Whoever leaked that document to somethingawful broke the law.
Out of interest, what law is that they're breaking? I understand that "trade secrets" have some measure of legal protection, but I don't think merely claiming something is "confidential" automatically makes it a trade secret. Failing that, seems to me the worst anyone disseminating this "confidential" information could be accused of is contract violation. Which is not "breaking the law", it's breaking a contract.
Unless you're saying the law they're breaking is copyright infringement, in which case a fair use claim could certainly be argued and your first sentence is invalidated.
Unless there's something else? I thought the only IP with any measure of protection was patents, trademarks, copyrights and trade secrets...
In every way? That's a little harsh. And also, imho, inaccurate.
Amongst others (many others) : I much prefer Oracle's method of implementing table partitioning. I've yet to find a way to "Create OR REPLACE view", you can't change a nullable column to NOT NULL without recreating the table. I've yet to find a way to move an index from one tablespace to another. I much prefer Oracle's REDO/UNDO to db2's log method. The data dictionary and dynamic views seem better in Oracle than DB2.
I'm sure much of this is because I'm used to doing things the Oracle way, and somebody coming from DB2 to Oracle would probably mutter the same things about "They do things that way? I can't believe it..." but, for me at least, "every possible way" is by no means the case.
What's the point of having mobile phones you can download and play movies on, and all that 3G promised land functionality, if you need to remortgage your home to pay for it all?:)
There is, of course, ample precedent for such a medicine as the following from the 1960s demonstrates:)
### We'll drink a drink a drink To Lily the Pink the Pink the Pink The saviour of the human race For she invented medicinal compound Most efficacious in every case. ###
Talk to me when they can go sideways, respond to commands like "Main Engineering" and - when you're the senior person in the building and you're trapped in the lift - you can control the entire building from one tiny control panel simply by saying something along the lines of "Reroute building control to this panel, authorisation code Picard-1234-02-Omega-09-Theta".
Yeah, they'll be a lot keener to rescue you from the trapped lift when you're in a really bad mood and controlling the air-conditioning:)
2-4 hours for a restore of a 900 gigabyte database? From my experience I'd say that sounds overly optimistic, but of course the time taken to restore is highly dependent upon your database architecture, infrastructure and backup plan.
Is that from tape? optical media? cartridge? Disk? Is that a hot or a cold backup? Is it rman, or some other backup tool, or just a copy of the underlying file systems?
I didn't say that "DB2 SQL" is a copy of Oracle SQL. As an Oracle DBA moving into the DB2 field, I know only too well that the two implementations differ significantly.
I said that maybe the OP meant "SQL Procedural Language" instead of "SQL Programming Language", and then pointed out (to those who didn't know) that DB2 SQL/PL is "like Oracle's PL/SQL"
Oracle PL/SQL : A procedural language extension to Oracle SQL. DB2 SQL/PL : A procedural language extension to DB2 SQL.
If you accidentally left a CD at a relative's house you're no longer in possession of it but I think legally you might still be entitled to listen to it on your ipod, even if you can't get it back for a couple of week's 'cos he/she's on holiday...
You might have a point if it was the US and not the UK.
I have no idea what you actually mean by this. Care to elaborate? Is it that you think only US authorities would convict somebody for forgetting their key(s)? Ironically, for somebody who says "You might have a point" I'm not entirely certain what your point is.
A judge can't just order you to hand over the keys and then jail you for contempt of court, anymore than he can decide he'd quite like a spin in your Porsche and order you to produce the keys, unless there's a legal basis for that order.
Under 2000's Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) it's already a crime to not hand over your encryption keys, when ordered by a duly authorised person, so no contempt of court need arise. It's already flat out illegal.
Failing to provide the key is a criminal offence, with a maximum penalty of two years in jail. The accused must prove that they do not have the key, claiming to have mislaid or forgotten it might not be accepted as a defence. Both the innocent and the guilty would be caught in that condition, the guilty because they would rather serve two years than ten or more. Additionally those under investigation may not tell anyone except their attorney they are being investigated, under threat of five years imprisonment. This last is the newly coined offense of "tipping off".
