the hybrid system "too cold" indicator (turtle) once since 2002 when I purchased the car (gen 1 model).
In our cold winters I am not noticing the huge mileage drop you see during yours. But my trips are all over 10-20 miles except for the occasional (once or twice a week) 5 mile trip.
The car seems to be warmed up to operating temp (the blue thermometer light turns off) before I make it 3 miles up the road in the above winter conditions.