Has microsoft been accused of not thinking of children? I think they understand that if the children only know how to use a microsoft operating system then when they grow up they'll continue to buy computers with microsoft.
They also design their gui with children in mind, or maybe children design their gui, one or the other
I think that method would work. The results could also be counted by the computer and stored online possible for everyone to count? (anonymously without a receipt as I state earlier)
I'll build up my thought more so you can knock it down better;) I just wanted to see what people would say, I by no means have the answer, and I know that having a reciept now would be a bad thing.
It scares me that the only voice we have in this 'of the people for the people by the people' government is giving our voice away to someone else (of the politician for the politician by the politician), and if that one voice is further trumped....
I only wanted to spark the debate, if there isnt an open free method that can work then we'll continue to pay our government to pay Diebold or other companies to defraud ourselves.
In the same manner that there's no way to know that the box they've pulled out of that truck is the same box with my ballot in it. I can't grasp how managing one physical box is harder then managing thousands of physical paper ballots with their hanging chads and missed punches:p
Explain to me how one set of paper trumps millions of digital copies?
Everyone could have their own set to count if they wanted to download it.
I just think that our entire system (from voting to our actual government) needs to evolve some into the electronic age, and if we don't find something open to use companies like diebold are going to step in place. I for one would rather sell my vote personally then have Diebold sell it for me and keep the profit.
But you'd be able to see how EVERYONE voted, not just you. You'd be able to count everyones vote, and be able to confirm that your vote was taken correctly. You wouldnt be able to see who the rest of the votes belonged to.
I don't understand why an open voting system wouldn't work. (And yes I know the major hurdle would be beating the peoples in power to transition to one)
Source code is 100% open to find exploits and bugs, when you vote you're given a ticket with a number, anyone can go online and see how everyone voted but only you are able to tell which vote was yours by the corresponding ticket number. That'd allow for everyone to do their own count if they wanted.
I've just don't like technology getting a bad name because people abuse it. An electronic voting system would be more secure then a paper trail with PEOPLE manually counting each vote.
That's because their news channels are just the TV channels I think. Yea I listen to the comedy channels a lot and I don't like their commercials, but most music stations don't have any... except for themselves which I find retarded...
Many of my hippie friends want to move to South America to get away from USA's government. I think they're just avoiding the inevitable, sooner or later you're gonna have to deal with the people that are vying for one world government.
I think upper management directly correlates quicker turn out time to bigger profit. The less time it takes you to do the job the quicker you can proceed to the next. Especially the non-technical ones. The only analogy I can ever think of is the car. We can build a car in a week. But we'll spend the next 6 months trying to put doors, a windshield, a slurpee machine (yea if only managament had let us know ALL the specifications beforehand) etc. on while its rolling down the road.
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Has microsoft been accused of not thinking of children? I think they understand that if the children only know how to use a microsoft operating system then when they grow up they'll continue to buy computers with microsoft.
They also design their gui with children in mind, or maybe children design their gui, one or the other
You're right. I never seen that pitfall before 40 people pointed it out to me ;D
Yea I understand the vote selling now and agree that a verifiable ballot is bad, was just ignorant of that.
My mind's a very simple place
I think that method would work. The results could also be counted by the computer and stored online possible for everyone to count? (anonymously without a receipt as I state earlier)
I'll build up my thought more so you can knock it down better ;) I just wanted to see what people would say, I by no means have the answer, and I know that having a reciept now would be a bad thing.
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It scares me that the only voice we have in this 'of the people for the people by the people' government is giving our voice away to someone else (of the politician for the politician by the politician), and if that one voice is further trumped
Thanks for the pdf I'll read it.
That system has my vote!
I agree, never thought of that.
Mod me Down!!
Yea I see what you mean, but there has to be some way. THERE JUST HAS TO BE!!!!
SAVE US SPEHGETTI MONSTER!!
I only wanted to spark the debate, if there isnt an open free method that can work then we'll continue to pay our government to pay Diebold or other companies to defraud ourselves.
In the same manner that there's no way to know that the box they've pulled out of that truck is the same box with my ballot in it. I can't grasp how managing one physical box is harder then managing thousands of physical paper ballots with their hanging chads and missed punches :p
Yea maybe a receipt would be bad, I just think there should be a way to allow more people to accurately count the vote.
Explain to me how one set of paper trumps millions of digital copies?
Everyone could have their own set to count if they wanted to download it.
I just think that our entire system (from voting to our actual government) needs to evolve some into the electronic age, and if we don't find something open to use companies like diebold are going to step in place. I for one would rather sell my vote personally then have Diebold sell it for me and keep the profit.
In my mind that's the only hurdle
But you'd be able to see how EVERYONE voted, not just you. You'd be able to count everyones vote, and be able to confirm that your vote was taken correctly. You wouldnt be able to see who the rest of the votes belonged to.
This would allow ALL people to count each vote.
Yea that's the idea I had. You put it in better words.
:p
I for one would rather sell my vote then have it stolen from me. Any bidders?
I don't understand why an open voting system wouldn't work. (And yes I know the major hurdle would be beating the peoples in power to transition to one)
Source code is 100% open to find exploits and bugs, when you vote you're given a ticket with a number, anyone can go online and see how everyone voted but only you are able to tell which vote was yours by the corresponding ticket number. That'd allow for everyone to do their own count if they wanted.
I've just don't like technology getting a bad name because people abuse it. An electronic voting system would be more secure then a paper trail with PEOPLE manually counting each vote.
No?
That's because their news channels are just the TV channels I think. Yea I listen to the comedy channels a lot and I don't like their commercials, but most music stations don't have any ... except for themselves which I find retarded ...
can be found on most XM channels, but NO POLITICAL COMMERCIALS
Takes the cake for me
Congratulations on fixing Internet Explorer 3!
Many of my hippie friends want to move to South America to get away from USA's government. I think they're just avoiding the inevitable, sooner or later you're gonna have to deal with the people that are vying for one world government.
EVER!
And I believe it.
I think upper management directly correlates quicker turn out time to bigger profit. The less time it takes you to do the job the quicker you can proceed to the next. Especially the non-technical ones. The only analogy I can ever think of is the car. We can build a car in a week. But we'll spend the next 6 months trying to put doors, a windshield, a slurpee machine (yea if only managament had let us know ALL the specifications beforehand) etc. on while its rolling down the road.