Hold on. Anyone remember the Regulation of Investigatory Powers 2000 Act? Isn't it an offence - punishable by a prison sentence - to not hand over encryption keys? If they need to crack it, they can just tell the suspect to hand over his key(s). If he/she doesn't, he goes down for more than 90 days anyway...
So. Nice of you to interject your rambling waffle, but you should really read what he said. He didn't say that evolution was true, he said that - based on scientific knowledge as we know it today - evolution is the scientific theory that most closely matches observable fact.
And it is.
Because the bible is not a scientific theory.
By the way, did you write the Architect's dialogue from the second Matrix film? It's just that the style - meaningless big words - seems eerily familiar. "...as all the other religions fail to completely describe humanity's problem, as I am explaining it now, or if they do explain it"... do you see the problem with that statement?
"You (and by you I mean the whole that assumes logic without a 100% self-attesting assumption) need to come up with some way to justify that you have any rightful position to be in the mindset of asking God questions. Without proving your right to ask questions (and might I add that you are not even able to prove your right without assuming logic as before)"
More nonsensical rambling. Nice. Why should anyone have to prove a "right" to "be in the mindset" to ask questions, incidentally? And how do you do it? Is there an exam? Is it in essay form or multiple choice?
"'It is the most widely accepted theory by a huge margin.'
I'd like to mention that being widely accepted does not make a theory true."
No, that's true. It also doesn't make it false. There's a reason it's so widely accepted, and it's not because evolution is a cool-sounding name. The good thing about a theory is not that it can be proven true, rather that it can predict and provide ways it can be proven false. A theory doesn't stand around saying "I'm true, I'm true" it stands around saying "Here's a way you can prove me false... now go do it". So far, nobody's managed to quite do that with evolution just yet. Drives some people in Kansas nuts, but there you go.
"The Bible explains the human dilemma, our need for as self-attesting universal standard in order to base anything on something of more value than opinion. It also provides the way out, a relationship with God. But as we are sinful, this is not possible without an atonement to bring us into right standing with God (perfection cannot live with imperfection). So God sent his son Jesus Christ to die for us so that we might live to enjoy God (and thus have not only a universal standard but a universal purpose); and he offers a relationship through his son to all who would ask him for it. So ask him, and get weight and find meaning and purpose to your life."
Very interesting, but ultimately pointless to the point the OP made. But then, I assume you know that.
The US has already taken the 'liberalized' approach to the Internet. The US handed it off to a not-for-profit company to manage it under some strict 'keep your damn hands off' guidelines.
Immoral act? I'd agree with you completely. Illegal? No, I don't think so. At no point did I say it wasn't wrong, merely that I doubted it was illegal.
Don't see how. If you want to buy my bike, but you're not willing to agree to my price, I've not broken any law. Even if you needed to jump on the bike to escape a mugger.
Now, if I'm holding a gun and tell you you're going to pay my price or I'm going to blow your kneecap off --- that's extortion.
extortion : obtaining money or property by threat to a victim's property or loved ones, intimidation, or false claim of a right.... um, sounds nothing like it to me.
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Whoever leaked that document to somethingawful broke the law.
Out of interest, what law is that they're breaking? I understand that "trade secrets" have some measure of legal protection, but I don't think merely claiming something is "confidential" automatically makes it a trade secret. Failing that, seems to me the worst anyone disseminating this "confidential" information could be accused of is contract violation. Which is not "breaking the law", it's breaking a contract.
Unless you're saying the law they're breaking is copyright infringement, in which case a fair use claim could certainly be argued and your first sentence is invalidated.
Unless there's something else? I thought the only IP with any measure of protection was patents, trademarks, copyrights and trade secrets...
Unless you listen to SCO, of course :)
Even if we accept this as news, it's three day old news isn't it?
Must be a slow weekend :)
So just who should, according to you, define the list of sites the lookup of which bypasses the hosts file?
How about ... the user?
Expose this 'feature' in the security centre or whatever Microsoft calls it, put it under user control.
In every way? That's a little harsh. And also, imho, inaccurate.
Amongst others (many others) : I much prefer Oracle's method of implementing table partitioning. I've yet to find a way to "Create OR REPLACE view", you can't change a nullable column to NOT NULL without recreating the table. I've yet to find a way to move an index from one tablespace to another. I much prefer Oracle's REDO/UNDO to db2's log method. The data dictionary and dynamic views seem better in Oracle than DB2.
I'm sure much of this is because I'm used to doing things the Oracle way, and somebody coming from DB2 to Oracle would probably mutter the same things about "They do things that way? I can't believe it..." but, for me at least, "every possible way" is by no means the case.
Damn right! Somebody mod this guy up.
:)
What's the point of having mobile phones you can download and play movies on, and all that 3G promised land functionality, if you need to remortgage your home to pay for it all?
There is, of course, ample precedent for such a medicine as the following from the 1960s demonstrates :)
### We'll drink a drink a drink
To Lily the Pink the Pink the Pink
The saviour of the human race
For she invented medicinal compound
Most efficacious in every case. ###
Talk to me when they can go sideways, respond to commands like "Main Engineering" and - when you're the senior person in the building and you're trapped in the lift - you can control the entire building from one tiny control panel simply by saying something along the lines of "Reroute building control to this panel, authorisation code Picard-1234-02-Omega-09-Theta".
:)
Yeah, they'll be a lot keener to rescue you from the trapped lift when you're in a really bad mood and controlling the air-conditioning
2-4 hours for a restore of a 900 gigabyte database? From my experience I'd say that sounds overly optimistic, but of course the time taken to restore is highly dependent upon your database architecture, infrastructure and backup plan.
Is that from tape? optical media? cartridge? Disk? Is that a hot or a cold backup? Is it rman, or some other backup tool, or just a copy of the underlying file systems?
I didn't say that "DB2 SQL" is a copy of Oracle SQL. As an Oracle DBA moving into the DB2 field, I know only too well that the two implementations differ significantly.
I said that maybe the OP meant "SQL Procedural Language" instead of "SQL Programming Language", and then pointed out (to those who didn't know) that DB2 SQL/PL is "like Oracle's PL/SQL"
Oracle PL/SQL : A procedural language extension to Oracle SQL.
DB2 SQL/PL : A procedural language extension to DB2 SQL.
See why I might have said one was like the other?
Maybe this is a typo for "SQL procedural language", which is DB2's version of Oracle's PL/SQL.
If you accidentally left a CD at a relative's house you're no longer in possession of it but I think legally you might still be entitled to listen to it on your ipod, even if you can't get it back for a couple of week's 'cos he/she's on holiday...
D'oh! Never mind, I'm a twit. Misidentified the parent article. Don't mind me, it's been a rough day :)
You might have a point if it was the US and not the UK.
I have no idea what you actually mean by this. Care to elaborate? Is it that you think only US authorities would convict somebody for forgetting their key(s)? Ironically, for somebody who says "You might have a point" I'm not entirely certain what your point is.
It depends on whether or not my boss gets to lock me in a cell ...
A judge can't just order you to hand over the keys and then jail you for contempt of court, anymore than he can decide he'd quite like a spin in your Porsche and order you to produce the keys, unless there's a legal basis for that order.
Under 2000's Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) it's already a crime to not hand over your encryption keys, when ordered by a duly authorised person, so no contempt of court need arise. It's already flat out illegal.
Nope, not necessarily.
From the wiki:
Failing to provide the key is a criminal offence, with a maximum penalty of two years in jail. The accused must prove that they do not have the key, claiming to have mislaid or forgotten it might not be accepted as a defence. Both the innocent and the guilty would be caught in that condition, the guilty because they would rather serve two years than ten or more. Additionally those under investigation may not tell anyone except their attorney they are being investigated, under threat of five years imprisonment. This last is the newly coined offense of "tipping off".
Hold on. Anyone remember the Regulation of Investigatory Powers 2000 Act? Isn't it an offence - punishable by a prison sentence - to not hand over encryption keys? If they need to crack it, they can just tell the suspect to hand over his key(s). If he/she doesn't, he goes down for more than 90 days anyway ...
So. Nice of you to interject your rambling waffle, but you should really read what he said. He didn't say that evolution was true, he said that - based on scientific knowledge as we know it today - evolution is the scientific theory that most closely matches observable fact.
And it is.
Because the bible is not a scientific theory.
By the way, did you write the Architect's dialogue from the second Matrix film? It's just that the style - meaningless big words - seems eerily familiar. "...as all the other religions fail to completely describe humanity's problem, as I am explaining it now, or if they do explain it" ... do you see the problem with that statement?
"You (and by you I mean the whole that assumes logic without a 100% self-attesting assumption) need to come up with some way to justify that you have any rightful position to be in the mindset of asking God questions. Without proving your right to ask questions (and might I add that you are not even able to prove your right without assuming logic as before)"
More nonsensical rambling. Nice. Why should anyone have to prove a "right" to "be in the mindset" to ask questions, incidentally? And how do you do it? Is there an exam? Is it in essay form or multiple choice?
"'It is the most widely accepted theory by a huge margin.'
I'd like to mention that being widely accepted does not make a theory true."
No, that's true. It also doesn't make it false. There's a reason it's so widely accepted, and it's not because evolution is a cool-sounding name. The good thing about a theory is not that it can be proven true, rather that it can predict and provide ways it can be proven false. A theory doesn't stand around saying "I'm true, I'm true" it stands around saying "Here's a way you can prove me false ... now go do it". So far, nobody's managed to quite do that with evolution just yet. Drives some people in Kansas nuts, but there you go.
"The Bible explains the human dilemma, our need for as self-attesting universal standard in order to base anything on something of more value than opinion. It also provides the way out, a relationship with God. But as we are sinful, this is not possible without an atonement to bring us into right standing with God (perfection cannot live with imperfection). So God sent his son Jesus Christ to die for us so that we might live to enjoy God (and thus have not only a universal standard but a universal purpose); and he offers a relationship through his son to all who would ask him for it. So ask him, and get weight and find meaning and purpose to your life."
Very interesting, but ultimately pointless to the point the OP made. But then, I assume you know that.
Probably not. Let's hope they don't try to SCO Postgresql.
... yeah, no leg to stand on an' all that ... didn't stop SCO.
Sorry, feeling in a really cynical mood tonight :)
I'm a DB2, Oracle and Unisys RDMS DBA.
:)
It's all open-plan desks over here, not even cubes.
I've recently had a very annoying Sarbanes-Oxley audit. AFAIK, no mention was made of the lack of walls or doors
The US has already taken the 'liberalized' approach to the Internet. The US handed it off to a not-for-profit company to manage it under some strict 'keep your damn hands off' guidelines.
So ... how's .xxx coming along, then? :)
Immoral act? I'd agree with you completely. Illegal? No, I don't think so. At no point did I say it wasn't wrong, merely that I doubted it was illegal.
Don't see how. If you want to buy my bike, but you're not willing to agree to my price, I've not broken any law. Even if you needed to jump on the bike to escape a mugger.
Now, if I'm holding a gun and tell you you're going to pay my price or I'm going to blow your kneecap off --- that's extortion.
extortion : obtaining money or property by threat to a victim's property or loved ones, intimidation, or false claim of a right. ... um, sounds nothing like it to me.
Are you saying that Roche refused to sell the drugs to Tiawan? If so, that is criminal.
How so? What laws are being violated? Immoral? Almost certainly. Unethical? Very possibly. Unlawful .... mmmm, I'd think probably not so much.